Heat 90, Bulls 77: coal in our stocking from the Bulls organization

We’re the anti-Spurs.

One post option is all this team has and it’s aaron gray. This season is just going to keep getting worse unless a trade is made FOR A TRUE POST PRESENCE. I TRADE ANYONE ON THIS TEAM EXCEPT, ROSE, NOC AND TYRUS, AND SADLY GRAY CAUSE HE CAN SCORE DOWN LOW. Paxson is shit he better make a trade before it’s too late like last year, the heat are a mediocre team, BUT THE ONE THING THAT SAVES ME FROM BEING COMPLETELY PISSED IS SEEING BEASLEY LOOK UNDERSIZED, SMALLER THAN NOCIONI AND AN ABSOLUTE CERTIFIED BUST! Caron butler minus a drive and true shot.

so it’s time to blow up the team, we’re not going anywhere, we’ve got no interior, a coach who doesn’t know what he’s doing…

Nothing we didn’t know.

The tough thing for me, as a Bulls fan, is being emotionally invested in the good stuff while trying to ignore the rest.

Seriously what do we make of him? He shows flashes of greatness, but then flashes of not knowing what to do and lack of aggresion.

Do the Bulls want to be players in the 2010 offeseason? If so, then they need to immediately start trying to dump contracts, starting with Hinrich and Nocioni (and maybe even Deng). If not, then they need to take advantage of opportunities to trade for talented players for 50 cents on the dollar. The Clippers got Zach Randolph for almost nothing. Granted, he’s got a lot of warts, but he’s just an example; other talented players are going to be available simply because of their contracts. Either way, pick a fucking direction and stick with it. Bill Walton was 100% correct – this team has no plan. They’ve been stockpiling draft picks forever, so you’d think they would want to go young, but then they play veterans like Drew Gooden, Andres Nocioni, and Larry Hughes over the draft picks. The team is just spinning it’s wheels, hoping for the 8th seed, and that’s the worst place an NBA team can be.

Not at any of his players, though.

http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2008/12/bulls-angriest-after-loss-in-miami.html

— And then with 30 seconds left and Miami ahead by 13, the Heat called timeout, which seemed to get the Bulls more upset than they were all game.

Bulls coach Vinny Del Negro, always spirited as a player, reportedly told players to remember what the Heat had done to show them up with assistant Del Harris gesturing toward the Heat bench after the game, apparently not in one of those “good game” sportsmanship gestures.

“They were just calling timeout to set up a play or something,” Del Negro told assembled reporters with an edge after the game. “I don’t know what they were doing. There’s 30 seconds to go in the game. They’re up 15 or 13 or whatever. But, whatever, we’ll play them again.”

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said he was mystified.

“I wanted to get our guys out,” Spoelstra said. “They had some guys at the scorers’ table (the Bulls didn’t). I wasn’t clearly doing anything to show anybody up. That is a common practice in the NBA. I wanted to get our guys out, just in case something crazy would happen, and it allowed them to get their subs in, too.”

Though as Spoelstra added afterward, “Whatever.”

The Bulls left the court angry, as you would hope, not why you’d think.

“That is something only done to disrespect the opponent,” said Nocioni about that timeout at 30 seconds left.

“I don’t why they’re all fired up,” Spoelstra said. “If they want to make a big deal about it, whatever.”

He looks awful out there, even if he can shoot pretty good. I’d say noc looked bigger than him, much thicker legs, and stronger arms. Beasley is short probably 2" shorter than tyrus and maybe a half inch shorter than Noc. Rose is a point guard and already doing well has all the athleticism necessary and has shown more than enough flashes of greatness to think at least an all star talent. Beasley on the other hand looks awful. He’s shockingly short, and his legs are skinnier than Tyrus’, man I WOULD FEEL LKE A COMPLETE TURD RIGHT NOW IF BEASLEY WAS ON OUR TEAM AND ROSE WAS TEARING US UP WITH THE HEAT.

Word has it the fav five and it’s how to play the rookie,
taken out of his game pretty much the last week and just pure frustration.
Make some trades, but you can get a guy like Iverson that will collect three fouls, legit or not in a matter of minutes and take him out of the game. He has hit the game average per year for the last five, let’s how much gas is in the tank and hope Hein gets back sooner than later. Looks like someone took my advice and is signing a well experienced center for a nice 10 -15 minutes a game, Dikembie for under 1 million, a bargain. Gray and Noah could use this bad, there is no true big man coach on this team.

