(UPDATE) Reinsdorf speaks, manages to make it sound even worse
UPDATE: Sam Smith with more from Reinsdorf and D'Antoni.
Kudos to KC for scoring this interview with the chairman:
"The second subject, I said if we need to get something done this weekend we shouldn't even bother talking because it will take longer than that," Reinsdorf said. "He said nothing had to be done over the weekend.
"I also said if this proceeds to where we want to make an offer, we don't deal with coach's agents. He said that's not a problem and that money wasn't the most important thing anyway. He said he wanted a job where he was going to be happiest. He said he didn't want to coach the Knicks."
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"The answer is this is a very important decision to make and we didn't want to make the wrong decision. I don't think we moved too slowly. As soon as the Suns gave permission to talk, John was on a plane to meet with him. We did not move slowly here."
Asked why, if D'Antoni was the target, the Bulls didn't make a pre-emptive strike offer before the Knicks, Reinsdorf deferred to the sequence of events.
Reinsdorf said he met with Paxson last Tuesday to review the general manager's two interviews in Phoenix with D'Antoni, as well as other candidates on the Bulls' list. Paxson had flown to Phoenix on May 4, the day Suns general manager Steve Kerr granted D'Antoni permission to interview.
Knowing he would be in Phoenix over last weekend, Reinsdorf said he called D'Antoni last Tuesday and set up the Friday meeting. Reinsdorf said as he left that meeting, he told D'Antoni he would speak to Paxson and talk to D'Antoni again on Saturday.
When Paxson called LeGarie on Saturday morning, the agent informed Paxson that D'Antoni had accepted the Knicks' job. As Paxson attempted to sway LeGarie to listen to the Bulls' offer, Reinsdorf left his Saturday morning message for D'Antoni.
"I never tell the general manager who he has to hire, but I do have veto power," Reinsdorf said. "After meeting with Mike, I told John I was inclined to negotiate a contract and John made it clear he wanted Mike."
Where to begin. First off, the 'we don't deal with coach's agents' edict seems strange. Especially since later there's a mention of Paxson dealing with D'Antoni's agent, in the form of begging him to have his client reconsider taking the Knicks job.
And I admit I don't know how these things usually go...but after two meetings with the GM, shouldn't the meeting with the owner be about contract terms? Why is the result of that Friday meeting Reinsdorf saying he has to again talk to Paxson, and "we'll get back to you"? Seems like they did move too slowly.
And of course: why keep trying to emphasize how much you wanted to hire him if you didn't get him? It makes things sound worse. Reinsdorf correctly shoots down the idea of how much D'Antoni wanted to be the next coach of the Bulls (as the national media has continuously said), with the evidence being this 'rudeness' in not listening to an offer. If he really wanted to be here he'd be here, right? He and Pax should stick with that story, and not the one where they emphasize the pursuit, as it only makes one question the effectiveness. Plus, saying how D'Antoni explicitly said he didn't want to coach the Knicks seems a bit unprofessional, but then again Reinsdorf earlier this season publicly said how one of Deng and Gordon told him they regretted not signing a contract extension...
All that said, there are some encouraging words as well:
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Reinsdorf disputed LeGarie's statement that the Bulls seemed hesitant to enter into another multiyear deal after swallowing close to two years and $5 million of Skiles' contract.
"I assumed we'd have to go four years," Reinsdorf said. "We gave Scott Skiles four years. That's kind of the going rate for coaches now. And money isn't an issue. Believe me, we can afford to pay coaches. Even if Skiles hadn't spread his money out (over four years), we can afford to pay top coaches.
"Phil Jackson wasn't a big name, and he turned out to be a great coach," he said.
It's true that this fiasco may turn out to be for the best. But a pleasant mistake is still a screw-up, and worse yet they can't wait to tell us more about it.
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did I just pay KC a compliment?
as I read over on the RealGM board, it would’ve been nicer if KC gotten a response from the D’Antoni camp. Even if it was ‘snooze ya lose!’
