The Sum of all Hopes
Here are the Bulls chances Tuesday night:
No. 1: 1.70%
No. 2: 2.00%
No. 3: 2.40%
No. 9: 81.34%
No. 10: 12.18%
No. 11: 0.38%
No. 12: 0.0024%
Get a top two pick, draft Rose or Beasley (in, my opinion, that order), and all of Pax's inactivity and (public) idiocy doesn't matter. (Getting the 3rd would be a good night's work as well, but the next step would be a bit more muddled) The history of many GMs work out this way: the lottery can sure make them seem smart.
And beyond knowing the Bulls position, lottery results will officially make it draft season. Yes, even I become interested at that point.
Pax (and Steve Shanwald) could use some luck (7pm CST, ESPN). So think happy thoughts. Or not, whatever you think may work.
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I'm pleased as long as they don't drop
I hate that (slim) possibility. I can’t wait to find out who David Stern fixed the draft lottery for this year!!!
by hscs on May 20, 2008 8:07 AM CDT 0 recs
the Spurs, clearly
sure they don’t have a lottery chance, but Stern’s tricky that way.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 20, 2008 8:16 AM CDT
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Teams should be able to trade lottery balls
Just so I can someday see the headline “Darius Songaila traded for 10 Lottery Balls”. In all seriousness, that would make NBA trades incomparably awesome (e.g. Bobby Jackson and 2 lottery balls for Mike James), especially if the NBA could determine if a winning ball came from a particular trade.
by YaoPau on May 20, 2008 8:49 AM CDT 0 recs
That is a great idea.
I’m surprised they don’t do it already.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on
May 20, 2008 9:07 AM CDT
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1 or 2 or trade the pick
Kosta Koufos doesn’t do it for me and I still fear Pax trading up for Kevin Love, who appears to have moved up the board much like Augustine. If the Bulls can’t land Rose or Beasley, in that order, please package the pick for the need they’d have preferred to address through the draft. This goes for any picks 3 – whatever. The Bulls wil only waste any pick that is a project (i.e. Anthony Randolph or DeAndre Jordan) because they can’t develop players that aren’t somewhat already ready out of the box, and all the safe, winning program picks that Paxson love so much don’t do it for me this year.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:40 AM CDT 0 recs
I don't see a trade
It’s Paxson. I just don’t see it
by Option27 on May 20, 2008 10:38 AM CDT 0 recs
Isiah is still with the Knicks
He’s just no longer holding the keys to the car.
Pax can pray that Touchdown Jesus might have a little Trade Jesus in him.
by NBA Observer on
May 20, 2008 10:59 AM CDT
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What are the dates
for this year’s Orlando Pre-Draft Camp?
Also, has anybody seen a list of invitees and participants?
For all you (us) Joe Alexander fans, there’s a nice write-up that got posted on draftexpress today.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 11:09 AM CDT 0 recs
How do you piss off Joe Alexander?
I’m still looking for any sign that he wants success more than the other guy. He has all this talent, but when is he going to get the edge to put his opponents on his posters?
by NBA Observer on
May 20, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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I'd like to point out how lame that read.
mostly because it was trying to sound profound.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 20, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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How did you not mention that Aaron Gray and Cedric Simmons are "already"...
...working out? They happen to be in the same place as Alexander.
Those are some really great articles for draftniks. They sound too glowing at times, but in the evaluation part, I think you see that they’re pretty fair.
by tyger1147 on
May 20, 2008 12:23 PM CDT
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bulls are really not in a bad spot....it could be worse, anyway
This year was awful, it goes without saying now, and the bulls seem to be on shaky ground with the coaching situation, but its not all bad, there are still positives that could turn things around just as quickly as they did last year. Whatever pick they end up with, its fine, imo, because this is a pretty deep draft, potentially deeper than last years draft, so to have another lottery pick in this one is not too shabby. maybe this shitty 07-08 season happened for some strange cosmic reason. who knows. The bulls can trade whatever pick they have with gooden and deng (just thinking out loud), to move up, to land a stud, or they can keep the pick, and have that guy turn into the star the bulls have been waiting for. Remember, if pax lands the right coach for the job (there are some great candidates out there still, and the more i watch the lakers dismantle quality teams in the playoffs, the more brian shaw is making sense), and the players respond well to him, and develops some of our youngins like a fully competent coach should, the bulls are not far off from championship caliber. Remember the celtics probably wont be nearly as good as they were this year, and it is only a matter of time before the pistons go through a little rough patch, and what are the chances the magic have another kick ass year. Hedo came out of nowhere, and lewis never got hurt, which is something you can always count from him. There are always teams that come out of no where, so you have to count them in, whoever it may be, but the point is, the bulls are not in a terrible, dire, reconstruction thing that will last 5 years like some teams are. the right moves had to be made, though, and that is up to pax.