Look, they got Lebron down to 35 min max, why do you play a rookie point guard 38 for a total of 4-15 FG and 10 points? Plus, mostly over 40 minute games since the season started, now he is spent and the word has spread on how to guard him. You can’t trade anything, cause Rose is tired and the rest of the team shows it in their game.
Get on Hughes all you want, but off the bench you can’t blame the guy for being the second or third leading scorer with 20 something minutes and having a highest shooting percentage? You just call out the chuckers, but never the stats? If he is throwing up all these bad shots, why is shooting percentage so damn high? Rose on the bench with three fouls against him (fair or unfair, thats the call). Iverson in Detroit and the Miami Guards, blew him out and he is tired, then look at the turnovers of these guards, every guard, 4-5 turnovers? WHEW. This team isn’t going far, but I would not burn out my prized player by January 1, he didn’t even try one three pointer, they word is out on how to guard him, you will not see the first 8 week performance consistently again unless an injury break (which may come when you have him this tired). Ya, sure Hughes put up a bunch of three pointers in the fourth (his team leading average will dip) but when your down by 13 with minutes left, thats what your told to do. That is someone playing for the team, not himself, coaches see it, most fans don’t. Hey, when he hits 30 plus minutes he puts up Rose numbers of three weeks ago and knows who he is playing against. We win more when he is in the game, bad shot or not, Gorden and now Rose (is now in the league officially as of last week) do the same, some percentage and both do little on defense). Are they beating Hughes in Percentages big time? Just win games, then we can trade, get some leads, otherwise nobody is going to want any player here, winning is everything, for a trade. Showcasing players that go out in loss and are 2-10 with 13 minutes, is not going to cut it. Two centers that score 6 points combined, everyone wants that. Mutumbo has interest from 7 teams and signs in the next two weeks and is on the court at 43. Injured players and those with bad attitudes and contract fights aren’t either of interest. Sure Washington (very badly) and a few other teams want Hughes, but we don’t have anything else to offer, period. If so, who and why, that is not injured, they will flourish once we get the great player and we give the 14 minute bench player? So skip minutes, the starters, a few shots, study the stats and see who keeps you close and wins games when on the court and better yet, plays to win on both sides of the court for the team and not themselves. Coaches always play Hughes last quarter and a half but the game are to tight, didn’t happen that way when he started at hit 30 minutes. Bad team chemistry at the United Center, maybe worse outside it for a long time. You think we want these players out, how about thinking about how bad they want out?

he basically said, “it’s been really hard to set a rotation with all out injury problems. we haven’t really been able to set a rotation period.”

What a cop-out. We haven’t dealt with an inordinate amount of injuries – few more than the average NBA team.

He should still have a solid rotation set in stone. Give minutes to build for the future – even if it may seem that we get a couple more losses through it. Play rose, gordon, deng, thomas, noah exclusively. Then give gooden, noc, whoever the scraps left.

The constants that have to be in the rotation for us to compete – Rose and Gordon. Point blank. Without both of them in the lineup – I wouldn’t be surprised to see us lose every game….badly. The rest of the roster is just interchanging parts that don’t give us a much more production then the next part. Aka play the one’s with the most potential – Noah and Thomas. And you paid Deng a lot of money – play him.

This cop-out he gave yesterday is irresponsible. And also irresponsible to set your rotation to the detriment of the future of this franchise.

Because I feel like this franchise has been spinning its wheels with its last 4 coaches or so.

I feel like we’ve had good players here through the years (Artest, Brad Miller, Brand, Rose, etc) – but there’s always a damn inefficient system here that doesn’t maximize its talents. I don’t know what it is. I guess it’s just what all losing organizations have and can’t seem to fix.

It goes a lot deeper than Vinny – and not sure he really can truly succeed in this system.

We are seeing what happens when we hire a coach with no experience, even bench experience. He has no convictions and is finding himself. What kind of coach has he shown to be? He seems to like D’Antoni’s offense first mentality, defense is not important, and then likes Golden State’ play small to get ball movement. I wished we had hired a defensive coach, like Sloan. I say that we have bigs that are defensive minded, but are not in a defensive scheme. TT and Noah are already able to play D, when coached. We also have two SF, that have shown to play D under Skiles. We have guards that pkay D, Thabo ad Huges and Rose can lean D if he was in a team that preached it. I just think the gimmicky ball is finally over and the teams are learning to diffuse the D-League lineup that VDN puts out. Rose is trying to take over and he is forcing bad shots and getting to the rim when it is not there. He is not L. James and even James can be stopped if the whole team focuses on that.