Where is the bread and butter?

Its true, prior to the season i really thought Thomas would benefit the most out of Rose…kinda like Chandler and Paul..obv not as seasoned but the same concept should be reasonable to believe since Thomas can jump outta the roof and Rose can make plays..yet i havent seen much

this is from last nights game:

Rose, who had 18 points and nine assists along with five turnovers in 43 minutes, thought he was hit on the play.

“A little bump, but I can’t complain about it. They didn’t call it. No excuses from me,” Rose said. “That’s going to be with any team now, they’re just going to wait for me, knowing I’m a driver. I’ve got to get used to it.”

This will prob force rose to make more passes outta the drive or get his teamates involved a bit more so that Rose has more than one way to hurt the opponent…keep the defense on their toes…it allows rose to pass it up or if the d is playin the the kick out rose can take it to the hoop…regardless its still early, and by mid season im sure we will be season a much more strategic attack

was always more experienced than Tyrus…..he was given all the time on the court to learn through mistakes pre Skiles and looked like his confidence was just lost.

Tyrus looks insanely confident, but just hasn’t learned the new offense enough.

I don’t understand why the Bulls won’t say “we’re going to rebuild and play our young guys”….that puts pressure on VDN and crew to play more veterans who aren’t in our long term plans, rather than have the others learn through their mistakes.

Rose’s passing will be fine, but right now he can’t pass to Tyrus often because Tyrus is making dumb mistakes with the passes, he tries to pass to Joakim, but Joakim can’t get the ball into the basket because he’s not strong enough….

And Drew like you said is spending too much time at the top of the key or jump shooting.

At least Tyson understood how to play hard. Tyson didn’t play alot under Skiles for two reasons: Skiles didn’t like him, and he was always in foul trouble. Thomas doesn’t play alot because he follows every good play/game with a boneheaded one. I believe it mainly comes down to motovation. We may have to accept the fact that Thomas is the second coming of Stromile Swift. Extremely talented but not able to put it together due to space inbetween his ears.

in the Philly re-match at the UC that went to OT: In the 2nd half Tyrus slowly rolled off s/r in the lane with his eyes on his footwear. Remember? He was open but didn’t get the pass ‘cause he wasn’t looking.

Rose should’ve hit him in the head with the ball. Just like Magic Johnson said you do.

We are not using the talent on this team. That being said Tyrus seems so talented and so stupid. In the Philly, UC double-overtime game he was effective in the 4th period and then cost them the game in overtime. You are correct that Tyrus should be a perfect fit with Rose. Vinny may not be using him correctly but I am getting tired of his boneheaded plays.

OK. Tyrus puts back a Rose blocked shot for a dunk. Awesome.

But watch that video again. Look at Tyrus. What in the heck is he doing? He just sits there. The game was closing out so maybe that was where he was supposed to be. He crashed when it was the right time. But time and time again he just sits out there around the top of the circle loafing.

Record a game. Watch it through one time to get the whole game. Then watch the game again and only watch Tyrus. I know he can get better, but he has so many “what the hell is he doing” moments it’s very easy to get down on his potential. Most of it is just not being aware of where he should go.

Rose wants to pass. But he wants to pass to open space where the receiver SHOULD BE. This takes time. Paul and Chandler have this because Paul knows where he wants to pass it and Chandler knows how he has to get there to receive that pass.

Maybe Rose and Thomas can watch football passing drills. You never throw to the stationary open man. You throw to the open space where the moving receiver is heading towards. It’s all timing.

the defenders have to honor his passing skills much more, because his teammates can hit open jumpers, whether it’s off the pick-and-roll (West) or the draw and dish (Peja). But it starts with the pick-and-roll. This means that when help defenders go to the shooters, CP can either penetrate or toss the ’oop to Chandler.

For Rose, the defenders don’t have to honor his passing skills as much in the half-court set, because the Bulls haven’t proven able to score on pick-and-rolls. This means that help defenders can simply shut down the lane to prevent Rose’s penetration, or else stay home on their offensive player. Rose therefore doesn’t freeze the defense like Paul does, meaning less cuts to the basket for Tyrus, and therefore less alley-oops.

It seems like the first building block would be an effective pick-and-roll, and then from there the Bulls should be able to incorporate the back door cut / alley-oop by Tyrus.