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Open Game Thread #14: Bulls at Denver Nuggets

Chicago Bulls at Denver Nuggets, Nov 23, 2008 8:00 PM CST


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Let's see if we can get a W here!

Go Bulls.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yep

http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)

by bull83 on Nov 23, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I predict Hughes

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to think this

But eventually Luol’s going to come back, and VDN is going to have to choose between BG and Hughes as the starting 2-guard (unless we permanently go small, which I can’t see).

I think we all know what (awful) decision he’ll be making there. Ugh.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

gj noah

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you're surprised? :)

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nauseous

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

nice start

let’s keep like this

did anyone notice that bg is defending Billups??

http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)

by bull83 on Nov 23, 2008 8:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ben is going to get abused by billups

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

again at the rim.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Nov 23, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gray already!?!?

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah is probably tired

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Nov 23, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Remember

The game is taking place at elevation. All of the “shifts” should be shorter today, and minutes might just be down across-the-board for the regulars.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep it up Larry

Your trade value is starting to climb!

by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Larry Hughes doing the things that he needs to do to be successful

I hate to keep harping on this, but when Larry drives and slashes, he’s pretty good.

by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I just wish he was doing it on another team.

As a former point guard, you’d think he’d consider passing every now and then.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noah and Gray didn't play a single minute last game

And they’re playing large roles tonight. Vinny is lol

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Did you guys hear the story on one of the recent Bulls Beats

About how Skiles was like petrified of Ben Wallace? And he was literally afraid to make decisions against or ever call out the Corpse?

I can’t possibly imagine why this would be the case, but I can only imagine that VDN has the same fear of Larry Hughes.

(Pardon to Doug @ Bulls Beat if I misrepresented any of that).

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Get Gray out of there

They’re purposely switching to match up against him

by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I've never gotten that sense

He was a spectacular player at Cincinnati and has been a good player, when healthy, in The League.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just remembered how good he was in NJ...

and how bad he was when he didn’t have Jason Kidd throwing him lob passes.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noce seems to have dropped in VDN's rotation.

4 subs have come in and still no Noce!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 8:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wow i would hate to be a nuggets fan

the most undisciplined basketball…might as well be a game at the local ymca

by swede2287 on Nov 23, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus, lol

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 8:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh my fucking god

This has been hard to watch. Blech.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that dribble move from Rose

Is elite level ball handling.

Wow.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Nov 23, 2008 8:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is this?

Melo, Smith, Balkman, Carter and Kleiza against DRose, Noce, Thabo, Hunter and Thomas?

Is there a center in the building?

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 8:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

adrian dantley is a Nuggets assistant

Suit him up. The game needs him.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Nov 23, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus making those passes is one of the worst things he does

he has good vision, he saw an open Thabo, but it’s like he has no concept of how to throw a touch pass. He whips one of those passes past a confused teammate about once a game.

by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 8:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OMFG

I’m so tired of Tyrus throwing the ball away. And not getting back on defense. And not playing good man to man defense. And not running the break. And not hitting jump shots. And sucking.

Just had to get that off my chest.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 8:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Time for Rose to take over.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noce is such a fucking moron

He never ever EVER sets an actual screen, then decides he wants to run into somebody for an obvoius whistle.

Another breakaway. This is f’ing disgusting.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The NBA needs to get rid of free throws

It’s destroying the game and destroying the league. Find a solution so the game can flow and go by quicker.

by wilsoneads on Nov 23, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Drew Gooden

Get your lazy ass back on defense. Why doesn’t this team no how to get back on defense?

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Soft coaching that cowtows to overpaid and clearly inferior veterans?

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey! We're battling back!

DRose is the key to this thing! (Well, him and Gooden not shooting from 20ft out, Hughes not falling in love with his three point shooting, Noah providing good post defense, TT driving and blocking shots, Gordon shooting without not hogging the ball, Noce playing better defense…)

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

hughes to the hole again

i like him when he does this stuff

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Okay, hughes is having a nice enough game.

Hope he continues taking it to the rim (cautiously eyeing hughes)

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ben stops dribbling

at the worst times

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Our big men

Just stand there and let Denvers big men shoot wide open jumpers.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 8:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Drew

Awesome defense!!…not

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 8:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

did the crowd really just do the slow clap

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It just isn't.

