Skiles accepts Milwaukee Job
Just a verbal agreement but the off-season has begun. Skiles has agreed to be the Bucks next head coach. I wonder if he'll take Boylan with him to Milwaukee (he did play at Marquette).
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3356713
Apparently he's agreed to coach and all that's left is the financial aspects of a deal so that's one less vacancy out there for whomever Paxson wanted. I don't think Skiles would've ever seriously considered taking the Knicks job with Curry AND Crawford out there. The article mentions it, but in case anyone didn't want to read the whole thing. Skiles was drafted by the Bucks originally in 1986.
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i'd be surprised
if Boylan can find MIlwaukee
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
re Boylan
Since he couldn’t find his ass with both hands while here in Chicago, why would you be surprised if he couldn’t find Milwaukee? I would be even more surprised if the gopher could spell Milwaukee, but if we’re really lucky, the control freak Skiles will take Adams and the other assistants with him, thus assuring job security since there will be noone working under him that could ever pose a replacement threat if the Bucks continue to falter.
I think Skiles will get them to play harder and smarter and if the Bulls don’t get a decent coach, the Bucks could surpass them, not a great accomplishment.
by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 21, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Adams was a Bulls Hire
not a Skiles hire.
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/adams_030716.html
Paxson has stated that Adams, Mike Wilhelm and Pete Myers will be reassigned within the organization. It’s not clear if any of them will have a courtside seat as a coach in the next administration.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
that's a damned good question
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 21, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd bet my house on it
Where’s Market Maker when you need him?
When a coach makes a lateral move (head coach to head coach, as opposed to head coach to assistan), it cancels all prior obligations of his former employer. The league can’t have a head coach getting paid by the team he’s playing against that night.
Also, the Bulls come out pretty sweet on this deal. They paid Skiles for the duration of the season and only paid Boylan his normal assistant’s salary. The Bulls didn’t take on one penny more of a financial obligation for this mess.
Great!
I’m really happy for bilionaire Reinsdorf and the rest of the corporation he works with.
Considering NONE of this has ANY effect on the Bulls player salary cap, we should all be hoping that that the Bulls pay through the nostrils when they force us to watch idiots like Boylan all season.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
at least you're spelling KEA's name right
Ownership saving money just means more resources for getting a real coach. The only idiots are the people who willingly pay to see Boylan coach, Nocioni growl, and complain about the outcome.
Do you really think the Bulls...
Don’t have massive amounts of resources already?
This isn’t Memphis were talking about.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea how much the Bulls are willing to spend v. what they can spend, and neither do you
But it’s good that they’ll likely have more to pay for an entirely new coaching staff.
You completely missed my point...
But I’m glad that you can rest easy knowing Reinsdorf’s money is safe after this coaching debacle.
Personally I don’t think money will be a factor when choosing a coach, it’ll likely be the fact that the Bulls don’t have a very good team right now.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
the Bulls need an entireley new staff
and Paxson’s recent comments didn’t intimate he’s going to keep what’s left on the bench, and armed with clipboards. A new coach could have a Nellie-sized bench of underlings, and the Bulls should be investing in infrastructure to solve the players-hate-the-org problem they’ve had for the past decade.
I don’t care how much money Reinsdorf saves. Skiles savings are only relevant to offseason spending.
I buy that...
I just can’t shake the image of Reisdorf laughing at us all as it works out for him in the end.
You are probably right though.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
they gave Boylan an increase
when he took the head coaching job. And I’m pretty sure they’re paying Boylan’s salary next year, too, if he chose not to get another job.
by KT on Apr 21, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m sure I saw a report
that said the Bulls kept Boylan on his assistant’s salary. Don’t remember where I saw it. Maybe it was in a dream. Anybody else remember seeing that?
KC reported it last week
Boylan was promoted to “interim head coach” but his salary remained at “assistant head coach”.
by NBA Observer on Apr 21, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
KC disagrees
The Bucks made their offer tough to beat, fully guaranteeing $18 million to Skiles, who is still owed $6 million from the Bulls.
That just doesn’t make sense. Although maybe such a rule only applies to players.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I rescind my offer.
I’ve given away too many houses already…maybe MM already owns one of ‘em.
But I will try to folow that up.
OK
just put a call in to Waddle. Their producer is going to check it out and they’ll bring it up later on the show. I probably won’t be listening, but if anyone catches it…fill us in. Thanks.
