Sixers 103, Bulls 95: Not the worst game I've seen, but that's only because I'm a Bulls fan so I see a lot of garbage
blech.
The only reason the Bulls weren't blown out early was because the Sixers were trying to match their terribleness. Then while remaining close, it took the Bulls more Sixers awfulness to allow them to tie the game. And overtime was a whole separate steamy pile.
So much for whatever could've been built on from Sunday: the Bulls offense was completely discombobulated when the Sixers aggressively attacked them on the perimeter. Basically back to their 'my turn' offense, and with Derrick Rose joining in on the miscues (he was great when he shot the ball, but was not much else tonight) the team had no chance.
Drew Gooden really really thinks Drew Gooden is good. Heck, just ask him. Not only did he think he was good on Tuesday night, but he thought he was Amare Stoudamire. Just completely on his own trying to create plays from 22-feet inwards. Ben Gordon was not letting open looks come to him, and when not forcing shots in the lane (rarely did he take an open jumper) he was part of several missed handoffs on the perimeter.
So with those two not having good nights, and Rose having an uncharacteristically sloppy game, and Luol Deng going MIA in the second half, and the Philadelphia 76ers offense in general...just all sorts of bad. There's no excuse for this team to play like that. I do not accept this as some karmic retribution for 'stealing' one in Philly. That Philly team sucked, and the Bulls decided to match them.
The one bright spot was Tyrus Thomas, who had one of his best games of the year. Was instrumental in the final comeback, was not (well...a couple times) forcing things on offense. This was the Tyrus who once earned a spot in the rotation: the type of game where if you just leave him out there, good things will happen. And perhaps most importantly, it's now been several games since he produced a complete zero (through minutes yanking and bad play alike).
Vinny did some good and bad: I liked how he had Thomas as the first big off the bench and resisted going small. Not too much Hughes at the 3, Hunter at the 2, Noc at the 4, etc. I was trying to be clever and call out Vinny's sub pattern but missed repeatedly, which I consider a good sign. I thought he was a bit too aggressive in benching Rose late due to foul trouble, but it turned out to be necessary.
But man did he stink up overtime. (it even started out bad, why have Gooden take the tip and not Tyrus?) I realize this is the typical coachy' thing to do, but it was completely daft to ride the same lineup through the entire overtime just because they're the ones who got you there. Especially since it involved Andres Nocioni on Andre Iguodala. What's the sense in that? Even with the opportunity to switch out before the final Sixer possession in regulation, Noc remained in the game. Since Rose had been replaced by Hughes in that possession, Vinny wasn't averse to the concept completely, so he must think Nocioni is still even a passable defender. He actually hit a couple shots tonight, but on defense (and defensive rebounding, my god...) Noc is near toast. And just the way he's moving in general...if he isn't hurt he's at least worn out.
And I'll say the following with several caveats first (Deng's not having a good start to the season, I mentioned his disappearance in this game's 2nd half, he's not being paid like a franchise player but definitely like a very important player): isn't it significant that Vinny sat Luol Deng for the last 4.5 minutes of regulation and the entire overtime? I know with a mismatched roster that some rotation decisions are always going to be head-scratchers (Noah starting but always on the fast-track to the doghouse, for one). But benching Luol for the worst defender on the roster (and one who's gassed) shouldn't be one. I'll be curious to see if this is made out to be a big deal.
That last rant on Vinny wasn't meant to read that significant. It's his first overtime, he stunk it up, his team made him look worse by running no real offense. The more important time of this game was the 48 minutes of crap beforehand.
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Man...TT must have had a great 1st half
cuz I olnly caught the end of the 3rd and beg. of the 4th. What i saw was the same player that cant finish plays, (layups!), does dumb travels and chargings…anyways, enuff bashing (I own a TT shirt jersey, so I have a great degree of hope)…my question is: Is his hands small? (pause) Seriously…they are times when he tries to dunk and the ball falls out of his hands. I think he has small hands. Anybody wanna get a measuring tape?
