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Reasons for Hope

A day later, and I still cannot bring myself to look at the final score from the Blazers game.  That was one of the worst performances I have ever witnessed.  I could not turn away until VDN mercifully pulled Rose out late in the third.  That must be what it looks like when I try to play a basketball video game really drunk.  I have no idea what I am doing on the offensive end and it just keeps turning into easy buckets for the other team.  When you play that poorly, the momentum is all on your opponent and there is nothing you can do to make a run. 

After that debacle, it is very easy to give in and say "this team's screwed as presently constructed."  I took Matt's advice, though, and treated the game like it never happened.  Doing so, I remembered how excited I was about this team's development before the game started.  The reason we are all so upset about that loss was not just because of how garish it was.  When the Bulls got whipped by the Celtics, most around here seemed willing to accept that that was just the way it was supposed to be.  The Blazers game, though, presented a chance for the Bulls to grab a victory on the Circus Trip. (Did anyone else catch Jon Barry saying "they affectionately refer to it as the Circus Trip".  There is absolutely no affection for that trip by the organization or its fans.  This is not like the Spurs' annual rejuvenating "Rodeo Trip" tour.)  At the very least, it should have been a competitive game.

While much of the blame for what happened should be heaped on VDN, I think there are still plenty of positives to take away from his young tenure.  Certainly, some of these are only positives if you hold up as comparisons to his predecessors or his own previous decisions.  However, I am still very optimistic that the quality of this team, even if as presently constituted, will be much greater by March.  Anyways, here are some reminders of things to like so far.

-         This is already Rose's team.  While his talent is so obvious that even Skiles likely would have handed him the reigns, it is nice to know the head coach does not feel he has to put a rookie point god in his place.

-         Ben Gordon is starting.  It took some time and Hinrich's injury for this to develop, but it seems VDN realizes Gordon is the best fit in the backcourt next to Rose.

-         VDN keeps looking for answers in the frontcourt.  Some of these answers have been horribly wrong.  Unfortunately, Tyrus's shaken confidence and Noah's lack of conditioning have forced VDN to look elsewhere.  Until those 2 get their stuff together, we all are going to have to accept that right now Deng, Gooden, and Noc are the best frontcourt players. 

-         Tyrus and Noah keep getting chances to play.  Again, it is on the two of them to force VDN to give them consistent minutes.  At this point, neither deserves more than the cursory looks VDN gives them each game.  At least he is willing to put them out there early and stick with them through a few mistakes.  When he has pulled the plug on either one for a game, it has been disappointing yet feels different than when it happened under Skiles or the other guy.

-         The team is currently 12th in defensive efficiency after playing the toughest opening schedule in the NBA.  Of their 12 games, 9 have come against teams currently in the top 12 of Hollinger's Daily Rankings.  With almost no interior defensive presence, they still are producing on that end.  The offense is mired near the bottom at 26th.  As the schedule begins to even out, we should see the team rise in both rankings.

-         They found a way to get Deng involved.  There was plenty of concern, and rightfully so, that Deng did not fit Rose and/or this offense.  Either the offense was adapted to Deng or the coaches helped him adapt to it.  Either way, this is probably my greatest source of optimism. 

There are plenty of things I want to see done differently.  I want to see a lot more out of Tyrus and Noah.  I want to see a lot less of Hughes.  This season was supposed to be a work in progress. 

The team is already much further along than I thought they would be at this point in the season.  Much of that is attributable to the way Rose has busted out of the gates.  I think the team's other rookie, though, has shown some flashes of promise himself.  If Rose had been struggling with turnovers, we all would have been calling for patience, let him learn how to not make those mistakes.  VDN deserves the same patience.  Let him work through the mistakes he is bound to make in terms of rotation.  Let him get a chance to work with a confident Tyrus and a played-into-shape Noah.  Let him realize that Hughes is a succubus.  VDN was given a team with plenty of questions and a ridiculous opening schedule.  All things considered, this season could be going a lot worst.            

 

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I see where you're coming from, but it's very difficult to have faith when

you have no confidence that the people in charge can get the job done. I’m not down on the team/players as much as i’m down on the direction the team is headed and the ability of Reinsdorf, Pax and VDN to take us where we wanna go.

