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Open Game Thread #32: Bulls vs Orlando Magic

Orlando Magic at Chicago Bulls, Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM CST


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given the closeness of the first matchup and the bulls record at home this is a very winnable game.

by robinhood on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

:::::proceeds to kick the wood. pause

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gu Bulls!

Give me a win… please!!!

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by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

thabo starts

love the starting lineup, keep noc out as long as possible..see how gray does vs howard or it could be noah early

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Try Justin.tv

Looks like there are a few links from which to choose.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

gray

gray needs to foul like that if he gets beat by howard..make him beat us at the line

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Jump shots

yum

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dear Thabo,

Make Hedo Turkoglu post up our guards.

Sincerely,

The Fans

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus falls asleep

More braindead examples from Tyrus 3 minutes into the game.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

FINISH YOUR DRINK

bulls score after a vinny TO

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WOW

what a play by VDN!

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rose, BG, Thabo, TT and Noah

wow

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by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hughes and noc just checked in

how badly did that lineup get outscored?

by robinhood on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Lots of fire

from the bulls right now.

But not really.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hes probably feeling too selfish...

he had already taken 3..rose is weird like that sometimes, and he rarely takes that shot unless a team continually leaves him open from there

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

So is this what you wanted?

Noc and Hughes instead?

Dont understand why people would complain about what we had out there, we dont have a good team.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thomas has been awful so far

He has completely forgotten he was guarding yet another camping perimeter player in Rashard Lewis.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon is cold :(

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by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this is just ugly

they are way too talented and diverse for us

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit this is gawful

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this is what happens..

when bg is cold, and theres a big guy/game plan designed to stop rose’s penetration…

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

2009-2010 season preview!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

scary...

better get boozer and kaman!

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Umm, jumpball?

Nice blown call refs.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

nocioni is absolutely clueless on D…i cant handle it anymore, my eyes have to watch him because of how bad he is and it pisses me off every single game

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Doubling Dwight Howard is bad defense

Make him drop 40 on you. He can’t do it.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

agree

they have too many weapons to leave wide open….howard is not a 40 point scorer..give him his 30 and see if we can outscore them

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Really

We have to stop doubling Howard. Make him play a magical post game. He’s not going to do it. His post moves are weak beyond dunking. Their offense crumbles when Howard has to hold the ball and make things happen alone.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wtf is hapening?

Are they already thinking in 2009?

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by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, what a difference in playing styles

Orlando actually moving the ball around. Lots of patience. THAT*S how you play basketball! Us, one-on-one. first shot we can take.

This is going to be ugly

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

SVG is a darned fine coach

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It would seem that way

Screwed out of Miami by Riles…

He’s in a pretty good situaton now, though

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

amen

and unfortunately…we dont have the players to do that! outside of rose and sometimes gordon….

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We can still play like that

Patience and playing actual basketball with screens and movement does not depend on the level of talent. Although it naturally makes it a bit easier…

We should still be better. This comes down to the coach(es).

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

SVG vs VDN

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Woke up late

hungover…looked on online, saw this..freaked out, turned on WGN..and

TODAY IS FRIKIN AWESOME

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

f you Noc

really.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

trade him now

i cant watch another game with him in there

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's guarding Hedo 40 feet from the rim

This is terrible defense. Coaches? Silent.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We have men with titles

and suits. Coaches? I’m checking again.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Del harris

I blame all of VDN’s discrepancies on him

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For you Noc?

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he's really stupid

He got lucky on that call. Could been worst

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by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thabo

this is when thabo is at his best, not trying to do too much…just makes the right pass, makes the right cut…outside a bad jumper early ive loved the way he has played

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Howard is muscling 3 bulls to get boards

ON OFFENSE. Shoot me.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Vinatge shaq

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

maybe he does have some worth…he is about to get destroyed by howard, im kinda excited about this now

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i like hard fouls by Noc...

honestly that is the way more people should play. I am so sick of seeing these pussy fouls turn into And 1’s.