I just called their show to get the ball rolling
Their producer is giong to fact-check it. I fugure they have better contacts into that sort of thing than I do.
it's starting to make sense
I recall Riley was trying to get out of paying the handsome Van Gundy, or stop him from coaching in Orlando due to some far-from-bulletproof non-compete clause in his contract.
heh, Riles
I don’t remember this, but maybe Riles was just trying to use the NY Jets argument when they traded Belichek, an assistant coach, to the Patriots. Belichek was under contract to the Jets though as an active coach. Van Gundy was just reassignd in the Heat organization.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm probably wrong
Billy Donovan was supposed to sign a 5 year non-compete with Orlando, then scurried back to college, Van Gundy was a Heat consultant with 1 year left on his contract, and Riley was seeking draft picks from the Magic as compensation for losing Van Gundy.
It seems the Heat did get draft selections
He was under contract with the Heat for another year, and the Magic had to give Miami one of its three second round picks in the upcoming draft, No. 39. The Heat also have the option of switching first-round picks with Orlando next year, but not if the Magic have a lottery pick. In that case, they could take a second-round selection or other compensation.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2895929
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Belichek had been named Jets head coach and then rescinded before going to the Pats.
NFL rules don’t allow an organization to prevent a coach from accepting a position with another team if that job is regarded as a promotion.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Ahh, forgot that detail
of Belichek being named head coach of the Jets.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
This should be interesting
I kind of think it will be fun to see how the Bucks respond to him. And now we’ll find out how true it is that all his former players strongly want to kick his new team’s butt, right? Only the Bulls won’t be on the receiving end finally.
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
he'll get them to play defense, and they need to
I wonder if the new GM learned a lesson from Skiles’ Bulls days and not give him too much input on personnel
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 21, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
To the extent they're capable of it?
Hasn’t that been the plan with each and every recent Bucks’ hire?
My Bulls may suck, but my Jayhawks are National Champs!
Seems like a good fit for him.
There’s a lot of worthless crap on the roster right now, but there’s enough good pieces for Skiles to work with and get them into at least the playoffs. Despite how terrible this year was, I still have a great deal of respect for Skiles and wish he wasn’t staying in the division.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
i hope
this doesn’t mean carlisle is headed for the bulls. i don’t mind him but i don’t think he’s what we need right now.
Odds have increased
by mere subtraction of the Bucks vacancy which Carlisle was reported to be a potential candidate.
Sam Smith infers that he’d like D’Antoni in Chicago. This would be one coach that could spin our roster to play an effective uptempo offense where our defensive lapses are covered up by additional free throw attempts and using our legs to whip teams on the break and in transition.
He’s got a job though, but for how long? D’Antoni didn’t help himself on Saturday.
by NBA Observer on Apr 21, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Suns actually attempted fewer free throws than the Bulls this year.
It was only a difference of 50, but it seems larger when you consider the Suns averaged nearly 4 more possessions per game.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
That's because...
They were busy running past everyone. Most of they year they had no idea what a half court set was. Now, If they had Shaq all year they would have averaged more FT’s… Of course that has nothing to do with D’Antoni though.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, the Denver Nuggets played at an even faster pace than the Suns
and led the NBA in free throw attempts by over 200. I was even kind enough to link to basketball-reference. Return the kindness and actually look for a little support before making another one of your asinine comments.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Wow...
What did I possibly say to upset you so much?
I still stand behind my comment, and didn’t even think I was disagreeing with you, but if you want to be a jerk about it that’s fine.
Have a nice day.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh wait, I just read your signature...
Now I know we would never get along.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I was a little harsh, but I'm normally annoyed by many of your comments.
It seemed you tried to brush off the Suns attempting fewer free throws than the Bulls on the pace that they played. I was just pointing out that the Nuggets played at an even faster pace and led the NBA in FTA’s, trying to refute your point.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Oh, and about the signature, it's there because I like the quote not just because who said it.
I’m a Libertarian with many friends who are Socialists, Christian Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, and other. If you want to write me off because I like a quote from Reagan, that’s your problem.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
I don't want to argue politics...
On a Bulls blog site with you.
I’m fairly certain there are plenty of reasons why you and I would never get along… But I’m positive I could whip you in a game of 1 on 1 :P
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of people
don’t seem to get along with you all the time. I doubt they can all be Reaganites. Just chill out and try not to take offense at everything. And certainly don’t use it as a smoke screen against someone actually having a point against you such as snley. Give him credit for the Nuggets comment and move on.
It's kind of hard to hear the point...
When somebody is calling you an ass.
Fair enough, people don’t like me, I’ll live, but don’t tell me that I’m being anymore abrasive by objecting.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He said your
comment was “asinine”. Aka, that your comment was foolish and uninformed. Look up definition 1 of the word. Not that you, literally, are an ass. If he meant that he would have said, “You are an ass.” People on these boards are pretty direct when calling each other asses. He wasn’t so he didn’t. :)
That's such a backhanded apology...
