Bulls 103, Sixers 92: Saving the best for last on the circus trip
I taped the San Antonio game on Wednesday, but after seeing that the Bulls blew a lead and Larry Hughes played 39 minutes...decided against watching it.
Glad I didn't see it, because instead of being soured I was instead starving for red hot Bulls action after a 4-day layoff (I guess technically the circus trip was over already). And after a slow start, the Bulls put in their best game of the season in this blowout of the Sixers.
Drew Gooden was spectacular and outplayed Elton Brand, not only hitting jumpers but scoring in a variety of ways inside. It was crucial early as he was the only one providing offense (rough start from who's usually in charge of the scoring, Ben Gordon) in an otherwise terrible first quarter.
Derrick Rose closed out the half in spectacular fashion, and after he and Gooden were joined by a reheated Gordon in a 33-11 third quarter beatdown, the game was in control.
Nearly everyone played well: Tyrus Thomas had a solid first-half stint, and Vinny rewarded him (that's cred to Vinny, though I'd actually prefer entitlement minutes instead of reward minutes) with more in the 2nd. Noah got the start and while his conditioning issues are more annoying by the game, he at least was active when he wasn't wheezing. Even Larry Hughes had a good game, showing good shot selection in going 4-6 from three, putting the game out of reach as the Sixers didn't show much care in closing out on shooters in general.
I don't think it's bad fandom to expect not only victories but victories with the way I want them, and this just felt like a more meaningful win than the others on the circus trip. And especially nice to see, considering the growing consensus that this team's non-terrible record was enough to be content even though it's been mostly terrible (non-Rose) basketball.
But after a game where Rose is (once again) sensational, the other scorers are not just playing alongside him but with him, the young bigs don't stink (and Nocioni's abandoned when showing he doesn't have it), Hughes and Gray don't start (though Gray was the 6th man...rotation can never be perfect I guess)...
...I'm now very excited for some easy stretches of schedule.
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I was also happy about Hughes's shot selection
Most of his three-point attempts came from good ball movement. I can live with that.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 30, 2008 10:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hughes has moved past Nocioni and Deng in my own
personal dog house. He has been playing better and he has talent he just needs to learn when to shoot and when not to. I have to say another guy who’s play has picked up is Aaron Gray.
Really what is wrong with Nocioni? It seemed like he had 4 fouls right when he checked into the game. God Pax please trade him.
I think BG is starting to figure it out that Rose takes care of the ball and he just has to shoot the open 3. Hope the keep BG.
I think Tyrus and Noah might be starting to understand Rose will get them the ball when they fill the gaps in the defense.
by ImmanuelKant on Nov 30, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Noc can't guard Iguodala one on one
He certainly cannot do it when his help defense is Aaron Gray.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and lets be honest
refs call stuff on noch, that they really wont consider calling on anyone else. its just the way things are
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by Yibs on Dec 1, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if that's true
it’s because Noc is combative with the refs in the first place
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
(it's not true, btw)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your're right
Noc complains every decison the refs make
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by bull83 on Dec 1, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but really dont all guys argue calls over the refs
even guys like kobe do it a lot, when they clearly know that the refs arent gonna foul em out in the first place. i admit noch takes it to the top, but i see guys do it all the time. and while we’re on it, why is joe crawford still in the league? wat was up with that flagrant that noch got aganist the spurs(i think)?. dude is crooked.
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by Yibs on Dec 2, 2008 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whatevs
Noc fouls when he has to. He’s honest about the calls, but the raking arm makes it impossible to miss.
I’d be more pleased if he fouled hard and didn’t raise his hand and fouled less by moving his feet instead of complaining all the time about fouls he doesn’t admit to.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things I don't understand:
1. Why is there a constant need to rip on Aaron Gray? The guy’s a backup center, sure he’s not the fleetest of foot, but he’s done a decent enough job and when you’re as thin up front as we are I don’t see the problem with him getting some pt.
2. In this post you said Tyrus should be entitled to minutes. Why? What is wrong with playing him when he deserves to be out there? Especially now that this team has proven that it can compete at a reasonably high level every night. Do you think VDN wants to see him fail or something, I think it’s obvious he wants Tyrus to take control. To me it’s getting old. HE HAS NOT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY! When he GETS BETTER, he will play.
