A few weekend thoughts
Man, not only a post on the weekend, but in bullets...
- After reading the game thread comments, I taped the replay of the Bulls/Cavs game from Friday night. Unfortunately ESPN cuts up the replays so I didn't get to see everything, but it was a fun game to watch considering how well Tyrus and Noah played, especially together. Unfortunately it was all in extended garbage time, the kind where Luol Deng attempts 25% of his season total in 3-pointers, so while I'm not surprised they can play well together, I won't proclaim it proves they're the ideal frontcourt. They do need a 3rd man (who starts or sits, as a non-Boylan coach could figure out how to give everyone minutes) in the rotation to take the pressure off those two when they're overwhelmed physically. Drew Gooden's good(en) enough. Nocioni isn't. Aaron Gray neither.
- Speaking of Red Kerr's binkie, he was the subject of some KC Johnson bias this week. I used to really like KC's work at the Trib, and missed it when he took a year off the beat, but the more I read or hear his 'opinions' instead of straight reporting, the less I'm liking that reporting. And it seems that since Sam Smith has left, the Trib's figuring to save money by having one part of KC's job blend into the other. First it was the consecutive days where Tyrus Thomas was referred to as 'who will be shopped in the offseason' (one instance was in a game story), and the implication that it's unknown whether Thomas will work hard in the offseason because he didn't tell KC as much. Contrast that with the glossing over an example of Noah's lack of professionalism while praising his professionalism, and I notice a suspicious lack of recognition concerning Aaron Gray's lapses in that department, considering he had his own blowup with Boylan, and hasn't been keeping weight off during this season.
Do I notice (or imagine) this because I'm fearing the organization's using the media to grease the wheels for a Tyrus exit this offseason? Yes. I'm not sure it's an irrational fear, however.
update: Forgot to throw this in as well: after Thomas' nice game on Friday, both the Trib and Sun-Times gave implicit credit to the Pete Myers motivational toolbox.
- One coach may be unavailable in the Bulls' search this offseason, as the Bucks have hired a GM out of the Pistons front office, and he may hire an ex-Piston head coach, Rick Carlisle. (via MLive.com).
- Why is Chris Duhon playing, at all? After the latest snooze-button fiasco and subsequent 'illness', coupled with knowing he's an unrestricted free agent this coming offseason, he was all-but forgotten for good and didn't play from March 7th to the 26th. But Bulls coaches just can't quit him, as since then in the subsequent 9 games he's averaged 13.5 minutes a game. And this is in the midst of a supposed logjam of guards on the team. As Tyrus is 'who will be shopped', Duhon is often named 'who's not in the Bulls future plans'...although now I have to wonder. And it makes me ill.
- Two instances of strategies I only thought the Bulls bizarrely liked: sitting your best scorer (he'll thrive against second-teamers!), and acting as if there's only 5 fouls allowed a game as an excuse to sit young talent.
- Back to Friday night's game: every once in a while I'm awed that a team with this much talent could win so few games. It truly is a testament to awful coaching (and maddeningly absent GM involvement) to let it happen. There was speculation (courtesy of WSCR's cruddy Bulls sources) that Paxson's tenure is as long as he wants it, yet he may not want it anymore. Not that I believe he will quit this offseason when he has a chance to swiftly right this ship and look like a genius again, but I do think he more-or-less quit on this season when he hired Boylan and gave him free reign. It's a decision that's as awful as any he's made in his tenure.
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I forgot one
Tyrus got his first foul 19 seconds into the game. Somewhere Jack Cobra must've been furiously calculating how quicky he could've fouled out, and with another apparatus totaling the basketball IQ.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the griping about KC
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, what perspective
Since we're in the mood to tell eachother how to react to something (and you're always game), you should ignore reports about Paxson's mental state.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I can't quit you
I go to lengths to add tongue-in-cheekness over my pretty innocuous umbrage over KC's biases, and you can't wait to jump in with your usual 'settle down, man' bullshoot, which is pretty much all you do anymore, and it annoys the hell out of me.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should ignore me too, then
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only mentioned that
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
feel free to contribute your own thoughts
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember the source
by KT on Apr 12, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, they claim they like Pax
I do know they are absolutely blinded by their personal dislike of the attitudes of both Thomas and Noah to which they completely dismiss anything they do on the court.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm out of town
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 'he can stay as long as he wants'
And I don't doubt he's in the dumps seeing his plan fall apart, if only temporarily.
