Open Game Thread #14: Bulls at Denver Nuggets
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Let's see if we can get a W here!
Go Bulls.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
I predict Hughes
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
I hate to think this
But eventually Luol’s going to come back, and VDN is going to have to choose between BG and Hughes as the starting 2-guard (unless we permanently go small, which I can’t see).
I think we all know what (awful) decision he’ll be making there. Ugh.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
you're surprised? :)
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
nice start
let’s keep like this
did anyone notice that bg is defending Billups??
http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)
ben is going to get abused by billups
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
again at the rim.
In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Nov 23, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Noah is probably tired
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Remember
The game is taking place at elevation. All of the “shifts” should be shorter today, and minutes might just be down across-the-board for the regulars.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Keep it up Larry
Your trade value is starting to climb!
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions
Larry Hughes doing the things that he needs to do to be successful
I hate to keep harping on this, but when Larry drives and slashes, he’s pretty good.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions
and when he shoots 3s after one pass of the ball he hurts the team
by Playboy_Bull on Nov 23, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
yes, that's my point. if he can avoid taking those bad shots that he loves and keep
going to the rim, he’s actually pretty good. Not 13 million dollars good, but pretty good.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
I just wish he was doing it on another team.
As a former point guard, you’d think he’d consider passing every now and then.
why do we insist on making passes like that
ben gordon
Gordon is still struggling with his jumpshot on the road trip
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 8:22 PM CST reply actions
when is gordon not struggling with his shot?
5 times a year?
let's try to pawn hughes off to a golden state, denver
these are the systems that he could be mediocre in
Rose settled for that jumper and got blocked. Gotta improve that decision making.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions
Noah and Gray didn't play a single minute last game
And they’re playing large roles tonight. Vinny is lol
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
so is aaron gray guarding kenyon martin
that just ain’t right….that’s not fair to aaron gray
no prayer.
Did you guys hear the story on one of the recent Bulls Beats
About how Skiles was like petrified of Ben Wallace? And he was literally afraid to make decisions against or ever call out the Corpse?
I can’t possibly imagine why this would be the case, but I can only imagine that VDN has the same fear of Larry Hughes.
(Pardon to Doug @ Bulls Beat if I misrepresented any of that).
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Get Gray out of there
They’re purposely switching to match up against him
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions
Someone needs to remind him that he is...
a product of his PG’s efforts.
I've never gotten that sense
He was a spectacular player at Cincinnati and has been a good player, when healthy, in The League.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Just remembered how good he was in NJ...
and how bad he was when he didn’t have Jason Kidd throwing him lob passes.
Noce seems to have dropped in VDN's rotation.
4 subs have come in and still no Noce!
Rose/Hunter backcourt
Vinny is reaching new lows
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
You're just not picking up on the subtle genius of VDN's method.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
It looks oddly like the mad science of one Scott Skiles.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah ... I actually understood what Skiles was doing most of the time (even if I didn't agree).
VDN’s thought process, on the other hand…
1. Pick names out of a hat
2. ???
3. Profit!
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
wow i would hate to be a nuggets fan
the most undisciplined basketball…might as well be a game at the local ymca
Tyrus, lol
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Oh my fucking god
This has been hard to watch. Blech.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
What the hell is this?
Melo, Smith, Balkman, Carter and Kleiza against DRose, Noce, Thabo, Hunter and Thomas?
Is there a center in the building?
adrian dantley is a Nuggets assistant
Suit him up. The game needs him.
In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.
by NBA Observer on Nov 23, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Tyrus making those passes is one of the worst things he does
he has good vision, he saw an open Thabo, but it’s like he has no concept of how to throw a touch pass. He whips one of those passes past a confused teammate about once a game.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:38 PM CST reply actions
OMFG
I’m so tired of Tyrus throwing the ball away. And not getting back on defense. And not playing good man to man defense. And not running the break. And not hitting jump shots. And sucking.
Just had to get that off my chest.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Time for Rose to take over.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Noce is such a fucking moron
He never ever EVER sets an actual screen, then decides he wants to run into somebody for an obvoius whistle.