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 30, 2008 11:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree the Gray ripping seems contrived.
He is getting better and he’s actually been a force in some games in the middle for us.
by Playboy_Bull on Nov 30, 2008 11:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude he lost a shit ton of weight.
I liked Gray from day one. Big guys just take time. The funny thing is he can score and has a nice touch yet everyone keeps ignoring the fact that he’s getting better and he provides low post scoring. Hey some is better than none.
by ImmanuelKant on Dec 1, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He lost 30lbs. Trust me, for a guy that size, you can dump that much in the first 2 weeks of a diet
All he did was stop eating after 8 and cut out soda and sports drinks
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by snley on Dec 1, 2008 8:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a start and a lot more than some.
Look, if only Sweetney or Curry had THAT much disciple, they might be still playing significate minutes. You have to start somewhere and to me, Gray looks like he wants it.
by Unrealcity on Dec 1, 2008 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Bulls should bring Sweetney and Curry back
as part of the Matadors!
by Granny Waiters on Dec 1, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ripping him is certainly contrived
he shouldn’t be mentioned at all.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because, at least four times he's been a "starting center" and that's just ridiculous.
Besides, they’ll probably give him a 5-year deal worth $3million/year soon.
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by tyger1147 on Dec 1, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or, in that highlight of Rose...
…his ridiculous staring down of Andre Miller after Miller got crossed-over. Yeah, Aaron, you’re bad. You play w/ a point GOD so you should stare down players. Sheesh.
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by tyger1147 on Dec 1, 2008 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Oh, Aaron. Big man. Please don’t do that.
I was watching the Philly broadcast, so about all they said was, “nice crossover by Rose, Miller must’ve slipped” and then quickly cut to commercial break. :)
Aaron Gray staring someone down? Hilarious.
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by MPG on Dec 1, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My reaction is a little over the top...
…and if Miller was talking shit about stopping Rose all game, saying something to him is certainly acceptable, but still… it was funny.
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by tyger1147 on Dec 1, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked how Miller was smiling going in for the lay in.
Even when you watched the ESPN highlight the guy says to be fair Miller did slip a little. Which happened after he got his ankles broke.
by ImmanuelKant on Dec 1, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Juicebox,
Both of the points you posted have more to do with management’s failures and poor coaching decisions than the individuals involved.
Aaron Gray is a slow and plodding backup center who simply goes in and does his job. That’s good.
But Bulls coaches give him starters’ minutes, where he is exposed as a slow and plodding backup. Why do the coaches do this? Because they have utterly failed to develop other young bigs Tyrus and Noah, two guys for whom the starting jobs are there for the taking.
So management has failed to either develop these guys or has failed to properly assess their talent. Management has also apparently refused to give Bulls coaches the edict to play Noah and Tyrus a set number of minutes.
These failiures also fall upon the coaches themselves, since they should be developing the two young bigs on a day to day basis.
And of course Noah and Tyrus themselves have been utter failures, especially Noah, who seems to have regressed considerably after playing a couple of really good stretches last year.
So my thought is that the way this all gets expressed is by complaining about the fact that Aaron Gray is a slow, plodding backup. And that Tyrus isn’t getting minutes. When in fact it’s more complicated than that.
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by bullhockey on Dec 1, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
though I simplified it because the complicated aspect I’ve talked about plenty of times to the point where I thought I didn’t need to repeat it every single game.
I suppose if I just didn’t mention Gray, then nobody in the comments would mention Gray either? “hey, that Aaron Gray is looking pretty good!” (no, he’s not, and if he did, who cares?). If I could get that promise in return I’d stop the ‘bashing’.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gray did put up better numbers than Dalembert,
at 1/24th the salary.
Can we write “Aaron Gray played up to his mediocre talent against the 76ers”?
by Granny Waiters on Dec 1, 2008 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
have you read this blog before?
It’s important that Thomas becomes good, so he should be given (given!) minutes. Gray already stinks and won’t get any better. He’s fine as the backup center when facing beheamoths. I agree that our big rotation is thin so he needs to play a bit more than he should, but he’s severely limited and is a long-term killer.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what you're trying to say when you ask, "have I read this blog before?"
