Open Game Thread #19: Bulls at Milwaukee Bucks
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 3, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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Link anyone?
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
anybody got a
game link? Two consecutive games for me not on TV
Do you have sop cast?
If you do, do this site
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
no link
i think you linked it incorrectly.
Does your assistant have a name?
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
Jesus, the Bradley Center looks like a Blackhawks game circa 2006
There’s barely anyone there. It’s frightening how many half-empty arenas there have been in the league so far this season.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
How does Rose look in black?
Pretty ballin I bet
Malik Allen: NBA starter
LOL
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Why does Gooden keep shooting jumpers?
Malik Allen is guarding him, he should be like Tim Duncan tonight.
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
Why is TT on the bench after yesterday game?
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
He's playing better than Noah, at minimum...
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
True, Noah has some serious conditioning issues
I just personally feel that Tyrus hasn’t earned it back yet, but who is to say what the real motivations behind these lineups are. It’s still early for a set rotation to be in effect.
Love the game from Luol
thus far. Aggressive.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
awesome last two minutes
lou is alive, d rose to lou for the alley oop and with another acrobatic drive and layup
That is exactly what Lu and Rose need to do
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Well I thought'd I join yall for awhile
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
Refs have swallowed thier whistles tonight.
Redd just blatently grabbed Hughes after he stripped Redd.
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
Alley up from Rose to TT
Love it
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
*alley oop
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
welp 20-19 after one quarter
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
OK folks,
Noah had 4 boards, a block and good D in a solid opening stint. Let’s see if he gets in again this half.
::crosses fingers::
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Tyrus 2-2
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
what's with
stoogetv? Did they get sued or something? I don’t have sopcast so I’m screwed. I can’t believe i’m missing them in their black unis.
its an easy dl on that sight
takes like 4 min to install
by AFireInside661 on Dec 3, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
which one
on this page do I download? http://www.sopcast.com/download/
I’m not very computer savvy as you can tell.
anybody?
I need help please! too many to choose from!
the first one
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
What are you talking about?
Did you already downloaded sopcast?
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
i'm asking
which one I click on to download it. There is like 10 different links
Follow these steps
Have we even made a perimeter shot yet?
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
WOOT!!!
We actually made a jump shot
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
Holy cow.
We bad.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
What a baaad baad team are The Bulls without Rose on the court.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Another bad note
My confidence in this team died today.
Is LH playing better lately?????????????
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Fire Paxson and Trade everyone
Rebuild around Rose…. These guys are pathetic!
WTF!!!!
Gadzurich is killing our bigmen, GADZURICH!!!!
"Rest satisified with doing well and leave others to talk of you as they please"
My grandma
could probably dominate the Bulls frontcourt, and she’s in a wheelchair.
We are getting crushed on off rebounds.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Gray time!His type of shitty game.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
wow
blown out by milwaukee. so sad. so sad. GADZURIC GADZURIC!!!!! AMAZING
He is realllyy out of shape.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Vinny
I would like to see some more Tyrus Thomas please
Wow wow wow
VDN just doesn’t understand his own player. Tyrus plays brilliantly yesterday and well in two minutes today? Bench him. Nocioni has been absolute garbage for a week? Play him. We’re getting killed on the boards? Bring in the Noc/Gray interior.
It’s inexplicably stupid.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
TT smiled when he got benched.Not good.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Seriouslly?
Are they showcasing Noc?
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
If it's true.This is not a good "show".
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
When Pax said he had never coached before,
I didn’t know that meant that he had no concept of the principles of coaching.
If LH plays good D,shots less with better shot selection.
I can live with that till 2010.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
I hate him
But o have to admit that he’s playing well
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
Like a eclipse?
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
Maybe we can dump him
off on Milwaukee along with Kirk…..Or as many as they will take…..like Skiles
this is awful basketball
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
Yeah BG!