Why not just say “I was harsh this time, but it’s warranted because normally you are an ass”.
If what I say bothers you I’d rather you just don’t respond at all.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Being somewhat of an expert at apologies
—well, at least having had a lot of practice at making them—I would say that snley’s statement did actually follow accepted apology form.
There’s a new form of non-apology apology that has crept into the language (surprise—it derives from politics) that goes like this: "I’m sorry you feel that way."
The difference between snley’s apology and this new form is that snley is actually taking responsibility for the effects of his remarks, rather than blaming the effects on a deficiency in the hearer.
When you hear a politician make an apology, keep your ears tuned for this distinction. I think you’ll find that they almost never really apologize for anything.
You crack me up Alec...
That really is a compliment.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It's hard to look at this stuff
in isolation. For example, when AI left Philly he took his 800 free throws with him to Denver. He didn’t reclaim all 800 (only 700), of course, because he now has to fight with Melo for the ball. But the thing is, they are each among the most aggressive players in the league at taking the ball to the basket and drawing fouls.
My point is that yes Denver plays at a fast pace, but how many of their foul shots derive from pace and how many derive from personnel?
Absolutely alec, there's very different types of players and systems in the NBA.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Yes...
Denver plays at a high pace, but they also attack the basket in the half court set.
They have good offensive balance on that team.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The suns attack the rim too...
Usually with a pick and roll to Amare.
But they also have good jump shooters and usually score before 3 seconds run off the shot clock.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't some of these stats correct for pace?
I’m watching ABC show me Denver’s league leading blocks and steals on display against the Lakers yesterday and it’s all because Denver has more possessions than everyone they face.
I’m only going to be able to follow about half of these stats. Once you start throwing these out in every reply in ends up producing a robotic conversation.
by NBA Observer on Apr 21, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Just look to offensive and defensive rating.
Those give you the number of points scored/allowed per 100 possessions. If you really wanted to break down further on say blocks/possession, just figure out the number of defensive possessions a team has played in a season and use that number to divide the number of blocks. You’re right, it’s getting a little tired. It’s just, when I read some of these comments you or others make, I like to verify them as best I can. I was curious about how many FT’s the Suns shot and decided to check it out. I should give credit where credit is due though. John Hollinger has contrasted the Suns and the relative lack of FT’s in their games to the Jazz and the overabundance of FT’s in their games. I knew the Suns didn’t commit fouls that much, but I didn’t realize how infrequently they were fouled themselves.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
It's going to be humiliating...
if the Bucks finish ahead of the Bulls in the Central next season.
But at least I can look forward to thirty minutes of Drew Gooden every night. Thank God.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
I wonder who will be the first Bucks player
to receive the full brunt of the ‘Skile’s Scowl’. My money is Charlie Villanueva.
by RogersPark Kris on Apr 21, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
My money is on Redd
Underized shooting guard who doesn’t play defense and has no passing skills? Sound familiar? Maybe Skiles will decide to bring Redd off the bench….
On the plus side, maybe Skiles will demand that the Bucks trade for Nocioni
They will
Just take Bobby Simmons and they’ll take Nocioni.
by NBA Observer on Apr 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd take that trade...
I liked Simmons when he played at DePaul, and obviously he was solid a couple years back (most improved player).
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That's part of the problem
The year we had makes trading Nocioni for Bobby Simmons, his big contract, and his health look like a good trade.
by NBA Observer on Apr 21, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It's kind of a wash...
They both have big contracts and past health issues.
But Bobby Simmons at 10.5 mil through 2009 feels better than Nocioni at 7+ mil through 2012.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 21, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The trade helps them more than us
Both clubs have a hard time telling which players are 3s and which ones are 4s.
by NBA Observer on Apr 21, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
You beat me to it!
How long before you see Redd playing the four?
by OldSkoolSloan on Apr 21, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Bucks fan
hope to see Redd playing somewhere else. Seriously. He and Skiles will class eventually, because Redd has a habit of ignoring his coaches and then lying about it. “Yay, Larry told me to jack up that stupid shot, it’s all his fault.”
by KT on Apr 21, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's almost certain they will clash
Skiles is all about defense!
Redd is about chucking up crazy shots (which he makes most of the time)
You wonder what Hammond is thinking
Not that hiring Skiles was a bad selection. I think it was good. I just look at the Bucks and see even greater looming questions from that roster than when Phoenix made Skiles the head coach and when Chicago hired him.