Another breakaway. This is f’ing disgusting.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
omg, BG got a whistle when he got knocked down in the lane while shooting
he NEVER gets that call. yessss.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions
The NBA needs to get rid of free throws
It’s destroying the game and destroying the league. Find a solution so the game can flow and go by quicker.
Drew Gooden
Get your lazy ass back on defense. Why doesn’t this team no how to get back on defense?
Soft coaching that cowtows to overpaid and clearly inferior veterans?
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Hey! We're battling back!
DRose is the key to this thing! (Well, him and Gooden not shooting from 20ft out, Hughes not falling in love with his three point shooting, Noah providing good post defense, TT driving and blocking shots, Gordon shooting without not hogging the ball, Noce playing better defense…)
Gooden's jumper is falling. Sigh. He's going to keep shooting from deep.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions
hughes to the hole again
i like him when he does this stuff
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Okay, hughes is having a nice enough game.
Hope he continues taking it to the rim (cautiously eyeing hughes)
ben stops dribbling
at the worst times
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Our big men
Just stand there and let Denvers big men shoot wide open jumpers.
Why does Stooge TV have ads?
Things could be worse.
I love Drew Gooden's beard
Things could be worse.
wow. i thought you just made that screen-name because of that comment
but you actually had this account earlier
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
did the crowd really just do the slow clap
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
It just isn't.
They aren’t even pretending to try and defend. I think I saw gooden put his hands together to give a driving Nene a boost on his way up to the rim. Such a gentleman.
This is why Drew Gooden should only be a 4.
He’s actually productive then.
Things could be worse.
Our interior D is a giant black hole
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Our interior D will be existent when we get interior players.
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
I think I'd welcome that
It’d probably suck in the short run, but its become more and more evident that BG has no future on this team.
I don't think we can trade Gordon...
Without his permission, unless I’m mistaken.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Hughes is 0-4 from 3-point land
He’s made all his driving shots and missed all his threepointers.
Can’t he take a hint?
This is the guy who doesn't care about winning.
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
noah
should play Pf. he isnt fit to play center. I always liked him more at Pf. There are like 5 power forwards on the team and one Center. I dont want to hear this whole positions in the nba dont matter anymore because we have no interior defense and that matters. Its amazing that this team can even compete like that.
Noah
Blows. He needs to be traded immediatly…along with Thomas.
disagree
they’re young – we expect mistakes
can’t say the same for gooden…
I keep wanting to say that, too
But its getting harder to do so by the day.
Comeback at the end of the half!
Things could be worse.
Flawless shot selection Ben!
Things could be worse.
Noah is fucking awful
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
yeah
he got fouled, but you can’t cry about it, that’s a three point swing.
by chicagodogg79 on Nov 23, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
he still has no post moves. that was so weak
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
they should call Anthony Mason
to show Noah and Gray how to rape the post.
by chicagodogg79 on Nov 23, 2008 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
great momentum buster right there
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Ladies and gentleman:
the stylings of Larry Hughes.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Noah is a god damn joke.
He better not see another minute in this game. He is getting torched.
that
obviously was afoul. dont blame noah but he should control himself.
It was a foul
that’s true. But to get a ball that close to the basket and be so physically weak as to not even get a shot off is pathetic.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I knew
Noah was a horrible pick the second we drafted him. I was calling for Spencer Hawes…
he got incredibly lucky that that went in, but it is good to see him driving and getting contact
and most of all getting the calls. He never used to get those, but seems to be now.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
it is infuriating
He thinks he’s Kobe Bryant
You better make that shot, Ben.
Fuck you for not passing to Rose
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Woah, that went in!
Things could be worse.
Still a bad shot, but it went in!
Things could be worse.
Gordon should have passed there
I’m happy it went in, but c’mon…really?
Damn you Ben Gordon
You and your contract year!
I hope that no one thinks that was a great shot, it was pure luck
and horrible basketball, typical of Gordon and his phoney box score.
John Pax loves picking
offensively challenged big men. Watch this upcoming draft he’ll pick Hasheem Thabeet or something.