So let me get this straight, “it’s important that Tyrus becomes good, so he should be given minutes”. Do you think that at one point it was important to the Pistons that Darko Milicic got better? Well sure, but it was never gonna happen. I could read this blog all day, every day and I would never agree with the rationale that, after almost two and a half years of showing zero growth as a basketball player Tyrus Thomas deserves to play simply because of where he was drafted. Yesterday he played well, so he kept playing. It should stay like that until he can show he can contribute every day.
As for Aaron Gray, I totally understand that you’re writing a Bulls blog and people like Aaron gray are gonna garner a lot of attention on here. I guess I just don’t feel he should be subjected to your wrath so often. Bullhockey said it perfectly, that these are management and coaching issues, not Aaron Gray issues. He’s not playing that much, when he does, I think he does a halfway decent job. The guy was a second round pick and should probably be given credit for turning himself into a rotation player, rather than being reviled.
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 1, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i was trying to say
I’ve been pretty incessant (to a fault, most likely) about this topic.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do not see Gray being a long term killer,
unless Pax foolishly pays him more than the minimum salary or VdN plays him more than 12 minutes once the Bulls get a real starting center (possibly an improved Noah).
by Granny Waiters on Dec 1, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant long term in a single game
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Smith wins quote of the day
“I thought Hughes didn’t want to shoot in the first half when he came in, going more than six minutes without even attempting a shot. So I figured an imposter was in his uniform and called security.”
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by chibullsfan03 on Dec 1, 2008 12:01 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
"...Not just playing alongside [Rose], but with him"
I think that’s the big point here: even in games they’ve won, they’ve never played so cohesively. Last night everybody – from Noah to Gordon to Hughes – played within their roles, and it was awesome to watch.
There were two other reasons for our success I thought were cool:
1. We ran a play to break the stupid trap-Rose-at-halfcourt thingy. We brought a cutter to the top of the key and got layups, made an easy entry pass, then naileded wide-open three pointers and in general just killed them. Kudus to VDN and Co. for recognizing what teams were doing and implementing a counter during the 3 day layoff. Secondly, VDN used his timeouts well. After the 1st-quarter lapse in transition D he called a timeout and fixed it; ditto in the 4th, when Philly crawled to within 14 and there was a slight hint of a momentum shift. I’ve ragged on VDN more than most, but he did a good job tonight, and it was great to see.
2. Defense. Noah was actually great against Brand while his conditioning allowed – frustrating him, blocking a shot, and making quick rotations on the interior. Ben Gordon showed once again that he’s not the bad defender he was during his first two years. The 6’6 Andre Igudala managed all of 3/9 with 4 TOs. And after the first few minutes the transition D improved in general.
Players in their roles? Coaching? Defense?
Good stuff.
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by MPG on Dec 1, 2008 7:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah it was very interesting
that somehow the tall Iggy couldn’t manhandle shrimpy Ben Gordon.
I think he had one successful post-up, while Gordon ate him alive in the 3rd quarter. This whole season Gordon’s rarely been consistently abused, and it’s because SGs don’t exactly have reliable post-up games….and Gordon’s not as hopeless on defense as some suggest.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Body movin, body movin
Ben’s moving those feet so there’s little space for the SGs to penetrate. Make them shoot and it’s good defense. if they make em, big whoop. We want them shooting them from 12’ and out and not from 2’ and in.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been impressed by Ben's D
the last few weeks. Unfortunately it’s a contract year so it’s tough to judge if his newfound commitment is sincere. I hope so.
by CJ Bulls on Dec 1, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's certainly a possibility
with anybody in a contract year. However – he’s improved steadily throughout his career on defense, and he’s always been a hard worker…so I’m not really worried about Ben’s effort in the coming years. I’m worried about where he’ll be playing them.
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by MPG on Dec 1, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't buy into the whole contract year
equals better/higher scoring. Because if someone could score more, why wouldn’t they? But as for defense, it’s much more of an effort thing.
As almost every Ben Gordon argument on here goes, he gets knocked down for his size and defense. I’m assuming in the negotiations those are the two biggest factors for him not making the same money Deng is. Gordon can’t fix his height, but his defensive effort is the one thing left under his control. That’s why I feel the Bulls should be skeptical.