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

theres a difference

between hard fouls and grabbing someone by the back of the jersey and around the shoulder and throwing him down as hard as you can…

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gortat checks in

Gortat gets OREB. Gortat scores.

Stab me.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol @ noah's shuffle

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ask and you shall recieve

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOVE IT!!

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

smh @ that layup

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

-18, 10 minutes remaining 2nd, at home

Is this not a firing offense?

This is pathetic.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Lol, I wanted him fired during pre-season...

A bit premature, perhaps.

It turns out you should always go with ur gut ;)

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sooo, how much do we lose by tonite?

20-30-40?

I’d say somewhere between 30 and 40.

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

15+

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Dec 31, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

REBOUND!!!

I need to get off this channel

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

coaching

when are we gonna be able to stop teams from posting up our smalls….the hawks did it with no adjustment, orlando did it last game obviously no adjustment with hedo on bg AGAIN

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

new Bud light commercial >>>>>>>

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Orlando should trade for shaq

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Is that Redick in the game?

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thomas back on Lewis

Here comes the three parade.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'll one-up both of you

I missed the game and I’m going to read this entire thread. On New Year’s Eve. Just to see if there’s any positives. I need a life.

by California Al on Dec 31, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Vinny has to get fired tonight.

This is no joke.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fire Del

he’s bad voodoo

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm more shocked

that there isn’t a better head amon Del Harris and Bernie!? :O

THese guys have HOW much exp!!??

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

smh @

Del’s experience with the lakers

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

in noc mind

every contested shot is a wide open jumper and hes never committed a foul…unreal

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Other than Howard, is Orlando really that much more talented than we are?

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm saying

It’s lack of effort on the defensive end. That’s coaching.

Why resort to name calling?
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because I wish to insult you personally
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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

THey play a different sport.

What they’re doing is called basketball

What we’re doing: ?

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 1:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Would seem like it

Or in my case: Just wasting alot of Gdamn time

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, at least the schedule gets easier

Oh wait, they play at Cleveland next, never mind.

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 1:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol @ the kid eating a apple

rose can learn from him

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 1:54 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Why is Gray in?

Put Noah back in VDN. Fuck!!!

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 1:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This is the type of game where Noah should play 40 minutes

Leave him on the court, and run his ass into shape. At least you don’t have to worry about it affecting the outcome of the game here.

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

we need to bring in....

thibodeaux as our head coach and marc jackson as our lead assistant and derrick rose’s mentor

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What a fucked-up organization

The GM has a job for life not because he’s any kind of genius, but because he hit a game winning shot in an NBA Finals game 15 years ago. There’s no fucking accountability here, and there won’t be as long as the UC is full every night.

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 2:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You think a great depression could get Pax canned?

Maybe a World War or two?

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

FIRE VDN. defense like this is inexcusable

by blademan88 on Dec 31, 2008 2:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

dwights just playing around now :(

by blademan88 on Dec 31, 2008 2:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hah

so close there noah

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

-25

It’s a game finally.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Even JJ Redick scores against us

This is awfull. Fuck. What a way to finish the year…

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

how long is VDN’s contract?

by blademan88 on Dec 31, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

VDN's after the game speech

“Well you know we had some tough match-ups tonight and we really could have used Deng and Gooden. No excuses though we didn’t play well.”

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

While I agree with the firing of Pax

and even Vinny to some degree…who should they replace them with? Brian Colangelo’s run in Toronto is about done, he could fill Pax’s spot. I’m not really up on GM’s and who’s out there….anyone know?

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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

not too sure about GM, but there is a ton of good coaches out there currently: avery johnson, van gundy, etc

by blademan88 on Dec 31, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

van gundy

would be great, bring us some toughness and an ACTUAL coach. wow that would be nice

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jalen Rose for GM?

i’m sure he would be down to give up his ESPN fastbreak job…

let’s stick to former players

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

J.J. Redick is still in the league?

I thought he was busy being Dick Vitale’s man-slave.

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 2:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Howard get his double-double before the half yet?