Go get yours! Don’t worry about passing to Rose or anybody! You put your head down, get to the rim, and show all those GMs that you can be the guy.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
i dont think he does it enough....
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
Dude is 1/8 tonight
and he decides it’s time to get his. When he’s on fire, I still would rather Rose have the ball in his hands, because I know Rose is going to try to get BG the rock where he can be effective. When he’s 1/8, it’s just selfish garbage.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Even if Rose fucks it up
I’d still rather have the ball in Rose’s hands so he can get more crunch time experience. Ben is not our future, and he’s getting in the way of Roses’ development.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Dec 3, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
let’s not be too hasty…
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
If we can get something in
return…send him off asap. We know how he plays. Other than taking it to the iron more this season, he is the same player.
Somethings never change (BG being selfish)
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
Man, BG is playing a terrible game so far.
I was yelling at my computer screen for him to give the ball up to Rose to close the half, but he did his usual iso-thing where he dribbled out the clock and then forced an ugly contested runner in traffic. Then Aaron Gray got the ball and failed at being able to simply drop the ball into the hoop. Honestly Aaron, you’re 7’0" just dunk the fucking ball, asshat.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:08 PM CST reply actions
it's not his fault Vinny plays him so many minutes. He stinks. When he plays a lot of minutes, Bulls lose, period.
Also, he’s getting minutes that should be TT’s. (Tyrus is playing nicely tonight and did last night, makes no sense that he only got 7 minutes in the first half). I’m sure Vinny thought it was somehow a good idea to put Gray in there to match up with Bogut cause they’re both big and white. Earth to Vinny: Aaron Gray stinks and Andrew Bogut is good, play your best players. Jeesh.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
link??
guys im sorry but i spent the first half looking for a link… im on a mac so sopcast doesnt work… help lpease, i need my rose fix!!
I don't think you want one for this game.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 3, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely
who wants to watch Aaron Gray?
(Little joke.)
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
would if I could, bud.
I have no idea how that stuff works.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
In the first half:
The Good:
Deng
Hughes
DRose
Tyrus (in the 7 minutes he got)
The Bad:
Everyone else + Vinny
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions
The Ugly
Benjamin Gordon
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
agreed, Ben is having one of those "off nights"
that shooters have. He compounded it at the end of the half by selfishly going iso rather than getting the ball into Derrick’s hands. Hughes is outplaying him tonight and it’s not close. That said, Hughes is generally garbage and it’s always better to have BG out there than Larry, just on principle. Hopefully Ben turns it around in the second half.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
I do like the progress from T2 and Deng
these last two games.
Goddamn we need an interior.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
If TT keeps it up and Gooden continues to look like this
maybe VDN will pull his head out of his ass and give TT some minutes
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
as far as Deng goes, I'd like to see him rebounding the ball a bit better
2 rebounds in 18 minutes really doesn’t cut it from the SF slot. Although, he’s been efficient scoring the ball and has played pretty solid all around, so I guess I should just hope he starts hitting the glass soon or just not be so nitpicky. Meh.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
This is the lineup we SHOULD go with in the 2nd half...
Rose—-Hughes—-Deng—-TT—-Gooden/Noah/Gray (whoever is playing even mediocre basketball). I DO NOT want to see Noce in there producing nothing but fouls. I DO NOT want to see BG7 out there chucking up garbage.
This is THE BUCKS. I hated the bucks before Skiles and Boylan ruined some of our guys and bolted to the worst city in the midwest. THE BUCKS, man. THE BUCKS!
Chicago Bulls: Where making Dan Gadzuric look like an all-star happens.
From reading the comments, I'm kind of glad I can't watch this one
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
does anyone realize we are down by 14????
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:27 PM CST reply actions
Bucks are shooting lights out.
"Derrick Rose is like a $500,000 Maybach parked in the driveway of a $200,000 house in the middle of nowhere" - Bill Simmons
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 3, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Obvious but still alarming stat:
Gooden and BG are shooting a combined 11% tonight. They have taken 18 shots between them.
