Open Game Thread #13 OVERFLOW: Bulls at Golden State Warriors
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 21, 2008 11:45 PM CST
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Derrick Rose
Ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod….
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
by Jivas on Nov 21, 2008 11:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The one thing this franchise (and this fan) can't endure is an injury to Derrick
Rose.
I thought he kneed in the nuts, but now it looks more serious. Hip bruise.
Damn it, he literally looked unstoppable in the fourth quarter. That fade away off the glass was sick.
Now we have to wait for the injury reports.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If it was serious
he would have gone to the locker room. He just needs to learn to protect himself. No biggie.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chi radio says hip pointer/hip bruise.
Could be code for “my balls hurt.”
The guy is even better than I imagined, and I had high expectations.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vinny was joking with him
on his way to the locker room. It really looks like nothing.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fluky shooting nights from Hughes and Hunter
But a solid 18 and 16 from Gooden, and we survive another off night from Gordon. And holy fucking crap, Derrick Rose is unbelievable.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
by Jivas on Nov 22, 2008 12:02 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Thabo
looked good today.
Hopefully we have more adventures in small sample size next game, I want to see if he can keep this up.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ditto, I was really liking what I saw out of Thabo...
his D was solid and he took what they gave him. And a few 3’s even fell for him! Like seeing him in the 3 spot as well (or was he the 4 tonight? Who knows…)
by smash! on Nov 22, 2008 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, who coulda foreseen this?
I cannot believe this guy is on our team!
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 12:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It was seriously ridiculous;
and so damn exciting to watch. Good night all. Great win!
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the boxscore..uh what the...WHAT THE F*CK ?1?
So Hughes is good as both teams agree not to play defense(Nellieball) ?
Ditto for Thabo.
But Gordon regressed?
Strange, strange game.
by KentuckyBullsFan on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gordon regressed? I guess his defense was down this game? Maybe the rebounds
Hughes pops 5/7 from 3 pt land sinks 26, has more steals in 5 games than Gordon in 12, close to the same rebounds as Noah or Grady in only his 5th game back from an awesome preseason, and headline is Rose has 24. Hate to to let air out of the reincarnation of Michael, but its 12 games, don’t make anyone a HERO or blast the new coach (when his support staff has coached more games than you have watched, so don’t sweat the rookie crap).
Thabo, now there is everyone’s replacement for Hughes, what is he’ about 7% from 3 point range over 3 years now and the concern is someone that can hit from the 3 point line? Then steals, damn, a defensive powerhouse.
Rose is great, a couple of veteran point guards are coming his way right when he hits that 25 game mark, his average games played over the past five years with High School. Let’s see what he has against a solid point guard and a big man in the paint (better stay out of that house, the paint, if he wants to see 50 games this year.
by Know on Nov 22, 2008 2:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Off" Night from Gordon?
That’s the only kind of night Gordon has. He’ll post back to back 30 point nights to get everybody’s hopes up, then shoot 35% the next 10 games. Please get rid of him. PLEASE.
by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
You do know
that what you just said was inherently wrong, right?
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
that Gordon’s PER in the season so far is something like 19.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gordon sucked tonight.
Or did you not watch the game…he continued his selfish play, taking bad shots, turning the ball over, all the while continually getting abused on the defensive end by Jackson…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty predictable by you
Jackson abused everyone who guarded him tonight…especially Thabo and Hughes…or did you just choose to ignore that part?
He had a +/- of 0 tonight…which means he was neither good nor bad…he held his own. Also, might I add that he tied for TOs tonight with Rose, at 5 apiece…but I guess you chose to ignore that too.
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stats to the rescue.
Did you watch the game…and see Gordon dribble off his leg or lose the ball dribbling behind his back? Did you see the consecutive possessions in the second quarter when Jackson backed him into the post and scored…did you see Gordon miss his rotation on a Maggette drive?
I don’t understand what the performance of other players has to do with the performance of Gordon…I mean, Gordon sucks and Rose turns the ball over…those two things are independent of one another…if another player does something poorly, it does not excuse the player in question from his shortcomings…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 12:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but to cherry pick Gordon's shortcomings is easy
you seem to have it down pat. How can you cherry pick Gordon “turning the ball over”, but not Rose? How can you cherry pick Gordon “getting abused by Jackson”, but nobody else?
