The Sum of all Hopes
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:02 AM CDT
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PrintHere are the Bulls chances Tuesday night:
No. 1: 1.70%
No. 2: 2.00%
No. 3: 2.40%
No. 9: 81.34%
No. 10: 12.18%
No. 11: 0.38%
No. 12: 0.0024%
Get a top two pick, draft Rose or Beasley (in, my opinion, that order), and all of Pax's inactivity and (public) idiocy doesn't matter. (Getting the 3rd would be a good night's work as well, but the next step would be a bit more muddled) The history of many GMs work out this way: the lottery can sure make them seem smart.
And beyond knowing the Bulls position, lottery results will officially make it draft season. Yes, even I become interested at that point.
Pax (and Steve Shanwald) could use some luck (7pm CST, ESPN). So think happy thoughts. Or not, whatever you think may work.
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I'm pleased as long as they don't drop
I hate that (slim) possibility. I can’t wait to find out who David Stern fixed the draft lottery for this year!!!
the Spurs, clearly
sure they don’t have a lottery chance, but Stern’s tricky that way.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Teams should be able to trade lottery balls
Just so I can someday see the headline “Darius Songaila traded for 10 Lottery Balls”. In all seriousness, that would make NBA trades incomparably awesome (e.g. Bobby Jackson and 2 lottery balls for Mike James), especially if the NBA could determine if a winning ball came from a particular trade.
That is a great idea.
I’m surprised they don’t do it already.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
1 or 2 or trade the pick
Kosta Koufos doesn’t do it for me and I still fear Pax trading up for Kevin Love, who appears to have moved up the board much like Augustine. If the Bulls can’t land Rose or Beasley, in that order, please package the pick for the need they’d have preferred to address through the draft. This goes for any picks 3 – whatever. The Bulls wil only waste any pick that is a project (i.e. Anthony Randolph or DeAndre Jordan) because they can’t develop players that aren’t somewhat already ready out of the box, and all the safe, winning program picks that Paxson love so much don’t do it for me this year.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions
Isiah is still with the Knicks
He’s just no longer holding the keys to the car.
Pax can pray that Touchdown Jesus might have a little Trade Jesus in him.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
What are the dates
for this year’s Orlando Pre-Draft Camp?
Also, has anybody seen a list of invitees and participants?
For all you (us) Joe Alexander fans, there’s a nice write-up that got posted on draftexpress today.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
How do you piss off Joe Alexander?
I’m still looking for any sign that he wants success more than the other guy. He has all this talent, but when is he going to get the edge to put his opponents on his posters?
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to point out how lame that read.
mostly because it was trying to sound profound.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
How did you not mention that Aaron Gray and Cedric Simmons are "already"...
...working out? They happen to be in the same place as Alexander.
Those are some really great articles for draftniks. They sound too glowing at times, but in the evaluation part, I think you see that they’re pretty fair.
bulls are really not in a bad spot....it could be worse, anyway
This year was awful, it goes without saying now, and the bulls seem to be on shaky ground with the coaching situation, but its not all bad, there are still positives that could turn things around just as quickly as they did last year. Whatever pick they end up with, its fine, imo, because this is a pretty deep draft, potentially deeper than last years draft, so to have another lottery pick in this one is not too shabby. maybe this shitty 07-08 season happened for some strange cosmic reason. who knows. The bulls can trade whatever pick they have with gooden and deng (just thinking out loud), to move up, to land a stud, or they can keep the pick, and have that guy turn into the star the bulls have been waiting for. Remember, if pax lands the right coach for the job (there are some great candidates out there still, and the more i watch the lakers dismantle quality teams in the playoffs, the more brian shaw is making sense), and the players respond well to him, and develops some of our youngins like a fully competent coach should, the bulls are not far off from championship caliber. Remember the celtics probably wont be nearly as good as they were this year, and it is only a matter of time before the pistons go through a little rough patch, and what are the chances the magic have another kick ass year. Hedo came out of nowhere, and lewis never got hurt, which is something you can always count from him. There are always teams that come out of no where, so you have to count them in, whoever it may be, but the point is, the bulls are not in a terrible, dire, reconstruction thing that will last 5 years like some teams are. the right moves had to be made, though, and that is up to pax.