It's hilarious watching Skiles run this same stuff with the Bucks.
Just good enough to get their ass kicked in the first round.
wtf
Noah can’t defend Malik Allen
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
i joined the game late.
my program guide had the game listed on the wrong channel, so my DVR missed the first half.
am i assuming that we went with a different lineup to start again?? if that is the case, that is no way to develop consistency. i hate the ‘matchup’ starters.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions
we started Gray??
did he start last night, too?? i don’t remember seeing him out there, especially with how TT was playing.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Now it's not too early to say :
“He is getting off rhe rust lil bit.”
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Deng hits a 3!
Im still not sure thats the shot he should be taking but the Man from Sudan is on fire tonight so keep him firing!
Was that a 3? wow
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This is BG's worst game
offensively, defensively, in terms of fitting into his role. One game with BG and Deng rolling together? Please?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
you have to cut him some slack BG can't be hot every night
Deng should be the one that takes this over and he is doing decent right now
Hughes is hitting some shots too.
by i_like_turtles on Dec 3, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
he's our leading scorer tonight...
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Tyrus!
Great Block!
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
Gordon's starting to feel it.
4 straight points.
He gotta get emberessed playing worse than Larry Hughes.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
wow...
how behind are you guys? or ahead i’m watching the Bucks b’cast and it was a timeout when you guys said the above.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions
not like everyone types instantly...and there might be a small delay
by i_like_turtles on Dec 3, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. Used the timeout to write.
Hehehe!
Also, Deng is 8-11 and has 19pts. That’s the 70M player we’ve been looking for.
lol.
duh. but what they typed did not happen remotely near when i saw it. maybe a minute or two earlier. lol.
though i must admit, i’ve missed a lot while watching the games cause of this blogging crap. lol.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
hey hey, watch your mouth.
lay off the MacBooks. they can’t help being perfect.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
That was crazy by BG!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
I gotta say it
Derrick Rose’s defense is ass on Ridnour.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
anyone with a more constructive comment than tobo about non sopcast link?
oh and what’s up with the DNPs for thabo…
I have no idea about Thabo not getting burn, especially since he was playing well in his limited minutes
earlier in the season. The only thing I can think of is that they are trying to raise Nocioni’s value so they can dump him (it’s not going well) and they can’t bench Larry because he’ll cry.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I almost added that as a caveat. Truth be told, I've been content with Larry this season
notwithstanding his comments about being unhappy with his “role”.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
finally Gordon back to norm
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
Gordon loves playing the Bucks
"Derrick Rose is like a $500,000 Maybach parked in the driveway of a $200,000 house in the middle of nowhere" - Bill Simmons
I hate him because he trys to handle the ball and ends up taking terrible shots
When he plays his ROLE, I like him. That includes coming off screens and letting Rose create for him
I don't think Gordon is a spot-up shooter, therefore Rose can't create for him.
Most of his jumpers are going 1 on 1
I was hopeful that he would regain his shooting touch, but it is frustrating when shooters have off nights
because you know what they’re capable of. But, it comes with the territory. When the shots don’t fall, they don’t fall. The only problem I had with BG was that iso at the end of the half where he didn’t get it to Rose to create (I will always have a problem with Ben going iso to end games and halves, because he’s not good at it).
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
OK this time it worked fo BG.But
I stiil didn’t like the play.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Ben Gordon feeling it.
Let’s just hope he scores 30 more like last yr wen redd and bg were 52 and 48 pts.
Nocioni can't guard 3's anymore
"Derrick Rose is like a $500,000 Maybach parked in the driveway of a $200,000 house in the middle of nowhere" - Bill Simmons
Take NOch out NOW!!!He just can't defend!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
He really has no business being on the floor
There has to be something more to it because Vinny can’t possibly be this blind
Yes he can!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
i don't know...
but he has a cool name.
luc richard mbah a moute.
btw, you ever wonder about ‘athlete’ names?? how some guys just have natural athletic names, like it fits their profession. like Drew Bledsoe. Scottie Pippen. Rocket Ismael. Smush Parker. Ty Law. Lawyer Malloy. Deacon Jones.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
What the fuck is this lineup?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
it''s vinny's strategy of being down 10 with 5 min to go.
and hoping bg can shoot the lights out to come back out on top .
