Open Game Thread #77: Bulls at Miami Heat
[Thanks to wjb1492 for today's game preview. Go Heat and Bobcats. -Matt]
How great is it to cheer for a team that plays hard and plays together? That makes its free throws? That, when it stares into the jaws of defeat with just 2 minutes to play, locks down on defense and outscores its opponent 24-8 down the stretch to pull out an OT victory? That at the end of the season reigns supreme? Thank you, national champion Kansas Jayhawks, for providing some unbridled joy to this basketball fan, when her NBA team has been nothing but a sore disappointment.
And speaking of the Bulls, while not technically eliminated from the playoffs yet - hard as that is to believe at this point in a miserable season - the Bulls are certainly out of it. The official moment comes with the next Bulls' loss or the next Hawks' win, and Atlanta (@Indiana) has a decent shot at that win tonight. At some level it seems like this eminent official elimination should hurt more than it does, and instead it's something that many here seem to have been looking forward to for some time.
What if Atlanta fails to lock it up? Can the Bulls actually win a game, and thus continue to torture us all with infinitisimal playoff possibilities? Tonight's opponent is our old friend, the Miami Heat, perhaps the only other NBA team that is even arguably as disappointing as our Bulls (although I think the Bulls "win" that argument). The catch is, these aren't really our old-friends-Miami-Heat. No Shaq, no D-Wade, no Posey the Thug, no Haslem. The Heat's anticipated starting line-up for tonight includes Chris Quinn, Daequan Cook, Ricky Davis, Earl Brown, and Mark Blount, a group of players Shaq basically said suck big time. Surely, even the Bulls can beat this 13-and-64 Heat team, right? Because, even though on some level I couldn't care less, I have to acknowledge that somewhere deep down a loss to a team this bad would really bug me. And I'm not ready for my Jayhawk buzz to burst.
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Boylan is going to be happy
by shoryuken on Apr 8, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody watch that heat intro
by bullshooter on Apr 8, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That Hall of Fame thing?
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you've got it backwards
by bullshooter on Apr 8, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To clarify,
But, emotionally, I just can't reconcile that with losing to the Heat. Maybe if the Bulls went into full-on tank mode, too, and started the bench guys or a few D-League call ups.
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich is cheating off his man a lot
by bullshooter on Apr 8, 2008 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, don't worry,
by cranscape on Apr 8, 2008 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
by bullzfan148 on Apr 8, 2008 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he read some of Homegrown's posts
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game would have been way more interesting
by RogersPark Kris on Apr 8, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This really takes me back to 2004.
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Kerr just professed his love for Gray's
by RogersPark Kris on Apr 8, 2008 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This contest resembles a rec league game
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I might have to go re-watch one of KU's final 4 games instead. This is putting me to sleep.
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember the good old days
Now we're just left with bullshooter bullshooting his way to piss off Matt.
(oh, I'm just joshing with you, bullshooter)
by NittanyBull on Apr 8, 2008 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to the brim*
by NittanyBull on Apr 8, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's difficult to comment intelligently
by Freethefro on Apr 8, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part of this game is the
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice if the Heat announcers could
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They did
by sue369 on Apr 8, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, that was nice
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus has
by sue369 on Apr 8, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls are losing to a team . . .
by Big D on Apr 8, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm worried
by Freethefro on Apr 8, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
am i a bad buls fan
by tyrus4prez on Apr 8, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Quinn is a machine
wait, what?
by NittanyBull on Apr 8, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this lineup
by tyrus4prez on Apr 8, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Quinn is tearing the Bulls up
by Big D on Apr 8, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I pray to Allah
Chris Quinn?
by NittanyBull on Apr 8, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you muslim
by piccolomair on Apr 8, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche....
by piccolomair on Apr 9, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zo
by Zac23 on Apr 8, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So much for pride.
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
John Paxson ows me money.
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and time
by tyrus4prez on Apr 8, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why the hell...
by bullzfan148 on Apr 8, 2008 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because Jim Boylan loves mediocrity.
by NittanyBull on Apr 8, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They aren't trying to win
by wjb1492 on Apr 8, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
$eng
by Zac23 on Apr 8, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a fitting way to be eliminated
by Big D on Apr 8, 2008 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they played about 5
by bullzfan148 on Apr 8, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The schedules really favor
The Bobcats have the Knicks, Pacers, Nets and Sixers.
The Bulls have the Magic, Cavs, Magic, Bucks and Raptors, so they could lose out all of their remaining games.
Increased statistical chance for draft pick #8 here we come!
by bullhockey on Apr 9, 2008 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woo-hoo!