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by Belize on Dec 2, 2008 11:23 PM CST 0 recs
Ah....
That’s the Tyson Chandler syndrome…
The only cure is learning how to play with a great point guard.
by kidronmusic on
Dec 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST
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Quick! Trade Tyrus for P.J. Brown!
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on
Dec 2, 2008 11:32 PM CST
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Don't forget...
If your going to get PJ Brown, then you should also get a tall, sweet shooting young two guard that we can send to Denver for nothing….
(not that JR Smith is great, just that he’s better than nothing)
by kidronmusic on
Dec 2, 2008 11:34 PM CST
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two second rounders
you needed those to trade up for Thabo. And, er…Omer Asik (I forget the other transaction).
J.R. is pretty much nothing still. He just told the press him and Karl need to talk more.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 2, 2008 11:37 PM CST
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Yeah...
But then again, Thabo isn’t on my list of great players right now… and obviously the verdict hasn’t come in on Omer…
In fact, not that it’s Thabo’s fault, but I remember reports that John Paxon liked Thabo so much, that he decided against drafting Brandon Roy at #2 and decided to take Tyrus instead, thinking that Thabo, paired with Gordon, would be a perfect solution at the 2.
I would rather have Brandon Roy than Tyrus, Thabo, and Gordon right now.
by kidronmusic on
Dec 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST
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yeah...
that makes sense… and I would rather have Rose…
But, I really wanted Paxon to take Roy in that draft, and was very against him taking anybody else…
So, Roy is definitely the one that got away for me…
by kidronmusic on
Dec 2, 2008 11:52 PM CST
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Preach!
Rose > Any cat named Roy or affiliated with Drexler’s bum squad
grrrr
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by Belize on
Dec 2, 2008 11:56 PM CST
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No one was even thinking of drafting Roy at #2
It was Aldridge or Thomas.
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by Ozzie Montana on
Dec 2, 2008 11:53 PM CST
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There were plenty of people....
That thought a tall shooting guard who played both sides of the ball well and had the most solid game in the draft was worth the #2 pick.
It would have been a blow to Ben Gordon’s ego, but he ended up coming off the bench anyhow.
And we did need a PF, but to me, Roy was the best player available, and he did fit a need.
by kidronmusic on
Dec 2, 2008 11:57 PM CST
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We didn't really need a PF.
We had Chandler…who was a natural PF before being converted to Center…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on
Dec 3, 2008 12:01 AM CST
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I dunno, maybe I'm lost
But didn’t the Bulls have this “inside scoring” need since 2006? No Curry, Sweets wasn’t panning out, and Chandler was showing that his true potential was a rebounding/defensive guy who could get 8-10 points off of putbacks. Aldridge and Thomas both had the potential to solve the inside scoring need, while Roy was a great college player I don’t think anyone was too pissed with the Hinrich/Gordon/Duhon trio at that point.
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by Ozzie Montana on
Dec 3, 2008 12:06 AM CST
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Maybe we should invest in a good
offensive coach…ala Pat Ewing. He did wonders for Yao (until he left) and Howard..imagine what he could do for gray (?)
"That’s the reason why you are on the court—to take someone’s heart." - Air Force One
by Belize on
Dec 3, 2008 12:08 AM CST
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oooooOOOooo
"That’s the reason why you are on the court—to take someone’s heart." - Air Force One
by Belize on
Dec 3, 2008 1:06 AM CST
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great!
wait, he’s not a coach?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 3, 2008 9:34 AM CST
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I've been saying
that on this site for months now . Ewing in the Berto center would do wonders for our big men. How could Tyrus/Noah NOT listen to the man?
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by Ugh It Live! on
Dec 3, 2008 9:55 AM CST
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I thought though
too that ROy had ankle injury concerns and injury concerns in general all over him draft night and that’s why he slipped a bit.
I also know remember from the online reports that Roy was at least in a later discussion as the Bulls pick—and I don’t have a link, but remember seeing him on the draft pick boards and the verbage around them at least a few weeks before the draft….