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 12, 2008 11:46 PM CDT 0 recs
There you go
Reinsdorf admitted that the Bulls hadn’t even decided to make D’Antoni an offer yet (“He chose to go to New York knowing there was a ‘good chance’ we would make him an offer.”) He also admitted that they weren’t going to make him an offer over the weekend. Who can blame D’Antoni for taking the Knicks job, since he had no idea when the Bulls would make him an offer? Who’s to say the Bulls wouldn’t have dragged this thing out for another week or two? D’Antoni was probably wondering if the Bulls were even that interested in hiring him, since they had numerous meetings with him without any sign of an offer.
by Big D on May 12, 2008 11:46 PM CDT 0 recs
I can't really see...
...how saying they wanted him but got screwed by a greedy bastard is a good thing. A) It makes it look like they still have no idea how to judge character. B) If he was “the guy” they wanted, how’s the next coaches they interview going to feel.
Maybe this is just crap for their players they’ve left to rot: “Hey, we know you wanted the guy! We did, too! We’re trying to do the right thing.” But even then: A) trying don’t cut it in professional sports and B) shows further incompetence.
by tyger1147 on May 12, 2008 11:49 PM CDT 0 recs
I can't wait to see bullshooter's and hscs's spin of this.
“But they really didn’t think he was the guy!!!” “D’Antoni was greedy and didn’t even give the Bulls a darned chance!”
by tyger1147 on
May 12, 2008 11:56 PM CDT
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I think
He is trying to spin it as, hey were not the bad guys here, it d’antoni who played foul. If we had known he was gonna jump the gun or that he wanted a response asap then we wouldve done something. But he led us onto believe that he didnt care (the quotes about how after meeting with d’antoni, d’antoni said he didnt care about the money and he understood that it was gonna take a little longer)
I think d’antoni’s agent did the smart thing, which is telll d’antoni “hey, the knicks RIGHT NOW are offering to make you the third most paid coach in the nba (and that means im gonna get alot of money) so you should accept that. I know those bulls people, they arent gonna give you much more then what kerr gave you, and paxson is alot like kerr too, trust me new york, you can do what you want there, its a crappy team so anything you do will be great, but chicago will put alot pressure on you. Take the easy and high paying job.” Okay so i dont know if that is what was said, but i can see the agent doing a push like that. In this world, enough money can overpower any man on any subject, its the sad truth.
Also, D’antoni was a far more intresting prospect then any of the coaches paxson has interviewed as of yet…so how many coaches is that??? Once the playoffs are over there should be a few more names that will come out (thib being the big one) and paxson will have more interviews. Personally a guy like Thibadeau should be the next coach just because right now he seems to be carrying an aura with him, it seems every team that has a need for a coach has at least considered his name as an adequate prospect, i just hope he can live up to the hype. I hope the players arent moping about the coaching selection but instead thinking “screw this organization, they wont fix anything, im gonna have to improve alot and get us back” because despite how weak they proved to be this last season, none of them are those who take losing lightly….
....thats all i got…someone also show glimpses of hope so that the light can carry on
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on
May 13, 2008 12:59 AM CDT
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new ownership now
I hope the players arent moping about the coaching selection but instead thinking "screw this organization, they wont fix anything, im gonna have to improve alot and get us back" because despite how weak they proved to be this last season, none of them are those who take losing lightly….
this organization has been a laughing-stock for players around the league since 1998. this debacle will only infuse the current players with more “screw this organization” sentiment. don’t get used to Noah because he will be jetting as soon as he gets the chance, probably same with Deng, Gordon, and Thomas.
somebody start a thread when we get a new owner.
by Orlando Woolridge on
May 13, 2008 2:00 AM CDT
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Another thing that seemed to come into play
is that New York is our most international city. D’Antoni seemed to indicate that there was some appeal to him being in city with a high level of European flava.
He may have forgotten that European fans hate shitty basketball teams.