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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

13 and 10

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right

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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Howard: 11 rebounds. The Bulls: 15

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by Big D on Dec 31, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I should have put in some bets

I know my team. Why not make some side cash on their defeats?

I’ll even place my winnings in the Fire PaxVin trust.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noah better show me sum

He’s getting abused and looks scared in a few plays

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I can't help it

I’m taping the game but can’t avoid checking in on the thread.

now do you see what I mean about the 5th seed?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did the Magic just trade JJ during a game? We should take note.

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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

um, really?

I’m not watching, any truth to this?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Howard outrebounds 4 Bulls

ON FING OFFENSE AGAIN.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

logs off

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by Belize on Dec 31, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh?!

He’s having a off night. Against the Nets nobody said that…

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate you say 'dat' intead of 'that'

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That happens

Because everyone is sucking. So, he’s trying to do something by himself. That’s no excuse, but that’s what is happening

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

better than Michael Ruffin

considering Ruffin has been injured with a sprained ankle since pre-season. Yes, a 2 month sprained ankle.

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

small ball wow.. come and watch lot's of scoring

against us… Even drop Noriega can get 50 on this team. Gingus Khan just dunked over Noah. I am doing something else instead of wasting time watching this team. What a joke!!

by Fastbreak on Dec 31, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to hear Van Lier at the half

if WGN could only host him.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the Real Estate market can tank some more forcing the Chairman

to sell the team to the Colangelos.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

or to sell the team to anyone

the problem is — the tanking real estate market just makes it even more likely that he’s going to run the team like a penny pinching jerk and churn out another huge profit.

by fundamentallysound on Dec 31, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Overflow thread?

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it's not even at 200

unless it’s for good mojo, in which case….meh, not worth it :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lets not even make an overflow thread

it wont be worth it…at all and i sense less posts the 2nd half. This is a game people actually turn off.

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 2:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ive watched every game

and some really bad ones….and im really considering now watching the 2nd half

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I heard them talking about excecuting some defensive schemes before the game

But their making it look like there is no way to really counter anything the Magic are doing.

by Camry on Dec 31, 2008 2:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What do you think VDN is doing in the locker room

right now? I’m gonna go with sitting @ his desk face in hands thinking to himself “Why did I take this job?”

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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Shaving his head before the speech

fingers crossed

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy bejesus.

We bad.

I’m outta here. Happy New Year, all.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Dec 31, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I just turned the game on

At least tell me there was a play where Derrick Rose made the crowd go “Ah!”

by Option27 on Dec 31, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He had an and 1 on some guy

There was an ah but sulking since we didn’t really get better from there

by Camry on Dec 31, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Doug Thonus has been predicting that this Bulls team

would win around 47 games. That is just ridiculous to me. When this team won 49 games a few years back we were in basically every game we played and you always felt as if we had a chance to win. This team is not even close to that good. There’s not one game on the schedule that can be considered a gimme. They could absolutely lose to a team like the Thunder. This team is lost.

by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 2:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I do think the talent is there to win in the upper 40s

but I agree that Doug was always off-base when he was using this year as any type of predictor. He was merely looking at wins and losses in relation to schedule strength, and not how close the games were, or how bad the team looked.

If you squeak out a win against the Clippers, you’re good enough to get blown out by Orlando.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? Upper 40's with that front court?

It kinda feels like 40 would be the ceiling for this team. Anything above 45 usually means a better than good team. All we have is a great backcourt and I don’t think that will get us there.

by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 31, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude ..

were are you getting all of this “talent from”, we have no real talent outside of our guards. We can’t compete with guards alone.

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 31, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We have no defense to get to 47 wins

I thought we could get to 44, but that was when I thought we’d at least put in a consistent defensive effort. No chance we’re doing that now. 35 wins looks like a better target.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron get your fat ass out of the lane

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone explain to me what is the point of playing Gray?