Did you not watch Noc on defense tonight? He was beyond horrid.
You’re pretty lame for constantly cherry picking the bad things Gordon does, when it’s more than obvious he was doing some positive things out there tonight.
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just checking
but isn’t rose a rookie and this is gordon’s 4th year in the league?
by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 1:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cherry-picking?
Give me a break. You make it sound like ppl are reaching here. Did you watch the game? In his 41 min, tell me what BG did well?
A blind man can see how terrible BG has been this trip. And this is what he does, on and off, every year. Just because he started out the season shooting well for a change, that doesn’t mean we haven’t seen this crappy play before. We’ve seen it over and over again. He’s the best, then he’s the worst. He is incapable of being consistent. Great teams need consistently great players. That’s why I don’t see him being a Bull after this year.
If his jump shot isn’t falling, or if he can’t get it off, he doesn’t contribute. And his jump shot hasn’t fallen this trip, and he hasn’t been able to create, yet Vinny has kept him in the game so we’re stuck with a black hole at guard. I’m not even going to pick on his D, but when he’s not contributing on the O end it’s hard to watch the other guards, all of whom are clearly better defenders, sit on the bench.
His stats the last three games are pretty bad. 16 for 49 from the field, 4 for 21 from the arc. Perfect from the line, but only 11 trips there, including 0 yesterday. 10 TOs, 4 stl, 1 blk, 10 ast, and 7 rebs (5 in LA, but only 1 in PORT & GS) total on this trip. The alarming part for me is this is while he’s averaging a team high 36 min/game- including a team high 41 against GSW.
Just last night did you see him dribble the ball off his foot out-of-bounds in the back court with no opponent around? How about when he tried to dribble behind his back seconds later and his left arm forgot it was supposed to be on the receiving end of the dribble and instead he elbowed the ball out of bounds? How many charges did he have? The most offensive one to me was when they put the ball in his hands at the end of the game and he tried to create for himself: beeline left to the baseline just in time to put his head down and get called for a charge. Ug.
This is nothing new. The shocking part to me is that at least half of this fanbase on BaB- who probably all remembers what a championship caliber team looks like- really thinks BG deserves the money he’s asking and the starting spot he desires. I don’t.
by smash! on Nov 22, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
He is a streaky offensive player, and when he is cold, the coaching staff needs to put him on the bench.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ben gordon is pretty consistent
for not giving the ball to rose when he calls for it, and of course closing out quarters. i mean he added something last night to the colse out. not only did he lose the ball off the foot, but he also got a foul leading to 2 GSW free throws. see, he’s added something to his game if u ask me.
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
by Yibs on Nov 22, 2008 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and most of the time
when rose makes a move to end the quarter, good things happen… :P
by Jaina on Nov 22, 2008 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was pointing out that if Gordon has both good and bad games, he cannot just have bad games,
and also what Norm said.
He’s had a couple of bad shooting nights in a row but he’s still been contributing with drives and playing [what’s looked to me like] decent defense, something he hasn’t done before.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All I know is that Gordon's terrible
And that if it’s not inherently right, it’s pretty darned close. The guy is an inconsistent ballhog who makes rookie mistakes. He needs to go bye-bye.
by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 12:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He is terribly inconsistant. I don’t want us to resign him at all…Let some other team overpay for him. I was getting ripped for saying we should let him go and draft Steph Curry if no good bigmen are availible. Curry is more consistant, better defensively, and is a better ball handler.
by illini23 on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he has
a season average of 19.5 PER…the ONLY Bull in the top 50…
…I agree, let’s can this guy. He can take his 20ppg and stuff them in a sack and leave!!
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 12:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So ya'll didn't start Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes?
:)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We did start Larry Hughes.
So we barely escaped from this one.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck, pissed I didn't get to see this one.
Sounds like Rose was unbelievable.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No matter what, do yourself a favor and find a clip of his fourth
quarter dunk. He beat a double team with a sick cross over, beat a third defender down the lane, then rose up and dunked with one hand.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to see this, like, right now.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just watch the 2nd half
if you find a replay
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
any idea where I could find a replay link?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
How the heck did he find a jump shot sooo fast?
by SK23 on Nov 22, 2008 12:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's always had it. He just hid it for the scouts
hahhahaha whats up now
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He comes ou hours before each game and practices
jumpers.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That shot is...
just so good. Not only that it was going in. Three things: he gets up very high, he gets up very quickly, and he’s balanced. Rare.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still like BG and wanna keep him here, but I no longer think he NEEDS to stay
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 12:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think thats how i feel about hinrich
not starting an argument but i think gordon and hinrich are good guards who can contribute but will be absolete due to the greatness that is rose.
getting rid of both makes more sense than keeping one due to the weaknesses in thier games.
