I agree….let’s get Brad Miller….let’s do any trade just to break up the Gooden-Hughes-Tyrus Thomas-Joakim Noah groupings, two of them must go, and at this point any two (with the Cleveland crap preferrable of course but less likely to be traded).

the guy is an adjusted plus-minus monster and a great pick and pop player which is something Rose needs in the frontcourt very very badly. I’m more in favor of a more straight forward trade with the Kings. Give them something like this.

Bulls trade:
Hinrich and Gooden and Cedric Simmons (or your preferred filler)

and Sacramento trades:
Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas

It adds about a million in salary, but both those contracts expire in 2010 and this would be the first of several trades for me if I’m running the show.

Bug Pax with so many trades that eventually he does something to get frontcourt help/ salary cap relief.

and it keeps the dream (i.e. 2010) alive. Whether it’s feasible depends, in part, on how the Hornets fare. If they continue playing average ball, this makes sense for them – Nocioni is pretty much a shot in the arm (or kidneys) for any team. He also gives them range, something that they need with Paul. For the same reason Noc has worked well with Rose, he would work with CP3.

I think this may undervalue Miller a little bit, however. He’s a center averaging 12, 9, and 5 with a 2010 deal. To my way of thinking he’s worth more than salary cap space. Now if the Hornets could be persuaded to throw in Julian Wright…or if the Bulls threw in Thabo…or if a draft picks was involved…you get the drill.

And what the hell is Sactown doing with Udrih? He’s awful.

they aren’t very good players, and in my opinion will never be. Package them while other GMs still have the hope of one of them turning out to be something “OK”. The only way they turn out any decent or useful is if each of them realize that they need to fill one role on a team. Something like rebounding, intense defense, or easy dunks/tip ins. They both are putrid at being anything other than a specific role player (especially not a focal point of offensive sets).

I’ve never understood the love that these two players had been getting (and still slightly get) from some on blogabull.com. What was everyone watching when they were in college? These players don’t have true basketball skills that you see in every star of the league. Yes, Tyrus can jump out of the gym and make nasty blocks occassionally! Whoopie! He is a HORRIBLE basketball player. I’m tired of hearing about these two players athleticism and “energy”. I never look at that type of stuff when I’m trying to determine who a team should draft or if a player is good or going to be good. I always look at pure basketball skills/attributes and smarts/mentality.

would be great to have a real big in the middle, and he has skills aswell! what the??

Though realistically, we have been talking the same stuff for so long, it really doesnt look like Mr Px is going to do anything at all ! Maybe he ‘works’ from home but doesnt have a phone?

Nah, I feel bad for that. It would be hard to try to get someone to take our bad contracts. But really, how long can this awkward roster stand pat before a risk is made? we have way too many guards and zero skill in our bigs, the equasion isnt that hard to figure out!

Hinrich and Nocioni have to go with no long term contracts coming back. Gordon probably can’t be signed, or if he is then Thomas, Noah, and Thabo have to go. IN the summer of 2010 Rose and Deng will be making $17 million. If we want to go after 2 of the big 4, either Lebron or Wade, and either Bosh and Amare, then we can’t have anyone else on the payroll. Thomas would be owed $6 million plus, Noah and Thabo would be just under $7 million, and Gordon would be at $10 million plus if he gets what he wants.

One way to keep a few extra players would be to sign and trade for Lebron assuming he wants to come to the Bulls and send Deng to Cleveland, assuming that they would want him. Actually, we would need a second contract at about $10 million per to add to the Deng contract,(Hinrich or Gordon) This would allow us to sign 2 of the big 4 and still keep an additional $20 million in players.

This trade starts us down the path of dumping our 2010 contracts, and gives us somewhat of a short term upgrade at center.

Id only do that deal with the protected first rounder you mentioned. Hawes and Thompson will both benefit from the presence of Miller and since Kenny Thomas will still be on the books next year there is little reason to dump Miller’s salary for nothing in return.

Remember From the window to Luol’s post from a few days ago? “Anatomy of a contender: a look at adjusted +/-”

Outside of Rose, the Bull’s players aren’t that good. Let these players go, try and get draft choices, clear cap space. START OVER