is going on? I love how this team completely collapses during the end of games. Why has Derrick Rose not tried to take over?

Up 9 and they just COLLAPSE. What a bunch of bullshit, VDN isn’t an NBA level coach and Pax should be fired for hiring such an abomination of a coach. Derrick Rose needs to realize that his team is terrible and I don’t care if they’re doubling him and packing the lane, he needs to get to the rim. Fuck these supposed “teammates”. Deng looks like a retard out there and Larry thinks he’s great just because he lucked out and hit a game winner.

Where is Tyrus Thomas? What the fuck Vinny? I hate you. I’d rather have Skiles. Or Boylan. Yeah, I said it. I’d rather have BOYLAN.

Rose is obviously phenomenal. However, Deng can’t beat Matt Bonner off the dribble. Hughes shoots every time. Gooden is a terrible help defender. If Noc isn’t spacing the floor with threes, he has no value. Gordon still doesn’t understand that if he just runs hard off of screens, he’ll score 25 w/o having to dribble (not a strength). Noah is out of shape. It’s just miserable to watch if Rose isn’t attacking.

Rose needs to get 20 shots a night.

where watching games isnt enjoyable, just frustrating.

What harm would it be to focus on the future? as in let TT (Shit as he is), and Noah at least play? They are top 10 picks we should at least TRY to make them into something at least useful? Gray? Noc? Hughes? Gooden? These guys are not in the future plans, whats going on? Just frustrating.

Rose just looked exhausted, and frankly, it was like BG and Hughes were playing keep-away with him. Tonight was the first night where I thought there’s definitely a power struggle going on. I didn’t really see it before. Now I believe it.

4 for 14, 0 for 6 from the arc, 1 rebound, zero FTA’s in 40 minutes. This spells LOSER in my book. Which makes VDN a jerk for keeping him on the court all that time. Vinney should sit down once in a while and read the stat sheet during the game, not after he has miscoached them into another loss in a game they could have won.

It’s not just about how many points you score. Noce and Gooden were -8,
Larry -11,
Gordon the great gamer -15.
Luol -6.
Thomas who we all know is a dud -2, and the other stiff Noah +2 Gray -1 and
Rose, playing with a bunch of selfish stat padders -1.

I know statistics are only part of the story, but it seems our big guns habitually give up more points than they put on the boards. Gooden just can’t stop anybody, Gordon can’t grow any taller, while Hughes has demonstrated he is able to completely shut down an offense, but unfortunately, it’s usually ours.
Rose still gets burned on pick and rolls and has a lot to learn defensively, but he’s a quick study and it’s just a matter of time before he puts this part of his game together.

Apparently, Thabo, Thomas and Noah are in VDN’s doghouse, which leads to stagnation if he doesn’t throw them some bones once in awhile, especially while the others are being ripped apart like a bunch of Yorkies battling some angry pit bulls.

Hughes, Deng, Noce and Gray played 92 minutes and hauled down 6 boards.
Thomas and Noah had 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Does a lack of rebounding ever affect the outcome of a game? I guess I’ll have to ask Da Coach on that one.

….our backcourt would be NO ISSUE AT ALL if ANYBODY in our frontcourt other than Drew Gooden would decide to show up. Truth be told, we have some of the most solid guard play in the league (or are capable of getting that). But as long as we remain as inept as we are in the frontcourt, we stand NO CHANCE of being a decent team. So people, PLEASE STOP complaining about the guards. They are the LEAST of our concerns.

Gordon/Rose/Hughes/Hinrich, etc…. we have 1 soon to be sure fire all-star in that group and we have a 20+ ppg guy (maybe 2) in that mix. I will no longer worry myself to death about our backcourt. Paxson MUST make a move and get us some frontcourt help…or somebody upfront better grow up and get good in a hurry.

Noce has got to sit down till he plays better. He has really sucked the last few games.

How bad is it? I found myself rejoicing when he hit a threepointer.

ONE FREAKING THREEPOINTER.

Two years ago, there was a strong push for him to be in the three point shoo out, with his 43% (more or less) shooting percentage from 3point land. Now, I practically throw a ticker tape parade when he hits one.

That being said, I find myself at a loss when asked who should take his minutes. Thabo? Been sucking a lot too. TT? Sucks even more. Noah? Sucks and huffs and puffs after 3 trips down the floor. Hughes? Simmons? The departed Nichols?

Who, damn it, who?

I hate to say it but del negro has already lost faith in tyrus. All he has him do is play off the ball and run in for a rebound, which he rarely gets, but still why isn’t he sprinting the floor, when he sprints he’s as fast as D. Rose.