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Nov 22, 2008 1:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when people wanted to draft Beasley?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
im sorry
i didnt believe… i didnt know… the stories were true… a point god does exist!
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Nov 22, 2008 1:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was one of those people.
Man was I WRONG! D. Rose is a beast.
by robinhood on Nov 22, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who could have known the returns would have been this good this early?
I think anyone who called for Beasley will be glad to admit they were wrong.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like Beasley AND Rose
We would need to put a gun to Riley’s head for him to agree to this trade=
by Granny Waiters on Nov 22, 2008 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew this game would be amazing when I saw it on the schedule
Yet I still miss the whole thing. Someone please enlighten me with a quick recap?
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Rose.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Hughes maybe tradable now.HOPE.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Rose's Dunk!!
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:29 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
I love you
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you too sweety
oh…oh you meant derrick….awkward.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rec this bitchin comment-video up
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Put some nasty music in there.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After this game
DR is OFFICIALLY A Leader of this team.Fuck that rookie shit!
He is a Go To guy,mark this one,Ben.
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
After Biedrins tipped home a shot to cut Chicago’s lead to 107-104 with 2:26 left, Rose hit a difficult pull-up jumper and then put a finger to his lips while staring down the rowdy Oakland crowd.
MUST. SEE.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I didn't see the hushing motion live.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe I missed this game
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Was it on the sick fade away off the glass?
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I did not catch that.
ahhhh i want to see it
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just back from the game
rose did indeed give the Dubs fans the sign of the kiss off after he drained a sick J
also looked like he had an ice pack on his balls as he went to the LR
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
which shot??
the fade off the glass?
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it was a his last 18 footer after fribbling around Biedrins
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh damn
I want video of THAT
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was the shot right before he got the wide open dunk with three dubs watching
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 22, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Rose
Going to be injury prone? Hopefully not. This team will not win a game without him in the lineup…no way.
by illini23 on Nov 22, 2008 12:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, let's see if he is even injured first.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was a shot to the nads i think
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he might have reaggravated his hip..
by illini23 on Nov 22, 2008 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Previously, he had a hip flexor strain.
This time, it is a hip bruise, per radio.
I think those are different types of injury.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, Noah didn't play a single minute tonight?
What the fuck?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
match-ups!
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hilarious we played to their strengths
…yet somehow still won. VDN is clueless.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on ESPN
I don’t want to listen to Stephan A. Smith wet himself over the Knicks’ possibility of Lebron and Bosh in 2010
Just show some damn highlights
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love how the media is reporting the trade as if New York had already signed
LeBron and Amare.
It’s completely irrational jubilation.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Before everyone wets themselves
(for some it’s already WAY too late)…please remember that GS plays NO defense. They are completely horrible…as defensive individuals and as a team.
Not to slight what Rose or anyone else did, because he had a great game…but let’s calm down about how “great” of a game this was
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 12:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
agreed-- it was sloppy play by both teams.
We were horrible on any kind of inside-defense.
Rose made up for it, thank goodness
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because this is the first time he's dropped 20 + this season.
He’s never done it against other teams. O, wait.
And you would think that Ben Gordon might have a better game against a team that plays no defense.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what are you bitching about
I said Rose had a great game…good grief! Realistically, we should’ve won by 15.
You guys kill me focusing in when Gordon has a bad shooting night. Did ANYBODY see Noc play tonight? I’m just saying…because he played like complete shit. Did everybody close their eyes when Noc was on the floor?
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 12:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Noc's game have to do with Gordon's?
Two crappy nights does not a good argument make.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 12:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you mention one
you must mention the other.
Stop trying to do the whole “this doesn’t have anything to do with that” argument. It’s weak.
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's weak...
Is the only defense you have for Gordon’s bad is that others also play bad…like that somehow justifies it….
