Game Preview #17 - Chicago Bulls at Philadelphia 76ers
[Thanks to BigBenign for today's game preview -ed.]
The essentials:
Game time: 4 PM
Channel: CSN [Note by ed.: it's also on NBATV]
Bulls: 7-9, 2-7 on the road
Sixers: 7-9, 5-3 at home
The lineups:
Bulls: Rose, Gordon, Deng!!, Gooden, Noah.
Sixers: Miller, Iguodala, Young, Brand, Dalembert.
The match-ups:
Deng is back in the starting lineup, which means that somebody had to be bumped back to the bench. Thankfully, despite the obvious mismatch at the 2, VDN has opted to go with BG over Hughes. This could’ve been ugly, but credit Vinny with a good decision here. Though I suspect we’ll still be seeing plenty of Hughes as well. This will be a key match-up, as Iguodala has been struggling mightily so far this season. Will he get in a rhythm against Gordon?
The other obvious headache is Elton Brand. He hasn’t exactly been performing well, shooting a career low 45%, a full 5 points off his average. But there’s nothing like a visit from the Bulls to cure what ails you! Brand will no doubt abuse us down low, though don’t be surprised if it’s the athletic Dalembert who really goes off, taking advantage of our undisciplined bigs’ help D.
The spiel:
Siiiggghhhh, so many possible angles! Do I discuss the battle of Bulls #1 overall picks? The ongoing Deng v. Iguodala debate? Well…I guess I just mentioned them, so on to other matters.
For all practical purposes, the circus trip is over. While 2-4 is hardly a moral victory, especially after the Portland debacle, it’s not exactly a failure either. Rose has proven he can compensate for the often-inconsistent play of his teammates, and his ability to carry the team is already established. What has also been established is the Bulls’ utter lack of production in the frontcourt, and the often-painful substitution patterns VDN has been forced (in my opinion) into as a result.
Enter the Sixers. For some odd reason, of late the Blazers keep being compared to the Bulls. Yes, they both have collections of young, lottery talent. However, that is really where the similarities end. The Sixers, by contrast, have far more in common with our beloved Bulls. In fact, as little as a year ago, the Sixers and Bulls were oft-compared. They both had talented, promising wing players in Iggy and Deng, were athletic, liked to run, had no true star-player, and were both in youth movements.
The Sixers, it seemed, were following the Bulls blueprint to mediocrity success. They even squeezed into the playoffs, but then fizzled, as we’ve seen the Bulls do so many times. The difference, which takes me back to my point, lies in their prized off-season acquisition of Elton Brand. He is the source of all optimism in Philadelphia. Nevermind that he was once a Bull himself; he is what separates the Bulls and the Sixers. He makes 7-9 seem totally surmountable for them, while that same record has already doomed us to mediocrity. With that one off-season move, Sixers GM Ed Stefanski did what Paxson has failed to do in his entire tenure: secure an effective low-post player.
While I could easily devote the rest of this preview to highlighting Paxson’s missteps as GM, I will refrain—it has all been said before. The fact is, with Rose, the Bulls don’t need Elton Brand to walk through the Berto Center doors. We are a mere role-playing big-man away from relevancy. Whether through trade, free agency, or player development, Paxson has before him a multitude of opportunities to succeed.
By all means, bemoan our frontcourt deficiencies until one of those moves materializes. Shake your head in disgust when Brand puts up 20 and 10 with the same ease with which VDN combs his hair. Turn away as Dalembert takes lobs, while Joakim huffs and puffs (and puffs some more). But I urge you, Bulls fans, not to envy the Sixers, or any other team. Because the real difference—the most important difference—between our two teams is that their players limit the Sixers' ceiling. For them it’s Brand or bust. The Bulls, with Derrick Rose in charge, have nearly unlimited potential, and we’re just a few moves away…
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Wow,
I’m actually psyched for this game now – it’s the first time (I think) I get the lineup I’ve wanted to see. I think Noah’s defense with Gooden’s offense is our best interior combination, as well as Rose/Gordon in the backcourt. Let’s see what they can do with some rest.
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by MPG on Nov 30, 2008 9:59 AM CST 0 recs
Don't get too excited about Noah.
The Tribune is reporting that he battling some mystery illness and could be replaced. So, maybe Larry Hughes will get the start after all…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on
Nov 30, 2008 10:12 AM CST
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Oy
Sometimes you just get the feeling it’s not going to work out for him.
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by MPG on
Nov 30, 2008 12:05 PM CST
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And if he doesn't go,
I just hope we won’t see Gray on Dalembert. That would be nasty.
Though, I could see Tyrus having success against him.
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by MPG on
Nov 30, 2008 12:06 PM CST
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Is this illness what;s causing the shortness of breath?
by Option27 on
Nov 30, 2008 12:33 PM CST
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yeah
the green monster has him by the lungs
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Nov 30, 2008 2:25 PM CST
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You captured our situation perfectly
I believe Paxson will make a trade from another team’s desperation. I look at the disappointing teams for opportunities. Rose for now is what we have and it could be worse.
by chgobr on Nov 30, 2008 10:54 AM CST 0 recs
Man, none of my formatting worked.
Italics, crossed-out words…darn.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 30, 2008 12:00 PM CST 0 recs
I was never high on Philly like some others
They are nowhere near the level of Cleveland or Boston, and will battle Orlando and Detroit for the title of “good but flawed contender.” Brand and Dalembert can kill us, and Iguodola has historically done well against Deng (though BG will be guarding him today). I feel like the Bulls haven’t played in a month, that either means they are well rested and will come out on fire, or will be so rusty they will brick their first 11 shots. Knowing this team, I will vote for the brick fest.