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 21, 2008 11:30 AM CST   0 recs

Nice post

Good to hear something positive! I’m optimistic about this team long term. Before the season started, we all had to know that in the first couple of months the bulls would run into some growing pains. I think I read somewhere that we’re the youngest team in the league, so we’re bound to make mistakes. The key will be how they learn from their mistakes half way through the season.

If they show no development by February, then its time to get pissed off.

by 72-10 on Nov 21, 2008 12:14 PM CST   0 recs

Something is on my mind in regards to Deng

but I can’t post it here..

D.Rose really is a reason to have hope.

man up!

by exult463 on Nov 21, 2008 12:26 PM CST   0 recs

let me guess

it involves manliness.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 21, 2008 12:50 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Everyone knows

Only stupid stinky GIRLS get injuries!

Deng needs to clean the sand out of his vagina and get out there and GO FIGHT WIN.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Nov 21, 2008 12:57 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

yeah!

fragile 72 million dollar man

man up!

by exult463 on Nov 22, 2008 8:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

When I will have Hope

It’s nice to see an optimistic piece on the website during the Cirus Trip. Since Derrick confirmed he was a star during the preseason and first two weeks, the only thing I am HOPING for is the begining of the dismantlization of this roster.
Just as it was from 85-91 when the Bulls finally beat Detriot they had no one on the roster from MJeffs rookie team. I don’t see any pieces that should be on the Bulls when Derrick gets to the conference finals.
So my hope is Ben gets sent first ( he’ll be an asset to some playoff team this year), Kirk when he is healthy, Noc thrown in to make a deal better, then the rest of the garbage Ty Noah Drew Larry. Finally Thabo and Aaron on other teams NBDL lists. Deng is so underachieving in my opinion I don’t even want to hope we get anything back for him someday…..

by Jscho316 on Nov 21, 2008 1:25 PM CST   0 recs

so you're hoping the team gets dramatically worse

ew.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 21, 2008 1:44 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Waive everybody!

/sarcasm

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 21, 2008 4:53 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Thank you so much!

I needed this optimistic boost. You just made my day. All that needs to happen now is Pax’s firing!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 21, 2008 5:20 PM CST   0 recs

The great English poet, Alexander Pope once said "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

and Hope springs eternal in the human breast".

Your well thought out optimistic treatise revealed a hidden truth when you so cleverly described Larry Hughes as a succabus. A succabus was a medieval demon in female form who would seduce chaste young men in their sleep and steal their seeds (thus explaining wet dreams).

Now, if you observe closely, Larry does have somewhat soft feminine features and has apparently entered VDN’s slumber at some point, stealing his ability to reason, if not his seed. What other reason can one come up with to explain his fascination with the game destroyer other than he has gained some type of demonic control over Vinney’s brain?

So are we fools for holding out hope this team will succeed?

If Larry is in fact an angel (fallen), than he will be unable to continue treading on our dreams, assuming Pope was right, that fools rush in where angels fear to tread and we retain a positive mind set. At some point, Hughes will eventually return to the netherlands from whence he came, or at least to the far end of the bench. This also explains how he/she was able to seduce the Cavs into rewarding him/her with such a ridiculous contract in the past. If there is no logical explanation, sometimes we must consider supernatural forces may be the only explanation for such bizzare behaviors.

So I recommend the next time you Bulls fans go to a game, carry a cross and whip it out if you are close enough that it will catch Hughes’s eye. He will be forced to immediately take himself out of the game, as this will likely drain his life force. Fans win and then the Bulls win as well. You say my suggestion is crazy. Is it any crazier than putting him out on the floor either as a 2, 3 or 4 at crucial times in the game?

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 21, 2008 9:05 PM CST   2 recs

re: succabus rather than succubus

In this instance, I was referring to specific types of demons who are famous for sucking entire busloads of sleeping bball players heading on a long rides for away games at small junior colleges and high schools known as Succabuses.

They have not been known to go after pro players. But thanks for reminding me of the difference.

For some reason, based on his current substituion choices and lineup matchups, the regional entity who assigned a succabus to capture Vinnie’s soul must have mistakenly assumed he was not a pro coach, and thus sent a D league demon to get the job done.