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 1:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what's weak
is you never mentioning when anyone else has a “bad” game except for Gordon
cherry pick…cherry pick…cherry pick
You should have enough fruit to last you through the spring by now.
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, in other words/
You concede that Gordon sucked yet again tonight…and you think I am an ass for pointing it out…sounds like someone else around here…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 1:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i never called you an "ass"
your word, not mine.
In any event, I stand by my post above. Gordon definitely wasn’t good tonight by any means, but that doesn’t mean he “sucked” or played a bad game either. He did some positive things out there.
If you want to point that out, that’s fine…but please explain why you only feel compelled to point out Ben’s so-called “bad” games but nobody else’s??
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think my last question would get answered
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Ben Gordon
Gets an unreasonable amount of love on this board…
I don’t pick on the rook because he is a rook and Noc pretty evenly valued by most fans here…no one thinks he is the second best player on the team…while many of you continue to think Gordon is…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gordon gets an unreasonable amount of love on this board?
I see lots of people criticizing Gordon and a couple people defending him.
And the criticism is generally over the top nonsense that would be dismissed out of hand if it were applied to other players. To me, that indicates the critics mostly criticize because of their skewed perception about what other people think in the first place. In short, you, for example, have some kind of personal thing going on that carries over to how you view games. Which is ok, I guess, but it’s not my cup of tea.
De gustibus non est disputandum
by Sports2 on Nov 22, 2008 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
D2.0, you’re admitting you’re being unreasonably critical on Gordon to try and ‘balance’ out the ‘love’ from others.
Don’t do that.
Say what you legitimately think, if you’re in the minority about an opinion, tough nuggets.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 22, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I said very early on in this thread what I think.
I said Gordon sucked tonight. It wasn’t until the other posters accused of cherry picking or picking on Gordon that I mentioned why criticize his game more closely. And frankly, he’s earned greater scrutiny, because he turned down over $50 million, meaning he thinks he is worth more than that.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well, you now have a rep
congrats.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 23, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious...
Who on this team, besides Rose, is better than Gordan?
by opusthecat on Nov 22, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Ruffin
Maybe Ced Simmons
by Granny Waiters on Nov 22, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If there's anyone who would be getting "unreasonable" love here
It’d be Tyrus. BG has earned most fans’ respect because of what he’s done for this team for 3 winning seasons. He’s not perfect, nor is he going to make any All-Star teams. But, you know what? He’s the best shooting guard we have on our roster, and that’s an undeniable fact. Gordon isn’t Aaron Gray, some scrub who is meaningless to the team’s success.
Why certain people go out of their way to point out Gordon’s failures when everyone but Rose on the team is failing is perplexing to me. Deng deserves probably more criticism given he got the huge deal and is doing his best Swayze impression.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Aaron Gray is perfectly serviceable
for times when the other team puts in a big stiff at the 5. I would not pay Gray much over the minimum salary, however.
by Granny Waiters on Nov 22, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If by 'yet again' you mean 'the third game out of twelve',
then yes?
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 2:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I did, because he was playing atrocious
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 1:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A substantial number of your
posts are transparent apologies for Gordon’s play. So you reflexively defend Gordon, but when the true emerging superstar of the team, the future of the franchise, does the very thing that Gordon is generally incapable of doing (i.e. consistently dominating in the fourth quarter), you admonish the fans to calm down?!
Rose is the best player on this team. By far. He is better than Gordon will ever be. So I don’t think there is anything wrong with being extraordinarily excited about his tremendous fourth quarter performance.
As Neil Funk said on Comcast, the Bulls finally have a true go-to player.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 1:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh my gawd
you think I’m mad because Rose had a good game?! Dude you seriously missed everything I just said then. Even if Gordon would’ve scored 50, I would’ve said the same exact thing…GS’s defense stinks!
I wasn’t telling people to calm down because Rose had a good game…I was saying calm down because we won. We SHOULD’VE won this game….yet people are flying off the deep end like this was a playoff series.
I love what the rook did…regardless of who did what, it still has to be acknowledged that GS stinks. If you choose to ignore that, then so be it.
by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think any1 here hes noch as the big ticket on this team
hes there to do wat he does. but if BG wants to show us what he thinks and says he is, hes not doing a great job of it.