At the time I thought that was crazy with LMA and Tyrus Thomas….especially after Tyrus was awesome in that tournament.
Who knows though, I still have a glimmer of T2 hope.
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 8:07 AM CST
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The call for Roy was tiny...
Just as many people thought we should draft Adam Morrison. Where are those people at?
In the draft, some work out and some don’t. The only real decision was Tyrus or LMA.
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 12:01 PM CST
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I for one
Bought into that Morrison hype….I don’t tend to watch too much college ball at all, and I just bought into the talk that he would be an elite scorer, though poor defender…
I thought perhaps having another scorer with what at the time was nice D in Wallace, Chandler, etc would have been nice instead of getting another offensive liability.
I was more for Tyrus at the time, but if Tyrus was gone I thought perhaps Morrison wouldn’t be a bad option.
I did think LMA took too many nights off in college (he’s a guy I watched a few times and I thought that was a concern when he wasn’t being paid)…..and I bought into the Kirk-Ben guard lineup a bit too much like the rest of Chicago.
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 12:08 PM CST
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lol
“I was more for Tyrus at the time, but if Tyrus was gone I thought perhaps Morrison wouldn’t be a bad option.”
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on
Dec 3, 2008 12:42 PM CST
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The honesty is appreciated
While we’re at it….
I thought the Bulls were dumb for passing on Beasley.
Not that I was unhappy with Rose, just thought a scoring big was very important to this team.
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 12:56 PM CST
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A scoring big is still imortant to the team...
We just couldn’t pass on a rare talent like Rose.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on
Dec 3, 2008 2:27 PM CST
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I know but it's not like Beasley wasn't a talent too.
I said if I was an expansion team and had nothing I would take Rose. But this team could potentially make a big leap with an elite scoring big. Hindsight at 20/20, I didn’t see a Hinrich injury, Deng/others regression etc. that showed this team needed a lot more work than anticipated.
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 4:01 PM CST
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I was all for Rose
But I was nervous after the less than impressive summer league.
I’m totally fine with Rose making me look like a dipshit though :)
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by Ozzie Montana on
Dec 3, 2008 2:31 PM CST
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JR is still a scorer.
He basically puts up Ben Gordon like numbers per minute…of course he is a head case who doesn’t talk to his coach, so he is not a Pax type guy.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on
Dec 2, 2008 11:54 PM CST
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yeah
But JR did that on a team that featured 2 other real big time scorers and at least some inside presence….
You can’t compare those stats, but JR on a team without any offensive strengths (Bulls last year) and I would bet his numbers would be far worse than Gordons…
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 8:04 AM CST
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Those are career numbers, not just last season.
Because last season JR Smith was a better shooter and scorer…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on
Dec 3, 2008 8:51 AM CST
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Again
JR Smith has played much of his time with 2 all league scorers…
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 10:10 AM CST
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If JR Smith was so great
why did not one offer him a contract? He was a restricted free agent and the Nuggets were desperate to unload salaries. Any reasonable offer would have caused them to pull back. Instead they got him pretty cheap (3/16.5mm).
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 12:03 PM CST
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well that's not entirely fair
because of restricted free agency. I mean Ben Gordon didn’t…(recognizes who he’s replying to)…nevermind.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 3, 2008 12:41 PM CST
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plus
i think that deal is pretty fair for JR.. maybe a little more… but ben is worth more than JR also, and i’m not a huge ben fan.
by Jaina on
Dec 3, 2008 12:44 PM CST
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Based on JR's numbers and age
He deserved way more. Something around Noc’s contract.
It’s only a fair deal because it’s a compromise of his talent vs. behavior. It’s only 3 years for a reason.
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 1:00 PM CST
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Big difference
Gordon signed the 1 yr tender. Bulls offered him 6/55 or whatever. No one offered Smith a contract. He settled for 3 years and 38.5 million less than Gordon’s turned down contract.