This is it for pax. if he continues to make poor hirings, player decisions, etc, then he is obviously gotta go. Then jerry has to steal rc buford once tim duncan retires, then rc can bring parker with him, and it will be the start of a new era. haha But seriously, pax has got to step it up this summer and make a move, i appreciate the fact that he is not one to move hastily, but man, he is a little gun shy, and there are no signs of that changing. hopefully, we will all get lucky and he will make a a great coaching hire, and that good karma will continue to flow for the next few years. we will see, i guess the baby bulls 2.0 era begins tonight. think positive!!!!
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
by CONOR6 on May 20, 2008 12:42 PM CDT 0 recs
i remember when
the lottery show was a silly little halftime show during bulls-knicks playoff games that the bulls would win. Dam these bulls suck. with the #9 pick look for pax to take the best white guy on his (white) board.
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
by 234L on May 20, 2008 12:45 PM CDT 0 recs
I liked those affairs
Bob Costas wasn’t a massive dbag yet. I still remember how the Magic the freaking #1 pick 2 years in a row in 1992 and 1993 (both during Knicks-Bulls games), and Charlotte also got the 1st overall 1 year, then the 2nd overall the next. How that doesn’t scream conspiracy to immediately prop up two of the league’s youngest teams is insane.
Also, look at those lottery tapes. Is Bernie Bickerstaff contractually obligated to be coach/VP Player Personnel/GM for every team in the league before he dies?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on
May 20, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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wait a minute
Kirk Hinrich’s white!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 20, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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Wonder Bread
While I do have an allergic reaction to Kevin Love or Kosta Koufos, I could live with Budinger in the #9 range. I will even offer up a rare, cross-racial comparison of another AZ Wildcat, Sean Elliot, when thinking about a “ceiling” for him.
by Jobu on
May 20, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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I could settle for Budinger being a poorer-shooting, better-driving...
...same-scoring version of Ben Gordon. Basically because he’s tall—he should be able to pull off an extra block or rebound here or there.
by tyger1147 on
May 20, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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I was waiting for you to get in on the Budinger talk...
I read somewhere…I think yesterday (how’s that for specificity?)...that Budinger is reputed to have a 44” vertical. I hope he does at least the testing and measuring part of the Orlando camp.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on
May 20, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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The problem with his vert
It’s from his time as an elite volleyball player. He’s a kill man. His vert is awesome, but most of it isn’t derived while holding and controlling a basketball. I think he won the McD’s all american dunk contest as a HS senior.
I don’t know about his ball handling though. He likes to handle it, but mainly for pull up jumpers.
by NBA Observer on
May 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT
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Thanks for reminding me to stay away from here...
...for actual “scouting reports” on the players. I’ll stick with the so-called experts.
by tyger1147 on
May 20, 2008 4:49 PM CDT
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What do you see exactly in Budinger?
I’ve watched him a few times, and he seems like a pretty average shooter and mediocre defender. His teams always underachieve, and if you’re looking for blocks (.2 per game), you’re looking at the wrong guy. Maybe I’ve just seen him on his bad days, but he screams Rasual Butler 2.0.
by YaoPau on
May 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT
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I am already depressed about tonight and I am pessimistic
and I shouldn’t be, but I keep getting the feeling that it doesn’t matter what pick the Bulls get because Pax will screw it up. If they take a risk on development (i.e. projects) or character (i.e. Beasley), they will say they know about these things and are willing to work thorugh them but the moment something goes awry, they’re looking to either dump the player or bury him on the bench. Unless the pick is a winning college star, he won’t get the benefit of the doubt from this organization and the burden of proof will be on that player rather than the burden of developing that player being put on the Bulls. I had hope with D’Antoni because I thought his philosophy could override what seems to be Paxson’s, but now it looks like it will be another Paxson-type being picked, someone he’s “comfortable” working with. The guy wants a buddy to talk b-ball with as much as he wants a quality coach, and that means a shared philosophy, a short leash for players like Tyrus and Tyson, and more time for slightly above average good guys.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT 0 recs
True
Hopefully his ability to elevate with two feet planted (VBall players do this, right??) will lead to an alley-oop or two and all the other nice things that leaping ability can lead to like contested shots, weak side blocks, and, of course, rebounding. Not to mention, aside from the Greek God of Dunking, Tyrusius, this roster’s not that well stocked with people who can finish above the rim.