Drawback being now the league will think this team is full of bad players, but then again they're the types to line up to look smart in a reclamation project.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moving up past CHA
by bullshooter on Apr 9, 2008 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
technically, sure
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and to be clear
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls better secure a good coach and
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, how are they possibly
I'd really like it, though, if somehow the Bulls can trade away some of the bigger chips, and maybe the draft pick, for one good guard, point or shooting.
by NittanyBull on Apr 8, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember
by bullshooter on Apr 9, 2008 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I like the idea mentioned here of getting someone similarly overpaid, yet more receptive to fewer minutes. Or more accurately, someone who the coaching staff would be more receptive to giving fewer minutes.
However I thought that's what was possible with Hughes, yet the clown coach (under the watch of the sleepy GM) still found a way for 'entitlement' minutes.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of true
by Jaina on Apr 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, well
Why Duhon's back playing I have no clue. He's not coming back next season. Don't wake Paxson though.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are definitely times
but yeah, it's not actually that bad.. 0-6 against boston? he only got 21 minutes. 2-8 against atlanta? 18 minutes.
i'd much rather have him than wallace, so i don't regret the trade at all. at least he's not getting 35 entitlement minutes a night while producing nothing. :)
but yeah.. duhon. i love after boylan's "apology" or whatever, or admitting he was punishing him etc... he comes back. like WHY. yet he won't change his rotations to allow tyrus to play more until gooden's been out...
by Jaina on Apr 9, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet Duhon
by tyrus4prez on Apr 9, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow..
by bullzfan148 on Apr 8, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how the Bulls will make a bad
I smell an uninspired coaching hire and a brash trade of young talent.
Paxson is on the clock.
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
watch..
by bullzfan148 on Apr 8, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to get another diligent, plodding
Then we'll sit him. Woohoo!
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blow this team up
by Big D on Apr 8, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah for the Miami Heat dancers.
WCUI pulling out all of the stops to entertain the Chicago audience.
by 1958ChiTown on Apr 8, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a good loss for DA BULLS
by Orlando Woolridge on Apr 8, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe we managed to out-tank the Heat.
by Illini15 on Apr 8, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls weren't tanking
by Big D on Apr 8, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine with me.
by Illini15 on Apr 8, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimbo is a genius
by Orange Juice on Apr 8, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one wanted
by sue369 on Apr 8, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
passing issues
by serbstream on Apr 8, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gordon
by armstrong2389 on Apr 8, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Get rid of Gordon and Hinrich both
by Illini15 on Apr 8, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If i worked the AP press....
AP Press- Luol Deng sighting! Oh wait he's playing against Ricky Buckets and a bunch of people who wont be in the NBA after 2 weeks. Throw in 5 TOs and uh...
See Hinrich. See Hinrich bring the ball up the court. See Hinrich pass the ball immediately after passing half court. See Hinrich spend the next 20 seconds standing in the corner doing nothing. Maybe he wished he was playing in the KU game.
Superstar to be Ben Gordon challenges Larry Hughes' to a "who can shoot the crappiest" contest. Gordon puts in a 4-13 performance against people who are his height and less athletically gifted than him.
Larry Hughes (unaware of the shooting contest) wins though as he manages to shoot 30%. Hughes is happy with his performance despite the loss, because he is able to play his style of bball (off-balance contested jumpers).
Tyrus and Noah - 21 rebounds
Heat starting bigs - 8 rebounds
Boylan smartly limits Noah and Tyrus to 32 minutes. In the postgame interview, Boylan stated that Noah may be suspended for the next 2 games for actually trying to play. 16 points on 50% shooting is unacceptable.
by shoryuken on Apr 8, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This post
by Illini15 on Apr 8, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
by piccolomair on Apr 8, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the picture of the night...
by DarthSidius on Apr 8, 2008 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Joakim's face
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I can say is LOLZ
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AP Headline tonight...
Amazing.
by Illini15 on Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At least he's the MVP!
I long for the days of Lonny Baxter.
by cubbybear on Apr 8, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Ron Duprees and Linton Johnsons
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well thats it
get rid of:gordon,duhon,hughes(somehow find a sucker)
and can we finally bench all these bms and play the others like brown,nicholos,and jamesOn?
by Yibs on Apr 8, 2008 10:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Completely off-topic
http://www.ripcityrising.com/ripcityrising_lamarcus.html
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2008 10:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i stopped
Your Chicago Bulls, where 18 year old college girls playing better than you, happens.
by NormVanBeer on Apr 8, 2008 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this
by jpchi on Apr 9, 2008 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really
by NormVanBeer on Apr 9, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This loss probably ticks Pax off
by armstrong2389 on Apr 9, 2008 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank god the Sox are back
by gobulls1124 on Apr 9, 2008 12:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boylan has derailed this franchise.