Can someone explain to me why the hell Noc has to play all 4th quarters?
Deng was playing well, put him back in
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
Why isn't Deng in? Is Vinny blind?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Whatever the opposite of synergy is
That’s what Ben and Hughes together on the court are
by drew gooden's facial growth on Dec 3, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions
Nocioni doesn't smoke weed ...
Swing and a miss?
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Gooden 1-11. WTF.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
What the hell? What does RJeff have against Derrick Rose?
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions
Hopefully Noc proves useful for once and knocks him the fuck out
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
skiles
why doesnt he play bogut. bogut probably could dominate us considering gadzuric had like 20 rebounds in two minutes.
Malik Allen
Won’t give up those compromising pictures of Skiles
"Derrick Rose is like a $500,000 Maybach parked in the driveway of a $200,000 house in the middle of nowhere" - Bill Simmons
by RogersPark Kris on Dec 3, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Bogut just got back from injury.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
but he's not returning
bucks announcers just said so. they think it might be worse than a hit to the face if he’s not returning.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Bogut went to the locker room
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
What'd he do? No feed :(
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I bet you can guess
He was being out of control and going 1 on 4 when the ball was stolen. not surprised, right?
So Gordon was on fire, but then VDN takes him out?
That makes great sense!!!!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
But it's alrite
Vinny’s got a plan.
To lose, and say the rite stuff in press conferences and then be a hypocrite and not do those things.
Fuck you Vinny!
This os much like yesterday game.
Take Noch and Gooden to the bench!!!!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
*so much
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Trade Noc ASP!!!
Fuck…
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
VDN is a bad coach?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
This makes no sense Deng was playing GREAT and he's riding pine
so Nocioni can come in and lose the game for us? What the hell man. Fire Vinny!
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply actions
VDN is so fucking dumb
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Bulls need a miracle
"Derrick Rose is like a $500,000 Maybach parked in the driveway of a $200,000 house in the middle of nowhere" - Bill Simmons
Can we officially say...
Skiles is outcoaching VDN?
Me and you can outcoach VDN.WTF?
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Bulls are getting pounded on the boards...again.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply actions
ok maybe not pounded, but it feels that way.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Gadzuric and Villanueva look like...
freaking all-stars when they play us.
Damn it.
Its is all on Pax
Ultimately, he is most responsible for this mess.
Bingo!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Skiles Revenge.Ha ha ha.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Unfortunately.
and payback, as we know, is always a bitch.
Who hired VDN?
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Being cheap doesn't have to equal being inept
Look at what the kid coach in Miami is doing. Find a good talent and give him a chance.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
yeah
spoelstra was groomed by riley, sat behind him for some years now. just like the van gundy’s. i don’t understand how they got caught with their pants down on D’Antoni. we need a legit coach to go with our legit talent in Rose.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Who hired the guy who hired VDN?
It’s all his fault
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
And VDN inherited these players
So, Pax is most responsible.
Hey, look at that Deng comes in and he's playing well again
Fuck you Vinny for letting Noc put us in this hole. You suck, Vinny!
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply actions
Vinny looks like he's going to throw up
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply actions
Can you believe that we have the same record as the Knicks?
I propose that coaching might be responsible for a little of that.
Partly, strenght of schedule has a lot to do with it as well, much more so
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
This is supossed to be an easy stretch
against 76,Bucks,Griz,NY,etc.If they don’t win this games,I quit till VDN is fired and Pax makes makes some trades.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
*these
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
It's just so weird...
to fight back from a 14 point deficit, go just four points down at the end of 3, replace 4 of the guys who got you back in the game, go down by 14 again and now bring those same guys to get you back in the game.