It’s obvious by now that Skiles can get average defenders to play collectively as a unit to become above average defenders. His teams are almost always in the top 10 in defensive ratings. Naturally, his offensive ratings are in the bottom 10. He sounds like a candidate for the triangle offense.
The Bucks have a lot of shooters that aren’t really interested in playing defense. Redd, Williams, and Villanueva could all drop 30 points on any given night, but they cannot stop or limit anyone. As a unit, they might have better luck, but Krystowiak said that was almost impossible to accomplish. He’d see it in practice and it would rarely show up in games.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how good of a fit
Skiles in Milwaukee will be. He can’t run the motion offense with that roster, it’d be a waste of big man talent. They need to dump the ball in to Bogut. They’d be a better fit for the triangle than the motion offense. But they will play better defense next year.
2008 or bust.
One would think Carlisle
would have been a much better fit.
But I like the Buck’s personnel, and I think Skiles may be thinking he can turn them around much more quickly than some of the other open coaching situations.
Plus, I don't think we know
how well the Bucks can play ‘D’. Is it the personnel or the coaching that made Chicago an elite defensive team during the Skiles era? This season will tell us a lot.
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"
Overall this is a really good
decision for Skiles. He isn’t out of the game for too long. By telling the Bulls that the team needed a new voice, he avoided a lot more losses and therefore his overall coaching record stayed a little closer to .500.
By getting back in it, he may give up a payday from the Bulls, but he also gets a hugely underachieving team, a team more underachieving and more dysfunctional even than his Bulls.
Look for him to instill discipline and better conditioning from day 1. With the shooters and ball handlers on this Milwaukee team, I think Skiles can do a lot of good with a drive and dish offense. Villanueva and Bogut and yes, even Gadzuric are bigs who can run the floor pretty well.
And there is also the fact that he’s in the same division as the Bulls, so there’s some instant motivation for his troops at least 4 times a year, if he can get through to them.
Cripes, remember how much pride the city had in the Bulls under Skiles the few seasons before this one? Given that the Bulls’ problems went way beyond Skiles and involved Wallace and Griffin, I’m guessing Pax does not like the fact that Skiles stayed in the division at all.
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"
He'll do what he does best
Achieve a quick turnaround that gets the Bucks working hard and believing in his philosophy of scoring every point like it’s D-Day. They’ll make the playoffs in that carosel of the 7th and 8th seeds with Indy, Atlanta, NJ, and realistically the Bulls. But, he won’t make it the full four years. Either the roster improves through the handiwork of Hammond and the team gets a better coach, or Skiles’ act wears thin for a 3rd NBA team and he is canned/steps down/whatever. I just pray for the city of Milwaukee that Jim Boylan does not find himself a job there.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 21, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Well Boylan probably can't do that much damage
as Skiles’ assistant. All he did when he was head coach was what he thought Skiles would do, anyway. Even if he was off.
I like how KC Johnson’s post mortem in the Trib said “Boylan’s stint was marked by improved offensive numbers from earlier this season under Skiles but also an inability to depart from the same defensive and offensive philosophies that were used by his close friend.” (Cached on google; the article has since been revised).
He’s probably already made the sales pitch to Skiles about how after Skiles was fired, Boylan did everything Skiles asked him to do with the team during their regular phone conversations. (Sorry, Jim, I guess I’m still upset at how poorly you managed rotations.)
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"
so that probably leaves Carlisle for the Bulls...
Im not very familiar with him, can anyone fill me in on what we can expect if/when he takes over?
Think he will play the young ones? Does he have any particular strenghs?
by rquinsee on Apr 21, 2008 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
We could still be
picking up a former assistant coach from one of the playoff teams. The fact Pax hasn’t named any names yet implies he is waiting for some things to develop, perhaps as a result of the playoffs.
That assistant from Boston
Tom Thibedou(sp?) will garner a great deal of interest, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bulls interviewed him. He’s getting a lot of credit for their defensive turnaround, and no doubt Paxson would love to see the Bulls re-assert themselves as the top defensive team in the league. I don’t particularly think that’s the right decision, but Paxson seems to love a certain type of style.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 21, 2008 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
He's seems like the frontrunner
Carlisle has a fine track record, and his two firings were a result of unfortunate circumstances and poor relationship with ownership, so he’s not a Skiles clone where the team just invariably quits. He was the offensive guru on the Pacers when Bird was their coach, took some crappy Pistons teams to the playoffs, and had stacked Pacers rosters that couldn’t put it together and ended up imploding with that brawl.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 21, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Carlisle was the defensive guru. His teams play mind numbingly slow.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Pretty much
His Pacer teams start dropping in DRTG once Artest is unable to play for them.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Dick Harter was the defensive guy on Indy
Carlise was the offense. And if your team is being run by Chucky Atkins, then I wouldn’t expect much out of the offense either.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess I don't really care what Carlisle's specialty is as far as offense or defense.