Rose is the only guy who should have the ball at the end of the shot clock
I don’t give a shit if that shot by BG went in. If Hughes did that, he’d be crucified.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Hilarious:
we can still win.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Holy shit, the Pistons got blown out at home by the T-Wolves
The AI thing isn’t working out so well.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
Honestly that trade was terrible for them...
Billups did so many things for that team that will be missed.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions
Cap room is a different story...
But Billups gave that team a good identity and got people involved. Plus he’s a stronger PG and can defend so much better than AI.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, break down of the team:
Derrick: only a 1
Lindsay: only a 1
Kirk: 1 or 2
Ben: only a 2
Larry: ONLY A 2 GODDAMNIT!
Thabo: 2 or 3
Luol: only a 3
Noce: a 3 or 4
Drew: ONLY A 4 GODDAMNIT!
Tyrus: only a 4
Noah: 4 or 5
Gray: only a 5
Things could be worse.
Fax to Pax
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
No, I think he means Pax...
How the hell are we supposed to compete when our 5 is Noah or Gray? Not VDN’s fault.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
One of the most knowledgable posts ever on this site.
and I would suggest obvious also.
Following that,
a rotation:
PG: Derrick plays 35 Kirk plays 10 Lindsay plays 3
SG: Ben plays 30 Kirk plays 10 Larry plays 5 Thabo plays 3
SF: Luol plays 30 Noce plays 10 Thabo plays 8
PF: Drew plays 25 Tyrus plays 15 Noah plays 5 Noce plays 3
C: Noah plays
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
C: Noah plays 28 Gray plays 17
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
The center rotation won't work now while Noah's so totally out of shape/etc.:
I like your PG/SG[replace Larry’s 5 with more Thabo/Lindsay]/SF minutes, but even with the horribleness it entails I’d go 20/20/8 [Drew/Tyrus/Noce] on PF, and 22/18/8 [Noah/Gray/Gooden] on C. I don’t think Noah will be able to handle ~30 minutes a game right now.
Also, some of your numbers don’t add to 48. [28+17=45? :P]
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Noah gets abused by the Refs, and his teammates
Noah never gets a call on the offensive end, and that has to add up in his mind over time.
The reason that he has so many fouls on defense is that the Bulls don’t have a single plalyer who can man up on defense. So Noah is constantly picking up other guys and drawing fouls, and when he does no one picks up his man, so that when he rotates back to his man, he ends up in a position where his only option is to foul.
If everyone on the team played help defense as much as he does we would be a much better unit. This is what we used to do prior to the team quiting on skiles last season.
You must not have paid attention tonight...
he’s fallen asleep on D at least 3 times. He’s completely lost.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
The way that we are playing team defense right now
it is hard to tell who is responsible for what and who isn’t falling asleep or just not trying.
So you're saying Thomas, Gooden and Gray sucking on D is making Noah look worse than he is.
Its plausible, but I dunno…
It isn't helping him any, and causes a lot of his foul problems
He has enough of his own issues to be burdened with shitty teammates.
You forgot Noce.
He is sucking quite a bit the past few games. I’m getting a bit down on him
There's some truth to this
but Noah reciprocates the defensive suck, which puts Gray et al in the same position.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
If we traded any of them to a veteran squad, I bet the vets would cover up for a lot of their mistakes
They’d end up playing better, and we wouldn’t hear the end of how bad such a trade was.
That is a good point.
TT on the Celtics would become “all he needed was a fresh start. Shame on the Bulls for not waiting and developing him.”
And all because he would have KG and Perkins covering for his bonehead mistakes.
Unfortunately, Gooden, our "vet.," doesn't erase too many mistakes.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Nope, doesn't appear to.
In fact, I think he’s proven that he makes more than his fair share.
For a guy who wasn't supposed to be a good shooter, Rose
is already the best jump shooter on the Bulls.
Yes, that includes Gordon, who may have deeper range right now, but is not a better overall shooter
Roses elevation is awesome, notice that he lands forward from where he takes off to shoot, this is the mark of a good shooter, who has learned proper technique. Kerr and Paxson always did this. Guys who fall into the habit of falling backward usaully have problems, as Gordon does often.
