New BullsBeat - 4/22 - Blog a Bull

New BullsBeat - 4/22

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2008 9:44 AM CDT

http://www.bullsbeat.com/bullsbeat_36.mp3

NormVanBeer 's notes of interest…

-some random Boylan talk
-apparently Noah hates the Bulls organization. He feels that the Bulls don’t work as hard as his Florida Gators did (e.g. on road trips he wanted to get extra practice time in but could not find anyone to help him). He didn’t like how the latest issue (with him not starting for the last game) was handled. He plans to be a strong vocal leader next season. He wants to lead the team.

-apparently BG has the best work ethic on the team. He never goes out drinking with the rest of the guys. Even aside from the summer workouts, he is constantly working out any chance he gets and works on his game.

-Kirk and Du are the drinking “buddies” of the team and hit the bars and clubs the hardest (I think most of us already knew this).

-Some McGrady trade speculation (Kirk, BG, & TT for T-Mac)

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Actually T-Mac

would be great as a second option player similiar to:
1) Scottie was with MJ,
2) Boozer/AK47 to Deron Williams,
3) David West/Pega to CP3,
4) Manu/Parker to Duncan,
5) Pau/Odom to Kobe,
6) Pierce/Allen to KG,
7) Lewis/Turk to Dwight Howard.

These current playoff teams have 1,2,3 option players. The overrated Pistons I didn’t include, but they do have some good pieces and good young guys growing up in the NBA.

8) / to Lebron (something has to give in Cleveland )

Bulls are in search of first and second option player, whereas Ben Gordon will be a good 3rd option on a better NBA team.

The problem with McGrady, is acquiring him, and where would we find a a better than McGrady first option?
I also see Dirk with loads of talent, but would be better suited as a 2nd option player.
Cuban, probably will screw up the Mavs, but Kidd was a bad move. Mavs needed to obtain a first option PF, SG or Center to pair with Dirk. While Brandon Bass is servicable, they will now find themselves looking for a PG. Eric Dampier is Aaron Gray with a better contact.

by exult463 on Apr 23, 2008 11:10 AM CDT 0 recs

Cleveland has

Lebron and Ben Wallace!! hahaha…suckers!!

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Apr 23, 2008 11:28 AM CDT up 0 recs

what do you mean suckers?

Between them, this dynamic duo averages over 34 points a game. Can the Bulls top that?

by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 23, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

Sounds to me

like Noah is just having a hard time adjusting to the NBA. I do think Boylan was wrong on the last benching. I hope that is part of the reason he was fired.

by sue369 on Apr 23, 2008 1:06 PM CDT 0 recs

I think the camel's back was broken by the time that particular piece of straw was added

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Apr 23, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think what Noah had a hard time adjusting to

was the batch of lazy, indifferent players going through the motions he had to deal with everyday in practice and sit on the bench and watch during games.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Apr 23, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up 0 recs

he had a hard time being on time too

Of course the character discussion means playing favorites.

by hscs on Apr 23, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

that irks me also

not as much that he’s late in itself, but that he’s trying to take this leader torch and can’t wait to tell others he wants to…yet still can’t get to work on time.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

All that may be true, but even so,

it’s still my guess that when Paxson lines up all the players he’d be willing to let go this off season, Noah is last in line.

Dum spiro spero! (While there is life, there’s hope!)--Leon Trotsky

by alec on Apr 23, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

If Paxson really believes all the character talk he spouts

Noah is probably much higher up that list than any of us would like to know. Between his aforementioned chronic tardiness and willingness to speak his mind, he’s not exactly the type of company line man that Paxson would prefer. Noah’s probably more likely than any other player on this team to create “distractions.” I don’t think Noah’s going anywhere anytime soon, but I wouldn’t be surprised if his Bulls’ tenure is much shorter than I’d prefer.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Apr 23, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

depends what he believes is 'character'

in the first place. I’d say tardiness isn’t good, but caring about winning (and better yet, playing like it) is. Just showing up for work and not getting arrested isn’t the same as ‘good character’, really

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 23, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think some of that "character" that he likes is just "don't rock the boat"

It seems he wants “professionals” who show up on time, do their work, and go home.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Apr 23, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

So he wants assasins

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 23, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up 0 recs

As long as they don't wear cornrows or headbands and know how to not get caught during the job.

I don’t think he’d really care if they were killers.

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Apr 23, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up 0 recs

All without talking, at least beyond the party line...

That’s how we ended up with a locker room of quiet guys, with no one to step into the void of silence after Skiles left, isn’t it?

My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!

by wjb1492 on Apr 23, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

magic new coach juice should ignite everyone's leadership torch

I’d be more comfortable opening my mouth with some regular rotation entitlement minutes, and a coach who is all grown up anyway.

by hscs on Apr 23, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up 0 recs

Noah was not

an innocent victim in all that went on. He may think that some of his teammates are lazy and indifferent but most of them showed up on time for practice and team events.

by sue369 on Apr 23, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up 0 recs

I am a Noah fan,

but until he becomes a 3/4s of a Chandler/Camby type, he is going to be hard pressed finding people to listen to him on any team.

by McCabe on Apr 23, 2008 1:38 PM CDT 0 recs

he's already good

Production isn’t an obstacle.

by hscs on Apr 23, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up 0 recs

He is 3/4 of a Chandler

All he’s missing is the foul trouble.

Rusty Longley v 2.0

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 23, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'd take

Noah over Chandler any day.

by sue369 on Apr 23, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

On this team

He’s light years ahead. If I was going to line up the players on this team in terms of their leadership ability, it’d be something like Noah, Gordon and Duhon that are the team captains.

It’s instructive that, leaving aside Noah, the rookie, the other two guys actually wanted to be captains of the team and were “voted down”.

by Sports2 on Apr 24, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up 0 recs

Unless you

know them personally or have played with them you don’t know what kind of leadership ability they have. There is probably a reason they weren’t voted captains.

by sue369 on Apr 25, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up 0 recs

Duhon would lead them to a bar

by paxson43 on Apr 25, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up 1 recs

Yes, yes he would.

by sue369 on Apr 25, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up 0 recs

Heh

That seems an obvious fallacy. Obviously there’s a lot of information out there that gives you an idea of what kind of leadership a person might offer. Quotes and non-quotes by them and about them, watching their demeanor on the court, watching the way they interact with other players, etc. There’s a huge amount of info out there to inform you.

And my whole point is that there was a reason they weren’t voted captains. Very often a vote says as much about the guys doing the voting as about the guys who are being voted on.

by Sports2 on Apr 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up 0 recs