He has 4 fouls and 0 points. Besides, he’s slepping out there…

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Match ups....it's all about match ups

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He should be boxing out Howard

by shoving his fat ass into Howard’s legs. You can box out Howard well and he’ll foul to get around you.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Should be, but isn't

So, wth did he start the second half in front of Noah?

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did we just give up?

BG, Rose, Thomas all check out.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why 'develop' young players and

force them to play back into the game when you can sit them and ‘showcase’ the likes of Noce, Larry & Thabo?

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

aside from Noah

our bigs don’t look like they came to play …

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 31, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

VDN just pretty much pulled a Tim Floyd.

Takin em all out

by Option27 on Dec 31, 2008 2:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i throw up a little in my mouth...

everytime Stacey calls Hughes “Big Shot Larry”

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 2:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds cool on the Spanish feed

Disparo Grande Larry!

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by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

-25

It’s a game. Finally.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 2:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe all TT and Thabo need to do

to get more playing time is attend the Andres Nocioni School of jersey pulling and flopping?

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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 31, 2008 2:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hughes

trade trade trade, maybe somebody will fall for him after this little run

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Do you think

VDN mentioned before the game that we should take it at Howard strong to try and get him in foul trouble early? I mean we knew he would dominate us why not try to take him out of the game as much as possible?

by i_like_turtles on Dec 31, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

with who?

who on the bulls can take it strong against Howard? Nobody, aside from maybe Drew…

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 31, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

everyone dominates when theyre talking on a message board..i bet you both suck!

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'll play

i got the blazers…wont be for a while though, friend me at boorad7

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh

I got the PS3

I’m looking for some playstation love out there

Anyone else got 2K9 for PS3?

by Option27 on Dec 31, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My gamertag's IPrevengeI

I’ll crush you.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 1, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

well you probably just give it to rose every play so it doesn’t matter who else you got out there..i think i’ll be alright

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah you got me

not hatin, jus sayin everyone is always the best when theyre bragging on a message board

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont usually play online its my roommates game, but i’ll make an exception for you

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ok

you probably just give it to rose every play so it doesn’t really matter who else you have out there…i’ll be alright

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been through 2 years and have had a ton of trades

My starting 5 is Rose, Parker, Kapono, Bosh, and Dwight

by gobulls1124 on Dec 31, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah right

it’s almost impossible to win in that game without a post player. Much like real life.

by gobulls1124 on Dec 31, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

you playing on pro?

by gobulls1124 on Dec 31, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

too bad you dont have 360 so we wont figure it out..you got nhl09 for ps3? that game is hot

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When I play on HoF,

Noah gets 20/10 games.
:P

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 1, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

matchup zone

this is the worst matchup zone i have ever seen

by BooRad16 on Dec 31, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm telling you, man

use real words. I’m serious.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

d00d,

wat u b talkn bout? we gon wath sum b-bal

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 1, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't Yahoo! Sports,

where most of the comments look like they are posted by pre-teens.

by Granny Waiters on Jan 1, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did u see SVG

actually TALK to his team during a time-out!!

You’re allowed to do that??

Someone tell VDN!!

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I never notice that ..

but I’ve always seen him conferring with his coaches.

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 31, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems to me he always steps away from

the bench with his arms folded and talks to his ass.

Is it an organizational thing. Nameless used to do that too…

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I don’t watch enough to know for sure, but my perception is that good coaches generally make good use of their timeouts. They hit the ground running, and tell the players what they want to tell them.

Bad coaches call the timeout and then spend a minute thinking and then talk to their team. Or don’t talk to them at all.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Dec 31, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, and there is SO much

that needs to be told! I’mjust flabbergasted, jawdropped and awestruck that our “coaches” don’t talk to the players during the TO’s. It’s just extremely basic. I’ve played for some 20 years and coached for four season on youth-level. I always talked to (yelled at) the players during the TO’s! I don’t understand it on any level.

Ok, so this guy has no coaching exp, but COME ON! And he has asses, as well!