Noce has to go, no doubt.
thanks for the summary
I was so blown away by how bad they were playing I knew he made a lot of changes. But that says it all there. Replace 4/5 guys that got you back from 14 down? What sense does that make?
Non-sense.
Maybe change 2 of them, then bring them back in and replace the other two but all four of them?
BOOOOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:07 PM CST reply actions
At leats we can see somethings good from Rose
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
I really want to hate hughes
but he’s been playing pretty good lately
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions
Thirded.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Who cares whether or not he gets another assist? Hopefully he scores 10 points in the next 3 minutes
I could care less how many assists he finishes with
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Also where the hell is Tyrus?!
He played a great game last night and now he’s only gotten 12 minutes? Define a rotation Vinny and stick with it for chrissakes!
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions
It's not like those 12 minutes were bad either
certainly not as bad as Gooden has been 1-11…are you F***ing serious? This guy thinks he can shoot
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
he shoots better than Thomas
he had a bad night
by i_like_turtles on Dec 3, 2008 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
But if TT is going 1-5 he gets benched
how the hell does Gooden get away with 1-11 VDN needs to keep the same standards if you suck you ride pine simple as that
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Dec 3, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
TT and LH making shots.Dagger.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Poohdini!!!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
lol
ricdiculous
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
rose likes these easy 3 ptrs
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
ROSE BABY
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
Derrick Rose is the best thing since sliced bread!
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply actions
really? sliced bread??
so this is as good as it gets, huh folks??
anyone? anyone??
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
This game justifys what I already knew:
This team is not a playoff team. They lost at home last night to a horrible 6ers team and are losing to an even worse Bucks team. Not good. All you optimists need a reality check: This team blows!
Derrick Rose will win the Bulls a few games they don't deserve this year and you don't even
need to be a .500 team to make playoffs in the East. It could happen.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
We've barely played a fourth of the season.
DRose is getting better every game he plays, Deng is getting his touch back, Hughes is not sucking as bad as we believed he would, Gordon is still Gordon…
We’ll be a playoff team. A bad playoff team but a play off team.
and maybe just maybe VDN will figure out that Noc is finished
and Tyrus needs to get consistent minutes to keep being effective.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
wishfull thinking.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
I should have said
We won’t be a .500 team. We might make the playoffs but that really means absolutely nothing if you have a below .500 record. If we get a legit big-man, we’ll be alot better obviously. The 2nd worst GM in the NBA better get a deal done for somebody.
can you just slide in with both feet like that?
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
Tyrus has to block out Gadzuric there
"Derrick Rose is like a $500,000 Maybach parked in the driveway of a $200,000 house in the middle of nowhere" - Bill Simmons
just awful
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
WHERE THE HELL WAS THE FOUL!!!!!!
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions
VDN lost this game to fucking Gadzurich
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Skiles doesn't even smile.
Bet you he’s giggling inside.
Wonder if he's wishing he was on the other side still
Forget the score, just look at those two rosters and ask yourself which team you’d rather coach
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
He does have Bogut, Redd and Jefferson.
We have Rose, Deng and…wel, Gordon.
Would you rather have Villanueva, Gadzuric, Ridnour and Allen or Gooden, Hughes, TT and Noah?
why aren't they trying to stop the clock??
what the hell does VDN think the score is?? why weren’t they fouling there.
add gadzuric to list of average bigs to abuse us this year.
if Ricky Williams averages 3.5 yards a carry, and you give it to him 3 times, he should get you the first down. -Dave Wannstedt
by BULLieving in Miami on Dec 3, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply actions
guys, im listening this game to the radio and...
… it drives me insane!
I thought Rose would manage to bring the bulls back ahead… why not let him take over a bit earlier…??