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 1:01 PM CST
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I think your right
Besides. Does any GM want to be the guy that has to say “I got outbid for JR Smith”?
In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on
Dec 3, 2008 1:27 PM CST
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Yeah
I’m happy we traded JR Smith and that he’s not on our team (he just constantly has issues with coaches, and while I could see that a bit with George Karl, I haven’t heard as much with Byron Scott—other than Jason Kidd didn’t like Scott—not anything new there with Kidd either)….
But JR Smith had a lot more value than the garbage we got for him, and then the release of that garbage to lock in and dramatically overpay for the absolute shite that was Adrian Griffin….
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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yeah, but so what
really, that’s down my list of Pax mistakes. If he could’ve gotten more for Smith, he would’ve. Apparently that was pretty close to his value.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 3, 2008 9:35 AM CST
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I don't think Pax tried very hard to get value for Smith
he dumped him almost as soon as he got him. He didn’t want him… at all.
by fundamentallysound on
Dec 3, 2008 10:01 AM CST
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that's true
and the urgency was because they had to get under the cap to sign A-Drain.
Yeah, it was bad. I would’ve preferred waiting until training camp at least, but I get why he wanted no part of Smith.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 3, 2008 10:27 AM CST
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if he wanted no part of Smith, then why trade for him?
I just never understood that series of deals and still don’t. Tyson Chandler for a year rental of P.J. Brown… just doesn’t make any sense. Especially because he failed to use P.J.‘s expiring contract to make any trade to make the team better (which would have made the trade justifiable because then it would have been essentially Tyson’s roster spot and cash for someone good coming back in the deal for P.J’s expiring). Pax needs to go, period.
by fundamentallysound on
Dec 3, 2008 10:39 AM CST
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they were dumping Chandler to stay under the tax
there, solved it :-)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 3, 2008 10:40 AM CST
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I agreed at the time that paying both Tyson and Wallace so much made little sense
given their similarities, but that was under the assumption that Wallace wouldn’t be toast a year into his tenure. That fact mucked up a lot of future planning, not just how Chandler was handled.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 3, 2008 10:42 AM CST
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There were
Other guys to dump than a 25 year old who proved he could do some things right.
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 10:47 AM CST
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Maybe at that immediate second
But Pax could have forced the hand to play him a bit, drove his value way up and gotten something for him….it only would have taken till the deadline.
We were pretty excited about JR’s upside as a big man to offset with Gordon when Gordon needed some air. Thabo you could tell by preseason wasn’t quite ready for a major role just yet. The org could have been honest with Thabo and told him it was temporary to get his footing….
That move is very high on my list of Pax mistakes (that and the PJ Brown move of getting a nice expiring contract and then not trading that contract when PJ bitched about his role early and played like crap for us….he had value too as an expring contract and we had need with him going away, Sweets not working out, Wallace slowing (even though it was a bit, we knew he was slowing) and Tyrus looking a ways away from being consistent…..
That was a shame….
That double move is my #1 Pax mistake, since the Wallace signing both wasn’t seen to go so bad so quickly at the time and was virtually saved by the Gooden/Hughes trade that Pax pulled out of his ass.
I know we missed on Brandon Roy and LMA, and that’s frustrating, but Tyrus still has some upside potential, so who knows….
I also know that the inability to make a trade is there (That’s probably #1 but that stems with the PJ Brown trade too)…
I don’t fault the Hinrich signing, since at the time that was a steal, and Kirk would have been a nice starting PG especially in the next few years when it declines, had we not lucked out with Derrick Rose.
The Nocioni signing…it’s too high for a bench player, but Noc is better than he’s played the past 5-6 games and while it’s ridiculous for a team with needs at the 4-5 spot that were apparent back then to pay for a luxury….we were on the up when we signed him, and it didn’t look bad.
