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Derrick Rose

Ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod….

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 21, 2008 11:57 PM CST   0 recs

The one thing this franchise (and this fan) can't endure is an injury to Derrick

Rose.

I thought he kneed in the nuts, but now it looks more serious. Hip bruise.

Damn it, he literally looked unstoppable in the fourth quarter. That fade away off the glass was sick.

Now we have to wait for the injury reports.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:02 AM CST   0 recs

If it was serious

he would have gone to the locker room. He just needs to learn to protect himself. No biggie.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 12:06 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Chi radio says hip pointer/hip bruise.

Could be code for “my balls hurt.”

The guy is even better than I imagined, and I had high expectations.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:08 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Vinny was joking with him

on his way to the locker room. It really looks like nothing.

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:07 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Fluky shooting nights from Hughes and Hunter

But a solid 18 and 16 from Gooden, and we survive another off night from Gordon. And holy fucking crap, Derrick Rose is unbelievable.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Nov 22, 2008 12:02 AM CST   1 recs

Thabo

looked good today.
Hopefully we have more adventures in small sample size next game, I want to see if he can keep this up.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:08 AM CST   0 recs

Ditto, I was really liking what I saw out of Thabo...

his D was solid and he took what they gave him. And a few 3’s even fell for him! Like seeing him in the 3 spot as well (or was he the 4 tonight? Who knows…)

by smash! on Nov 22, 2008 11:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Seriously, who coulda foreseen this?

I cannot believe this guy is on our team!

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 22, 2008 12:10 AM CST   0 recs

It was seriously ridiculous;

and so damn exciting to watch. Good night all. Great win!

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 12:11 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I saw the boxscore..uh what the...WHAT THE F*CK ?1?

So Hughes is good as both teams agree not to play defense(Nellieball) ?
Ditto for Thabo.

But Gordon regressed?

Strange, strange game.

by KentuckyBullsFan on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 AM CST   0 recs

Gordon regressed? I guess his defense was down this game? Maybe the rebounds

Hughes pops 5/7 from 3 pt land sinks 26, has more steals in 5 games than Gordon in 12, close to the same rebounds as Noah or Grady in only his 5th game back from an awesome preseason, and headline is Rose has 24. Hate to to let air out of the reincarnation of Michael, but its 12 games, don’t make anyone a HERO or blast the new coach (when his support staff has coached more games than you have watched, so don’t sweat the rookie crap).
Thabo, now there is everyone’s replacement for Hughes, what is he’ about 7% from 3 point range over 3 years now and the concern is someone that can hit from the 3 point line? Then steals, damn, a defensive powerhouse.
Rose is great, a couple of veteran point guards are coming his way right when he hits that 25 game mark, his average games played over the past five years with High School. Let’s see what he has against a solid point guard and a big man in the paint (better stay out of that house, the paint, if he wants to see 50 games this year.

by Know on Nov 22, 2008 2:10 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

"Off" Night from Gordon?

That’s the only kind of night Gordon has. He’ll post back to back 30 point nights to get everybody’s hopes up, then shoot 35% the next 10 games. Please get rid of him. PLEASE.

by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 AM CST   1 recs

no

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

You do know

that what you just said was inherently wrong, right?

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Also,

that Gordon’s PER in the season so far is something like 19.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Gordon sucked tonight.

Or did you not watch the game…he continued his selfish play, taking bad shots, turning the ball over, all the while continually getting abused on the defensive end by Jackson…

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

pretty predictable by you

Jackson abused everyone who guarded him tonight…especially Thabo and Hughes…or did you just choose to ignore that part?

He had a +/- of 0 tonight…which means he was neither good nor bad…he held his own. Also, might I add that he tied for TOs tonight with Rose, at 5 apiece…but I guess you chose to ignore that too.

by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 12:40 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Stats to the rescue.

Did you watch the game…and see Gordon dribble off his leg or lose the ball dribbling behind his back? Did you see the consecutive possessions in the second quarter when Jackson backed him into the post and scored…did you see Gordon miss his rotation on a Maggette drive?