If Hughes would just limit his offensive options to only:
shooting OPEN 3s or driving to the basket, he might be able to help us out
I will say this:
Noah has been very active on the offensive glass tonight which is great to see
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Hughes..sweet behind the back foul on Anthony. I do that playing pickup because I'm lazy.
And because I don’t make 18 mil a year to play basketball.
Wow, what a ridiculous move by Rose.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Drew
Nene can make that shot. You might want to contest it.
Uneven game
Both teams unable to get a rhythm going
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions
What is
Gooden going? He never contests a jump shot!
Noah's body language is terrible this game. Shades of the Mopey Iowan.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions
By the way since I don't live in Chicago
maybe you local insiders know if Godon happens to be gay, he sure carries himself as if he is, not there’s anything wrong with that, just ask that English guy who disappeared from the league.
Anatomy of our team:
Rose>Deng>Gordon>Kirk>Noce>Gooden>Noah>Tyrus>Larry>Thabo>Lindsay>Gray
Things could be worse.
Larry
is worse than Gray.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
I'd put lindsay before Larry, Thabo and TT
Seriously.
ben
stop picking the ball up at the horriblist times ever
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Perfect example, whos guarding Martin, whos guarding Billups
Noah just got that foul on Martin after helping on Billups. Neither one of those guys are “his” man, Nene is. So who the fuck is guarding the two guys that Naoh just picked up a foul by trying to guard them both.
In the first half, everytime he turned around Martin was flying down the lane as if nobody was guarding him, and most of the time there wasn’t.
I’m not saying that Noah is the second coming, he may never even become a legitimate starting center, but he really is the least of our worries right now.
Noc/Gray frontcourt.
Game over.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
For the first time this season...
NOOOOOOOO! Don’t do it, VDN!
dont forget
hughes is still in i believe. that has to be the worst front three in the nba. maybe the Thunder can match that.
by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
What really depresses me is Nene has 17pts.
KMart has 15pts and it’s just the 3rd quarter. They look like AllStars against our bigs.
ON the flipside, Melo just has 10 and Billups has 9.
Maybe we should go small ball
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder how bad we would be losing
if denver didn’t suck ass at freethrow shooting
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
DERRICK
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I mean, that was right in Rose's eye
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
oh my god
Aaron Gray actually tipped it to himself for a change, instead of the other team
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
I love it that Thabo gets the board and then immediately hands the ball to Derrick
Thabo knows the pecking order.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 9:49 PM CST reply actions
And just for that...
he moves up on the pecking order. Bad Larry!
gray
the site of a lumbering gray wit his hands up calling for the consistently is terrifying. regardless of how hes playing.
by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
so funny
and so true
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
I just started laughing at that
Things could be worse.
WOO GORDON
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Sweet, now Gordon thinks he's MJ again.
look for less passing from him asap
i didn't know Manny Ramirez played for the nuggets
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
we are "Surviving"
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
* Or rather "not sign" him.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
GRAY
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
nice job Aaron Gray, that's good BB IQ to recognize he had Balkman on him
and just take him to the hole for the easy score.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions
Yep. Smart play there. Good on him.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
MUWAHAHA
Gray is hugeness.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Microcosm of BG's game
Dribbles off his foot for a TO, then coverts a four-point play.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 9:55 PM CST reply actions
Gray
Is a better player than Noah. And I’m serious with this statement.
You may be converting me.
Need to see a bit more though.
You're also
wrong.
[IMHO.]
Noah was pretty awesome last year. He needs to get into game shape. He is not in game shape. His entire game is based off energy and hustle.
…
He needs to work on that.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
Gordon gets the pass,
drives, loses it, gets it back up, drops it, Gray reaches for it, misses, falls down trying to get, still can’t reach it, starts crawling to it, foul called.
Things could be worse.
That was a while ago
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
you must be watching an internet feed
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
LOL all the time in the world
clank
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Make those open 3's GODDAMNIT!
Things could be worse.
Take a few more minutes to line up that brick Thabo
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:58 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lol
this is why we are one of the worst shooting teams in the nBA. that’s pathetic.
you and illini15
are confusing the hell out of me with your similar names
stop it!