But it was speculation that it was so bad that he'd quit. If he did it'd pretty much make him a quitter, and my total inside info leads me to believe that he isn't the type.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Although I'm of the opinion that he's almost obligated to fix this mess, and if he did leave my main complaint would be not doing so midseason if that's where his heart's been at.
But I'm way too far ahead of myself. This kind of thing is tailor made for Sam Smith to wax poetic on, he's always thought that Pax was too nice and learned for this job.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A good year for buying a new GM
It seems to me when the Knicks job was open there were plenty of rumors about big name guys being interested. Jerry Colangelo and Jerry West both put there names out there and I wouldn't have much problem throwing Pax under the bus for either of those guys.
Colangelo would be a pretty amazing guy to bring in, since he grow up a Chicago kid, left town with $200 in his pocket and became a 4 time Executive of the year and owner of the Phoenix Suns and Arizona Diamondbacks. As I understand it, he was seriously interested in the Knicks, so why wouldn't he be interested in coming back here?
by Sports2 on Apr 12, 2008 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is on Pax's fave five?
And if his lack of appearances on Boers and Bernstein are an indictment of them, does that mean he's been a big Mike North fan for a while (presumably up till the interview this year where North harangued him?
by Sports2 on Apr 12, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mully and Hanley
by KT on Apr 12, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about the state of newspapers
by hscs on Apr 12, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
by hscs on Apr 12, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that what I said?
Then again I have no idea how these journos do their jobs and what dirty tricks they employ. Unlike them I get to let my biases run wild, and have no sources or access to the principals.
Point is, I don't like when KC does it, and thought I should say so. If you feel it's unimportant in the grand scheme of things, I'll only reply that like any blogger, I clearly don't have much going on in my life, and this is the kind of unneccesary fretting that you should come to expect on a basketball blog.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 12, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't want Paxson to leave.
The real deal-breaker for me, though, will be the coach. If they get some craptastic retread, I'm done until they start winning and looking like the well above-average team they looked like a year ago. I'm so stuck on a player development coach (and the current group surely isn't it), that I know I'm setting myself up for a huge disappointment.
by tyger1147 on Apr 12, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are stoking my TT paranoia
Matt, please assure me that the KC's, Boors and Bitchstiens claims that he will be shopped are not any more relalistic than my fantasy that he will someday be named defensive player of the year after leading the Bulls to the finals.
OK, already. I'll put down the bong and try to get a grip on reality, but if he goes, my lifetime love affair with the Bulls is over, unless of course, if Aaron Gray goes on a massive conditioning and strength program over the summer and becomes a reincarnation of Shaq daddy. Ok, this time I promise to put it down after just one more puff.
by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 12, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"To the finals"
by cubbybear on Apr 12, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still mad
by cubbybear on Apr 12, 2008 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brokeback Mounting Losses
I actually can't wait to see how the 96 minutes per game for the 4 and 5 spots are divided between Noah, Thomas and Gooden next year.
I guess the last thing we need is a brute to be the immovable object to the irresistible force that is D. Howard.
Sorry, I meant the 'last remaining thing that we still need'... I guess it's a Freudian slip at this point...
by bullhockey on Apr 12, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After the Miami and Orlando games I'm thinking
by chgobr on Apr 12, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The 08' Bulls...The Year of the Streaks!
Also in the running for the 08' Bulls slogan...
"We'll give you 3 quarters of sweat!"
by RogersPark Kris on Apr 12, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
streaks?
by hscs on Apr 12, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Streaky
by cubbybear on Apr 12, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was being sarcastic
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This blog
Can't wait until the end of the Boylan era.
by cubbybear on Apr 12, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, in the case of
by alec on Apr 12, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
::sniff:: Hi, my name's bullhockey, and, uh...
by bullhockey on Apr 13, 2008 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hiiiii bullhockey.
Me: I'm daaaaaaaBulls, and I'm a Bulls fan.
Group:Hiiiiiii, daaaaaaaBulls.
Me: I've thought about not caring anymore. You know, just quitting cold turkey.
Group:We've all been there, daaaaaaaBulls. Remember the Ron Mercer signing? The hope of a Fizer-Brand-Bagaric frontcourt?
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by cubbybear on Apr 14, 2008 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure Boylan won't be back?
by armstrong2389 on Apr 12, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Based on What Reinsdork said in today's
He has to be a communicator,someone who could inspire his players and will be able to earn their respect.