"It never is, because I'm the Shogun. And before you get to the Shogun, you gotta go through a lot of ninjas."
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 30, 2008 12:18 PM CST 0 recs
I remember that Iggy also locked Deng down last year
With the all-star buzz surrounding Deng, Iggy played like he had something to prove. Not sure how that’s going to play out this year, but I do know that Deng can’t create his own shot against Iggy. Let’s hope that Vinny delivers on his promise and finds ways to get Deng involved early and often.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 30, 2008 12:42 PM CST 0 recs
Well, I won't be watching this one.
My Steelers are playing the Patriots in an all-important game, and then the Bears (I don’t like them, but they’re still from Chicago) are playing the Vikings in another all-important game.
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on Nov 30, 2008 1:03 PM CST 0 recs
You guys will probably be pleasantly surprised
with how bad Dalembert has been this year.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on Nov 30, 2008 1:42 PM CST 0 recs
I hope we don't jump-start Dalemert's game.
I did not reaiize he wasn’t playing well. Philly has confused me. I thought they would compete for the East. Brand and Dalembert should dominate inside. Nothing like playing the games.
by chgobr on
Nov 30, 2008 1:57 PM CST
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Maybe this will be his breakout game.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:02 PM CST
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What's his problem?
Is he having trouble playing with Brand?
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on
Nov 30, 2008 2:20 PM CST
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this flummoxes me as well
Dalembert is tall, and therefore the answer to our low-post problems. I don’t see how he couldn’t be fantastic :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Nov 30, 2008 2:24 PM CST
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I sense you're joking...
But I’d totally take him. Off to the Trade Machine!
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on
Nov 30, 2008 2:28 PM CST
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He makes a ton of stupid passes and likes to take 20-foot fadeways
not to mention the stupid fouls and inability to catch a pass.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:38 PM CST
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OMFG why is he not in a Bulls uniform??
A frontcourt of Nocioni, Aaron Gray, and Dalembert is destiny.
"It never is, because I'm the Shogun. And before you get to the Shogun, you gotta go through a lot of ninjas."
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM CST
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Larry Hughes for Samuel Dalembert, what do you say?
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 2:40 PM CST
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Oh, whoops.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=356991&teams=204&te=&cash=
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 2:42 PM CST
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Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:45 PM CST
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=171132073030991&teams=2020204&te=&cash=
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:46 PM CST
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Looking to lose some payroll?
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on
Nov 30, 2008 2:47 PM CST
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Yes.
Then we could start Speights at center.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:49 PM CST
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When I was the Sixers GM on NBA 2k9
I ended up trading for Eric Gordon and had a starting lineup of
PG-Iggy
SG-Gordon
SF-Thad
PF-Brand
C-Speights
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:50 PM CST
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Holy crap, Iggy at the 1?
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 2:52 PM CST
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He has awesome court vision and he's a good passer.
It’s a long shot, but he’d be better than anyone else on the roster. And Eric Gordon would solve the shooting woes.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:54 PM CST
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That's why it's a video game.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on
Nov 30, 2008 2:57 PM CST
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That's why I'm not an NBA GM.
I’d like to be though. At least I would be entertaining.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:59 PM CST
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Sorry, but we have barely any frontcourt players to start with.
No way we give up 2 who can “play” for one.
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 2:51 PM CST
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Worth a shot.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:53 PM CST
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If Dalembert can't put up big numbers against our front court
you should really start to worry.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 30, 2008 2:05 PM CST 0 recs
Dalembert will get in early foul trouble and Marreese Speights will dominate.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:06 PM CST
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How do you pronounce Speights?
Spites? Spaytes? Speeiites?
And what the hell happened to Andre Miller? That halfcourt shot against the Magic was comically inept. He’s been awful for the Sixers, seems like everyone but Brand and Young has had a rough go of it, no?
"It never is, because I'm the Shogun. And before you get to the Shogun, you gotta go through a lot of ninjas."
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM CST
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Spites
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 3:39 PM CST
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Yeah, and even Brand sucked for a while.
He’s turned it around as of late.
And it’s…
Sp-A-tes, like weights, but with an SP.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM CST
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Oh, sorry, thought is wasn't that way.
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 3:46 PM CST
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Just don't call him Sprites
like 50% of the opposing announcers.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 3:48 PM CST
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Sprites? Like the soda?
How can you mess up like that?
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM CST
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Announcers these days.
And yes, like the soda.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM CST
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Great read...
Go Bulls!
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by Belize on Nov 30, 2008 2:50 PM CST 0 recs
Steelers game going to start soon, got to go.
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on Nov 30, 2008 2:53 PM CST 0 recs
No Cowboys today.
Football is dead to me. And your a Steelers fan? See you next Sunday.
Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.
by jsams on
Nov 30, 2008 2:55 PM CST
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Dammit, for some reason CBS switched the game to Broncos-Jets.
We’ll beat your ass next week!
Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).
by stupidgenius on
Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM CST
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didn't care the first time
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Nov 30, 2008 3:16 PM CST
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anybody else's CSN channel...
not syncing the audio and video correctly?
:/
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 30, 2008 3:31 PM CST 0 recs
Go Bulls!!!
I’m hoping we can win this one… Philly’s big are not playing well. But there’s nothing like a game against the Bulls big to become better. Remember Dampier??? :s
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by bull83 on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM CST 0 recs
best place to watch this online
if i was wanting to watch this game online – what site would i find the best feed?
by swede2287 on Nov 30, 2008 3:54 PM CST 0 recs
Philly is +100
in total rebounding this year – good luck TT/Gooden!
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by Ugh It Live! on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM CST 0 recs