I’m :O

by BAB-Bass on Dec 31, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's all to me

Happy New Year to all you guys

by bull83 on Dec 31, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noc will finish high assist man?

then Paxs will say… I’m keeping Noc to give him minutes also as 3rd pg.

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 31, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

Double teaming Gortat without the ball.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Barring a good trade

I wonder if this VDN Bulls team is a .500 club by season end? Currently it looks like we might be the same as last year give or take a few games.

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 31, 2008 3:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

they're defiantly not a .500 team

we can’t beat decent/good teams and struggle against bad teams

by gobulls1124 on Dec 31, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we get a real coach?

The sky is the limit!

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Jan 1, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would take a real interior defense

over better coaching.

Noah and TT still have promise, but neither is big enough to bang inside.

by Granny Waiters on Jan 1, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

YAFO

Yet Another Firing Offense

I’m putting that one up on the big board.

12/31: Fire Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Dec 31, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ty thomas

has anyone in a bulls jersey ever played less dedicated than tyrus in the last few minutes of that game? he was being guarded by jj redick and wouldn’t even try and post up. atleast he checked into the game, can’t really ask for more when you’re down by 25.

by oakdale on Dec 31, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

(didn't watch the game)

but it’s garbage time. Shame on Vinny for having Tyrus in anyway.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they're not giving him the ball

why should he have any “dedication”

by gobulls1124 on Dec 31, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you fucking kidding?

Sometimes I imagine this is how Tyrus probably thinks too. Instead of seeing an opportunity, he sees everything as an insult – a reason to pout, bitch, and half-ass it.

Which is why he routinely gets his ass kicked. He’s a pussy and he doesn’t deserve better than what he gets.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Dec 31, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

easy there

it was garbage time, I’d take it as an insult too. This organization has been insulting him for years. He doesn’t help himself, and he’s immature, but still.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

be realistic

what has ty thomas done in his time here to earn anything about garbage time? he’s not some veteran that is being insulted by our organization. hes a young player who has been a bust thus far, and should be using every minute on the court to prove he can play. what you are saying is ridiculous

by blademan88 on Dec 31, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

everyone sucks!

Derrick Rose for Governor!!!!!!

by ImmanuelKant on Dec 31, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nah, man, what YOU'RE saying is ridiculous

really.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

what's the point

for every 5 things he does well, the one mistake he makes puts him in the doghouse

by gobulls1124 on Dec 31, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was the flagging really necessary? I've seen quite a bit worse said here, and routinely.

And no, I don’t think it’s much of an insult at this point.

Tyrus is a young player who hasn’t exactly built a resume of success. He’s in no way established that he’s entitled to, well… pretty much anything.

What, “but still” is there after saying that “he doesn’t help himself”. He routinely “doesn’t help himself”. He “doesn’t help himself” at pretty much every opportunity.

I’m all for being player friendly, but it’s not too much to ask of a guy to help himself and it’s reasonable to get frustrated with someone when they continually won’t.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Dec 31, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well in terms of the reasoning behind your frustration

sure. I disagree with the magnitude of what’s his responsibility, but sure.

as far as the ‘flagging’, email me if you’re confused as to why it was necessary.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not just my frustration.

I mean jeez, even if you completely discount the obvious frustration Pax, Skiles, VDN (despite their faults, they have valid views), and that nameless assclown (whose opinion I don’t value at all) showed, this is pretty much the same stuff that had Rose and damn near every veteran on the team practically screaming on court at Tyrus earlier in the year. The only difference tonight is that they just weren’t out there. But don’t think that they didn’t see it, and don’t think it doesn’t make THEM think he’s a total clown. Nobody wants their teammates to act like losers.

Which is exactly what Thomas has consistently acted like.

And yeah, it’s pretty important. Tyrus had been more productive of late, but the truth of the matter is he’d have to be damn near an all-star to make fans, coaches and teammates consider that sort of stuff minor. Success breeds forgiveness. Being slightly above average with a crummy attitude makes you damn near useless.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Dec 31, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i don't get your specific complaints

who’s yelling at Thomas and when? Is this really about today’s game where he doesn’t post up? I don’t know what you’re referring to about them yelling at him on the court.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

oh, god no.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

It started because someone ranted that Tyrus wasn’t posting up in the last minute of the game. I was commenting on that observation. No, I didn’t observe it myself.