Talk about a perfect match. Boylan fits this criteria like O J's glove. I know the boss is big on loyalty, so lets keep our fingers crossed. As was pointed out earlier, who better to develop Noah and Thomas than the Bulbous one.
by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 13, 2008 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Coach don't fit
by cubbybear on Apr 14, 2008 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and NJ is beating Milwaukee
by bullshooter on Apr 12, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC & editorializing
I don't know about you guys, but I find beat writers mostly pretty dull. For those of you who regularly watch the games & press conferences afterwards, how much do you really learn from the beat stories the next day? I rarely gleaned much from KC's beat pieces, but I always read Sam's stuff.
Not to bash KC--I know this is how beat writers tend to be. Bob Sakamoto wasn't any more interesting when he covered the Bulls beat decades ago. Even Sam, when he was their beat reporter, was pretty boring back then.
by T Maple on Apr 12, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Full Court Press
by NormVanBeer on Apr 12, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat writing is supposed to be boring.
by snley on Apr 14, 2008 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat writing doesn't sell
by Sports2 on Apr 14, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the art of newswriting
by snley on Apr 14, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that way of thinking
by bullshooter on Apr 14, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys say that...
- An outpouring of love for the departed Sam Smith who was primarily an opinion writer.
- A general outpouring of hate for KC Johnson and the other Bulls beat writers who routinely say very little.
So, "just the facts" is pretty much a non-starter. If you take this literally, then there's not a lot to beat reporting at all and there's also very little value added. If you just want the facts, you'd be better off having a guy part time and simply relying on things like AP reports and box scores. That'd be just the facts.
To get at anything actually interesting, you have to play the opinion game and dig into things people (the team, who controls your access) doesn't want you digging into.
This is, by the way, a much more difficult problem to overcome than most general investigative journalists face. In general situations you might have an investigative target who you can afford to upset because once you're done investigating you simply move on to another topic. Beat reporters, are working the same beat, so if they burn bridges they're screwed.
Thus, the only alternative for getting news out there at all is generally to be vague and opinionated sounding.
by Sports2 on Apr 14, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny you say that, as the Ombudswoman
Either way, this goes beyond what's popular or selling papers. When reporting the news, a journalist's first obligation is to presenting the facts.
by snley on Apr 15, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, ESPN
Notice the ESPN version has all sorts of cool factual content not found in the Trib version - play by plays, shot charts, photos, conversation logs. And a game recap with postgame quotes.
So of course ESPN is going to get the majority of its site views from factual content. It has a tremendous advantage in doing so vs. a competitor like the Chicago Tribune.
The only sort of journalistic advantage the Trib can bring to bear is that it might know more about Chicago teams than ESPN does. In the old days, reading the trib's box scores and a good recap in the paper the next day was the best you could do.
But now that information is available instantaneously from everywhere. And ESPN can do that sort of thing way better than the Trib can hope to do.
Which gets back to the point. If the Trib is going to make money covering the Bulls, it needs to provide something of value in order to do it, right? Something people are willing to pay for. And people aren't, and shouldn't be willing to simply pay for box scores and recaps when they can get them (in better form, no less) elsewhere for free.
So focusing on just the facts is going to be a road to bankruptcy. I'm not arguing against collecting the facts first, but for a newspaper like the Trib that can't be the end-all and be-all of the news because their competitors provide that sort of news much better than they can hope to.
The Trib's only advantage is they can get guys who are close to the situation who have a lot of experience interpreting what's going on. But again, beat writers have to be careful with what and how they say things to maintain their contacts. Still, that's the way to go. The Trib, in that sense, would probably have been better off keeping Sam Smith and laying off KC Johnson. Smith's contacts, insights, and writing were exactly the sort of things that gave people a reason to buy the Trib. KC's "straight reporting" is only a marginal difference from what you get by reading ESPN or Yahoo.
by Sports2 on Apr 15, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying there isn't room for opinion in
by snley on Apr 15, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A player's personality?
We both know very well that a short feature, or even a series of them has a very wide universe of facts (and others' opinions) to chose from and a very limited space in which to convey them.
Do you convey Tyrus Thomas signing kids' autographs before a game, or do you convey him telling an NBA executive to carry his bags to the hotel before the draft?