Boylan continues to mouth the mantra that he will make sure his players will work hard in practice and conduct themselves as professionals on the court even though the season has been flushed down the toilet....is he talking about professional wrestlers? and by the way, he will use the same lineups that brought him so much success this year...(in other words, limit the minutes of those young upstarts who dared to challenge his managerial expertise...Damn right, I'll show 'em whose boss ...I am not a dufus). It is obvious the entire team has quit on him or would it be more accurate to say they never really got started under his lack of leadership and guidance. He was outcoached in almost every game with his bizarre rotations, inexplicable lineups and chaotic decision making at crucial times.
Can anyone with a modicum of basketball knowledge please explain what system he was running with both his offensive and defensive sets? Was there a single phase where the team and the individual players did not regress, some dramatically?
His clownish demeanor both off and on the court is almost too outlandish to parody. Didn't Paxson recognize how humiliating his stale excuses, alibies, and false bravado sounded (I'm in charge, I know what I'm doing) as the entire team was abandoning this rudderless ship in almost full mutiny. The most appropriate symbol that would accurately reflect on the organization would be a giant turd. He was a constant source of emabarassment and incompetence. He proved he had lacked the smarts to help teach the younger players to improve either their playing skills, confidence or attitude.
Skyles must have been a genius to squeeze as much out of these players as he did, but then they all came from highly successful programs so I put their failure directly on management, including Paxson. Is it too late to resurrect and reignite the desire and effort to make this embarrasing franchise a winner again? This team needs leadership and if it isn't going to come from the players, it is obvious that a great coaching staff will be required to jumpstart these young talents with attitude adjustments which can only be accomplished by working under persons that earn and demand their respect.
How can any professional respect coaches whose track records prove they are losers. You cannot teach something you're clueless about. I hope Paxson has gotten a wake up call, because this season proved that he too, has a lot to learn.
Down goes Boylan, down goes Boylan! Up comes Noah, up comes Tyrus, up comes Thabo, up comes Kirk, up comes everybody.
by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 9, 2008 3:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was too much to take
This is quite a mess.
by Sports2 on Apr 9, 2008 7:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How much longer til this season is over?
by tyger1147 on Apr 9, 2008 8:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: new Bulls Beat notes
-the Bulls will try very hard to trade their draft pick...they don't want to spend time developing another young player
-Tyrus officially apologized to the entire organization (Pax, coaches, players) and has turned over a new leaf as far as his work ethic goes
-NOBODY on the team is safe this summer. Everyone is available to be traded.
by NormVanBeer on Apr 9, 2008 8:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
considering
by cranscape on Apr 9, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they're somehow lucky enough
by alec on Apr 9, 2008 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i completely agree
and glad to see that about ty - i don't really want him as the first one on the chopping block this postseason.
by Jaina on Apr 9, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
As TYI posted earlier this season, the extent of the Bulls involvement in their players' development is waking up to see if anybody's at the Berto Center. For all they know Gordon and Deng were pulling costanzas and just leaving their cars in the lot :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do they think they'll fetch with the pick?
I dunno about trading the pick in general. Most of the time, the team getting a lottery pick gets the better end of the deal.
by Sports2 on Apr 9, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pick plus Noc/Hinrich/Hughes
Interesting work on that post, although I'd say the Bulls are a pretty special case since they're already the youngest team in the league.
Interestingly enough, Sam Smith's memory says that the Bulls wanted to deal #7 (Deng) for Al Harrington. I'd want someone better than that, of course.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem, of course.
by tyger1147 on Apr 9, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not that big of a problem
Using it to dump salary is a big stickier. I can't believe they signed Nocioni to a 5 year contract. (just had to throw that out there, again)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a simple theory...
by tyger1147 on Apr 9, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope and
by sue369 on Apr 9, 2008 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After this debacle of a season
by alec on Apr 9, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in agreement
by NormVanBeer on Apr 9, 2008 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto on the Gordon thing
by piccolomair on Apr 9, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm lighting a similar candle
Give Gordon $75m and tell him you're sorry :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 9, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
by sue369 on Apr 9, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
by Goostafer on Apr 9, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be honest man
by piccolomair on Apr 9, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one said
by sue369 on Apr 9, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok,
by Goostafer on Apr 9, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the right players
by cranscape on Apr 9, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing about gordon
by Jaina on Apr 9, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i basically
by Jaina on Apr 9, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree they
I use to really like Noch but this season he drives me crazy. Is it because he tries too hard? I don't know the answer.
by sue369 on Apr 9, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't mean
by Jaina on Apr 9, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we lose?
by NBA Observer on Apr 9, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see the irony. . .
by AGBallinisaHabit on Apr 10, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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