This is it for pax. if he continues to make poor hirings, player decisions, etc, then he is obviously gotta go. Then jerry has to steal rc buford once tim duncan retires, then rc can bring parker with him, and it will be the start of a new era. haha But seriously, pax has got to step it up this summer and make a move, i appreciate the fact that he is not one to move hastily, but man, he is a little gun shy, and there are no signs of that changing. hopefully, we will all get lucky and he will make a a great coaching hire, and that good karma will continue to flow for the next few years. we will see, i guess the baby bulls 2.0 era begins tonight. think positive!!!!
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
i remember when
the lottery show was a silly little halftime show during bulls-knicks playoff games that the bulls would win. Dam these bulls suck. with the #9 pick look for pax to take the best white guy on his (white) board.
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
I liked those affairs
Bob Costas wasn’t a massive dbag yet. I still remember how the Magic the freaking #1 pick 2 years in a row in 1992 and 1993 (both during Knicks-Bulls games), and Charlotte also got the 1st overall 1 year, then the 2nd overall the next. How that doesn’t scream conspiracy to immediately prop up two of the league’s youngest teams is insane.
Also, look at those lottery tapes. Is Bernie Bickerstaff contractually obligated to be coach/VP Player Personnel/GM for every team in the league before he dies?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
wait a minute
Kirk Hinrich’s white!
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 20, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonder Bread
While I do have an allergic reaction to Kevin Love or Kosta Koufos, I could live with Budinger in the #9 range. I will even offer up a rare, cross-racial comparison of another AZ Wildcat, Sean Elliot, when thinking about a “ceiling” for him.
I could settle for Budinger being a poorer-shooting, better-driving...
...same-scoring version of Ben Gordon. Basically because he’s tall—he should be able to pull off an extra block or rebound here or there.
I was waiting for you to get in on the Budinger talk...
I read somewhere…I think yesterday (how’s that for specificity?)...that Budinger is reputed to have a 44” vertical. I hope he does at least the testing and measuring part of the Orlando camp.
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
The problem with his vert
It’s from his time as an elite volleyball player. He’s a kill man. His vert is awesome, but most of it isn’t derived while holding and controlling a basketball. I think he won the McD’s all american dunk contest as a HS senior.
I don’t know about his ball handling though. He likes to handle it, but mainly for pull up jumpers.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for reminding me to stay away from here...
...for actual “scouting reports” on the players. I’ll stick with the so-called experts.
What do you see exactly in Budinger?
I’ve watched him a few times, and he seems like a pretty average shooter and mediocre defender. His teams always underachieve, and if you’re looking for blocks (.2 per game), you’re looking at the wrong guy. Maybe I’ve just seen him on his bad days, but he screams Rasual Butler 2.0.
I am already depressed about tonight and I am pessimistic
and I shouldn’t be, but I keep getting the feeling that it doesn’t matter what pick the Bulls get because Pax will screw it up. If they take a risk on development (i.e. projects) or character (i.e. Beasley), they will say they know about these things and are willing to work thorugh them but the moment something goes awry, they’re looking to either dump the player or bury him on the bench. Unless the pick is a winning college star, he won’t get the benefit of the doubt from this organization and the burden of proof will be on that player rather than the burden of developing that player being put on the Bulls. I had hope with D’Antoni because I thought his philosophy could override what seems to be Paxson’s, but now it looks like it will be another Paxson-type being picked, someone he’s “comfortable” working with. The guy wants a buddy to talk b-ball with as much as he wants a quality coach, and that means a shared philosophy, a short leash for players like Tyrus and Tyson, and more time for slightly above average good guys.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
True
Hopefully his ability to elevate with two feet planted (VBall players do this, right??) will lead to an alley-oop or two and all the other nice things that leaping ability can lead to like contested shots, weak side blocks, and, of course, rebounding. Not to mention, aside from the Greek God of Dunking, Tyrusius, this roster’s not that well stocked with people who can finish above the rim.
As far as ball handling, could he possibly be worse off than our current SF?
Along those lines, I’m very interested to see how Luol handles this summer. Was this past season a harbinger of doom or an anomaly?
the sad thing
is that even if we win the lottery tongiht all of the conspiracy theorists will be out and probably convince Stern to redo the lottery!! Imagine a big market such as Chicago winnign the lottery with just over %1.
Now thats a pessimmestic view!!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Please we aren't getting any rigged balls
There’s a certain devil franchise known as the NY Knickerbockers that would easily get that spot.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on May 20, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
i like
these odds!!
Bulls 1.7 Ben Gordon making 27 straight free throws
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
also
this doesn’t seem like a %1 chance of happening considering he is a %90 FT, but oh well. C’mon Ben!!!