If Luol doesn’t get back to his form and if Ben goes, that will quickly be the #1 blunder….and I’ve always said my point that Ben was more valuable to us. Luol has a lot of the tools, and stats in the past, but Ben has been our threat in the past when in tough situations and has been the closest to a leader pre Rose….had we had inside presence BG would look even better….and that’s not new to my view based on these 18 games or so this year….I’ve said that in the past. Of course it sounds easier to gloat when Luol’s having his worst career stretch, and that’s not my intention, I just think we should have made a case to keep Ben as his scoring punch is a bit more of a need on an offensive starved group than an at beast 9th-11th SF in the league who wouldn’t ever get past that spot with newer guys quickly getting better than him (Deng’s not there yet, but he’ll be back to form at some point).
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 10:46 AM CST
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i actually think his problem
is he needs one more dribble before jumping. he jumps from pretty far then loses it…
by Jaina on
Dec 3, 2008 7:43 AM CST
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good news guys
I sacrificed BigWay after scanning the game thread. So…I don’t know, good fortunes for all and all that.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 2, 2008 11:26 PM CST 0 recs
The Gods tell me you have to sacrifice something good to be rewarded.
De gustibus non est disputandum
by Sports2 on
Dec 3, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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well, I'm pretty screwed if that's true.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
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I'm sure he's perfecting his anti BG rhetoric in front of a mirror now
Getting a tattoo of Jerry Sloan on his chest.
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by Ozzie Montana on
Dec 3, 2008 1:51 PM CST
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hmm....
Are you happy with the season?
We are 8-10….nobody predicted we would have 8 wins after the road trip.
I guess we’re not that bad. I can see us string a couple of wins together
But yeah, this team mentally, aside from Rose, is extremely fragile and weak. Gordon and Nocionis going back to their chucking. It drove me insane.
If I was Rose I’d literally lose my mind already
by Half-Life on Dec 2, 2008 11:27 PM CST 0 recs
I am.
I’m actually really happy with this season. The only thing that really mattered was that Rose developed, and clearly, he is ahead of schedule.
Plus, this is the most fun I’ve had watching the Bulls in a decade. Again, just because of Rose.
And yeah, our record is better than I thought, and I can only assume that Deng and Thomas, in particular, will get better at playing with Rose, so I see us as a team on the rise. Plus, we get Kirk back, who, at the very least, is somebody better than Hughes to come off the bench.
by kidronmusic on
Dec 2, 2008 11:32 PM CST
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Totally agree,
this season has gone better than expected and Rose has been incredible, but now that we know he’s good it would be nice to see some sort of nucleus begin to form around him. Maybe BG, but he’s probably gone. Other than that it’s kinda scary how our roster is beginning to shape up.
by Juiceboxjerry on
Dec 2, 2008 11:39 PM CST
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I'm not happy with the season
I’m even less happy with people saying they’re happy.
I’m happy they’ve won enough to stay around .500. I’m not content with it though, this team looks too bad too often. And I get that they’re young and Vinny got the coaching job due to an essay contest, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out when it stinks.
I’m not unhappy either, just don’t get the feelings out there that this is ok. There’s some real problems with the team.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Dec 2, 2008 11:36 PM CST
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I think that's the weird part.
Their record is actually pretty good. Not that 8-10 is good, but they’ve played the leagues toughest schedule and they’ve had no “bad losses” (I pretend like Portland never happened). But watching them, there isn’t much to be excited about other than Rose. None of the players are developing and you get the sense they’re just running in place. No one seems to even be improving.
by CJ Bulls on
Dec 3, 2008 12:09 PM CST
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im with you (kinda)
I have a nightmare that Rose is gonna get so accustomed to “shooting first” that his passing skills wont grow with him…..
btw…(left field) I just realized that the only PG that has some skills like Rose is (GASP!) —> Marbury
***shudders***
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by Belize on
Dec 2, 2008 11:42 PM CST
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Good eye Belize!
I was just going to point that out. This kid isnt developing into a pass first pg like CP3 or DWILL he’s going right down the same road as Marbury. I totally blame Paxson for not at least trying to put the right people around him.