Even if it were true, maybe BG can realize by playing defense he will be able to start and play more minutes thus permanently adjusting into a competent (if not above average) defender.
by CJ Bulls on Dec 1, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ben knows that he has to play better defensively
so the only thing that can keep him off the court is Vinny and 8 minutes of blow.
If fouls keep him off the floor he can’t shoot his way into the big money.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of Ben's D improvement
is stemming fromt he fact that Ben doesn’t need to devote as much energy on offense…..
He no longer is the guy with the ball 80% of the second half trying to get something going playing with 3 guys on him while the others stand around, not move and watch….
Having Rose to lead the offense has opened up Ben to pick and choose his times to shine on offense and focus more on the defensive end…..
The contract year helps of course, but only to a degree….
by majoyenrac on Dec 2, 2008 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There could be some truth to that
I think Rose/Gordon while not in sync, do take pressure off each other by their ability to score with the ball. Gordon can take an offensive posession off by camping at the 3pt line while Rose draws attention/makes plays.
by CJ Bulls on Dec 2, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well, if it works as an excuse for Hinrich...
why not :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 2, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope that rumor is false
about Ben wanting to take the 6yr/55 mil deal and it not being out there to take anymore.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh, no kidding
that’d be a bargain the way he’s playing.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd only add that
per Matt’s comment above, these guys are not Jordan or Adrian Dantley on the low post. Or even Mark Jackson. Those guys all had extremely reliable post games. This is Andre Iguodala, a guy who’s shown flashes of athleticism, but whom I don’t recall ever having that much success posting up. (I think he’s also scoring less per game than Deng, which is interesting.)
I actually wonder if the “no-hand-check” era has spoiled perimeter guys with easy scoring so that the low post game is no longer something they work on.
Also, Ben is nowhere near the tran wreck on defense that Pax / Reinsdorf want us to believe in advance of them letting him walk for nothing.
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by bullhockey on Dec 1, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy has the game
He’s older than these guys though. MJ didn’t work on the post up game extensively until he realized that his age required stronger legs and stronger legs was going to keep him at a high level so he might as well use the legs for the post game.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Scott Skiles was the guy who lead us to believe Ben couldn’t play any D…
Paxson obviously wanted to keep Ben, which is the biggest reason why a sign and trade deal never materialized.
Reinsdorf wants us to play under the luxury tax, which is why Ben didn’t get a $70M contract offer……
Paxson unfortunately it seems chose Luol Deng over Ben Gordon, but wo be it….
by majoyenrac on Dec 2, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No Ben led us to believe that
by not playing D for a few years.
by CJ Bulls on Dec 2, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One bad game by an opposing player does not make Gordon a good defender
He is still as awful as he ever has been.
Just try watching him instead of the box score.
You don’t understand the game of basketball from reading box scores.
To prove my point check out 82games. com. Rose has the highest total negative +/- and Nocioni has the highest positive total +/-. So much for pure stats.
by BigWay on Dec 1, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So much for being objective
By your great logic, Andre Iguodola should have destroyed Gordon, since he is as awful as ever. However, the only time Iguodola got in the paint was when Nocioni guarded him. I saw lots of energy from BG defensively, something he doesn’t always bring. BG is looking like an average defender so far, and that’s a good sign.
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by Ozzie Montana on Dec 1, 2008 7:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not one bad game by an opposing player,
it’s a series of solid defensive games by Gordon. Games which I’ve watched.
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by MPG on Dec 1, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure how that was measured in box score stats in the first place
But far be it from me to question BigTurd.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I take that back
we were using the opponent’s box score stats. But you could watch the games too and get the same conclusion. I’m serious BigTurd, I watched them. (OK, not the San Antonio one.)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so much for pure stats
but a win for pure douchery!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BG is probably stronger
than Iggy.
by Granny Waiters on Dec 1, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Philly: 5 ORebs in the 1st quarter, 6 ORebs in the last 3 quarters
The shooting really caught up to the Sixers, but the good news was the shots were from 12’ and beyond. They had almost no attempts at the rim in the 2nd half. The interior defense was superb. Thanks Elton Brand.