They aren’t even pretending to try and defend. I think I saw gooden put his hands together to give a driving Nene a boost on his way up to the rim. Such a gentleman.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why Drew Gooden should only be a 4.

He’s actually productive then.

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Our interior D is a giant black hole

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd welcome that

It’d probably suck in the short run, but its become more and more evident that BG has no future on this team.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we can trade Gordon...

Without his permission, unless I’m mistaken.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But hey!

The Clips would welcome him. That way Baron, Gordon and ZBo can take 90% of the shots and leave 10% to everyone else.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hughes is 0-4 from 3-point land

He’s made all his driving shots and missed all his threepointers.

Can’t he take a hint?

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

noah

should play Pf. he isnt fit to play center. I always liked him more at Pf. There are like 5 power forwards on the team and one Center. I dont want to hear this whole positions in the nba dont matter anymore because we have no interior defense and that matters. Its amazing that this team can even compete like that.

by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah

Blows. He needs to be traded immediatly…along with Thomas.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

disagree

they’re young – we expect mistakes

can’t say the same for gooden…

by swede2287 on Nov 23, 2008 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I keep wanting to say that, too

But its getting harder to do so by the day.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noah is fucking awful

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

he got fouled, but you can’t cry about it, that’s a three point swing.

by chicagodogg79 on Nov 23, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

he still has no post moves. that was so weak

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

they should call Anthony Mason

to show Noah and Gray how to rape the post.

by chicagodogg79 on Nov 23, 2008 9:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

great momentum buster right there

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ladies and gentleman:

the stylings of Larry Hughes.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah is a god damn joke.

He better not see another minute in this game. He is getting torched.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noah:

Unlucky 13

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that

obviously was afoul. dont blame noah but he should control himself.

by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It was a foul

that’s true. But to get a ball that close to the basket and be so physically weak as to not even get a shot off is pathetic.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew

Noah was a horrible pick the second we drafted him. I was calling for Spencer Hawes…

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You better make that shot, Ben.

Fuck you for not passing to Rose

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gordon should have passed there

I’m happy it went in, but c’mon…really?

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 9:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Damn you Ben Gordon

You and your contract year!

by chicagodogg79 on Nov 23, 2008 9:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I hope that no one thinks that was a great shot, it was pure luck

and horrible basketball, typical of Gordon and his phoney box score.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

John Pax loves picking

offensively challenged big men. Watch this upcoming draft he’ll pick Hasheem Thabeet or something.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Rose is the only guy who should have the ball at the end of the shot clock

I don’t give a shit if that shot by BG went in. If Hughes did that, he’d be crucified.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious:

we can still win.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit, the Pistons got blown out at home by the T-Wolves

The AI thing isn’t working out so well.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Nov 23, 2008 9:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly that trade was terrible for them...

Billups did so many things for that team that will be missed.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Too early to tell

Remember that trade was about cap room too.

by robinhood on Nov 23, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cap room is a different story...

But Billups gave that team a good identity and got people involved. Plus he’s a stronger PG and can defend so much better than AI.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, break down of the team:

Derrick: only a 1
Lindsay: only a 1
Kirk: 1 or 2
Ben: only a 2
Larry: ONLY A 2 GODDAMNIT!
Thabo: 2 or 3
Luol: only a 3
Noce: a 3 or 4
Drew: ONLY A 4 GODDAMNIT!
Tyrus: only a 4
Noah: 4 or 5
Gray: only a 5

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fax to Pax

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean VDN

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I think he means Pax...

How the hell are we supposed to compete when our 5 is Noah or Gray? Not VDN’s fault.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Following that,

a rotation:
PG: Derrick plays 35 Kirk plays 10 Lindsay plays 3
SG: Ben plays 30 Kirk plays 10 Larry plays 5 Thabo plays 3
SF: Luol plays 30 Noce plays 10 Thabo plays 8
 PF: Drew plays 25 Tyrus plays 15 Noah plays 5 Noce plays 3
C: Noah plays

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The center rotation won't work now while Noah's so totally out of shape/etc.:

I like your PG/SG[replace Larry’s 5 with more Thabo/Lindsay]/SF minutes, but even with the horribleness it entails I’d go 20/20/8 [Drew/Tyrus/Noce] on PF, and 22/18/8 [Noah/Gray/Gooden] on C. I don’t think Noah will be able to handle ~30 minutes a game right now.
Also, some of your numbers don’t add to 48. [28+17=45? :P]

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 24, 2008 1:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noah gets abused by the Refs, and his teammates

Noah never gets a call on the offensive end, and that has to add up in his mind over time.