John Paxson has been like family to me. I can no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother, who also was unable to pull of any deals for superstar free agents or hire a quality new coach.
by preverbal on
May 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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try not to bait
it’s unbecoming.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 8:07 AM CDT
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Terrible explanation by dawdling Jerry
This still doesn’t explain how after having a head start on the negotiations, after hearing of Walsh’s interest, after hearing of Walsh’s proposed offer, after John and Jerry both met D’Antoni, no offer still was extended, and certainly no offer was extended before Walsh, who came in late to the game, made his offer.
I find it to be a very convenient setup that the Bulls claim that they were right about to make D’Antoni an offer the same morning he accepted the Knicks’ job. That’s easier to put out there than to say they wanted to mull it over the weekend.
by messwiththebull on May 13, 2008 6:35 AM CDT 0 recs
juicy stuff from Sam Smith
From both Reinsdorf and D’Antoni.
D’Antoni just says he based his decision on…’gut’ feeling. Whatever. The truly weird stuff comes from Reinsdorf.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 13, 2008 8:17 AM CDT 0 recs
after all this
even though pax and reinsdorf still look like morons, d’antoni looks like one too.
not even listening to the bulls’ offer and claiming it was to make it not be about the money, is pretty dumb. i don’t like what i’m hearing about him post-the knicks signing.
by Jaina on
May 13, 2008 8:24 AM CDT
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man...
that made me feel like crap. Especially the part where Reinsdorf says that D’Antoni likes Hinrich and was going to give him 35 minutes a game and tell him he’s not being pulled for mistakes. By the transitive property I can assume that he would’ve done the same with Tyrus and for missing out on that I will be pissed.
by CubFan81 on
May 13, 2008 8:27 AM CDT
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yeah
but he talked about how “drew gooden could be a star” thus, i’d assume…. less tyrus.
by Jaina on
May 13, 2008 8:29 AM CDT
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I'll assume that too
since I’m pretty masochistic when it comes to my fair lad Tyrus.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
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Doug Collins as an assistant? That could have been interesting.
He said he’d accept Doug Collins as an assistant coach,” said Reinsdorf. “He liked [Drew] Gooden. He said he’d be his low-post guy and could be a star. As I was leaving, I said the only thing that could go wrong is if we didn’t play defense. Maybe I scared him.”
Still, starting to think that the organization might have dodged a bullet when D’Antoni listened to his gut. He’s coming across as very flaky right now.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on
May 13, 2008 8:29 AM CDT
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That's a real 'head-scratcher'
Collins has recently said he’s not coming back to coach (when he was mentioned as a candidate for the Suns), why would he an assistant for the Bulls?
Maybe he meant someone like Collins. Although Collins was pretty much a disaster in Washington.
Or maybe Reinsdorf was just floating out that name because he’s a ‘chicago guy’ and further wanted to get everyone against D’Antoni.
If Reinsdorf literally said to D’Antoni, “how about hiring Doug Collins as your defensive coach?”, my ‘gut’ would tell me go to NY too.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 9:30 AM CDT
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How many yards away does Doug Collins live?
Collins lives in the greater Phoenix area as well. Maybe even Scottsdale too.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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maybe he was peeking in the windows
which is why his name came up.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 9:38 AM CDT
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He did live in Scottsdale
I’ll guess Jerry and Doug crossed Golf Cart paths with one on the way to D’Antonis and the other to the first tee. 2:30PM meeting indoors is a lot better the Scottsdale sun for 18 holes.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 9:42 AM CDT
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Reinsdorf:
“He told me that he didn’t have a problem coaching defense, and that he actually loved it. He told me that John and I would always have his ear, and that we could suggest anything at anytime. ...He told me that Doug Collins, Tex Winters and Dick Motta had already committed to joining the staff, and that they were trying to recruit Jerry Sloan.