Rose gets ZERO
respect from refs. Gets ticky-tacks against him, gets hacked and doesn’t get the call. But let’s not kid ourselves: the Bulls just lost to two bad teams because we’re pretty bad ourselves.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Seriously, why does he not get calls? He's proven what kind of player he is. He gets no respect
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 3, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
What rookie has ever gotten calls in the history of the NBA?
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
Um, he's a rookie. Rookie's don't get calls.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want him to "get" calls
at this stage, I just want the game called fairly against him. He got hit multiple times and no call. Yet you breathe on Andre Miller and it’s a call.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
And again,
Rose played well. Not great, but well. Ditto Deng and Gordon after that awful start. It’s just that our frong court is bad. Historically bad. Drew Gooden – 1/11. Aaron Gray – 2/6. And when players like DAN GADZURIC, a lifelong scrub, dominate you, it demonstrates exactly what kind of interior we have. Trash.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Turnovers
are why it isn’t great, and his poor defensive job on Ridnour. 18/9/4 is awesome, but combined with those other things…I think he just played well.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Even the greats have mad turnovers considering how much the ball is in their hands
Ridnour . . . that’s a good point
He also played 43 minutes, so those numbers are a little inflated
and as was mentioned you left off his high number of turnovers.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
that was the most aggrivating game all year
more so than even the portland game… all those strips and non fouls called on Roses’ drives were driving me crazy. Gordon definately needs to go though. His one quarter of fire isn’t worth his other three of shit shots and not letting Rose run the show…
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
This is a terrible terrible Bulls team and its not helped by the coach not playing the best
players. Noc should not being seeing the floor. Neither should Aaron Gray. Tyrus needs to be getting WAY more minutes and so does Noah (assuming he can stop wheezing long enough to play them, because he’s good when he plays).
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:21 PM CST reply actions
i really do think they play up to their competition...or down to it....however you look at it....
thats how this team is….they have the talent to compete but they do enough to compete and be in the game………
Refs are the last one to blame.
Start with Paxdorf.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
well, i'm not saying other things couldn't have been helped
but watching rose get hacked over and over just sucks
Few games Rose was getting kinda allstar treatment.
Refs today gave him rookie treatment.
We just have shitty frontcourt and stupid inexpirienced coach.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
meh, I'm tired of my Chicago teams being extremely inconsistent!
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
MY FUCKING GOD
LOSING TO SCOTT FUCKING SKILES
The only solution to this team right now is to give the ball to Rose, and get OUT of the way.
I HATE IT, whenever Rose passes the ball, but NEVER sees it back again. It’s like the other players are not even LOOKING to pass to him.
WTF??
That is exactly what I am waiting for
They need a Doug Collins Michael – Jordan mentality until they can trade to surround Rose with the right crew.
Fire Paxson. Honestly. I've had enough. The guy has known we haven't had a legitimate
big man for years and hasn’t addressed it. He should be fired for the Nocioni signing alone, but combined with the ridiculous other moves he’s made… the guy just HAS to go. He’s a joke and one of the worst GMs in the league. The guy has no plan. His plan before seemed to be… draft high character guys from winning programs, rebuild the team around a youth movement and then they made the Wallace signing, dumped Chandler for nothing, didn’t make a deal with the PJ Brown expiring, and basically screwed up in every way imaginable save for the drafting of Rose. Also, hiring VDN has been a disaster. The guy looks lost.
by fundamentallysound on Dec 3, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions
Then, when he could've got the big man
who fit his profile (big school, skilled, high character) in LMA, he didn’t take him. Good time to deviate from the formula!
But seriously: I agree. I don’t want this do-nothing milquetoast building a team around Rose. I don’t want the guy who hired VDN building a team around Rose.
I’d like a GM.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 3, 2008 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are so reactionary...