The reason that he has so many fouls on defense is that the Bulls don’t have a single plalyer who can man up on defense. So Noah is constantly picking up other guys and drawing fouls, and when he does no one picks up his man, so that when he rotates back to his man, he ends up in a position where his only option is to foul.

If everyone on the team played help defense as much as he does we would be a much better unit. This is what we used to do prior to the team quiting on skiles last season.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You must not have paid attention tonight...

he’s fallen asleep on D at least 3 times. He’s completely lost.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The way that we are playing team defense right now

it is hard to tell who is responsible for what and who isn’t falling asleep or just not trying.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It isn't helping him any, and causes a lot of his foul problems

He has enough of his own issues to be burdened with shitty teammates.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot Noce.

He is sucking quite a bit the past few games. I’m getting a bit down on him

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's some truth to this

but Noah reciprocates the defensive suck, which puts Gray et al in the same position.

by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we traded any of them to a veteran squad, I bet the vets would cover up for a lot of their mistakes

They’d end up playing better, and we wouldn’t hear the end of how bad such a trade was.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That is a good point.

TT on the Celtics would become “all he needed was a fresh start. Shame on the Bulls for not waiting and developing him.”

And all because he would have KG and Perkins covering for his bonehead mistakes.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For a guy who wasn't supposed to be a good shooter, Rose

is already the best jump shooter on the Bulls.

Yes, that includes Gordon, who may have deeper range right now, but is not a better overall shooter

Roses elevation is awesome, notice that he lands forward from where he takes off to shoot, this is the mark of a good shooter, who has learned proper technique. Kerr and Paxson always did this. Guys who fall into the habit of falling backward usaully have problems, as Gordon does often.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If Hughes would just limit his offensive options to only:

shooting OPEN 3s or driving to the basket, he might be able to help us out

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 23, 2008 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I will say this:

Noah has been very active on the offensive glass tonight which is great to see

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

NICE TURNOVER!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

OH!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

sportscenter...

Rose-Diculous

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, what a ridiculous move by Rose.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Drew

Nene can make that shot. You might want to contest it.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Uneven game

Both teams unable to get a rhythm going

by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What is

Gooden going? He never contests a jump shot!

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

By the way since I don't live in Chicago

maybe you local insiders know if Godon happens to be gay, he sure carries himself as if he is, not there’s anything wrong with that, just ask that English guy who disappeared from the league.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Anatomy of our team:

Rose>Deng>Gordon>Kirk>Noce>Gooden>Noah>Tyrus>Larry>Thabo>Lindsay>Gray

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Larry

is better than Tyrus and Noah….

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Larry

is worse than Gray.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 24, 2008 1:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ben

stop picking the ball up at the horriblist times ever

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Perfect example, whos guarding Martin, whos guarding Billups

Noah just got that foul on Martin after helping on Billups. Neither one of those guys are “his” man, Nene is. So who the fuck is guarding the two guys that Naoh just picked up a foul by trying to guard them both.

In the first half, everytime he turned around Martin was flying down the lane as if nobody was guarding him, and most of the time there wasn’t.

I’m not saying that Noah is the second coming, he may never even become a legitimate starting center, but he really is the least of our worries right now.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Noc/Gray frontcourt.

Game over.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

dont forget

hughes is still in i believe. that has to be the worst front three in the nba. maybe the Thunder can match that.

by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What really depresses me is Nene has 17pts.

KMart has 15pts and it’s just the 3rd quarter. They look like AllStars against our bigs.

ON the flipside, Melo just has 10 and Billups has 9.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how bad we would be losing

if denver didn’t suck ass at freethrow shooting

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DERRICK

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I mean, that was right in Rose's eye

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh my god

Aaron Gray actually tipped it to himself for a change, instead of the other team

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

bad noc

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

gray

the site of a lumbering gray wit his hands up calling for the consistently is terrifying. regardless of how hes playing.

by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

so funny

and so true

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WOO GORDON

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yes!!!

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i didn't know Manny Ramirez played for the nuggets

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was watching Survivor Series

how has our front court played?

by Tobo on Nov 23, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

we are "Surviving"

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

GRAY

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Smart play there. Good on him.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

MUWAHAHA

Gray is hugeness.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 9:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Microcosm of BG's game

Dribbles off his foot for a TO, then coverts a four-point play.

by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 9:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

And then Gray gets a bucket and a foul!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gray

Is a better player than Noah. And I’m serious with this statement.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

You may be converting me.

Need to see a bit more though.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're also

wrong.
[IMHO.]
Noah was pretty awesome last year. He needs to get into game shape. He is not in game shape. His entire game is based off energy and hustle.

He needs to work on that.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 24, 2008 1:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon gets the pass,

drives, loses it, gets it back up, drops it, Gray reaches for it, misses, falls down trying to get, still can’t reach it, starts crawling to it, foul called.

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you must be watching an internet feed

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben misses an open 3.

How is this?!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

wasnt that

thabo? completely open

by Sambossanova on Nov 23, 2008 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh whoops

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL all the time in the world

clank

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol

this is why we are one of the worst shooting teams in the nBA. that’s pathetic.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

you and illini15

are confusing the hell out of me with your similar names

stop it!

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I give Thabo credit for a nice O rebound...

but make a wide open shot. I wonder how many shots he puts up a day in the gym.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thank god Nene's back in, maybe they'll stop looking for Gray

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Nov 23, 2008 9:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

But Gray did pretty well in the last few mins.

Who knows what he could have done had Nene not stepped in.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Gray is just now processing what happened.

I’m pretty sure he thinks in slow motion too.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gray can not be counted on to catch an Oop

… or anything

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He can blame Gray

But unless Aaron is already jumping, that is a bad pass

by RogersPark Kris on Nov 23, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

injured

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Can somebody

tell me what Hunters shooting stats are this game? He keeps bricking these open shots.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

1-5

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

LOL

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

1-5

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

1-5 FG 0-3 3P

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF IS THIS LINEUP VINNY

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Not 4-guard

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

GET OFF THE FLOR NOC

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Vinny is trying to lose the game

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The shot clocks arent working

Wheres Johnny Red Kerr at…

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

what is the

deal with this Rose-Hunter backcourt? dumb…

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If Rose is there, it's not so dumb.

Try a Hughes-Hunter backcourt. Ugh!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet foul Larry

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

forever?

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

He’s got 13 pts in 13 shot attempts with 5 fouls (including a 3 foul)

he might as well be playing for the other team

by SethS on Nov 23, 2008 10:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

woooo more Hunter!

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bums

Standing around.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Go noce!

Heat up, dang it!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

he actually drew contact this time at least

and let out a big “OOOOFFF” to make sure the refs noticed

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, he got the charge!

That’s good enough for me!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Time to make a run!

No Billups, no Melo!

Go make your run!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What is this f-ing lineup?!!>

Hunter, Rose, Gordon, Nocioni? How the fuck willl they rebound? defend?

Fire VDN. Seriously. He’s an idiot.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

D-Rose

here we go…time to take over.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DRose time!

cold dagger jumpers pls! Just like the ones against GS!

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good pass

gooden just isn’t quite good enough around the basket

by SethS on Nov 23, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Swoosh!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Funk is just waiting to rip on Gordon lol

He says with enthusiasm: "And there’s Gordon JACKING’’

….and making.

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oh no, The Three Midget Lineup returns

Rose, Gordon and Hunter on the floor together, are you kidding me. And I thought we got rid of Duhon for a reason.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Notice the difference

between Godon’s last 2 shots, the one that he made he was “falling” forward into his shot the one he missed he was falling backward away from his shot, just a basic fundamental of shooting.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 10:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Also, Ben has been really efficient tonight.

28 points on 12 (!) shots so far, 5 assists and just 2 TOs.

by fundamentallysound on Nov 23, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

NOC

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Emmy award right there

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me?

THAT was our inbounds play?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They're sixth in the NBA in Def Eff coming into tonight, they're a lot better than most give credit for

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan

by snley on Nov 23, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's making em.

Nice flop Noce, saved us 3 points!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 23, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Were we in zone?

WTF?

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 10:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

WORST. DEFENSE. EVER.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gee, I don't know why we can't get a rebound

when the combined height of the 5 guys on the court is under 32 feet.

by BigWay on Nov 23, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They're just lost on defense

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

great interior defense

It’s like watching a buncha retards trying to hump a doorknob out there!

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

lol

Sorry but we’re not winning this game. Not with this pathetic lineup.

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I can take another season of this.

On nights when Rose isn’t asserting himself, its tough to watch.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fuck VDN

fuck VDN, fuck VDN. For playing Gooden/Nocioni against K-Mart/Nene. For guarding Melo with Gordon. For playing Hunter this much.

He’s a joke. As is Paxson for hiring him.

Goodnight all.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

oh, they are

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hughes FTL

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Haha

I come home to see Aaron Gray playing with 4 mintutes to go in the 4th

Vintage

by gobulls1124 on Nov 23, 2008 10:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i started to watch at the same time

and i see larry hughes blow a rotation and let billups go to the rim and then brick a wide open 3

by Orange Juice on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Derrick

quit passing the damn ball. Take over…your supporting cast is horrendous

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wish we stuck with Noce or Hunter.

Hughes comes in, shoots, misses, Denver scores.

Hughes shoots again, misses again, Denver scores again.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Chauncey

B-B-B-B-BURN IN HELL

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YOU GORDON

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ben Gordon highlight reel.

I hate you Ben. Please leave soon.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well...

That’s it.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

did that go off his foot?

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yes...

Surprised?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

shocked

and then when he was lying down on his stomach afterwards…never seen that before either

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck this

I have had it with these fucking team. The Coach sucks, the GM sucks, the players suck. How we have 6 wins is beyond me…

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm Pick n Roll beats us again

where have we seen this before…

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who's counting?

Im fixing the rope on the ceiling beam and the chair to stand on.

by PatBull on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Completely outclassed

in the last 5 min, pathetic.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

if you're going to lose, look like you're going to lose earlier

don’t blow the game in the last 5 min … like getting outscored 20-5 or something like that

by Orange Juice on Nov 23, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you're the BEST BULLS FAN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!!!!!!

jesus fucking christ

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Watching SNF and then it went to hell

Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.

In Vinny We Trust!

by DRose#1 on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

LOL 3rd chance

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

and it ends with a 3

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually both these teams suck...

Denver shouldn’t celebrate this win at all.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yea that really makes losing shitty easier.

Hey they shouldnt celebrate we suck even more.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

None of this is easy...

Who ever said it was?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt say it was supposed to be easy.

I just hate sugar coating games where nothing was honestly learned from a single player.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sugar coating anything...

We suck and so does Denver, period.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nuggets sure look jacked up

for beating a team like the bulls at home. I don’t know maybe i’m just sorry

by robinhood on Nov 23, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In a way its good they lost.

If they won this one, it’d reinforce the idea that they could play D like that and still be competitive.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

RIGHT

cause they have changed anything from playing bad d for 13 games….

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Slow learners?

I’m grasping at straws

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see his fucking lineups?

And why can’t he ban Ben Gordon from handling the ball?

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Look

At our last 5-6 games….how many points we have given up. Absolutely pathetic. I can’t stand this team anymore. Something needs to happen NOW. If Paxson doesn’t make a god damn trade….ugh

by illini23 on Nov 23, 2008 10:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ok what the hell happened down the stretch? I was watching the football.

Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.

In Vinny We Trust!

by DRose#1 on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ben gordon happened

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Nov 23, 2008 10:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

more like

“we couldn’t defend somebody at a pickup game at the nursing home” happened

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and Larry Hughes happened

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 23, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol poor gooden

LOL

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

2010

Ill make my decision on this management.

Love the bulls till the day i die.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Might as well make your decision now...

The only thing that will happen in 2010 is that we’ll offer max money to three guys, I’m pretty sure every team that can, will.

Every day that we trot out Noah and Gray and expect to compete is another nail in the coffin for management as far as I am concerned.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It'll be the Summer of 2000 all over again.

Benny the Bull will be at the airport and everything.

by Dalibored on Nov 23, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't it be funny if McGradyand Hill showed up too...

And asked if we were still willing to pay them Max money.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i thought noah did alright

9 boards, active. Gray can score but he kills us on d especially transition. only 2 more years til wade comes home.

by armstrong2389 on Nov 23, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The biggest theme of this road trip/season

Bulls dominated inside again.

Martin and Nene combine 17-23, 47 points.