And I said, you had me at ‘no problem coaching defense’. We had a great chat, I just don’t know where it all went wrong…”
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on
May 13, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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This is a great article
My gut tells me we dodged a bullet. My gut also told me Eddie Curry was going to be a big star and center-piece to the Bulls revival. I was furious at Paxson for trading him. I’ve also been on-target a few times. I hated the Wallace signing and depressed about losing Chandler. I do think Paxson is a very good person and at times a bit niave. In this case I’m hoping his attraction to D’Antoni is niavete and D’Antoni’s gut just passed gas. Hopefully we dodged a big mistake here. Otherwise I’ll be eating my heart out if the Knicks somehow succeed with him.
by chgobr on
May 13, 2008 8:53 AM CDT
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digging for clues
Reinsdorf:
[D’Antoni] said he wasn’t afraid of Ben Gordon [playing out his contract].
Nice reminder of the hell July might become, making this coaching search seem like small potatoes.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
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Personal Favorite
He likes [Kirk] Hinrich and said he’d tell him he’s playing 35 minutes and not coming out if he makes mistakes. He said he doesn’t believe in pulling a guy when he makes a mistake. He did feel you can defend and play uptempo.
I think im gonna go cry now….
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on
May 13, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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we should keep in mind
that any interview with Reinsdorf was still technically ‘negotiation’, so D’Antoni likely embellished how much he loves everyone on the Bulls.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 12:14 PM CDT
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Part of my love is for the hinrich part
But the other half has to go to the last line, play defense and play uptempo, its what i believe the bulls can definetly do (and nba 2k8 agrees with me, although that probably doesnt mean anything)...to me the comment means “Yes, I can make all your dreams of what the bulls can do reality…oh wait…i work for New York now…”
Even you must admit matt, just the words of what d’antoni said has to intrigue you and make your mind wonder, what would it have been like.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on
May 13, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
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That's because, unlike the Bulls management
he’s apparently a classy guy.
I mean, what’s the man supposed to say? “I was frightened Jerry Reinsdorf would go OJ on my while I was at his pad Friday night”? He said the only thing he could say without making it sound like the Bulls had been complete tools.
On the other hand, the Bulls are still publicly crying like a bunch of fucking babies. At least now that Reinsdorf is on record we have an idea where Pax learned it from.
by Sports2 on
May 13, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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Job Scarcity
What Paxsdorf does not understand is that there are only 30 head coaching jobs in the NBA, thus there are very few opportunities so when a job is offered you must make the decision with incomplete info and D’Antoni did just that. Sure it benefits the Bulls to wait and exercise their due diligence, it does not benefit D’Antoni who takes the bird in the hand as the sane thing to do in this case.
The Knicks are not that much worse than us, we are both teams that failed to make the playoffs in a weak conference and so the choice becomes easy of where to coach. We MAY have the pieces to be a better team, but the team is not a Championship team regardless of who coaches it so take the money and let us get Skiles 2.0 in Avery Johnson and enjoy our first round playoff run.
Peace
by bullschwaa on May 13, 2008 8:51 AM CDT 0 recs
Another frame
D’Antoni was indifferent to the Bulls and Knicks. Bulls have the current roster and the big market. Knicks have the big market, big money, and brand new basketball operations people to retool their roster. Either club was going to be better for D’Antoni than a return to the valley.
Using the clubs against each other, D’Antoni, through his agent Wayne LeGarie, pushed the bidding process into the NY tabloids to elevate the value of his client. The longer D’Antoni remained in limbo with Kerr the more time would pass for active Suns to comment on bringing back D’Antoni. The Sunday deadline was set by D’Antoni. He wanted to move quickly.
The good news we learn from these stories today is that Paxson was on board with D’Antoni. He was excited about something new for the Bulls that is increasingly used, copied, and modified to suit the demand for scoring.
by NBA Observer on May 13, 2008 8:51 AM CDT 0 recs
you just love name-dropping agents...
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 9:26 AM CDT
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If agent didn't matter I wouldn't mention them
The top level post is just another spin on the events.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 9:29 AM CDT
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On the bright side
(why do I keep using references to Phoenix)
At least Brian Shaw’s name enters Smith’s report and Johnson’s report. I hope he gets an interview.