I’d love to see that 3 quarters of defense for 4 quarters every night. We’d be very hard to beat that way.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 9:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love
to see any defense from our club….remember when we used to pride ourselves on being the best defensive team int he league 2 short years ago….now we’re amongst the worst….but yesterday’s game and hopefully the tapes should show the guys that they can still play lock down D, and when they do, our good offensive game should lead to many wins.
by majoyenrac on Dec 1, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is like a taller...
Larry Hughes…he has played like that his entire career, but his selfish bad shots go in at a higher percentage (because they are closer) than Hughes and he somehow gets a pass as being an undersized hard worker…I am not surprised Philly is struggling with Brand, because that is the effect he has on teams…
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by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 1, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so he's like Hughes
except his shots go in. great work..
(I think he rebounds a bit better too)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you could've at least tried a Zach Randolph comparison
to better position yourself in the “I know what REALLY wins basketball games, nerds!” camp.
Next thing I know you’ll be quoting their playoff records.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We all know height is everything,
which is why Sean Bradley, Manute Bol and Gheorghe Muresan are the greatest NBA players of all time! ;)
by Granny Waiters on Dec 1, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Game
Really exciting after we just seemed to let the Spurs take over the last game that we bounced back and absolutely annihilated the 76ers after we slept through the first quarter.
Larry Hughes is actually showing some signs that perhaps he might be able to play some team ball, having taken only 1-2 stupid shots a night the past 3 straight games….hopefully he keeps that up, because when he plays a team game he can be effective.
The concerns I have are Noah’s conditioning….I mean seriously, maybe he has emphasema, because he doesn’t look horribly out of shape or anything, but 5 minutes into the game and he’s going from effective to a waste, and his transition D might just be worse than Aaron Gray’s, and Noah’s too athletic to be in that kind of a comparison.
THe other concern which is more concerning is our SF spot. A position I’ve always thought was a strength of ours with Deng and Nocioni suddenly the past few games is looking like a weakness. Deng tried to be the man early in the game last night, and that’s the point where we got killed. Thaddeus Young annihilated him, I know some of that was poor transition D when guys didn’t switch (Noah) but also Deng just hasn’t looked like Deng. He rebounded a bit int he second half, but still Luol’s got to step up.
And Andres who always played with his heart on his sleeve suddenly is playing only as a cheap shot artist…..I’m a Nocioni fan, and think he can do a lot of little things to helpt he squad, but this year and the last 2-3 games, Noc has only been out there to foul….he needs to step it up too.
Larry Hughes might end up getting more a role as a SF if this keeps up, and if we see the Larry of the last 2 games or so, that’s not awful, but if we start seeing Larry of the first 30 games as a Bull that’s devastating especially when we have 2 talented SF’s who have to bring their game every day…
Still 3-4 ain’t bad, especially when we could have and should have maybe pulled out at least 1 of the Nuggetts or Spurs games without us completely collapsing under road pressures…and getting out of our game.
by majoyenrac on Dec 1, 2008 10:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rose's crossover on miller was number 2 on ESPN plays of the week.
On a sad note Berrian’s 99 yard catch was like 6.
by ImmanuelKant on Dec 1, 2008 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
it was some college teams interception.
Went off one guys back and another guy tipped it to another guy kinda thing. Like soap in the shower.
by ImmanuelKant on Dec 1, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game by Rose & Gooden
and solid game from the rest of the cast. Tyrus and Rose appear to be at least working on some quick cuts to the basket – lets hope TT is ready for the ball the next few times they run that play.
Also, anyone see Hughes’ comments in today’s Trib about his “”http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-01-bulls-bitsdec01,0,4775233.story" >role"?
Hughes then talked about needing to accept his role, a stark contrast to his going public with his frustration at the start of the seven-game trip. Those comments prompted a meeting among Hughes, coach Vinny Del Negro and general manager John Paxson.
So Paxson is still at least trying to do what he’s paid to do.
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by Ugh It Live! on Dec 1, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Lou Holtz was at the meeting
I agree, nice to see a John Paxson sighting. Unfortunate that Hughes has that kind of clout, though. If it was Thabo, there’d just be some choice info handed to KC for a nice dig, and that’d be that.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is the highest paid player.