But you’re exactly right. The Dark Master always assigns a Succubus to capture Professional Coaches, except in the case of Jim Bo&*@n who had no brain material to work with and therefore needed no seducing.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 22, 2008 9:08 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Correction...I meant to say 1, 2 or 3. Not 4, at least not yet, but with VDN you never know.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 21, 2008 9:15 PM CST   0 recs

Or 5.

"You remember the first time you picked up a basketball video game and you had no idea how to run plays, so you just gave the ball to your shooter and you ran around the court aimlessly until a defender was far enough away and then you jacked up a shot? THAT IS LARRY HUGHES!"
-Anonymous fan letter, heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com

by Prevenge on Nov 21, 2008 9:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

The only hope is that

in 3 years no one from this roster will be on the team, with the exception of Deng who no one else will be dump enough to pay $14 million per.

by BigWay on Nov 22, 2008 12:04 AM CST   0 recs

hehe

‘dump enough’

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 22, 2008 1:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Does that mean we dump Rose too, along with the rest of the wannabes?

Please amend to Deng plus Rose or else we might as well move the franchise to Grand Forks, North Dakota, right after we sign Eddie Curry to a long term contract to shore up our interior defense and finally have a post presence who can score.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 22, 2008 11:01 AM CST   0 recs

How do you seriously not understand the concept of the "reply" link?

I’m so baffled by this.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Nov 22, 2008 3:10 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

No, the Bulls are the worst team to ever play basketball on any level

We should have drafted Brook Lopez when we had the chance, now we’ll never have a post presence.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 12:53 PM CST   1 recs

The overall team performance

Geez, we’re 6-7 3 games into the circus trip. There’s been one stinker, the second night of back to back road games in the west for Greg Oden’s debutante party. We’ve proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that we’re not going to overtake Boston, LA, Cleveland, etc just yet. We have beaten Phoenix, Indy, Dallas, and were close enough with Atl to play the blame game afterward. I’d say we’re playing to at least our potential. TT, Noah and Thabo are being given opportunities. Rose wasn’t held back for any philosophical bs, and Gordon hasn’t been mistreated.
    Seems to me that Vinnie’s been addressing everyone’s wish lists in a balanced manner and has a better record than I expected. Not many of the players have exceeded their norm, so it’s not luck or smoke and mirrors. They’re playing pretty good ball for who they are. TT and Noah won’t-can’t play much worse. Deng was just starting to play to his norm.
   They’ve played to a 37-38 win pace at this early stage against a very unfriendly schedule with injuries to 2 of the top 7 players, and extremely disappointing starts from their key frontcourt players. I’m still extremely hopeful for my closer to 50 wins than 30 prediction.
   And oh, yeah. There’s that rookie point guard. Pax needs to make one good move this year. There’s an unusual amount of instability in the league this year. All star caliber players are being shuffled around. Come on, Pax, one good move. Remember that 8-8 game against LA, facing down Lambeer, winning the title single-handedly against Phoenix. You could have a second bronze placed outside the stadium, you with a three point shot in one hand and a phone in the other. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!

by California Al on Nov 22, 2008 2:44 PM CST   0 recs

I definitely think they'll get better as the season rolls along

but that doesn’t mean I can just accept what’s wrong now and figure it’ll work out eventually. I mean, I could, but I wouldn’t have much to write about :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 22, 2008 3:47 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I somehow don't think

you’d run out of material. BTW, you’re writing’s been better than ever this season. Just wish there was a way you could block the word sucks to force an expansion of a few members’ vocabulary. Get a thesaurus, guys.

by California Al on Nov 22, 2008 7:34 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

How about some synonyms

putrid, horrible, terrible, sickening, nauseating, blasphemus… I couldn’t list them all or I’d never stop, but this is a good enough start.

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 22, 2008 8:19 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

like this?

Man, last night’s game Hughes’d. I’d rather spend my money on a disease ridden hooker then watch the Bulls Larry it up like that for 48 minutes.

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 10:41 PM CST to parent up   2 recs

time sure has a way of making someone larger than their life

“winning the title single-handedly against Phoenix”
“Paxson the Zeke stopper”
etc.,etc., etc.

Paxson with a phone is one hand is like a deer in highlights… frozen

man up!

by exult463 on Nov 22, 2008 8:20 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Use the reply link!

Things could be worse.

by stupidgenius on Nov 22, 2008 8:24 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

You do?