Ill wait and see the final results (hoping he doesnt) but it doesnt look good right now. This kid leads our team in scoring for the season and dam near every night. Not to mention i notice he’s more prone to pull up now instead of attack the basket. Bad sign if he falls in love with that questionable J. Maybe though it was all due to circumstances. well see
BTW does anyone here think VDN knows about back pick lobs? My gosh..
Deng sucks! We got reemed on that deal!
VDN Rode Noc and the final 5 way to long (mostly Noc).
I was actually hoping he would bring the artist formally known as deng back in during overtime.
by Bulls4Ever on
Dec 3, 2008 9:23 AM CST
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i don't like marbury
so i don’t mean to really defend him, but the guy is a near 20 ppg and 8 apg for his career (16 and 8 as a rookie). you can’t really say he doesn’t pass. all his numbers really declined the past several years anyway. rose is about at 19 and 6 right now. i don’t think rose won’t improve on his passing game, considering how hard he likes to work.
i certainly don’t want to see rose turning out like steph in terms of attitude, but that’s nothing to sneeze at. there’s a certain style that marbury plays with that’s offputting, and i don’t think rose will do that, but we’ll see i guess. i get the impression the guy knows when he needs to score and when he needs to dish. in the second championship at simeon didn’t he score only 2 pts or something?
by Jaina on
Dec 3, 2008 9:33 AM CST
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yeah
Marbury’s issues typically don’t stem from his play, they are from his leadership abilities….and his wanting to always be the man. Derrick already has the respect and leadership qualities his veteran players love.
End of story, plus Derrick doesn’t seem as unreasonably nuts as Marbury or have as much ego (not gloating on that sick crossover on Miller for one when prodded to do just that by the media, that’s a great sign).
by majoyenrac on
Dec 3, 2008 10:49 AM CST
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I thought Marbury was an arrogant jerk
at his press conference announcing he was going to play at Georgia Tech (yeah, the generic hat over the GT hat stunt annoyed me greatly).
by Granny Waiters on
Dec 5, 2008 2:35 AM CST
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Steve Levy of ESPN snuck in a little commentary on Marbury the other night
He was doing the “Marbury from draft to now” rundown and slipped in this gem.
“Marbury was traded on draft night by the Bucks to the Timberwolves for the rights to Ray Allen. What did the Bucks know?”
Marbury was well known to be a terrific individual player, but never really did much with a team. He’s like the Skiles of players. He gets traded. The team he leaves gets better. The team receiving him gets better early, but then trails off into mediocrity. Skiles is a coach that can get fired for cheap. Marbury has the golden parachute that’s impossible to take away.
In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on
Dec 3, 2008 10:57 AM CST
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Disagree
I disagree, Rose can pass and score. But he’s scoring right now because he CAN score, whenever he wants pretty much. If you have THAT type of talent, why would you not use it when the game is on the line??
The players around him are not adjusting, they’re still stuck in the mentality of the past. They’re not used to playing with a superstar and doing their roles, that’s why everything is not falling in place right now.
Rose wants to help the team win more than anyone, so don’t say he’s another Marbury, he’s on another level. Rose is a team player, more than Gordon or Hughes or Hinrich ever will be, you can bet on that.
He just have that next level confidence when it comes to scoring.
by Half-Life on
Dec 3, 2008 1:42 PM CST
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Marbury is an amazing basketball player with an infuriating attitude
His off the court issues are what keeps him in basketball limbo. He’s selfish and only cares about his stats…..does that sound like Derrick Rose to you?
"It never is, because I'm the Shogun. And before you get to the Shogun, you gotta go through a lot of ninjas."
by Ozzie Montana on
Dec 3, 2008 1:52 PM CST
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Okay... you can point out when it stinks....
And you always do…
And often, your not wrong.
If I expected everybody to stink, and instead, I get to watch a Rookie play brilliantly, and the team win a few games…
What’s the problem with me being pleasantly surprised?
I’m even less happy with