We just got rose, we’re just realizing what we have and what type of players we need to surround him with, so give Paxson a break. You have no idea what he’s tried to do or what he’s trying to do. I don’t either, but looking at the situation, short of drafting Noah, I can’t say I’m 100% sure he’s terrible bc his job isn’t all public knowledge. And
I was pissed about the D’antoni thing but I’m pretty sure that was all Reinsdorf. Getting Ben Wallace was mostly all Reinsdorf too, so IMO the 2 major offenses were pure Jerry.
And I dont believe anyone who said they wanted LMA over TT on draft night 2 yrs ago.
by smash! on Dec 3, 2008 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish/hope Noah gets some muscle, learns how to shoot, gets conditioned and figures it out...
but there were a few guys I would have rather drafted that have panned out to be far better players so far. And I thought the only Gator worth drafting was Al Horford…
Perhaps, but this is the sort of game that makes me not want to watch basketball.
Not just the Bulls, but basketball in general. I mean seriously people, the NBA is a multi-billion dollar set of enterprises and this is the sort of thing it produces?
Seriously, this is crap, and if even people who are hard core fans think it’s crap, what does the casual fan think? I’ll tell you what they think… they don’t think twice. They go watch something else. Yuck.
You know what this league needs?
1. About half as many teams. And about half as many completely shitty players nobody cares about seeing. Seriously… get rid of the Milwaukee Bucks. Make them a team in whatever AAA sort of league you want and knock the NBA down to 16 teams. You add the 3 or 4 actually good players on the Bucks and the 3 or 4 actually good players on the Bulls, and you’ve got yourself a real, live team that someone might, if they thought about it, pay to watch play other similarly composed teams.
2. The end of uber-long guaranteed contracts. If a guy sucks, you should be able to cut his ass and get someone else. With half as many jobs, there will be someone else available. If Michael Redd or Andres Nocioni look like the broken down bums they look like, send em packing. Punish the team financially for a year or something, but don’t make fans watch years and years of Dan Gadzuric.
De gustibus non est disputandum
Well Smash,
it’s not about me not recognizing the better player. I don’t watch hundreds of hours of tape, interview them, and get paid to make the decision as to whether to take LMA or T2. People like Pax (and more importantly) Kevin Pritchard do. Additionally, this team has had the same problem since we drafted Kirk – no credible bigs. Five seasons with the same issue and Pax hasn’t addressed it. Half a decade and no progress. Scratch that – regression.
He drafted T2 instead of LMA, Noah instead of Hawes, gave away Chandler and signed, in his place, Ben Wallace. Regardless of whatever facets of his job aren’t public – and I’m sure a lot of them aren’t – he didn’t land Pao Gasol or anybody else.
He’s good at picking out guards who can play. He’s never once picked – either by free agency, trade or the draft – a credible big. And it’s not that he hasn’t had chances.
Derrick’s raised the stakes. Pax’s bad moves were magically transformed into a good one. I don’t want to gamble that will happen again.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Dec 4, 2008 6:29 AM CST up reply actions
Few things...
In retrospect that sounds great but how many people weren’t stoked to get Wallace over Chandler? (I hated Wallace and liked Chandler but I was in the great minority.)
How many people (analysts, other GMs, scouts) preferred Hawes over Noah?
Thinking they had a center in place at the time, how many experts didn’t prefer Paxson to finally take a gamble on the ceiling of TT over LMA? He should have taken Roy, but based on your criticism, similar to alot of others, that we needed bigs, he went big.
Pau Gasol, yeah that makes me sick to think about it, but that effing Memphis GM should be banned for making that Lakers deal. No question the Bulls were offering more than LA, but Memphis wanted even more and no doubt Jerry squashed an expanded package due to luxury tax territory.
We could go back and forth on what may have or may not have happened, but all I’m saying is we need to give him time now that he made the blatantly correct pick of Rose and see what he does NOW.
Our frontcourt is our only real problem
But its a HUGE problem.