The new hiring time frame is looking more like mid June now.
by NBA Observer on May 13, 2008 9:00 AM CDT 0 recs
Do you really think this team is ready for the Triangle Offense?
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on
May 13, 2008 10:01 AM CDT
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As much as they're ready for whatever offense
the new coach employs.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 10:10 AM CDT
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I'm up for whatever
I remember the Bulls still used sets from the offense during the Tim Floyd reign, I’m guessing it didn’t go down so well. However, I think it could work. The players are fairly intelligent, and coming from strong college schools, most of them would be able to grasp a fairly complex offense. I’m still not sold on how effective it can be when there is no go-to guy in the post for us.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on
May 13, 2008 10:57 AM CDT
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The triangle doesn't require a low post go to guy
It’s mainly associated with the high post. Before it was called the Triangle it was called the Triple High Post Offense.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 11:14 AM CDT
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the bulls should embrace the triangle
the bulls were the team that first used it, and like phil said, when run properly, its a flawless system. hmmm, phil has won 9 rings with the triangle, working on his 10th, he may be on to something.
All of this “we wanted d’antoni” talk is just a message to the team that jerry and pax were trying to get him, but he didn’t even wait for an offer, so its basically out of there hands. which i agree with. what can you do if the guy doesn’t even wait to hear what you have to offer. fuck that guy, i hate to break to everyone, he went for the cash and the opportunity to blow up the knicks and recreate them in his image. That was his motivation, cash and total control. he basically gets to do what he wants with no expectations for the next two years. the more i think about this d’antoni thing, the more i am happy he is not coming to chicago. the guy seems like a slime-ball. he totally screwed phoenix. it would have been a seriously risky hirer for a lot of dough. and he can talk about how much he loves teaching defense, but that was clearly not the case in phoenix. the suns were totally lost on defense, hence them never have any real, big time sucess in the playoffs. hire thibidaue or shaw if you want a a man with a plan, and a guy who will be motivated by the challenge of getting our youngs guys to reach their potential.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
by CONOR6 on
May 13, 2008 12:28 PM CDT
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Why the love affair with team defense
The Bulls even when Skiles had them playing great defense 2 years ago were not going to win a championship, you have to be able to score points to win games, especially close ones and until the Bulls have a top 10 player who can win games at the end it does not matter.
Defense does not win championships, superstar players with really really good players win championships.
by bullschwaa on
May 13, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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No...
They eat Little Chocolate Donuts…
Step 1 - Hire a coach. Step 2 - ... Step 3 - Win.
by Lt.Dan on
May 13, 2008 3:22 PM CDT
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Classic, love the touch of smoking while eating the donuts
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on
May 13, 2008 3:41 PM CDT
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Cite Precedent...
“Before I swing for the bleacher seaties, I get the eaties for my wheaties.”
-Ron Cey
"Worker bees can leave.
Even drones can fly away.
The Queen is their slave."
by jpchi on
May 13, 2008 3:23 PM CDT
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do guys think
that he chose new york, because of the possibility that lebron might end up there. i keep hearing about him going to leave the cavs when his contract is up and new york seems to be number 1 on his list. that couldve have been a selling point i guess. though he would have to wait a few more seasons for LBJ.
Ralph Wiggum, a smarter man than Jim Boylan
by Yibs on May 13, 2008 9:04 AM CDT 0 recs
Do you beleieve Reinsdorf?
According to Sam Smith, Reisndorf said D’Antoni told him…
He said money wasn’t the most important thing and it might take three years to get the New York roster in shape.
Mitch Lawrence are already talking about the moves.
One of the first plays Mike D’Antoni is expected to draw up as the Knicks’ new coach is for Stephon Marbury to run up the Garden floor … and out the door back to Phoenix to rejoin the Suns.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 9:14 AM CDT
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I'm sure Kerr's just waiting
to bring Marbury back. Not.
by KT on
May 13, 2008 3:48 PM CDT
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Wah?