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
by Yibs on Nov 22, 2008 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job VDN
giving key guys small bits of time to rest during the game.
man up!
by exult463 on Nov 22, 2008 12:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
hunter did great filling in for rose
10 pts, 2 helpers, 2 steals.
Hughes played 40+ minutes. wowzers
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been impressed with Hunter
He’s like a sober version of Chris Duhon. I know that doesn’t sound like a big compliment, but it’s not bad for a guy who was on the street a week ago. And he’s only making the league minimum, instead of $4 million a year like Duhon.
Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0
because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger
by Big D on Nov 22, 2008 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
"he's like a sober version of chris duhon"
A+
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 22, 2008 1:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's always had game .. exceeding what I've seem from Duhon thus far
Hunter is a clutch, under rated, very intelligent player. The type of guy that mostly plays smart. Therefore if his physical skills decline he still won’t hurt you badly on the court, and still has some play still remaining in those older bones.
I guess he’ll be released when Kirk heals, yet if Paxson was smart, he would …. (forget it..it’s not worth ..)
man up!
by exult463 on Nov 22, 2008 1:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ehh i dunno
kirk and hunter seemed to play the same kind of game, hunter just plays calmer while kirk plays like he has to look over his shoulder (like he might get traded or something) i may be radical, but id say kirk may even be better than hunter… thats just me though
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Nov 22, 2008 1:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well person ive nevever typed to before
im glad u think so, for im sure u, like me, are a very neutral person and only speak whats true… :)
and my sig lives on…
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....
by piccolomair on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hdthu
Come on now…good defense or not. Rose hits those CLUTCH shots every time with someone in his face…every time….
Where was Ben Gordon huh?
by Half-Life on Nov 22, 2008 1:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Waiting for
the kick-out that never had to happen.
Which is right where he should be.
We do have a point god, after all. :D
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 2:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now Rose has to prep for Billups on Sunday
And a Nuggets team that does not play a super fast pace anymore, with yet another large frontcourt that can beat the shit out of ours.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 1:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanks debbie downer
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 1:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lolz I wasn't trying to be a sad face
I want them to just play up to their competition, and I’d love for Rose to have another big game against the so-called “Mr. Big Shot.”
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 1:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Injury update.
"Rose sat out the final 73 seconds after injuring his hip in a collision with Corey Maggette. He stayed on the bench and stood to cheer his teammates in the final seconds.
“Man, it was a sharp pain that was there for a long time, but I’m all right now,” Rose said. “I’ve just got to ice it and massage it tomorrow. I’m not missing (Sunday’s game at Denver).”"
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=281121009
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 1:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
FINALLY
sportscenter stopped drooling over the Knicks and Lebron/Nash/Bosh and showed some highlights
…except they showed morrow sink 2 jumpers over rose, and then showed rose’s injury. and then the score.
how evil of them. Show the good stuff asshats
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 1:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Right, I just sat through that whole stupid ass NBA fastbreak show
and they didn’t even show the game. Yet there’s a nine minute Knicks-Bucks hilight. Stupid assholes. This is why the NBA struggles, they act like if it ain’t LA, Boston or New York it doesn’t matter. Plus I think Jalen Rose is retarded, he says everything in the same deadpan tone. It’s called voice inflection jerk-off!
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 1:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the Knicks legitimately awesome announcer,
Clyde Frazier, was hilarious about the whole thing. I tuned in for just a few minutes and here’s what he said – Why would a superstar come here when the cubbard’s going to be empty? Why not take max money from another team ready to win? Why would Bosh, a small town guy, want to play with the pressure of NYC? Why would Wade ever want to leave Miami?
It was beautiful. There was actually dead air time. Then the other announcer said, well, everybody wants to play for the greatest city in the world.
Quoth Clyde Frazier: “That’s our arrogance talking. Other people don’t think so.”
::dead silence::
Clyde Frazier: greatest basketball announcer in the universe.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so fucking sick of the Knicks 2010 bullshit already.
Now Jalen Rose is saying that it’s a lock for Lebron AND Bosh to both play for the Knicks. Stupid as hell. And ESPN is just acting like Lebron isn’t even playing for anyone right now. Lebrons not gonna be any bigger just cause he plays for the Knicks. If this bullshit happens I think i’m gonna stop watching the NBA. I’m all for New York having a good team, but the way this shit is going down is just stupid.
