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Bulls-Blazers post-game thoughts: joke's on us, that game didn't count!

[Wrote this as the second half began, and scheduled it to post overnight. So hopefully there was some monumental comeback to make this seem silly in retrospect, but I doubt it]

Didn't count. You see...Vinny started Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes.

Aaron Gray. And Larry Hughes. Hughes at SF! Gray at a basketball position! In a regular season NBA game!

So, yeah...think of that as preseason. Didn't count.

I came home with about an hour of saved game to catch up on. I saw that Larry Hughes and Aaron Gray were starting, thought: "what the hell". Then the Blazers clowned a team starting Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes. Expected. The Bulls couldn't quite match up, because they had Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes in their lineup.

After seven and a half minutes, the first substitution. Noah for Gray. The Bulls are down 23-7. Why it took that long to realize that it wasn't working....well I guess if you don't go into the game realizing it won't work in the first place, the chance that a few minutes will change one's mind is remote, no matter how bad it looked.

Around then I muted the TV and was liberal with the fast-forwarding. No reason to listen to analysis of a game where one team started Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes, and the other didn't. (I mean, if the Blazers started Gray and Hughes too...I suppose the game could count again)

Speaking of analysis, wasn't it cute how we tried to discuss how the Bulls would match up with the Blazers today? Now it's not really fair, we were operating under the premise that the Bulls would treat it like a real game. Where the record counts and everything. Nah, they started Aaron Gray and Larry Hughes. Wish I would've known that ahead of time.

I'm glad Aaron gave them a big body (or whatever VDN stammered pre-game), and Hughes was able to stick that big guard, Brandon Roy...

Matchups!

I suppose as the first quarter drudged on, there was a chance of another comeback like the one against Dallas. But that was a home, against a leadfooted veteran team. In this one, the Bulls maintained the suck, and were down by 30 at the half. 

Nobody else gets much blame, they were dealt a crappy hand (what with Hughes and Gray on their side, and the Blazers getting to play against them and all), and when after 7.5 minutes the game is already extended garbage time where guys are on their own on offense, and the opponent has a hell of a confidence boost going against you....well, I don't really care how the team performs, as it wasn't a real game. Everyone gets a pass, they were sabotaged.

Eat a turd sandwich, Vinny and Pax!

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yikes

can’t say i’m sorry i missed this one.

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Nov 20, 2008 12:20 AM CST   0 recs

i second that

looking at the box score, it wasn’t just not pretty..it was carnage.

At least Larry Hughes isn't overrated

by Othella on Nov 20, 2008 12:41 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

i third that

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Nov 20, 2008 7:53 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

If I see one more game like that

I don’t know what I’m going to do. It’s the day after the game and I’m wearing glasses. It was that mind-blowingly bad. I’m still a fan for only 3 reasons.

1. Rose
2. Gordon
3. The faint hope that there will be more championships.
Gordon will leave after this year, and Rose will leave (assuming we still suck) when his rookie contract is over. Then there’ll be no more championship hope left either. Time to start lookin for a new team to root for! I only replied to this so I would be near the top.

My hit list: Larry, Thabo, Lindsay, Demetris, Cedric, Aaron, Paxson, Reinsdorf, Del Negro, and Schanwald. We're left with Rose, Gordon, Hinrich, Deng, Noce, Gooden, Tyrus, Noah, Harris, and Bickerstaff. Harris takes coach and Bickerstaff takes GM. Who needs an owner? Pay for it with the money that the Blog A Bull community will spend on tickets to see a good team!
Correction: Matt takes GM, and Bickerstaff stays Head Assistant Coach.

by stupidgenius on Nov 20, 2008 5:06 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

LOL @ you only replying to this so you'd be at the top!

Random Thought #1: Pax should trade away all pieces that the blogabull community doesn’t like, even if that means including pieces that the Blogabull community does like. The only untradeable here based on play this season is Rose, though an argument could be made for Gordon.

Random Thought #2: Pax and Reinsdorf have got to be giddy about the fact that Kirk has the opportunity to be something of a savior when he comes back if the play continues to suck.

"It’d be ridiculous to hate someone for simply what they say in a sports blog. But I greatly dislike every syllable of your angst-filled, smarmy, nondescript, half-assed, elitist-garbage responses." –Rogerspark Kris

by bullhockey on Nov 21, 2008 9:19 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Man i was hoping for +10 blazers

but that was awesome

"All our holes," says shooting guard Brandon Roy, a surprise All-Star last year in his second season, "are holes that Greg is going to plug."

by bowdown on Nov 20, 2008 12:20 AM CST   0 recs

Man, you are just awesome.

Coming here on a win takes a lot of guts. Anymore great observations from tonight’s beatdown?

by NittanyCub on Nov 20, 2008 3:20 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

In fairness to the bulls

They played a blazers team that was TICKED about a loss the night before. The Blazers tend to take large leads out on teams but then lose track of it and end up going neck and neck. This game the blazers were home, ticked off at a loss they should have won and some bad calls, and they came out with a boulder on their shoulder. I have a feeling that a number of teams facing them would have gone down with the same results.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 20, 2008 7:15 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

And to be fair to the Blazers,

they were playing a Bulls team with pretty much no big man worth mentioning that started Hughes and above referenced unmentionable big man.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 20, 2008 8:17 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

And to be fair to the bulls

The refs didn’t help them much in the first quarter. The refs, like Obe Won Kinobe before them, were your only hope.

Ok, maybe not, I just wanted to work that line in. Rose is AWESOME, though. Just think about that today. One bad game doesn’t erase his rookiness of the yearness.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 20, 2008 10:47 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

With the second pick of the 1984 draft

the Portland Trail Blazers select Sam Bowie.

With the third pick of the 1984 draft, the Chicago Bulls select… :)

by Granny Waiters on Nov 21, 2008 3:02 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm contacting all the media

to redact the box scores from the books.

Our season stands at 71 games.

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 20, 2008 12:22 AM CST   0 recs

wow. i fail

Our season stands at 81 games

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 20, 2008 12:23 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

you never know

might start larry hughes again!

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 20, 2008 7:16 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yep, that pretty much say it all.

The whole Larry Hughes, starting at sf thing really was too funny. Although most people appear to be mad at Vinny, i’m way, way past that. This is all on Paxson. The guy is a fuckin dumbass and he;s gotta go.

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 20, 2008 12:23 AM CST   0 recs

What the hell is with this organization?

It isn’t just VDN; both Skiles and (name redacted) routinely started scrubs. Remember the “Adrian Griffin as starter” experiment last year? Does any other franchise start shitty players as often as the Bulls?

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Nov 20, 2008 12:24 AM CST   0 recs

You can get away with that when you have Tim Duncan

Besides, they start Michael Finley, who’s at least a decent player himself. They don’t take the 12th man and start him because he’s a “good matchup” or something.

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Nov 20, 2008 12:27 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Good point.

Altho didn’t they try Udoka there too?

and Brent Barry?

by PatBull on Nov 20, 2008 12:29 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Brent Barry is a very solid player,

Udoka is just a guy they hope can take over for Bruce Bowen.

by Scotter on Nov 20, 2008 12:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'm not defending them at all.

Didn’t mean to make it sound that way. I was just curious if Ginobli was starting

by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 20, 2008 12:29 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Also...

I give Pop the benefit because he’s actually won something… over and over again.

Not so much for anyone coaching the Bulls post-Jackson.

by JacksonM on Nov 20, 2008 9:49 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

He was last year...

But that was when everyone was healthy.

If ony Parker is still injured, or less than 100%, when Ginobli comes back in December, no way does he come off the bench.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 20, 2008 1:58 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Everyone sucked.

Even DRose wasn’t his brilliant self. (dives into a bomb shelter and waits for the inevitable verbal abuse)

by PatBull on Nov 20, 2008 12:26 AM CST   0 recs

Nah it's true;

worst he’s played. But he’s got two excuses: he’s a rookie, and he’s Derrick Rose. :)

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 20, 2008 7:00 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Don't forget...

He was playing alongside Larry Hughes.

by JacksonM on Nov 20, 2008 9:49 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

That was

- 3 years ago
- in an open contract year
- was +30 percentage points in FG shooting compared to his career numbers
- was +3 in FT attempts per game compared to his career numbers
- led the league in steals

It was Larry’s best season as a pro when he most needed it to get the next big contract to close his career.

In a trust with Vinny Del Negro.

by NBA Observer on Nov 21, 2008 12:51 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

dang, he helped me win my fantasy league that year

so my impression of him is pretty skewed. Didn’t realize he sucks otherwise. Leading the league in steals was huge for me. Plus that was Lebro and Melo’s rookie year and I was somehow able to pick them in the middle rounds (I guess people weren’t sure how to project). I owned that league.

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 21, 2008 6:23 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

I managed to miss the first quarter

so by the time I tuned in I pretty much tuned back out again and just glanced up now and then to see something bad happen with it on mute. That was a waste of an ESPN slot. I had no idea they started Hughes and Gray. That does explain the suicide in the first quarter. We might as well just thrown ourselves onto swords after the tip off with that lineup and spared ourselves the rest of the game. The Bulls are really have the worst lineups in the NBA.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 20, 2008 12:29 AM CST   0 recs

Can we delete this thread and the game threads?

So we can pretend this game was never played?

Or pretend we had a hypothetical game against the blazers?

by PatBull on Nov 20, 2008 12:31 AM CST   1 recs

This team needs a true Center

if Kaman is available Pax needs to send some players packing. The only people that deserve a roster spot is Rose, Deng, Gordon, Noce and maybe Noah. The rest of this team should be sent packing ASAP!

Homecoming

by illwill on Nov 20, 2008 12:32 AM CST   1 recs

ugh....

Noah was very very bad tonight as well as all the others playing the post.
Deng is so streaky
I hate Gordon sometimes because he’s so selfish, but he’s great because he has a jump shot.
I like Rose and Noce, they play like they actually want to win the game.

by aznsensation on Nov 20, 2008 12:36 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Ur right

only keep Rose and Noce. We need a coach like Mike Singletary!

Homecoming

by illwill on Nov 20, 2008 12:37 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Scott Skiles will be available in a couple of years

after he gets fired when the Milwaukee players tune him out.

Red Auerbach would fail with today’s players.

The coach we need was driven out of town by a jealous Jerry Krause.

by Granny Waiters on Nov 21, 2008 3:07 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

You're right

Noah was bad. Although, I think he showed more attitude than in other games…

http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)

by bull83 on Nov 20, 2008 9:51 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Noah

is still totally out of shape.
Sophomore slump.

by Prevenge on Nov 20, 2008 2:28 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

He should take his 20 points

a game and go play somewhere else, aye? That will go well.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 20, 2008 8:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, Gordon is the problem.

If only he could spread the floor so the big men could take over.

by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 21, 2008 1:29 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I was watching sportscenter until they started talking about the bulls

I don’t want to be reminded of this game ever again. I will erase this game from my own memory. If everyone follows suit…it will have only been a dream and we can get on with our lives.

by aznsensation on Nov 20, 2008 12:33 AM CST   0 recs

Good comment ;-)

But I fear the Blazers will remember that game even if you try to forget it and scrape it from the history books.

by Norsktroll on Nov 20, 2008 7:42 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

dude….Hilarious. I had to sign in jus to say that was amazing.

by ODiggitty23 on Nov 20, 2008 5:45 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

You mean nightmare, right?

My hit list: Larry, Thabo, Lindsay, Demetris, Cedric, Aaron, Paxson, Reinsdorf, Del Negro, and Schanwald. We're left with Rose, Gordon, Hinrich, Deng, Noce, Gooden, Tyrus, Noah, Harris, and Bickerstaff. Harris takes coach and Bickerstaff takes GM. Who needs an owner? Pay for it with the money that the Blog A Bull community will spend on tickets to see a good team!
Correction: Matt takes GM, and Bickerstaff stays Head Assistant Coach.

by stupidgenius on Nov 20, 2008 4:52 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Dude...

Just read your signature. Congratulations, you have effectively mushed Matt hard.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Nov 20, 2008 6:02 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Deng may be out a little while longer

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-20-bulls-trailblazers-chicagnov20,0,2827537.story

Deng suffered his injury during Tuesday’s morning shootaround in Los Angeles, spent 26 minutes chasing Kobe Bryant around and then sat the entire fourth quarter against the Lakers. Late Tuesday, he said he could be out for a bit.

Coach Vinny Del Negro, who started Larry Hughes instead, confirmed Deng’s absence could stretch beyond Portland.

“Hamstrings can linger and those just need rest,” Del Negro said.

“The injury situation doesn’t get any better. We just keep trying to find ways to patch this thing up.”

I guess this means more Hughes in the starting lineup. How long before Noc throws a towel at VDN?

Why resort to name calling?
-Dionysus2.0

because I wish to insult you personally
-your friendly BullsBlogger

by Big D on Nov 20, 2008 12:37 AM CST   0 recs

Seriously, enough of starting Hughes over Noce.

I’d rather have Deng but I’d settle for Noce before Hughes or Thabo.

by PatBull on Nov 20, 2008 12:41 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I bet you

Vinny (who was never a great defender) could have guarded Hughes last night….even thogh Vinny’s 43-44?

by majoyenrac on Nov 20, 2008 12:32 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

throws a towel
throws a fist
flops at him

Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.

by chibullsfan03 on Nov 20, 2008 12:41 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Is Deng available?

He seems to have regressed since his outstanding postseason of a few years ago (any possible explanations for why?). Do you guys think he could be had (by, oh, say the Blazers…) or would you still consider him off-limits?

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 20, 2008 9:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

I'll trade him to you for Ike Diogu and Shavlik Randolph

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 20, 2008 10:53 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Actually, the Bulls could actually use either of those two players

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Nov 20, 2008 10:53 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

If I was GM,

I’d trade him to the Blazers.
Not gonna happen though.

by Prevenge on Nov 20, 2008 2:30 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

do the Blazers need 4 SFs?

we already have 3 and luckily 1 is hurt so the other two can play

by Bust a Bucket on Nov 20, 2008 10:13 PM CST to parent up   0 recs

Deng would be difficult to trade this year

due to being a Base Year Compensation player.

by Granny Waiters on Nov 21, 2008 3:11 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

wow, this post almost made me feel better about that craptastic display of ineptitude...

….on vinny’s part. the worst part was having to watch avery johnson’s half time analysis and thinking to myself, is it too late to try to hire him this season?

by jocrucial on Nov 20, 2008 12:43 AM CST   0 recs

Not really

He said about Derrick some good things and that he is in a toughest position right now.

General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.

by Azabullsfan on Nov 20, 2008 1:05 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

He seemed like the robot and repeated almost a hundred times

"You need to defend the paint… blá, blá, blá, blá, blá… You need to defend the paint … blá, blá, blá, blá, blá, blá… You need to defend the pain"

http://comunidadebulleana.blogspot.com/ - Comunidade Bulleana (O blog dos Bulls em Portugal)

by bull83 on Nov 20, 2008 9:57 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

he'd be an excellent coach.

Greg Oden, where posters happen.

by ratbastird on Nov 20, 2008 7:18 AM CST to parent up   0 recs

Tough loss guys

I was excited to see Rose play. Every team lays a turd every now and again. Tonight it was your turn. You will bounce back soon I’m sure. The Blazers lost a tough game the night before and came out hungry. Chicago has some good young players and Gooden has the creepiest beard in the league. That counts for something.

Enjoy Rose!

I'm a little confused by your tactics

by oderiferous emanations 74 on Nov 20, 2008 12:43 AM CST   0 recs