I am embarrassed to be a fan of an organization that would now twice (Pax first, and now Reinsdorf) publicly whine about not landing a decent, yet overrated head coach. So you didn’t land D’Antoni, who cares?! How about not letting your organization look like the victim? It’s not like he’s the second coming of Phil Jackson. Move on.
by RogersPark Kris on May 13, 2008 9:15 AM CDT 0 recs
$$$
That’s right on the money.
By the way, hope you don’t mind I appropriated your comment for my signature a while back. Thanks in advance.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on
May 13, 2008 9:18 AM CDT
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"Gentleman's Agreement"
The Bulls are quickly casting themselves as the Franchise No One Should Expect to Deal With Reasonably. Or at least the Franchise Most Whiny in the Press.
The D’Antoni, Gordon and Deng negotiations are only the latest. Remember the “handshake agreement” with Horace Grant? Remember the multiple near-trades of Scottie Pippen throughout his career?
For the sophisticated real estate attorney and billionaire owner of one of the most profitable sports franchises in America, Reinsdorf comes off as a bit artless in the aftermath of the D’Antoni situation.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on May 13, 2008 9:16 AM CDT 0 recs
meh
I think Reinsdorf just likes the negotiation. I don’t see a lot of evidence that he’s picking players or coaches to acquire. He pays people to do that. He’s just the final say in the form of the contract negotiation.
I’d like to see some evidence that Paxson actually draws up any of the contracts the Bulls offer to players, coaches, free agents, etc.
It sure seems like Paxson just tests the waters, finds a fish, gets a bite, and hands the rod to Reinsdorf to real em in or let him go.
by NBA Observer on
May 13, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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Sorry.
But actually, my point is not that Reinsdorf is a bad negotiator per se on a microlevel, or that Pax does or does not negotiate specific provisions.
My point is that in the aggregate, various negotiations have ended in pure acrimony. The result is that Reinsdorf seems to lack credibility. And then has this pattern of declaring himself, and the organization, victim—in other words, sometimes whining to the press about the fact that he did things the right way whereas the opposing party was being irrational. Not always, but I’m just saying it does sometimes come across that way.
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on
May 13, 2008 9:48 AM CDT
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agree
Reinsdorf thinks in slow motion, negotiations in the NBA occur in fast motion. Jerry is so old school that he thinks people are not allowed to shift gears, react on gut emotions and change there minds even when nothing is even written and signed in a contract. Jerry, this is the trait of a good NBA coach..“to make adjustments on the fly”
Rehire Boylan, because he’ll stick with a line-up even when it’s not working. True to his word.
Walk up Jerry!
Florida’s Donovan even signed a contract and afterwards changed his mind. Stop Crying you should have signed him that day with a clause, and made a few million from the NY if he changed his mind!
Reinsdorf the mammal that never changes his mind, in any walk of life!.
by exult463 on
May 13, 2008 12:09 PM CDT
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For the next coaching job
The bulls should send you (or anyone else who wants to criticize the events) since its obvious you guys know “how its done”. Do i sound a bit like bullshooter???
My point is that it really takes two to get things done, and in terms of coaches, well how often do great coaches win with your average players? D’antoni said it was a gut feeling, that he acted before the offer came, so what exactly could have the bulls organization have done to stop him. Someone has to lose a negotiation, it ended up being the bulls. This event really isnt in the same class as the supposed kobe talks, a good coach is needed for sure, but how much can a coach really do after tip off? In other words, d’antoni would never immediately make us a contender or even a playoff bound team, not right off the bat. This is why coaches get paid so little. They are important no doubt, but they arent the ones who score or defend.
Taking time to consider all things about a coach is not a bad idea, its alot different for when trying to get an all star or superstar, we were foolish last season who questioned bryant on the bulls (at least most of us) and i think due to this horrible season we are now (as fans) desiring big changes to occur without being in the know at all. Its just creating alot of negative energy on this blog and allowing people to come in and swear and discuss trading the entire roster and blowing the team up….uhh.
Until November i am sticking with this slogan, The Bulls deserve a Second Chance. From Shannon brown all the way up to John Paxson, this team deserves one more chance. Maybe im naive, but ill go forward as a naive fool, rather then a pessimistic blogger.
I apologize in advance…
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on
May 13, 2008 4:04 PM CDT
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well piccolomair & sue
when you change your mind come November, and this same declining situation exist. Remember Jerry Reinsdorf will not forgive you and demand you to support the bulls, your word is your word and you are not allow to change your mind, even if Kirk is also traded. I’ll look to see you at the home games against other subpar NBA teams because there will be many empty seats.
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I don't live
in Chicago and have never been to a Bulls game. If Kirk gets traded I won’t be here.
by sue369 on
May 13, 2008 6:43 PM CDT
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huh
I dont think ill change my mind before november even if kirk is traded. Im sure ill follow his career, but if the bulls are doing good in november ill be a fan. If they arent doinig well, ill still be a fan but the organizations second chance would have been used by then and i would join the hating party.
Also im thinking more so late november rather then early november. Why? Because by then there should have been a fair ammount of games into the season that will be able to gauge if the bulls made the neccessary changes that will lead to improvement, or have yet again screwed up.
And about the empty seats… HELL YEA ILL GO. I love the game of basketball, Watching pros is incredible. The skill level is so far beyond me its remarkable. Even if the bulls themselves suck, i can watch a few players do what they do and be in awe of the spectacular abilities. I mean, i love just going down to the park and shooting around, and sometimes there will be a bunch of guys that i dont know having a pickup game and i like just sitting and watching them do thier thing and wait for those spectacular plays and shots, or watch the horrible ones and enjoy the humor in them. So yea for cheap tickets id go watch basketball games at the pro level despite who is playing and how they are playing.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.
by piccolomair on
May 13, 2008 10:42 PM CDT
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the story goes that Reinsdorf hasn't made an offer to a coach's agent since
Brent Musberger’s brother (Phil Jackson’s agent & insidery name-check) pissed him off. Whether it gives Reinsdorf an edge, or he really doesn’t care how much a coach gets paid is up to interpretation (interpretation that no one here is qualified to offer). Either way it isn’t a new development, and you have a crappy agent if Reinsdorf’s hangups about the hiring process come as a surprise.
I can’t criticize an owner for doing things that appear different from the norm, because I don’t know what the norm is, or if Reinsdorf is really making an error. It looks like D’Antoni passed up a shot at a better situation, and a chance to push the Knicks into a offering a bigger contract. Two dumb moves in one.
by hscs on May 13, 2008 9:19 AM CDT 0 recs
or two smart moves.
the Knicks job isn’t that bad, and he did get a big contract.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on
May 13, 2008 9:32 AM CDT
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it's better for D'Antoni
because he wants to do his thing (whatever it is) without a boss bossing him around. The Bulls would have been a safer choice as far as getting the next big contract goes.
by hscs on
May 13, 2008 10:54 AM CDT
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before we declare the organization a disaster
Jerry said a lot…wonder if D’Antoni was irked about that. But then again, when the media is skewering you saying you didn’t do x or y, I’d want to set the record straight too. Personally, I think Pax has handled the criticism a lot better than I would. It’s tiring enough to hear the same tropes like “He didn’t try for Garnett!! He didn’t try for Gasol!!!” from the fans, but when some columnists insist on distorting things, I’d want to rant and rave about the real story too. It may not change the Reinsdorf-haters’ opinion, but it’s good to get your side of the story out there.
IMHO, there’s no mystery here, nor is not getting D’Antoni another sign/example of a glaring pattern of incompetence. They didn’t expect he’d available. He became available. They explored the option, but he’s not so great a coach that you hire him in a day at max money. The guy didn’t use his bench more when his best players were breaking down or recovering. He balks at the notion of playing more defense. When they wanted to explore that for a teensy bit more, he gets antsy and jumps for Donnie, who’s been around forever and waved more cash. D’Antoni admits he doesn’t have a very sound reason. He admitted the Bulls made a decent offer and have more players. What are Pax & Jerry supp