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 1:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He will go there
Because they’ll offer him all the money they can. It’ll really start to get interesting when Europe starts stealing players and, in order to compete, the NBA is forced to lift its cap.
by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 1:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he'll go there, but it's a shame how all these media outlets are acting like Cleveland doesn't exist
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 1:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well ESPN is the devil - didn't you know?
They decide everything that happens in sports now. If they need some money, they follow Barry Bonds hitting 73 home runs. If they need some money the year after that (since the story is dead) they talk about how Bonds hit 73 home runs on steroids. They didn’t have to expose that story every single day for four hours a year straight. But they did because why? It makes them monaaaaay!
by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 1:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd laugh my ass off
If LeBron ended up with his buddy Jay-Z in New Jersey.
by RogersPark Kris on Nov 22, 2008 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Brooklyn?
Oh wait, they can’t even build the arena because of the current financial crisis. James is going to NYC or sticking in Cleveland, there’s no other options for him.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
What is so great about NY? I mean the media acts like its the only city in the country with clubs and bars.
by robinhood on Nov 22, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
their owner
isnt jerry reinsdorf. as much as dolan sucks at least he isnt allergic to the luxury tax and he cares about basketball.
and you have to be joking asking what is so great about NY? Why do you think Chicago gets its name as the second city?
by Sambossanova on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Dolan cares about the team any more than Reinsdorf does
He’s a businessman who will love the team as long as they make the most money, the only good thing about him is he isn’t tax averse.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
where do you watch highlights online?
nba.com is a joke. tried to play their video: “Undefined”.
by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 1:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This should work
Has the shot where Rose quiets the crowd towards the end.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 2:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bay area Bulls fand repreSENT!!!
I just got back from the game and I’d say there were several hundred Bulls fans sprinkled through the arena. I was there with my brother and another friend from the Chi and we were keeping it rowdy. I’ve been to see the Bulls play the Warriors each of the last six years and this is only the second time I’ve seen a win (the first being Duhon’s game of his life last year with 31 in the game, 24 in the first half—Tyrus was also great in that game, oh Tyrus…).
Rose quieted the crowd over and over and over down the stretch with his killer jumpshooting. That kid is sooooooooo good. In person he actually looks pretty short, like about the same as Gordon, but it’s really startling how much power and speed he plays with, even just on little juke moves and cuts and dribbles. I was worried he was headed to another mediocre game after only 2 points in the first half but OMFG did he break through and deliver.
As for the Warriors we had no answer for Biedrins who seemed to get 15 offensive rebounds (really it was more like five but he scored on all of them). Gooden had a nice game but its tough to watch us get abused like that by a merely above average center. Yes I know Biedrins is having a good year but still. And then there’s Stephen Jackson. The guy is a mess and I’d never want him on my team but he sure can play basketball.
So in the coming months as we’re all shitting on Paxson demanding trades etc., let’s remember that in the most important choice of his tenure thus far he chose Rose over Beasley. The consensus at the time was that the Bulls needed inside scoring and that Rose would take too long to develop. Does anyone question that he made the right pick now? Anyone? Thirteen games into his pro career and he’s already established himself as an elite player. Think about that.
So in a couple days or a week or whatever I’ll be back to bitching about Gordon and Hughes and how we have no real offense or defense to speak of, but for the time being I’m going to bask in the glow of my massive D-Rose man crush.
Sigh…
by DLRoth on Nov 22, 2008 2:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jackson isn't as big of a mess as you think he is....
just because he was involved in the brawl doesn’t make him a mess. I hear hes actually a very good guy who is very involved in the Oakland community.
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
by Jbasic89 on Nov 22, 2008 2:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeh.
From what I’ve heard, he’s a model of how someone can be a bad boy, get a second chance, and have it work for them.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 2:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
i’m willing to believe he’s a good guy, and living in oakland i do hear good things about him in the local media. still and all he had a lot of off-the-court troubles in indiana (both during and after games) so i’d still be nervous about having him on my team. they say ron artest is a really sweet and gentle guy too, no joke. and he’s a great player, but a lot of teams won’t sign him. i believe in second chances and i hope jackson continues to good and do well. i just don’t want to see him in a bulls uniform any time soon.
ps derrick rose
by DLRoth on Nov 22, 2008 3:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
Yeah, Gordon had a crummy game. But all the nonsensical ranting his silly. He’s been our second best player this year by a pretty wide margin. Even good players have bad games pretty frequently. Likewise to the various folks who think a rare good game in a sea of mediocrity means something about Larry Hughes.
