The Corpse to Orlando?

by chgobr on Feb 18, 2008 9:30 AM CST

Johnny Ludden and Adrian Wojnarowski report

* The Orlando Magic have continued to shop for frontline help with Pat Garrity's expiring contract as bait.

The Corpse for Garrity, Reddick, Battie, and Maurice Evans is a proposal that works on multiple levels. Orlando is giving up players stuck on the bench. Reddick is unhappy. The Bulls save, I believe around $16 mil and bury the Corpse. Orlando salaries are from HoopsHype. The Corpse could actually help Orlando's defense. We would have to buy out Jameson, Battie, Garrity and Evans to have a roster spot for Battie and Reddick. Reddick can be gone after this year or we could buy him out or trade him. He has a team option for next year.

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Sign me up on this one.

Orlando could use the short term help so that Dwight Howard doesn't get burned out, plus they have plenty of offensive firepower to compensate for Wallace.

This would also leave the Bulls with plenty of cap space to resign both Deng and Gordon if they so choose to.

by RogersPark Kris on Feb 18, 2008 9:40 AM CST 0 recs

Dude, what the hell

Don't put a title like that unless it's 100% factual. Shit man, that's really not cool

"Jerome James PER.. is 46.68... Do that trade now! Screw Horford, we don't need him. Jerome is a monster!!!!!!!!!" - BNeL21

by NittanyBull on Feb 18, 2008 9:47 AM CST 0 recs

lol

I know! I got all excited too. This trade season has been so stressful. After all these crazy trades (Lakers and Suns) I thought for a second we got lucky as well.

by cranscape on Feb 18, 2008 10:25 AM CST up 0 recs

I apologize for getting hopes up that this was

a done deal. This is clearly my wishful thinking. I added the question mark to avoid a let-down. Thanks!

by chgobr on Feb 18, 2008 11:04 AM CST up 0 recs

a moratorium on "The Corpse"

It's officially old, morbid, not clever, crass, etc. Now feel guilty.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 18, 2008 9:50 AM CST 0 recs

Ben

He's a good human being, and I'd be happy to drink a beer with the guy. And I agree that "the corpse" is kind of stupid, especially to use in the title of a diary (where even casual visitors to the site will see it).

But the fact is, Ben has really, really hurt the team that we all root for. it's not just that he's playing poorly, it's that he has some attitude that he "deserves" to be a big-minute starter over talented young guys, and he's getting $15 mil a year to do it.

by Bayern Munich on Feb 18, 2008 1:16 PM CST up 0 recs

yup

Just annoyed with the nickname. I never liked the idea of signing Wallace in the first place, but it wasn't that bad of a deal last season. He's played terribly this season.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Feb 18, 2008 2:30 PM CST up 0 recs

3.8M isn't much of a starting point for Wallace

Plus, Evans can't be traded in a package deal as he's already been traded once this season. He can only be dealt 1 for 1.

by snley on Feb 18, 2008 10:15 AM CST 0 recs

My understanding is that he cannot

be traded back to the team that traded him.

by chgobr on Feb 18, 2008 11:05 AM CST up 0 recs

Joe Smith?

Yes, the Magic have wanted frontcourt help all year, but let's be realistic. How does Wallace mesh with Dwight Howard? Poorly, that's how.

How much does Wallace cost? A lot!

How good is he? Not very.

Still, the Magic are looking for some veteran help up front. Perhaps a deal with could be worked out. With his full-featured offensive game, he'd work out pretty nicely with Howard. If I were the Bulls, I wouldn't be stingy with him.

So how about the Bulls trade Smith for Garrity, Reddick and the rights to Fran Vasquez?

I'm not exactly a big fan of Reddick, but that frees up frontcourt time for Thomas and Noah while giving us a look at Reddick, which is at least something to do while our guards are riddled with injuries. It saves us a moderate amount of money next year and turns an old player into young ones.

Vasquez... don't know if he'll ever come over, but it doesn't seem he'll ever play for the Magic, and there's little harm in having his rights.

by Sports2 on Feb 18, 2008 10:31 AM CST 0 recs

Getting rid of the rest

I agree with what Matt outlined a few weeks ago. If the Bulls could move Wallace in the trade proposed in this thread, the following two unsexy but (I think) plausible moves could help to clean house. Would need to waive some players, I think. Thoughts?
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1. Riles gets grit

Chicago gets: Jason Williams and Joel Anthony. Miami gets: Andres Nocioni and Chris Duhon

Rationale: Miami would like to get something for its expiring contracts. In Noc, they get a scrap-tastic player who gives Riles some flexibility depending on what he decides to do with Marion next season. Duhon gives them a replacement PG.

Bulls get rid of two players who are eating up playing. Whit EBoy can ride pine the rest of the season.
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2. Nellie gets the right former Warrior this time

Chicago gets: Mickael Pietrus, Kelenna Azubuike and Brandan Wright. Golden State gets: Joe Smith

Rationale: GS gets some value from Pietrus's expiring contract (who badly wants out), adding versatility to its frontcourt. It makes sense for the Warriors to make a push now so they can decide what to do with Baron Davis next season. The Bulls get a prospect in Brandan Wright (who has gotten 12 minutes total in the last 5 games) and a chance to audition some SGs (I'm worried about negotiations with Ben Gordon this summer).

by paxson43 on Feb 18, 2008 10:48 AM CST 0 recs

That GS Deal wouldn't happen

I'd do it, but I can't see Golden State giving up Azubuike and Wright for Joe Smith. Wright's not getting PT but Nellie said he didn't expect much from him this year, plus this is less than a year after they moved Jason Richardson for him. Who knows though anymore?

by khaledelamin on Feb 18, 2008 1:14 PM CST 0 recs

Good point

Maybe if Paxson pitched it this way: "LMA for Kalenna and Brandan."

by paxson43 on Feb 18, 2008 2:01 PM CST up 0 recs

Chad Ford

Thinks maybe NY?

Chicago Bulls

"What are the Bulls doing? That's one of the questions heard most these days. The team's a mess, and no one knows what their strategy is.

It's no secret that Ben Wallace is available, less than two years after Chicago made him their big catch of 2006. But unless the Bulls are willing to attach Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas or Joakim Noah to a Wallace trade, it looks unlikely that they'll be able to move him.

The Knicks have shown significant interest in acquiring Wallace, but the Bulls can't be excited about bringing in Quentin Richardson and Malik Rose -- those guys aren't going to put the Bulls over the top."

by Option27 on Feb 18, 2008 1:49 PM CST 0 recs

I so hate the "over the top" metaphor

Anyone who expects us to be put over the top in a deal for any player is going to be waiting a long time. We're more than one move away from winning unless the Spurs are suddenly willing to trade us Tim Duncan for Wallace and Aaron Gray. Even then I'd have my doubts.

but still, Rose and Q for Wallace saves the Bulls $3.5M and if ever there was an "addition by subtraction" move for a team, this is it.

by Sports2 on Feb 18, 2008 2:03 PM CST up 0 recs