Cause reading his posts in their haiku form can be perplexing at times.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 22, 2008 11:18 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I understand that!

"It never is, because I'm the Shogun. And before you get to the Shogun, you gotta go through a lot of ninjas."

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 25, 2008 10:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Stupidgenius, thanks for those powerful adjectives to add variety to Vinny sucks, Noce sucks, Hughes sucks bigtime, Bulls Suck, TT sucks, Gray sucks, Gordon sucks, etc.

However, I believe one of your offerings should be spelled BLASPHEMOUS, not blasphemus. I know i’m being petty, childish, etc., but I think we are now tied, 1 to 1, in this unofficial Blogabull spelling bee.

I should add irritating, because I also realize that some of my posts really piss off some of the bloggers who can offer more expertise regarding X’s and O’s while mine may do nothing to improve the plight of my beloved Bulls. But I remain a loyal fan through thick and thin and will never lose hope.

However, since the Bulls have a tendency to repeat the same mistakes it can sometimes seem tiring to continue to beat a dead horse, or should I say Bull, all the time as we repeat the same complaints and offer the same suggestions. But I also find myself in almost total agreement with California Al’s and 90% of Snley’s detailed points in this post, so I won’t restate them other than to add….right on, good job, think positve, this season is far from over, and we still have Rose.

And I know you won’t believe me, but I do hit the reply link (the little word reply +). Why it doesn’t always work for me may be due to either my Parkinsonism or unseen demons that have captured my brain.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 22, 2008 9:45 PM CST   0 recs

It was snely who called Larry Hughes a succubus. I was merely agreeing with him.

I hit the reply button again on the bottom of Unrealcity’s post. Where it lands I have no idea, since it seems to always go somewhere else. I once had a very serious thing for blue demons when I used to attend DePaul basketball games with my best friend who was a graduate and had season tickets, but we both gave up on them a few years ago.

I am going to abruptly end this train of thought before people start demonizing me and shift my concentration on watching D Rose play his way into the Hall of Fame while hopefully witnessing the rebirth of Tyrus Thomas. If he could somehow get his jumpers to fall and learn to finish at the rim, he could dismiss his personal demons and grow into the player most of us thought he would become. It seems he needs a guardian angel to help guide his shots into the cylinder more often. I will continue to pray for him to succeed.

If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard

by Tyrusmancrush on Nov 23, 2008 12:22 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Tell me you did that on purpose.

“dismiss his personal demons

by Unrealcity on Nov 25, 2008 11:48 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

still can't reply...

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Nov 22, 2008 10:42 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

current strenght of schedule

list here shows that the bulls have played THE toughest schedule to date. San Antonio (who’s up next on our plate and has better record) has played one of the weakest (#22) While Phillie’s Schedule is next to LAST. (#29)!

by gman2849 on Nov 25, 2008 3:28 PM CST   0 recs

The Bulls have overachieved

a schedule with a strength of schedule like that for a young team like this coming off the year they had with new floor and bench leaders? I would not have placed a futures bet on 7 wins out of the first 15 games.

by messwiththebull on Nov 25, 2008 7:43 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Surprisingly

the expected win/loss is 6-9! Perhaps I am wrong about this team overachiveing. But then I see what they put out on the court and I’m amazed they can win a game. A Rose blooms.

by messwiththebull on Nov 25, 2008 7:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Never mind

I see what’s driving the expected W/L. Time to sleep.

by messwiththebull on Nov 25, 2008 7:47 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

We also have the eighth-highest RPI in the league!

Things could be worse. We could have kept (name redacted).

by stupidgenius on Nov 30, 2008 1:11 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

This is awesome (and another reason for hope)
Derrick Rose said he has been bonding with his teammates this seven-game road trip, which continues Wednesday at San Antonio. There has already been a team dinner. ’’We’ve come together, we’re way closer,‘’ Rose said. ’’You can talk to them about anything. We’ve been going to each other’s rooms and playing around. We’ve watched games and played video [games].’’

by messwiththebull on Nov 25, 2008 7:41 PM CST   0 recs

Today is one day nearer to the day that either

John Paxson will retire, leave on his on merit, or be canned.

man up!

by exult463 on Dec 5, 2008 6:23 AM CST   0 recs

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