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
illini15 has a picture
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
I give Thabo credit for a nice O rebound...
but make a wide open shot. I wonder how many shots he puts up a day in the gym.
Thank god Nene's back in, maybe they'll stop looking for Gray
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
But Gray did pretty well in the last few mins.
Who knows what he could have done had Nene not stepped in.
There's Derrick being too good for his teammates again
he saw Gray open and Gray wasn’t even looking for the ball.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions
Aaron Gray is just now processing what happened.
I’m pretty sure he thinks in slow motion too.
Gray can not be counted on to catch an Oop
… or anything
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
He can blame Gray
But unless Aaron is already jumping, that is a bad pass
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Especially not a laser beam oop.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
injured
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Can somebody
tell me what Hunters shooting stats are this game? He keeps bricking these open shots.
He's just trying to fit in on a new team
by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
wow
LOL
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
1-5
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
WTF IS THIS LINEUP VINNY
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
GET OFF THE FLOR NOC
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
That's the way Noce!
Don’t make me lose my faith in you!
Vinny is trying to lose the game
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
thank you for not shooting that Hunter
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions
The shot clocks arent working
Wheres Johnny Red Kerr at…
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
what is the
deal with this Rose-Hunter backcourt? dumb…
If Rose is there, it's not so dumb.
Try a Hughes-Hunter backcourt. Ugh!
Sweet foul Larry
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
forever?
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
FUCK! WE'RE SCREWED!
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
he actually drew contact this time at least
and let out a big “OOOOFFF” to make sure the refs noticed
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, he got the charge!
That’s good enough for me!
Time to make a run!
No Billups, no Melo!
Go make your run!
What is this f-ing lineup?!!>
Hunter, Rose, Gordon, Nocioni? How the fuck willl they rebound? defend?
Fire VDN. Seriously. He’s an idiot.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
good pass
gooden just isn’t quite good enough around the basket
BG...
Taking over.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions
haha gee Gordons cocky taking that shot!
Great stuff!
by rquinsee on Nov 23, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions
Funk is just waiting to rip on Gordon lol
He says with enthusiasm: "And there’s Gordon JACKING’’
….and making.
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Oh no, The Three Midget Lineup returns
Rose, Gordon and Hunter on the floor together, are you kidding me. And I thought we got rid of Duhon for a reason.
I don't think Stacey King knows what a heat-check is.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:19 PM CST reply actions
Notice the difference
between Godon’s last 2 shots, the one that he made he was “falling” forward into his shot the one he missed he was falling backward away from his shot, just a basic fundamental of shooting.
VDN doing something that resembles coaching!
Things could be worse.
Also, Ben has been really efficient tonight.
28 points on 12 (!) shots so far, 5 assists and just 2 TOs.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions
NOC
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Emmy award right there
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Are you kidding me?
THAT was our inbounds play?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:22 PM CST reply actions
Noc with another flop and gets the call, NICE
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 10:22 PM CST reply actions
You keep doing that.
Now if only you start making some shots…
Who the fuck does Scrotum, I mean Gordon think he is
Kobe, no maybe Michael
nice ball movement, Lindsay for three and hits.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 10:22 PM CST reply actions
Denver sucks at D worse than us
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions
They're sixth in the NBA in Def Eff coming into tonight, they're a lot better than most give credit for
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
They have been sucking tonight and that's all I see
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
But now we seem to take sucking to a new level
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
He's making em.
Nice flop Noce, saved us 3 points!
Things could be worse.
Were we in zone?
WTF?
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
WORST. DEFENSE. EVER.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Gee, I don't know why we can't get a rebound
when the combined height of the 5 guys on the court is under 32 feet.
They're just lost on defense
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
great interior defense
It’s like watching a buncha retards trying to hump a doorknob out there!
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
lol
Sorry but we’re not winning this game. Not with this pathetic lineup.
I don't know if I can take another season of this.
On nights when Rose isn’t asserting himself, its tough to watch.
Fuck VDN
fuck VDN, fuck VDN. For playing Gooden/Nocioni against K-Mart/Nene. For guarding Melo with Gordon. For playing Hunter this much.
He’s a joke. As is Paxson for hiring him.