As far as ball handling, could he possibly be worse off than our current SF?
Along those lines, I’m very interested to see how Luol handles this summer. Was this past season a harbinger of doom or an anomaly?
by Jobu on May 20, 2008 3:58 PM CDT 0 recs
the sad thing
is that even if we win the lottery tongiht all of the conspiracy theorists will be out and probably convince Stern to redo the lottery!! Imagine a big market such as Chicago winnign the lottery with just over %1.
Now thats a pessimmestic view!!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 4:41 PM CDT 0 recs
Please we aren't getting any rigged balls
There’s a certain devil franchise known as the NY Knickerbockers that would easily get that spot.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on
May 20, 2008 6:51 PM CDT
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i like
these odds!!
Bulls 1.7 Ben Gordon making 27 straight free throws
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 4:54 PM CDT 0 recs
also
this doesn’t seem like a %1 chance of happening considering he is a %90 FT, but oh well. C’mon Ben!!!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on
May 20, 2008 4:59 PM CDT
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they're using his career average
only 85.8%
.858^27 = 0.016
by smegmatic on
May 20, 2008 7:47 PM CDT
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I'll be happy if New York and Miami don't get in the top 2
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 7:14 PM CDT 0 recs
YES!
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on May 20, 2008 7:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Oh idk if you may remember me or no
but my name on the old version of SBN on blogabull was FLAbull
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on
May 20, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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Oh wow!
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 7:20 PM CDT 0 recs
holy shit
asdfjklj;sadfjkl;asdfklj;sadfl;jkjklf;sdaljk!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Illini15 on May 20, 2008 7:20 PM CDT 0 recs
TOP 3 MOTHAFUCKAASSSS!!!!!
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
by Goostafer on May 20, 2008 7:21 PM CDT 0 recs
heh
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on
May 20, 2008 7:22 PM CDT
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Bulls coaching job just went up up up
poor D’Antoni
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
And he looked pissed
when they said the Bulls moved up to at least top 3, and panned over to D’Antoni and he looked worried, then when the Knicks got #6 he was PISSED!
So Awesome!
We have all the talent (a bunch of #2 and #3 guys, now let’s get a #1 guy!)
THis is amazing for the Bulls!
by majoyenrac on
May 20, 2008 7:34 PM CDT
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His face was awesome.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on
May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT
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oh, fuck
I missed it!
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on
May 20, 2008 7:27 PM CDT
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top 3 bitches!!!!
Come on #1….
Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on May 20, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
Insanity!
This is the stuff that changes a franchise. Pax will have no excuses if this doesn’t pan out.
"It is not the same to talk of bulls as to be in the bullring." ~Spanish Proverb"
by VivaLosToros on May 20, 2008 7:22 PM CDT 0 recs
thank you ozzie!
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT 0 recs
holy shit!!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 7:23 PM CDT 0 recs
FIRST PICK
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM CDT 0 recs
#1
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM CDT 0 recs
home town kid
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on May 20, 2008 7:24 PM CDT 0 recs
Go away.
Posting and Toasting: Unabashed Knicks fanaticism with the occasional poop joke.
by Seth on May 20, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
wow
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
by 234L on May 20, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
I'm actually shaking.
I think I’m a little too invested in this.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
by wjb1492 on May 20, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
i am too...
Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on
May 20, 2008 7:28 PM CDT
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I think I peed a little when I saw the envelope
I need counseling, too invested.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
by cubbybear on
May 20, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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looks like you need...
“oops I crapped my pants”...they’re great, trust me.
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on
May 20, 2008 7:58 PM CDT
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thanks stern!!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on May 20, 2008 7:25 PM CDT 0 recs
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!
I’ve got chills and tears and gooseybumps!
Derrick Rose BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
by marionette on May 20, 2008 7:26 PM CDT 0 recs
I was looking to post earlier
but didn’t want to bring up…............Seemed really long odds, but nothing like a Bartmann interference error!
How’d ‘ya like that D”Antoni!!!
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
by marionette on
May 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT
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THANK GOD!
1. Please select Derrick Rose
2. D’Antoni’s face was priceless
3. Avery’s interest in the Bulls job has suddenly skyrocketed.
4. Bye, Kirk.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 7:27 PM CDT 0 recs
c'mon KT...
the best part?
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on
May 20, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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we did have a lot of people here
questioning their season ticket renewals
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
by alec on
May 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT
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OMG!!!!! BULLS WIN THE LOTTERY!!!
D’Antoi’s face WAS priceless!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
by Goostafer on May 20, 2008 7:28 PM CDT 0 recs


