who the hell we should of got then??????

Yet ill say this, when you come into the league, you either ARE a pure PG, or you are not a pure pg. Its like lowpost scoring, if you get a center who doesnt have post moves after 3 years into his season, he probably wont learn later, I.E. chandler. He will never be a guy who can get stuff done in the post. He NEEDS a chris paul to give him an alley so he can oop. He needs the moment where he can jump grab the ball and dunk it. That is his game, he may get a baby hook now and then, but he will never be able to play the post like a tim duncan.

In that same sense, Hinrich will never be a pure point guard, he never was, not in kansas, not in high school, and not in the nba. He is a shoot first pg who uniquely decides to pass. You defined a pg having physical and mental abilities that allowed them to be pure, but i think theres alot of instinct that goes with it.

Go to a playground and play with some people, there are guys who are just insanely good at finding cutters and open men, who can dribble penetrate with simplistic moves, and can see the entire court without problem. Ive met and asked a bunch of people who can do this (ive always wanted those abilities) and they always say they just can do it. They can just see the open guy, theres no real way to learn to do this, it just that they can. They can see the holes in defense and know how to react to them, maybe you can learn this ability with alot of experience, but its nothing easy to learn, especially as you get older.

I think kirk TRIED to be a pure pg this season, i think he actually tried to be a distributor this year, tried to get ben gordon and luol deng the looks they needed to succeed. I think this is part of why he has done so bad this season. I think every one everywhere has critqued hinrichs career 6 assists per game, which is very low for a pg. I think he tried to become a distributor this year and it cost him.

So why is hinrich a good pg then? Because although he may never be a pure pg, he is a smart guard who can score and is unselfish. He is alot like Chancey Billups except without the same swagger. I think hinrich’s main problem has been that he hesitates and doubts his moves. On defense if he goes all out, he gets in foul trouble. If he doesnt, well guys then have career games. If he shoots the ball and misses, i think he becomes doubtful if he should continue shooting because if he continues to miss, the team may lose. If he decides to pass the ball too much though, and no one is able to score, then he wonders if he should try to get the team back with his shots. Of course i dont know if this is completely true, however, I have the same thoughts in my head when i play (this is a habit i had before i ever saw kirk play, and when i saw him play he seemed like a guy who was on the verge of finding that ‘balance’, which is why he is my favorite player). More evidence i think is when he signed my shirt awhile back at a circuit city and wrote “Go Hard”, at first i thought it was a pointless quick thought message, but i think that maybe its the words people have told him about his game.

I think kirk has the offensive abilities, defensive abilities, and b-ball iq to be something great. I think his biggest problems isnt his lack of skills, but more lack of mentality. I dont know if thats worse or better then lack of skills, but i believe it is something that can be overcome. Thats why i ask that hinrich should get one more year (who exactly im asking, im not sure) because i think this losing season might be what is needed to get him out of that mental funk.

Sorry bullhockey (and everyone else) i made this comment long as hell, but i just wanted to get alot of this off my chest. Thanks for reading (if you did)

Because I’m fairly certain the primary ballhandler was rarely Harper, but rather Scottie or MJ. PG’s on Phil Jackson teams rarely ever fit the “pure” mentality.

a former All-Star and already known for his versatile game before ever coming to the Bulls. He was also in the twilight of his career (at least one majore knee surgery, maybe more) before Jordan un-retired, as you may recall that the Bulls were getting lambasted for signing him as a free agent. I believe they gave him like $9M when his next best offer was in the $4M range. Chicago press was up in arms about his hiring, saying the Bulls had signed “the wrong Harper” (the other one being Derek).

Ron Harper sure did play PG for the 2nd 3peat, but you’ve also got to understand that things were so extremely different when he came in and took on PG duties, as compared to Thabo.

I agree with the comparison in the sense that both are tall guards who can be hawks on defense. It’s just that Thabo may have a rather long way to go…

The floor is seen by all the components of the triangle. Everyone is a passer. Everyone is a shooter. But most of all everyone is looking for the player with the better shot.

Hire triangle head coach. Draft Eric Gordon. Find a way so Hughes never plays.

i like arenas also, its just that he isnt a playmaking point guard and if we have him at shooting guard i dont know how he would match up on defense. i do love gilbert and it would be great to watch somebody as clutch as he was last year. another problem is his knee funk or whatever

scares the hell out of me. Any player with knee problems is one who should be avoided. No injury takes away more explosiveness, and no body part takes more stress in basketball than the knee.