If the option that doesn’t play our learning bigs results in us playing Larry Hughes at SF, we kind of need to play the bigs.
Less Larry Hughes on the court = more wins for everybody!

 a few extra games by playing the veterans is a waste of time.

Dumping Gooden and Hughes is imperative.

Anyone who actually thinks that Gordon is even a servicable NBA player Try this for one game, or even half of a game.

Don’t watch the ball or the game just follow Gordon around. His lack of effort energy and slack jaw body language is comical. There really are not enough negative words in the English language to describe watching him play. He does absolutely nothing when not trying to get off his own shot. He might be the biggest jaker in the history of the NBA, a league half full of Jakers.

I honestly don’t know how he ever survived playing for Skiles. If I had to coach this guy I’d go Mike Singletary on him every day, probably even in practice.

In order to even be a allowed on the court Gordon should be a 40-50-90 guy, that’s 40% from 3, 50% from the field overall, and 90% from the line. He has never even come close.

Rose is already suffering for Gordon’s defensive defeciencies, and we don’t need anything messing Rose up.

If you can watch even one quarter of Gordon and still think that he is a quality NBA player then you simply have never played the game, and don’t watch it very well either.

The problem with most losing teams is that they have a bunch of players who think only about thier scoring stats, instead of defense and rebounding first.

Agree with this post, except for criticism against VDN.
VDN obviously knows things that we don’t. He’s seen things that we haven’t.

Of Tyrus, Noah, and Gray, surprisingly, Gray has been the brighter star. However meager at an absolute level, his inside presence has been highly acceptable compared to Noah and Tyrus.

Gordon is a keeper. Behind Rose, Gordon is option #2. Opponents know this and they focus on this. If Gordon was on a team with inside presence, Gordon could leverage that presence and really shine.

And I’m surprised that some bloggers here still bitch about Gordon. Deng is the guy with the big contract, with the big money, with the expectations. Deng has been miserable. Gordon is the odd man out, the “here’s what’s left for you” guy, the “you’re not worth it” guy.
Gordon is the leading scorer.

I’ve been a fan and supporter of Tyrus and Noah last year…but the fact of the matter is…they are just downright horrible this year…and I’m not blaming the coaches for giving them limited minutes. VDN gave Tyrus an incredible long leash early in the season…where Tyrus was the worst player on the court but still getting starter minutes. Tyrus never really found his groove, even with that opportunity. He’s regressed and it’s painful to watch. The only thing that he may have improved on, is his aggressiveness to get rebounds. Let’s forget about his 30% FG shooting. He has been a contributer to one of the worst interior defense in the league. He’s good at blocking shots from the weak side but he allows everyone to get good position in the paint. As for Noah, the fact that he shows up this season out of shape is ridiculous. He couldn’t even play half the first quarter yesterday and signalled for the coach to take him out. His offense looks worse than last year and his defense as well.

You can’t keep blatantly ripping other people (as in vdn) because Tyrus and Noah suck.

Tyrus is averaging 22 minutes a game and is in his third year in the league. At what point does the law of diminishing returns kick in here? Do you think that if you average him 30 Minutes per game he’ll suddenly just be “The Guy”?

I read this board a lot, same with sactown royalty, and the spurs at pounding the rock. Everyone has big blind spots for certain players, but Tyrus has NEVER really done..anything and yet..he creates internet torture with these kind of threads on an almost daily basis.

I ask again at what point do you let go of the fantasy that he is the man? How much love and affection does a little bit of hustle and the occasional shot block bring you? I would love this guy to work out but all last season there were excuses made for him, and all this season the same excuses are being used.

People who are good enough, are just flat out good enough.

The last word of the second paragraph is (name redacted). How could you?!

The reason the Chicago Bulls are saddled with a joke of a rookie head Coach in Vinnie Del Negro and promising young players like Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas are being moved around like footballs is because the Bulls’ big boss Jerry Reinsdorf drove Mike D’Antoni into the hands of the New York Knicks. I don’t blame John Paxson. He set it up for them to hire D’Antoni and Reinsdorf said he needed more time to think about what should have been a slamdunk.
I’ve refused to sign up for League Pass to watch this travesty of the Bulls unfold. Derek Rose is as advertised. The Bulls need to get rid of Ben Gordon. I don’t care how many points he scores. He’s selfish and a dark shadow on this team. Drew Gooden is nauseating, a loser who is masquerading as the real deal. I see here that some people want Noah moved. I hope New York comes calling so that I can watch his development here in New York where he was born. As I have said before, Noah is a winning ball player with a lot of intangibles. I look at Al Orford in Atlanta and, as good as he is, had it not been for the presence of Noah on that great Florida team, they wouldn’t have won back-to-back national championships. That was foremost in Paxson’s mind when they took Noah in the draft.