Goodnight all.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
oh, they are
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hughes FTL
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Build a house with those bricks Larry
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Build a spaceship!
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet...
Who did we get for him?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
A trade that could only be called Paxian.
We got Darth Bricker.
Things could be worse.
by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
i started to watch at the same time
and i see larry hughes blow a rotation and let billups go to the rim and then brick a wide open 3
by Orange Juice on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Derrick
quit passing the damn ball. Take over…your supporting cast is horrendous
Wish we stuck with Noce or Hunter.
Hughes comes in, shoots, misses, Denver scores.
Hughes shoots again, misses again, Denver scores again.
Chauncey
B-B-B-B-BURN IN HELL
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
FUCK YOU GORDON
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Gordon demanded the ball from Rose and then fell down, lost the ball and it lead
to a fast break dunk. Great.
by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions
proving once again that gordon can close out games...
for the other team
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
Ben Gordon highlight reel.
I hate you Ben. Please leave soon.
Well...
That’s it.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions
did that go off his foot?
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions
yes...
Surprised?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
shocked
and then when he was lying down on his stomach afterwards…never seen that before either
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck this
I have had it with these fucking team. The Coach sucks, the GM sucks, the players suck. How we have 6 wins is beyond me…
Hmmmm Pick n Roll beats us again
where have we seen this before…
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Who's counting?
Im fixing the rope on the ceiling beam and the chair to stand on.
if you're going to lose, look like you're going to lose earlier
don’t blow the game in the last 5 min … like getting outscored 20-5 or something like that
by Orange Juice on Nov 23, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
you're the BEST BULLS FAN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!!!!!!
jesus fucking christ
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Watching SNF and then it went to hell
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
and it ends with a 3
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Actually both these teams suck...
Denver shouldn’t celebrate this win at all.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions
Yea that really makes losing shitty easier.
Hey they shouldnt celebrate we suck even more.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
None of this is easy...
Who ever said it was?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Didnt say it was supposed to be easy.
I just hate sugar coating games where nothing was honestly learned from a single player.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
I'm not sugar coating anything...
We suck and so does Denver, period.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Nuggets sure look jacked up
for beating a team like the bulls at home. I don’t know maybe i’m just sorry
In a way its good they lost.
If they won this one, it’d reinforce the idea that they could play D like that and still be competitive.
RIGHT
cause they have changed anything from playing bad d for 13 games….
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
why is he the worst coah? he really isnt a bad coach? what the fuck do you expect him to do? get on the court and play defense?
by Playboy_Bull on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Did you see his fucking lineups?
And why can’t he ban Ben Gordon from handling the ball?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Look
At our last 5-6 games….how many points we have given up. Absolutely pathetic. I can’t stand this team anymore. Something needs to happen NOW. If Paxson doesn’t make a god damn trade….ugh
Ok what the hell happened down the stretch? I was watching the football.
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
In Vinny We Trust!
I'd like that one play made into an animated gif so I can post it any time
people start getting caught up in his stats
more like
“we couldn’t defend somebody at a pickup game at the nursing home” happened
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
and Larry Hughes happened
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
sickening, d on martin
were making tattoo twat martin look like amare.
2010
Ill make my decision on this management.
Love the bulls till the day i die.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
Might as well make your decision now...
The only thing that will happen in 2010 is that we’ll offer max money to three guys, I’m pretty sure every team that can, will.
Every day that we trot out Noah and Gray and expect to compete is another nail in the coffin for management as far as I am concerned.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
It'll be the Summer of 2000 all over again.
Benny the Bull will be at the airport and everything.
Wouldn't it be funny if McGradyand Hill showed up too...
And asked if we were still willing to pay them Max money.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
i thought noah did alright
9 boards, active. Gray can score but he kills us on d especially transition. only 2 more years til wade comes home.
The biggest theme of this road trip/season
Bulls dominated inside again.
Martin and Nene combine 17-23, 47 points.
Just horrible.
like dance moves?
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Disjointed game from Rose, but he still put up 15 - 6 - 2 - 2
I can feel good about this. Last year, I would’ve just jammed a pencil in my eye.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions
You know they're great players when they have a bad game
And still put up numbers like that.