I don’t understand what the performance of other players has to do with the performance of Gordon…I mean, Gordon sucks and Rose turns the ball over…those two things are independent of one another…if another player does something poorly, it does not excuse the player in question from his shortcomings…

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 12:56 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

but to cherry pick Gordon's shortcomings is easy

you seem to have it down pat. How can you cherry pick Gordon “turning the ball over”, but not Rose? How can you cherry pick Gordon “getting abused by Jackson”, but nobody else?

Did you not watch Noc on defense tonight? He was beyond horrid.

You’re pretty lame for constantly cherry picking the bad things Gordon does, when it’s more than obvious he was doing some positive things out there tonight.

by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 1:00 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

just checking

but isn’t rose a rookie and this is gordon’s 4th year in the league?

by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 1:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Cherry-picking?

Give me a break. You make it sound like ppl are reaching here. Did you watch the game? In his 41 min, tell me what BG did well?

A blind man can see how terrible BG has been this trip. And this is what he does, on and off, every year. Just because he started out the season shooting well for a change, that doesn’t mean we haven’t seen this crappy play before. We’ve seen it over and over again. He’s the best, then he’s the worst. He is incapable of being consistent. Great teams need consistently great players. That’s why I don’t see him being a Bull after this year.

If his jump shot isn’t falling, or if he can’t get it off, he doesn’t contribute. And his jump shot hasn’t fallen this trip, and he hasn’t been able to create, yet Vinny has kept him in the game so we’re stuck with a black hole at guard. I’m not even going to pick on his D, but when he’s not contributing on the O end it’s hard to watch the other guards, all of whom are clearly better defenders, sit on the bench.

His stats the last three games are pretty bad. 16 for 49 from the field, 4 for 21 from the arc. Perfect from the line, but only 11 trips there, including 0 yesterday. 10 TOs, 4 stl, 1 blk, 10 ast, and 7 rebs (5 in LA, but only 1 in PORT & GS) total on this trip. The alarming part for me is this is while he’s averaging a team high 36 min/game- including a team high 41 against GSW.

Just last night did you see him dribble the ball off his foot out-of-bounds in the back court with no opponent around? How about when he tried to dribble behind his back seconds later and his left arm forgot it was supposed to be on the receiving end of the dribble and instead he elbowed the ball out of bounds? How many charges did he have? The most offensive one to me was when they put the ball in his hands at the end of the game and he tried to create for himself: beeline left to the baseline just in time to put his head down and get called for a charge. Ug.

This is nothing new. The shocking part to me is that at least half of this fanbase on BaB- who probably all remembers what a championship caliber team looks like- really thinks BG deserves the money he’s asking and the starting spot he desires. I don’t.

by smash! on Nov 22, 2008 12:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Well said.

He is a streaky offensive player, and when he is cold, the coaching staff needs to put him on the bench.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Nov 22, 2008 7:42 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

ben gordon is pretty consistent

for not giving the ball to rose when he calls for it, and of course closing out quarters. i mean he added something last night to the colse out. not only did he lose the ball off the foot, but he also got a foul leading to 2 GSW free throws. see, he’s added something to his game if u ask me.

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Nov 22, 2008 8:24 AM CST to parent up   1 recs

and most of the time

when rose makes a move to end the quarter, good things happen… :P

by Jaina on Nov 22, 2008 11:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

heh

Did you see Gordon dribble off his leg? I did. I did.

Did you say that one game where Gordon was unstoppable on offense? I didn’t. I didn’t.