Just horrible.

by CJ Bulls on Nov 23, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Disjointed game from Rose, but he still put up 15 - 6 - 2 - 2

I can feel good about this. Last year, I would’ve just jammed a pencil in my eye.

by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I can't express how pissed I am with VDN

right now. That lineup was the biggest pile of horseshit I’ve ever seen. Worse than the Skiles era. Worse than the Boylan era. The Bulls were winning, then they they shovel this untenable manure-mixture onto the court. The worst defensive interior players EVER. The smallest guards EVER. Honestly, think about this – even Duhon, Hinrich and Gordon were bigger than Hunter, Rose and Gordon. Then this slick, pompadour-working glorified anouncer has the temerity to act outraged when they don’t play defense or rebound. Well. They. Can’t.

He’s the worst coach in the league, bar none. Nor do I think it’s close. No other coach caves to spoilt veterans as readily as VDN. No other coach has as disorganized an offense (or lack of an offense). No other coach plays such absurd lineups. And that’s not even considering the defense (or again, lack thereof).

We could’ve had D’Antoni. That’s what’s killing me.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

On the other hand,

having written that, I feel much better.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont

I wish for D’Antoni to magically appear as the bulls coach every night.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I do.

The Knicks have a winning record with garbage. We have a losing record with talent.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Reread my post

I said i dont feel better. I do wish dor D’Antoni every night.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

sorry; I saw the title and it confused me.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Np

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

but we saved money!!!

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yea i think thabo deserved more time in the 4th

wat was it 16-30 in the fourth? thats pitifull

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Nov 23, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not trying to tempt the wrath you are obviously feeling but...

Who else should the Bulls play when Hinrich and Deng are hurt? Isn’t it really MGMT’s fault we don’t have any real players beyond Rose?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

More TT, Noah, and Thabo

and less Gray, Hughes, and Noce could’ve helped.

by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The line-ups VDN threw out there were destined to fail.

Seeing those line-ups, I got the feeling in my gut that hits me whenever Gordon pounds the ball with 10 seconds left in the quarter/half/game.

Even worse, Noah/TT/Thabo showed signs productivity early and then just disappeared.

by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When has TT, Noah, or Thabo ever been a consistent positive factor, especially late?

Every lineup VDN puts out there is destined to fail because we don’t have good players. I’m not saying anything profound there, but it’s more a commentery on management.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not disagreeing with your commentary on management

but last I checked, we’re still trying to develop our young “talent.” So it doesn’t make too much sense to pull them after promising starts in favor of the likes of Gray and Hughes, who haven’t done any more to make the case for their minutes.

by drew gooden's facial growth on Nov 23, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

that Pax shares in the blame. However:

Rose – Gordon – Thabo – Gooden – Noah
Hunter – Hughes – Nocioni – Thomas – Gray

These are players in their natural position. Or something like it.

I know that VDN can’t magically create another Derrick Rose. I just wish he would but play the best players, and play them in their position. That’s all.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 23, 2008 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think VDN and Pax are both dead men walking.

Unless we get a magical trade and somebody like a Pau Gasol falls into our lap.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trades don't grow on trees

Pax just can’t make a trade happen.

by robinhood on Nov 23, 2008 10:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wierd....

but he had so many opportunities in the past.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Noah with the only positive +/-

at +7

I know the stat is kinda meaningless. but just throwing it out there

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Probably had his size 15's hanging off the bench on the floor...

When Gordon was going nuts with 3’s. Only logical explanation.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 23, 2008 10:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was flat-out wrong on that one

I really wanted Noah, and thought Hawes would be a bust. I was really, really wrong on Hawes.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 11:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i was the opposite

i wanted hawes when the draft took place. but after seeing that he got injured all last season, and noah actucally playing okay last year, i figured maybe its ok we got noah. but now i back to original thought of hawes

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Nov 24, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

postgame thread is up

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2008 10:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

TT

just got lost on the bench

Didnt understand that after his two nice drives to the hoop without the ball.

What to do, with Larry Hughe?

by Rudey on Nov 23, 2008 10:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Because the players who got all the minutes never turned the ball over, right?

There was a promise to develop players, one on which VDN has failed to deliver on.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 23, 2008 11:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One mistake:

BANISHED TO THE BENCH FOREVER!
Rose better not make a mistake, we’ll all be waiting to bench him, amirite?

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 24, 2008 1:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it was a bad pass

but he was put in a rough spot, there were only like 5 seconds left in the shot clock and he was pretty far from the basket.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 24, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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