So I think he has clout by default…it was interesting in KC’s mailbag that he said the team was making a conscious effort not to lose Larry Hughes…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 1, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand it
just sucks that it’s the way it works.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 1, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
If Hughes does indeed by in to the TEAM concept he can be a real strength for us….I know he hasn’t bought into a team concept in forever, but those comments and his last 2-3 games….who knows….it’s a stark contrast from the Larry “un-Legend” we’ve come to know and loathe.
by majoyenrac on Dec 2, 2008 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Pax brought some Successories(TM) motivational materials
to the meeting.
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by bullhockey on Dec 1, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
luol deng anyone?
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
by Yibs on Dec 1, 2008 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Deng
I was at the Dallas which was Deng’s best game of the year. He did a great jpob on Nowitski defensively and seemed to have the focus of 2006-07 back in his eyes. Last night was his third game back from injury, and he may not be completely healthy yet. He’s got a bigger adjustment than anyone to Rose’s game because of his cutting style. I see both he and Rose adjusting game by game. I think he’ll be fine if he stays healthy. I have far less confidence in the progress of Thomas and Noah.
by El Toro de Goro on Dec 1, 2008 12:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Rose block on Miller was a key.
Even though Philly scored on that posession it sent a message – “I will do anything for the Bulls to win this game”. I thought it energized the Bulls and they went on to a 19 point lead. This kid is terrific!!!
It seemed like most of the other players were finally getting it that Rose will get you the ball. If Tyrus and Noah figure this out we may have something special here. I do not know if this was a Gooden freak game but he was the inside presence we have been looking for (at least for this road trip). I am really looking forward to see if this can continue tomorrow.
by chgobr on Dec 1, 2008 2:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think we saw what the Bulls would look like
with a post-presence. Drew Gooden won’t play like that every night, because if he did, he’d be a star instead of an above average player. But I agree with you on the key point – BG and Larry gave the ball up to Rose and let him make the decisions. That it had such a good result (for BG and LH) bodes well!
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by MPG on Dec 1, 2008 2:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I loved that play
Felt like watching Don Beebe chase down Leon Lett.
In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Dec 1, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just watched the game after avoiding the score for a complete day
I keep thinking this is the best game of the year to watch but then I think of the Warriors game and then the Jazz game . . . etc etc.
This kid is really making the Bulls hella fun to watch again. It’s come to the point where they are of interest to the rest of the NBA again.
Opposing cities are definitely going to start paying top dollar to watch Pooh do his thing.
I can’t stop smiling after that game I just watched.
This whilst being sick as fuck. I think I’ll watch it again.
by Option27 on Dec 1, 2008 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Holy f****** sh***.
I missed the Philly game because I had to work. So I hadn’t seen the Rose crossover until I followed the link in this thread.
Wow. Sweet merciful demi-gods of the lower joints, please have mercy on dear Miller’s liga-soultendon.
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by 1958ChiTown on Dec 1, 2008 4:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Strongest win of the year
and I like the way this Bulls team is competing right now. They’ll have the occassional and they’ll look like a trainwreck more often than may be tolerable, but they’re winning games and at a frequency that I did not anticipate this early in the season. My only explanation is that Rose is much better earlier in the season than I conservatively projected (though I did forecast a 17.5/ 6.5/ 4.5 overall season for him).
I think Deng will come around. I think BG will be there all year. Gooden I’m not too sure about, but I’m bullish on the Bulls.
by messwiththebull on Dec 1, 2008 6:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This stuff is hilarious
“I just did a move and he fell,” Rose said of the crossover. “I’ve done that before, but that was the first time it happened in a game. I just thought it was a regular play.”
“I didn’t watch SportsCenter last night,” Gordon said. “We saw it this morning, though, before we got out to practice. We watched it about four or five times. Slow motion.”
by Option27 on Dec 1, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious! :) And here's a link to the video,
though I’m sure someone probably has already posted it:
Link Stacey King and Tom Dore were actually being funny, showing some good chemistry in their running commentary…
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on Dec 1, 2008 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I mean Neil Funk
Or whoever…
"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris
by bullhockey on Dec 1, 2008 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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