Where is Paxon? Seriously? Its been years..
by rquinsee on Dec 3, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions
honestly
we have three players we need to get rid of and they are BG, noce, and hughes
BG is inconsistent, noce just gets in the way and doesnt know what hes doing, and i just hate hughes.
i really hope the bulls can somehow get gooden and noah in a deal for a big man on the trading block such as kaman because our frontcourt blows except for maybe TT and deng
If they can deal Deng..
in a trade for a superstar, they should jump on it. Unfortunately, I think we have seen the best of Deng. He is only a slasher and not even really good at that.
....
I think this team has bunch of problems
Frontcourt is atrocious yes….but we have been competitive in all our games. We could have WON many of them. The Spurs game could have been ours, the Philly game, and the Bucks game tonight. We could have won them if things we played SMART.
That’s the most important thing with this team, playing SMART.
And right now, only Rose is doing that. He doesn’t take bad shots, he knows when to attack when to pass. But everyone else seem clueless, not just the frontcourt…but sometimes the backcourt too. Gordon, Hughes all take tons of bad shots. Deng takes bad shots. Thomas….what about his retarded jumper with about 2 minutes left huh? What was that garbage? All TERRIBLE shots….
We have to play smart first, if we do that, our record would be 11-8 and not 8-11
This way I’ll see them when my assistant brings me the flag reports each morning.
^
How the hell did you get an assistant? I don’t even have one at my job. Damn!
BTW…anyone want to give me quick recap..who sucked? who balled? why we lost? How was Vinny’s hair….etc…etc
"That’s the reason why you are on the court—to take someone’s heart." - Air Force One
Everyone on the team has adapted to playing with Rose except BG.
At this point i’d rather see Hughes out there. I hated Hughes as much as the next guy, but as long as he’s taking open shots and hitting ‘em and playing solid D I think he is the far superior compliment to Rose. Right now BG is obviously competing with Rose and trying to do things he wouldn’t normally do.
ok.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 3, 2008 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
I said, I know that BG is a better player i'm not doubting that.
But if Derrick can score like he has been, we don’t really need another scorer like Ben. Especially if he’s forcing stuff up like he did today. If Larry could defend like he did today and take mostly open shots I really think he can be a better option.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 3, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
yes, Rose will need other scorers. He's merely a point god
he can’t be the best player, primary ballhandler, and take the entire scoring load too. A championship team around Rose won’t be him and 4 guys standing and taking jumpshots. argh.
Gordon forces shots because his teammates can’t. It’s not a perfect combination yet, but when I read that the first problem is always Gordon it pisses me off.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 3, 2008 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say that BG was the first problem.
I just don’t think he’s the answer in the long term. Obviously we don’t only need four jump shooters around Rose. I think that you can play a guy like Hughes next to Rose if you could somehow supplant BG with a productive frontcourt player.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 3, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Hughes is just like Gordon
except his shots don’t go in as much
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 3, 2008 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe, but Hughes isn't gonna require a 6 year contract after this year
that could severely impact our ability to go after free agents in the future.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 3, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
That is an insult to Gordon.
Seriously.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
I was being flip (not flip saunders)
people don’t seem to care if shots go in, only if they’re shot with perfect form and completely open and if Derrick Rose passed it first.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 4, 2008 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
bingo
i seriously wish people would get off the “let Rose give you the ball” mentality. I understand he is our franchise, but come on people, it’s ok if other people handle the ball or make passes.
Paxson/Vinny
The real problem is Reinsdorf not Paxson. Paxson is just a pawn, he has no real power. Reinsdorf fucked up the coaching hire. Wasn’t a huge D’Antoni fan, but he would have been a great fit as coach. Vinnie is awful, way overmatched. Even if Pax gets fired, Reinsdorf is only gonna hire a yesman anyway….he has the wallet and the final say. Don’t get me wrong, Pax has screwed up but until we get a real owner who is willing to pay luxury tax to field a real team, the Bulls are screwed.
ps can we please trade Noc for a sack of basketballs?
recap's up.
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