Damn dude, your comments suck ass. I know mine aren’t great, but you offer no insight or personal opinion; just a bunch of colons with actions in between them.

You remind me of Colossus.

Thats the only reason im a fan of grossman (im joking by the way, i dont watch football)

Grossman is almost ineffective all the time because of his nature. He’s 6’0" with a low release so he can put velocity on his passes. That’s the way it is for him, but it’s awful to utilize in the NFL without extreme mobility because the lineman are 6’4" with 7’ reaches.

Noc is different in that there are players and positions where he is highly effective and then there are players and positions where he is highly ineffective. Richard Jefferson as the 3 is one of the highly ineffective situations for Noc. Jefferson is a free throw beggar with poor shot selection. You put a defender on him that will make him take jump shots and will take away the penetration(Thabo? DNP-CD, suck it Vinny). With Noc guarding Jefferson it’s a free for all penetration festival that might as well be filmed in the San Fernando Valley. There was so much penetration the game should have been rated X.

On offense it just got worse. Skiles know the Noc dribble penetration weaknesses. He doesn’t have enough control on drives to secure the ball. Get some hands down there and you can tip it away. Ditto with Deng. The two of them get into the paint with the basketball a foot away from their chest. They have to enter the paint like running backs securing the football and then elevate to get the shot up. They’ll either get the shot or get fouled, but as long as that ball is being held like a stinky diaper away from their body the defense has far too great of an opportunity for finger tip steals.

This was so bad it made Jefferson, Redd, and Villanueva look like stellar defenders. Please ignore the fact that our players were driving past them at will and getting almost nothing from it.

The Bucks owned us on the glass in the 3rd quarter despite Ben’s 7-8 shooting. They had 12. We had 6.

Later the Bucks attacked Aaron Gray 4 possessions in a row WITH LUKE F’N RIDNOUR. They ran Gray off the high screen and just killed us. Gray was too slow to protect and too slow to recover. That’s his weakness. I wonder if Skiles knows his former players’ weaknesses.

Vinny got outcoached by a guy that’s been fired twice for the same reasons.

Vinny could have normal rotations with a more normal roster…however this overcommitment to Noc that’s flying in the face of what everyone sees happening, it’s a problem.

i’d rather have eddie jordan. sam mitchell sucks.

i sympathize with both of them

about the Wiz actually considering taking Larry Hughes back. That would awesome.

He’s just not very good.

is driving and getting stripped while flailing about. He doesn’t defer, so it doesn’t matter if he is featured or not.

Also, he gets smoked on easy defensive assignments, too.

It is Vinny’s fault. He’s the coach. Noc is just doing what he’s capable of doing so putting him in a position where he will fail is all on Vinny.

There aren’t 5 good players on this team that can make a run on the court, cohesively, in sync, in both offense and defense.

Thats the freaking problem! Vinny has no cohesion because Vinny doesnt play the same 5 guys. If he does play the same 5 guys they arent the 5 best guys that should be playing.

This guy is in way over his head.

Let me talk about a few players here.

Gooden- This is why you can never like this guy. Besides the fact that he plays the worst defense ever. He will give you 20 and 10 for two nights then give you 1-11, 1-10 no boards at all really. I hate this guy and the sooner he can be shipped out for a 2nd rounder the better.. This guys a freaking primary option on this team! WHY? got me.. He’s older, looks stupid, doesnt know what position he is.. I hate him bad..

Gray- Again i like this guy (my wifes fav Bull, cause he’s always so happy) he should not be playing more min than JONO or TT EVER!!!!!!!! I dont care what the circumstances are.

Noc- He’s gotta go somewhere, do like Matt said or something and put him to sleep for a couple months. This guys a cohesion killer all by himself, not to mention guys we already know are like Gooden, Hughes, BG (only when he’s playing for that next deal), These guys are good ballers but terrible team ballers. Noc i dont know what this guy needs! Maybe a perm or something. The way Vinny keeps leaning on him really has me curious. Its almost like Vinny has blinders on..

Tyrus- Whats the deal? He looked pretty solid the night before? Why the hell wasnt this guy out there causing havic, taking bad jumpers, being Tyrus? Is he going to jerk around our young guys min all season? Gee i cant remember, didnt a old coach of ours do that too? WTF man

Noah- Seriously if this freaking guys still has conditioning problems then yes he should be riding a stationary bike the entire time Vinny has him rotting on the bench. I know his game is weak alot of times but this guys getting jerked around as well.

Thabo- OOWWW poor Thabo. Where are you Thabo? Maybe someone should ask Vinny if he remembers Thabo is still on this team? Vinny is too busy sicking Noc on guys way more athletic than him he forgot to realise he has a nice raw gem sitting on his bench that guess what, likes to play defense!!!! Does anyone here think Thabo might have done better against Rjeff and Iggy than Noc? I think anyone in the world could see that.

I’m not even going to rag on Hughes at this point. Ill get too mad. He just needs to go.

Vinny needs to get his head out of his ass. The worst part is he has Del Harris and Berny Bickerstaff sitting next to him while all this is going on. I wonder what they think? Do you think they actually agree with this crap? Do you think they are the ones pushing Vinny to do this crap? Do you think they just want his crappy job? This really has me concerned. I thought we hired these guys so stupid 1st grade basketball coaches couldnt outcoach Vinny! Cause trust me i wouldnt be to hard. I sick of the excuses he has a messed up roster, blah blah blah. Thats a BS cop out. This guy couldnt coach his way out of a paper bag.

Ill say it again id rather the Bulls play the young guys heavy min the entire season and win what we can win (which will be a good bit with D Rose and BG) rather than play guys like Gooden, noc, hughes.

I want to see Thabo, Tyrus, Noah, Rose, Deng and BG. I want to see some cohesion between those guys.

Im sick of A. Watching Viny screw over the young guys. B. Watching Vinny blow games trying to learn how to coach while leaning on “vets” C.Watching Vinny do both at the same time!

The Sixers roster looked like garbage last season, but with excellent defense and superb transition they took a 2-1 series lead against the Pistons.

We have the parts to do this now. We just have to play them together.

is an indefensible position this season. It’s just not there. BG is playing well above his career average defensively this season. I would have put him on Jefferson last night instead of Noc.

Michael Redd had a good shooting night, but he only got 11 shots and 2 assists meaning BG’s defense was forcing him into areas where he could not get shots and could not create them for others.

has career lows in almost every important category. VDN and Pax need to realize this and sit him down or trade him. He has zero use on the court.

Bulls get very little front court scoring, but can’t someone at least get double digit rebounds??

Gooden – 23 minutes, 9

TT – 22 minutes, 2 f’ing rebounds

Noah – 17 minutes , 5 rebounds

Gray – 20 minutes, 8 rebounds

Absolutely pathetic.