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
I'll be happy if New York and Miami don't get in the top 2
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
Oh idk if you may remember me or no
but my name on the old version of SBN on blogabull was FLAbull
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
Bulls coaching job just went up up up
poor D’Antoni
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
And he looked pissed
when they said the Bulls moved up to at least top 3, and panned over to D’Antoni and he looked worried, then when the Knicks got #6 he was PISSED!
So Awesome!
We have all the talent (a bunch of #2 and #3 guys, now let’s get a #1 guy!)
THis is amazing for the Bulls!
Insanity!
This is the stuff that changes a franchise. Pax will have no excuses if this doesn’t pan out.
"It is not the same to talk of bulls as to be in the bullring." ~Spanish Proverb"
wow
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
I'm actually shaking.
I think I’m a little too invested in this.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
I think I peed a little when I saw the envelope
I need counseling, too invested.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
looks like you need...
“oops I crapped my pants”...they’re great, trust me.
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!
I’ve got chills and tears and gooseybumps!
Derrick Rose BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
I was looking to post earlier
but didn’t want to bring up…............Seemed really long odds, but nothing like a Bartmann interference error!
How’d ‘ya like that D”Antoni!!!
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
THANK GOD!
1. Please select Derrick Rose
2. D’Antoni’s face was priceless
3. Avery’s interest in the Bulls job has suddenly skyrocketed.
4. Bye, Kirk.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
we did have a lot of people here
questioning their season ticket renewals
Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky
OMG!!!!! BULLS WIN THE LOTTERY!!!
D’Antoi’s face WAS priceless!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
After all the crap we took this season
With the Kobe Bryant trade fiasco, the Noah incident, Skiles quitting, Ben Wallace playing like crap, the Gasol no trade fiasco..WE DESERVE THIS!!!!
by RogersPark Kris on May 20, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GREAT GO BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew my shirt was lucky.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Amazing
pax will still draft Love tho. i really hope we draft rose and get rid of kirk
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
sweet and sour pork from china kitchen....
1st time i’ve ordered it….never switching….
Step 1 - Win lottery. Step 2 - Hire a coach. Step 3 - Win.
Just wanted to say congratulations
And if Pax drafts Lopez I told you so.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
all i have to say is
HOLY SHIT!
i was making dinner and just went to check online right now. HOLY SHIT!
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by bullsfaninbigapple on May 20, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions
i knew Ben Gordon
making 27 straight free throws wasnt that hard
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
LOL I saw that and thought
about Ben going to the gym and doing it!
By the time ten and nine were coming up, I was in a blanked out trance, focused on the top three, all other teams: NOT BULLS! Maybe some others here did too, and it worked?
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
OMG
I wish I could see D’Antoni right now.
We could finally get the player that consistently draws double teams in Beasley.
Chicagoland Lakers fan here
Congrats on the pick. Maybe I’ll tune into some Bulls games next year.
The only catch is, Paxson MUST take Rose. Beasely is an under-acheiver. Rose will become the face of the Franchise.
Beasely is a lazy stoner.
by Eon_blue on May 20, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
On Point
with a healthy deng. an older tyrus and noah the addition of gooden and NOW A REAL POINT GUARD. DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNN Is this real?
I can't wait to see all the ...
trade scenarios now.
I need to start one…
WOW
I think D’antoni is probably slapping his agent right now.
I never met anybody who said when they were a kid, "I wanna grow up and be a critic." - Richard Pryor
Please... ROSE... please ROOOOSEE
I want to fight Paxson if he drafts the underacheiving pot head Beasely.
From last year's winner to this year's
Congrats Bulls fans!
—Blazer fan
PS-Please deal us Kirk for cheap ;)
Thanks PA, KP, Nate, BRoy, LMA, GO, 'Tell, Trout, JJ's, Buffet, Blake (not Blakey), Thrilla Hundred-dolla Billa, McBob (just 'cuz you're cool), Sergio (just 'cuz you've got flash), and Raef (ummm...just 'cuz)....and Dean Demo, Maurice, Monty (You rock Monty!), Bill Bayno (good luck with your new job), Bobby, Jay, and everyone else I'm forgetting (scouts, other front office people) who made the Return of Rip City possible, including the media (Mike B., Casey, Dave, Ben). And tominhawaii. Can't forget him.
Thanks!