In the end, he’s a overly controlling coach who would be a bad fit for this team.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Most coaches are.....
And besides this is a team that doesn’t inspire much confidence where I would just hand the offense over to them. D’Antoni is just as much of a control freak, and that’s a reason why he may be on the way out in Phoenix.
Rusty Longley v 2.0
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 22, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I was referring to Carlisle's control of on court action.
D’Antoni teaches his players a system during practice and lets his players play it out during games. Obviously, it’s much easier to do that when you have Steve Nash at the point and things probably wouldn’t be as free with this team. Still, it’s much more preferable to having your PG have to walk the ball up the court and look for a play call from the bench every time.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Is this a coaching problem or a personnel problem?
Still, it’s much more preferable to having your PG have to walk the ball up the court and look for a play call from the bench every time.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
It could be either and isn't necessarily a problem.
Sloan’s been quoted as saying he gives Williams much more freedom to call plays than he ever did Stockton because Williams wants that freedom and Stockton wanted the plays called from the bench. Some coaches don’t care what their players want or are capable of and just want to control every possession. The only problem with it is my own personal taste in styles of play.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Sounds like personnel
If Sloan’s giving freedom to Williams because he wanted it then that’s a personnel issue.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
One could just as easily say
that without the coach first offering that freedom the particular personnel is a non-issue.
Carlisle on the Bulls will be a true bummer
of a scenario. He’s the classic walk-it-up, call plays from the bench coach on offense.
In terms of personality, you lose some sarcasm going from Skiles to Carlisle. But you also lose overall personality, as the guy’s kind of bland.
With both Detroit and Indiana, he was considered a good defensive coach. As pointed out above, he was actually the coach of the offense under Larry Bird, and I don’t remember that Pacers team being offensively challenged.
If the key qualification is just knowing how to get it done, knowing how to win, then he might be the guy. Here’s hoping that he rediscovers his formula for exciting offense.
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"
Skiles, from today's Milwaukee J-S:
“You have to hold guys accountable. I was by no means a defense player myself but I still knew the schemes to play in a team concept. That’s what you have to do. Some guys are not good individual defenders but you have to protect them and hopefully put them in schemes and concepts that they can still have success. And especially if they’re good offensive players that you can still leave them on the floor. “
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=741840
Sounds like a direct ref to Ben Gordon…also, maybe trying to placate Redd.
well he's right
defense is a team effort and scheme. You can mask the ‘midgets’, especially if your bigs are any good.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
the love letter
Anybody that is going to come to work with enthusiasm, concentrate and play hard will never have a problem with me. I don’t care if they throw the ball in the seats 25 times a game. They’ll be pulled out of the game before they get to 25, of course, but they will never have a problem with me.’
And somewhere, the Noc smiles, remembering that he never had to concentrate as long as he just looked like he was concentrating.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions
It was nice to hear Skiles...
talking basketball this morning. It really made me appreciate the difference between a guy like him and a guy like Boylan. I don’t like to pile-on Boylan – he’s not our problem anymore – but it emphasizes an element that we and this team have missed since late December. Skiles is a real NBA head coach.
It’s too bad things worked out the way they did to require his exit from the franchise.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
I'm with you on that
the minimum Pax can hope for after the Boylan era is a return to competence.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I often thought that a return of Skiles....
...to the Bulls after a month of Boylan would have done wonders. Maybe not Skiles himself, but someone exactly like him, but not him. Or something. I think a “respect” coach would have been an awesome hire mid-season, but now I don’t think it’s as important. I think it’s more about philosophy/ideas/personality than a resume.
Let us prepare for glory! --Michael Redd
in retrospect
maybe they should’ve just hired Norm mid-season :)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 22, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Stomrin' Norman
Now that would have been priceless. I would have needed an extra hard-drive just to TiVo and save all of his press conferences.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
Have you read any of Phil Jackson's books?
If not, add one to your reading list.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you have a grain of salt?
A big one?
If so, I suggest you take it along when reading Phil Jackson’s books.
"Duhon, don't make that garbage-time jumper... Save it for the next game!"
OK
I think it’s more about philosophy/ideas/personality than a resume.
I think you may have mistook my question to tyger as some sort of jab.
by NBA Observer on Apr 22, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions

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