Thabo’s actually put together a string of fairly solid play. Although his defense was just as bad, if not worse, than Hughes and Gordon’s last night, I still think he had a good night. What you have to understand, though, is that a good night for Thabo is quite a bit different than a good night for Rose, Gordon or even Hughes. Thabo is as far away from replacing Gordon (or even Hughes as a scorer) as Gordon is far away from replacing Rose.
No word I can tell about why Noah didn’t play. Trade or doghouse?
De gustibus non est disputandum
by Sports2 on Nov 22, 2008 7:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but the Ben Gordon situation is pretty straightforward...
he’s a talented, but limited and streaky offensive player, and a clear liability beyond that. He is NOT good at creating his own shots, often makes poor decisions, and will never be a good defensive player. Since he has value now, he should be traded as soon as possible.
Heinrich, though I’m hardly a big fan of his, is a much better all-around player than Gordon.
by badnewsintennisshoes on Nov 22, 2008 8:27 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
im not disagreeing with u, but u might catch sum pretty upset folks here with that one
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
by Yibs on Nov 22, 2008 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We have been over this before
Gordon is a Qualifying Offer player which means he can not be traded without his consent, can not be signed to an extension (like KG was when traded to Boston) as part of the trade and loses his Bird Rights.
Gordon is here until the end of the season, unless there is a team he REALLY wants to be on this season and that team REALLY wants him.
by Granny Waiters on Nov 22, 2008 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
new york
knicks got tons of money i hear (shhh its a big secret) they need a good starting two guard, and its bgs hometown
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by piccolomair on Nov 22, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
wait, we’re talking about Noc, right?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 22, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the point
and while it might not be easy, I’d like to see management attempt to fulfill those requirements while he is still somewhat attractive.
by badnewsintennisshoes on Nov 22, 2008 9:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is TOTALLY off topic
But since it’s a game thread, who cares.
Anyone think Durant might just be a bust?
I’m thinking he’s the next coming of Lamar Odom.
No heart at all and all talent and can handle the ball with size.
by Option27 on Nov 22, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No way
It’s unfortunate for KD that he’s on one of the most pitiful basketball teams ever assembled. He’s got that killer instinct that all of the greats posess (he hit a couple of game winners last year) and he’s only 20 years old. The guy can play three positions and he’ll get stronger with age; not everyone is blessed with the body of a God at the age of 19 like LBJ.
He isn’t going to be Derrick Rose great, but he’ll still be great.
by kwintz on Nov 22, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see that killer instinct
He is soft. He goes for layups rather than dunks.
He’s blessed the same way Odom is, a man with size and abiltuy to handle and shoot.
Just cause he’s made a couple last second shots, doesn’t mean he got that instinct.
I mean, Ben Gordon had like 4 in his rookie year?
by Option27 on Nov 22, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he's such a great player, shouldn't he, by himself, make that team competitive.
If he’s that good there’s no way they’d be this awful two years straight. Lebron’s team was worse when he got to Cleveland and they weren’t nearly that bad. You put D Rose on the Thunder and put Durant on the Bulls and I guarantee you the Thunder get better.
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's what he meant about
He isn’t going to be Derrick Rose great
But I honestly don’t see him being great at all. I see him becoming an all star player.
But not hall of fame caliber at all
by Option27 on Nov 22, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ...
I see Durant as a really awesome second option. He’s not a top superstar, but he’s solidly in that second tier.
"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com
by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i'm starting to feel that way too,
I’m not a real big fan of his game. I guess OKC just has to start hoping that eventually he turns into Nowitzki, cause that’s probably his ceiling. He just plays so soft, everything is a jumpshot. Some of it is Carlesimo’s fault as well though. Why in the hell is Durant playing at the 2 spot?
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the next coach will wise up
considering pj’s gone.
by Jaina on Nov 22, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you be at your best
playing for the OKC Thundercats? Durant may take the qualifying offer when his rookie contract expires just to get out of there. The clock is ticking
by Granny Waiters on Nov 22, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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