Congrats on finally getting Oden this upcoming season.
by RogersPark Kris on May 20, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
If Bulls trade him, that would suit me
Those are the two teams I cheer for anyway, so it keeps things nice and tidy.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
Kirk, Aaron Gray and Nocioni
for Rudy Fernandez, Joel Pryzbilla and the Blazers 2008 #1.
Deal?
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see
Rose, Gordon, Deng, TT, Noah…. a new coach…..playoffs?
by RogersPark Kris on May 20, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions
too bad it is summer
and too warm to freeze myself until the draft
Super Bowl XLI MVP Rex Grossman
Chicago Bulls Captain and Starting Point Guard Kirk Hinrich...
Same Person
This is the break we were all hoping for!!!
I almost died when the Bulls weren’t called at #9. I truly lost it when we got the #1 pick!!
I envision letting Gordon go so they can hope with Thabo and Kirk and Rose...
...and letting the team take its lumps. If Thabo doesn’t pan out as a full-timer, slide Kirk over.
I actually wouldn't want to let Gordon go...
...because his spot up shooting becomes more valuable and his handles become less of an issue. However, he’s the easiest to let go, and I don’t think Paxson really likes him.
Gordon?
No, they can do nothing, and he can sign with another team. Unrestricted Free Agent. The difficult trading thing only matters if a team wants to sign him for more than they can.
He's restricted this year.
Needs to sign his own option for this year to become an unrestricted next year.
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
oh, oops
but restricted still only means the Bulls can match
If the Bulls don’t want him, it’s the same as a UFA. No?
His player option
is for around $6.5M or so. Or he can wait for another team can offer more (surely some team will) and force the Bulls to match it. If the Bulls want to keep him, they will. Or if they want to get something for him, they will match to do a sign and trade.
But there’s a certain amount of bluffing involved (which Pax didn’t do well last year w/ Noc and Grizz), and Deng having similar FA status coupled with the CAP and luxury tax could undermine bluff attempts…..it gets complicated and could be troublesome. One thing they have done well, generally, is CAP management. So we shall see….
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
wow
my homepage has always been blogabull but i never new why i never made an account. but now….
YESS!!!!
(oh by the way, how do guys put that little qoute at the bottome of your comments)
click on your name waaaaay at the top
then click on edit profile towards the top right
and add what you want under signature. then go to the bottom and click save
Does everyone agree? It's going to be ROSE
Rose will soon become the face of the Bulls franchise. He is a rare talent. He can do it all.
As for Beasely, he is an under-acheiving spot up shooting PF. Stay away.
by Eon_blue on May 20, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Do you watch college basketball?
Beasley had very little help. Rose was a missing piece on a talented team. Beasley will rebound play D and most importantly score. I like Rose too, but if the Bulls draft him, where are they going to get a big?
have you watched the Hornets lately
An elite point guard can make even the weakest offensive players effective catches shots around the rim. Rose is the ideal player to draft for the benefit of production from Noah and Thomas.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I guess
It all depends on the coach. How important has that become? If you have a defensive minded coach, keep Kirk, draft Beasley. You can’t go wrong with either. If you want more up-temp, take Rose. It’s a great problem to have for the Bulls. And yes, I watch college and NBA faithfully…
It depends on Deng and Gordon.
If they don’t think they can re-sign Deng, I think they should take Beasley. It’d be a huge character change for the franchise, but Beasley and Thomas on the wing could be something.
I've been thinking about that for a long time.
Hopefully Pax doesn’t screw the pooch and draft Beasley, but with is character issues I doubt it. Atlanta needs a point badly (i think Bibby is done) and so does Indiana. I think the best move maybe package him with a contract we don’t want like Hughes or noce
Trade Hinrich to Miami
for the #2 and another player and just draft both of the top 2.
by NBA Observer on May 20, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Who would we want to get back in a trade
with Miami, Indie, Atlanta or Portland? Settle for cap relief?
Rudy Fernadez, J. O'Neal, Childress, Williams, Shawn Marion
picks and cap relief, just to name a couple things.
is Bibby a Free Agent?
cause otherwise the Hawks wont be in the PG market.
See ya, Kirk
Kirk was a decent player, nothign special. Average NBA point guard. Started strong, then his game plateued.
THE GODS OF BASKETBALL HAVE DELIVERED US FROM
THE HELL OF PERPETUAL MEDIOCRITY!!!
WELCOME HOME, MR. ROSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
P.S. THANK GOD PAX DIDN'T GET HIS WISH.