There's no avoiding this problem, although it's a rare occasion it's quite as obvious as this example. But obvious or not it's impossible to convey a limited set of information (amongst a larger set) without also conveying your opinion of which information is important.
To give you another example, remember back to last year when KC reported on Tyrus' impolitic comments about the dunk contest. On the radio I remember listening to KC go through how he gave Thomas multiple "chances" to "clarify" what he was saying. Basically he was saying "do you really want to be on record as saying this" and giving the guy an out. Tyrus didn't take it, which in a funny sort of way is good on Tyrus. He wasn't gonna play that game.
But it destroys the idea that the journalist is just there to report the facts. If he's objective, is he really going to sit there and try to hold the guy's hand? And if he is, doesn't he have an obligation to report that as well?
It gives the sense that the beat writers hear and see all kinds of stuff that they just don't report on for one reason or another. They want to protect their positions, which is understandable. But it's a pretty obvious limit to "factual reporting too". The basic model is to select the most important facts, but the most important facts at that level are a matter of opinion and interpretation.
I think everyone would be better off being honest about it instead of pretending to be unbiased, when, in reality, we aren't. And don't get me wrong, I want the most truth coming out possible, but I think it's usually the output to the process, not the input. We read accounts of facts from different perspectives and create a perspective of our own.
by Sports2 on Apr 15, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's the problem with news today
by bullshooter on Apr 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not following
It seems to me that you'd actually prefer less facts , which would, in turn, make it easier to make up your own mind.
I mean, 20 (or 30 or 40) years ago, you could look at the Trib and get more or less the same stuff you get today. Do you think the beat guys were uncovering a lot more facts or getting out a lot more info then that they weren't now?
Of course they weren't. They had the same incentives to stay on everyone's good side that they have now, but even stronger because there was less competition and there were fewer alternative sources. 30 years ago, if you were a beat guy and you said something true but unflattering about your team, it could very well get you fired immediately. Stuff you'd want to know about was simply not printed all the time.
Not that today's system is perfect, but I think the idea it used to be better is a myth. You have guys in the system complain because they have to change, but the reality is that the amount of news out there is better for consumers like us.
Beyond that, what's with the complaining about having to actually read a couple different sources? ESPN is freaking free and a click away. So is the Trib, Sun-Times, Daily Herald, etc. I get to read them all, and Blog a Bull and Hoopshype when I sit here having a cup of coffee in the morning instead of just getting one newspaper like I did when I was a kid. For the non-lazy, that's a huge improvement :)
by Sports2 on Apr 15, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe they were
by bullshooter on Apr 16, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to KC's latest article in the trib,
Interestingly, this article is neutral-to-positive on Tyrus and Joakim - KC at least includes a quote from Tyrus about wanting to play with Joakim his whole career. And not a word about 'who will be shopped this summer'!
by wjb1492 on Apr 12, 2008 10:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good,
by armstrong2389 on Apr 12, 2008 11:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we keep him for sure
by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 13, 2008 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
word
KC is just an intern who has been promoted do to the media's shift away from journalsim... Good for him i guess, but his articles seem to lack insight and i dunno if the players want to talk to him either.
Captain Kirk, Du, and Noc will all be back next year. all 3 are terrible NBA players. maybe good olympic basketball players if nba players couldnt play, which i think is their appeal to Pax... which sux. Pax Sux. but i wouldnt give up that job.
The guard rotation is whack and only gonna get whacker if we dont make a trade. Hinrich is garbage. Gordon is the best player on the Bulls (Noah is second). Hughes can ball and i can see him as an integral part of a championship run, he is very expensive for what i see as a 3rd guard, but maybe that works with Gordon being glued to the bench and signed as an rfa for 1 more year. Draft the best guard possible (hopeful a pg Rose/Bayless/Budinger/Augustine) and trade hinrich.
Firing Skiles was a bad idea. Boylan is not good. Making the playoffs in the east is not hard. I think Skiles would have righted the ship. I'm all for tanking the season, but they couldnt even do that right and now we're lookin at the 9th pick which gives pax too many options to f the pick up like using it on a big or e. gordon or westbrook.
the bulls are in need of a dynamic player, i'm talking 1 frickin allstar please! (shoulda been garnett). and have several bad contracts for bad players. Honestly what frustrates me is that the Bulls have the pieces to make some moves this offseason and become highly competitive, but this has been the case for awhile and i'm not seeing any light at the end of the tunnel.
by Zac23 on Apr 13, 2008 5:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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