If I’m way off base on that particular instance please fill me (and ’oakdale’) in.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to reference something with TT that happened today but then

saw your comment above that you didnt watch the game, sooo I figured it was a waste of time since you didn’t see it…

by smash! on Dec 31, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, specifics?

I’ll go back and link if you want them, but
1. Going back to high school, a couple instances of Tyrus getting mad and quitting or threatening to quit his team when things didn’t go his way. Add interviews with his college teammates and coach talking about how he’s generally a moody and remote guy.
2. Skiles “he never runs” blowup.
3. Tyrus’ pre-meditated practice blowoff last year.
4. The game earlier this year when he was loafing around early in the game. Various folks noted In the gamethread how his body language looked awful before the tip, and how Rose and other players were yelling at him to make cuts, set screens, etc.
5. A similar game with similar actions by his teammates a few games later (it was the one he threw the ball into about the fifth row).
6. His getting kicked out of practice at least once by VDN for some sort of sarcastic remark.
7. VDN’s remarks a few games ago about not getting defensive help from his bigs (seemed obvious in the particular context he was talking about Tyrus).
8. I’m also thinking about Nocioni and Gooden’s quotes which you hammered on a couple days ago. It’s true they’re not really in a position to talk from our perspective, but if you look at how the NBA works, rather than our sense of fairness, you don’t want to have fairly established, veteran players saying the young guys aren’t trying (Noc) or very good at defense (Gooden). That’s an open indictment on your teammates.

Is that specific enough. A couple of things can be discounted, perhaps, but if you put the whole thing together, it paints a consistent picture of Thomas as a pretty frustrating guy to work with.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Dec 31, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was focusing on on-court poutiness

I don’t know the game you’re talking about where he’s refusing to set screens and move, honestly. I consider the ‘running the floor’ issues to be more spaciness than poutiness.

I know he’s immature and moody and sometimes a jerk off the court. Wish he wasn’t. But I always thought he was committed to himself (at least) and wasn’t to the point where he’s openly disrupting the team on the court in a pout.

I agree that such behavior is bad. And if you see a pattern of it, it’s bad. But I don’t.

So back to this specific instance: no I didn’t see the game. I do see he was subbed in for the darling Noc at 5:13 left down 104-82. I can see how he’d take that as an insult, and be justified in that belief. Noc should be the mop-up man. He’s got the talent and personality for it :-p

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

None of those issues I pointed out were "off the court" issues. They were things that happened in games and practicing with his teams

How about the various times when he’s been “working hard on his jumper” by shooting his warmup shots left-handed.

Really and truly, I’m sort of surprised a guy like Nocioni or PJ Brown hasn’t gone apeshit crazy and tried to kill him.

De gustibus non est disputandum

by Sports2 on Dec 31, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it's time!

Fire Paxson, sell the fucking team to someone who cares about winning titles.

Derrick Rose for Governor!!!!!!

by ImmanuelKant on Dec 31, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AM1000 post game

included some canned holiday wishes from….Ben Wallace.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hes living the good life :(

by blademan88 on Dec 31, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

did anyone see the coaches huddle in the last time out?

They all stood around like they were at a shot gun wedding. Nobody wants to be there. Nobody talks. If I was an outsider I would have no idea which guy was the coach.

Derrick Rose for Governor!!!!!!

by ImmanuelKant on Dec 31, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sure you would

Del Harris!

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My WGN feed was really messed up throughout the game

But from the little bit I saw, I’m pretty glad I wasn’t able to watch it.

"I don't know, I think the Bears should just defer so they don't have to put their offense out there to start" -Tony Kornhesier

by rea5661 on Dec 31, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

being worse?

I’d take middle of the pack right now.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 31, 2008 3:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

new thread is up

happy new year!

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