THANK GOD WE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Pax was a genius for sending his accountant to the lottery!
by RogersPark Kris on May 20, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously
this was a good year for the bulls after all
for the first and only time
i will say thank you jim boylan!!
what a man
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
GOD BLESS MY DVR
I still had a live recording and reversed to the lottery and started recording. I’m about to watch this again!!!!!!!!!
Which guard are we going to trade?
This is like Christmas!
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Don't you think Gordon is the easiest to move?
They can’t keep high demands since other teams will know their logjam. Since he’s a UFA…
I know Sbulls and others don’t like Kirk at the two, but I think he can handle it. I like Thabo, Kirk and Rose for the next four years or what-not.
i would rather keep kirk and
trade BG. Maybe BG ahhhh skip it im to excited to think of the countless trade opportunities this gives us.
because then you get nothign in return
by BoxingHideout on May 20, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Why wouldn't the team we are trading with sign him?
They could get Gordon and keep their player/pick
Sign and Trade makes more sense than anything...
Even if it’s for a Trade Exemption…
Never let a guy go for nothing.
C'mon
as a Bulls fan, I thought it was known that people like me depend on flimsy hopes.
by ToroToroToro on May 20, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad Ford thinks we are going to take Beasley.
F that. F it.
(This is the post that we can all use to laugh at me in six years if Beasley is awesome. LOL.)
I want Rose.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
And of course Paxson will have no comment on the matter
Let the speculation begin.
by RogersPark Kris on May 20, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we all do.
They need to keep Deng.
Three years from now (2011-2012):
Rose: 23
Deng: 26
Thomas: 25
Noah: 26
I’ll take that team. If Paxson can’t build an annual contender with that…
by tyger1147 on May 20, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Thabo will be 27.
But does the last player even matter?
Then again, sign-and-trade for Lebron/Bosh/Wade….(Larry Hughes will help)
Rose
Lebron
Deng
Thomas
Noah
Can someone say “Dynasty”?
Wow, I’m getting ahead of myself. I love it. GO BULLS!
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
It5 all comes down to
Kirk or Rose vs Tyrus or Beasley.
I’m not sure what to think at this moment, but the options are good.
Now, is this worse than having the #2? Now Pax has a choice.
F it, I’m enjoying this too much. Let the Big Wigs deal with it.
Blogabull... So Fresh and so Clean Clean!
I think moving Kirk to the 2
And getting rid of the microwave would be wise. At least Kirk plays good defense.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
I bet
this is the most comments BaB has has gotten at one specific time ever. Which is accurate cuz we bulls fans sure did deserve it.
i say we trade that
for joe-kim’s brother, mike-kim noah.
Tyrus Thomas
-"Million dollar talent, ten cent head."
We aren't picking a player to fit in with our guys
we are picking a player to be the future of the franchise. In that situation, and with the way the NBA game is going, how can you not pick Rose?!? Who cares if he fits with Hinrich or if Beasley is a better combination – both guys are only 19 years old. You are building around them, not making them the final piece of the puzzle. You draft the guy you think you can build around, the guy who can lead your team for the next 8-10 years. This isn’t pro football. Chad Ford is an idiot.
EXACTLY.
Take the blue chip guy, and solve the problem of the mediocre back court NOW.
If you like the defense, you keep Kirk. If you like the shooting, you keep BG. It’s not that simple, of course. Depending on other teams’ interest and offers, and BG and Lu’s contract attitudes, but nice for Pax to be in the driver’s seat.
What a gift! Wonder if Sam Smith thinks they’re trading the pick ‘cause they already have enough young players!!!!
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
Cautiously elated
Naturally we’re all saying Rose, but the only thing the #1 ensures Paxson is that Kevin Love will be his for the taking. There is no need to overanalyze this pick, no need to do marginal analysis of Rose vs. Kirk compared to Beasley vs. Gooden/Ty. Just make the damn pick and take Rose.
by messwiththebull on May 20, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
After all the gaffs
A goose lays a golden egg. Still wish we made the playoffs, and got beaten by Boston?
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
The irony is
I am convinced if they’d played the youth, like Philly did, they would’ve been there.
Joakim Noah for player/coach!
I'll admit
I wanted them to make it. Then again, later I wanted them to tank like the Exxon Valdez.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
This feels like karmic justice
After Mr. Williams decided to get up-close-and-personal with a tree.
"I tell you, Steve Blass, you pitch me inside, they never, never find that ball."
-Roberto Clemente
Also to note Rose's agent is Arn Tellum
or AKA Reinsdorf’s BFF.
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