I can't express how pissed I am with VDN
right now. That lineup was the biggest pile of horseshit I’ve ever seen. Worse than the Skiles era. Worse than the Boylan era. The Bulls were winning, then they they shovel this untenable manure-mixture onto the court. The worst defensive interior players EVER. The smallest guards EVER. Honestly, think about this – even Duhon, Hinrich and Gordon were bigger than Hunter, Rose and Gordon. Then this slick, pompadour-working glorified anouncer has the temerity to act outraged when they don’t play defense or rebound. Well. They. Can’t.
He’s the worst coach in the league, bar none. Nor do I think it’s close. No other coach caves to spoilt veterans as readily as VDN. No other coach has as disorganized an offense (or lack of an offense). No other coach plays such absurd lineups. And that’s not even considering the defense (or again, lack thereof).
We could’ve had D’Antoni. That’s what’s killing me.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
On the other hand,
having written that, I feel much better.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I dont
I wish for D’Antoni to magically appear as the bulls coach every night.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
I do.
The Knicks have a winning record with garbage. We have a losing record with talent.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
yea but knicks dont have a circus trip like ours. thats still needs to considered a little
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
Reread my post
I said i dont feel better. I do wish dor D’Antoni every night.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
but we saved money!!!
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
yea i think thabo deserved more time in the 4th
wat was it 16-30 in the fourth? thats pitifull
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
Not trying to tempt the wrath you are obviously feeling but...
Who else should the Bulls play when Hinrich and Deng are hurt? Isn’t it really MGMT’s fault we don’t have any real players beyond Rose?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
More TT, Noah, and Thabo
and less Gray, Hughes, and Noce could’ve helped.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
You really think we can keep up a decent scoring pace with them?
Honestly?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
The line-ups VDN threw out there were destined to fail.
Seeing those line-ups, I got the feeling in my gut that hits me whenever Gordon pounds the ball with 10 seconds left in the quarter/half/game.
Even worse, Noah/TT/Thabo showed signs productivity early and then just disappeared.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
When has TT, Noah, or Thabo ever been a consistent positive factor, especially late?
Every lineup VDN puts out there is destined to fail because we don’t have good players. I’m not saying anything profound there, but it’s more a commentery on management.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Not disagreeing with your commentary on management
but last I checked, we’re still trying to develop our young “talent.” So it doesn’t make too much sense to pull them after promising starts in favor of the likes of Gray and Hughes, who haven’t done any more to make the case for their minutes.
by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
You're right
that Pax shares in the blame. However:
Rose – Gordon – Thabo – Gooden – Noah
Hunter – Hughes – Nocioni – Thomas – Gray
These are players in their natural position. Or something like it.
I know that VDN can’t magically create another Derrick Rose. I just wish he would but play the best players, and play them in their position. That’s all.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I think VDN and Pax are both dead men walking.
Unless we get a magical trade and somebody like a Pau Gasol falls into our lap.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Noah with the only positive +/-
at +7
I know the stat is kinda meaningless. but just throwing it out there
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
Probably had his size 15's hanging off the bench on the floor...
When Gordon was going nuts with 3’s. Only logical explanation.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
I was flat-out wrong on that one
I really wanted Noah, and thought Hawes would be a bust. I was really, really wrong on Hawes.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
i was the opposite
i wanted hawes when the draft took place. but after seeing that he got injured all last season, and noah actucally playing okay last year, i figured maybe its ok we got noah. but now i back to original thought of hawes
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
postgame thread is up
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2008 10:53 PM CST reply actions
TT
just got lost on the bench
Didnt understand that after his two nice drives to the hoop without the ball.
What to do, with Larry Hughe?
Because the players who got all the minutes never turned the ball over, right?
There was a promise to develop players, one on which VDN has failed to deliver on.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
One mistake:
BANISHED TO THE BENCH FOREVER!
Rose better not make a mistake, we’ll all be waiting to bench him, amirite?
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
it was a bad pass
but he was put in a rough spot, there were only like 5 seconds left in the shot clock and he was pretty far from the basket.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 24, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
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