You’re funny. ;-P

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Nov 22, 2008 12:54 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I was pointing out that if Gordon has both good and bad games, he cannot just have bad games,

and also what Norm said.
He’s had a couple of bad shooting nights in a row but he’s still been contributing with drives and playing [what’s looked to me like] decent defense, something he hasn’t done before.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:52 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

No...

he hasn’t contributed much at all actually. Look at his stats.

by smash! on Nov 22, 2008 12:07 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

All I know is that Gordon's terrible

And that if it’s not inherently right, it’s pretty darned close. The guy is an inconsistent ballhog who makes rookie mistakes. He needs to go bye-bye.

by wilsoneads on Nov 22, 2008 12:23 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

He is terribly inconsistant. I don’t want us to resign him at all…Let some other team overpay for him. I was getting ripped for saying we should let him go and draft Steph Curry if no good bigmen are availible. Curry is more consistant, better defensively, and is a better ball handler.

by illini23 on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

he has

a season average of 19.5 PER…the ONLY Bull in the top 50…

…I agree, let’s can this guy. He can take his 20ppg and stuff them in a sack and leave!!

by NormVanBeer on Nov 22, 2008 12:45 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

So ya'll didn't start Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes?

:)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 AM CST   0 recs

We did start Larry Hughes.

So we barely escaped from this one.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 22, 2008 12:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Fuck, pissed I didn't get to see this one.

Sounds like Rose was unbelievable.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 AM CST   0 recs

No matter what, do yourself a favor and find a clip of his fourth

quarter dunk. He beat a double team with a sick cross over, beat a third defender down the lane, then rose up and dunked with one hand.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I need to see this, like, right now.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

just watch the 2nd half

if you find a replay

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

any idea where I could find a replay link?

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

How the heck did he find a jump shot sooo fast?

by SK23 on Nov 22, 2008 12:23 AM CST   0 recs

He's always had it. He just hid it for the scouts

hahhahaha whats up now

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:24 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

He comes ou hours before each game and practices

jumpers.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:25 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

That shot is...

just so good. Not only that it was going in. Three things: he gets up very high, he gets up very quickly, and he’s balanced. Rare.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 8:59 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I think thats how i feel about hinrich

not starting an argument but i think gordon and hinrich are good guards who can contribute but will be absolete due to the greatness that is rose.

getting rid of both makes more sense than keeping one due to the weaknesses in thier games.

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Nov 22, 2008 1:15 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Remember when people wanted to draft Beasley?

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 AM CST   0 recs

im sorry

i didnt believe… i didnt know… the stories were true… a point god does exist!

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, Bullshooter, and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light....

by piccolomair on Nov 22, 2008 1:17 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I was one of those people.

Man was I WRONG! D. Rose is a beast.

by robinhood on Nov 22, 2008 11:51 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Who could have known the returns would have been this good this early?

I think anyone who called for Beasley will be glad to admit they were wrong.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I would like Beasley AND Rose

We would need to put a gun to Riley’s head for him to agree to this trade=

by Granny Waiters on Nov 22, 2008 2:16 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I knew this game would be amazing when I saw it on the schedule

Yet I still miss the whole thing. Someone please enlighten me with a quick recap?

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:29 AM CST   0 recs

Derrick Rose.

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:31 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

And Hughes maybe tradable now.HOPE.

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I love you

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:31 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

you too sweety

oh…oh you meant derrick….awkward.

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

ROFL

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 22, 2008 9:00 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

rec this bitchin comment-video up

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

fo sho

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Put some nasty music in there.

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

After this game

DR is OFFICIALLY A Leader of this team.Fuck that rookie shit!
He is a Go To guy,mark this one,Ben.

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 22, 2008 12:30 AM CST   0 recs

Oh man
After Biedrins tipped home a shot to cut Chicago’s lead to 107-104 with 2:26 left, Rose hit a difficult pull-up jumper and then put a finger to his lips while staring down the rowdy Oakland crowd.

MUST. SEE.

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:31 AM CST   0 recs

Damn, I didn't see the hushing motion live.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:32 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I can't believe I missed this game

When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer

by Illini15 on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Was it on the sick fade away off the glass?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I did not catch that.

ahhhh i want to see it

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 22, 2008 12:34 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

just back from the game

rose did indeed give the Dubs fans the sign of the kiss off after he drained a sick J

also looked like he had an ice pack on his balls as he went to the LR

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 AM CST   0 recs

which shot??

the fade off the glass?

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs