Game #8 Preview: Atlanta Hawks vs. Chicago Bulls
[Thanks to 'Duhon's Hangover' for today's game preview. Some news: Gooden is a game-time decision for tonight -ed.]
After a miraculous 1.7% chance, Derrick Rose is performing beautifully for the both the Bulls and my Fantasy team. He is averaging 17.7 pts, 3.9 rebounds, and 5.1 assists with only 7 NBA games under his belt and sporting a pretty PER of 16.6. He is the true bright spot in this ragtag group of players we call the Bulls, even with a crowded backcourt Rose was getting 30+ minutes a game while veteran guards Hinrich and Gordon suffered. The quagmire in the backcourt finally began raising a lowly "Mission Accomplished" banner when Larry Hughes got injured during pre-season, and recently Kirk Hinrich tore a ligament in his thumb which will sideline him for 3 months. This is a tough blow to die-hard Hinrich fans but, it does clear the way for Ben Gordon to start and he has been shooting lights-out (49.5% FG% and 45.9% from beyond the arc, TS% of 63%!) with a PER of over 20! For the first time in Gordon's career, he has not had a slow start in the beginning of the season and this could lead the way for him to average anywhere from 20-24 ppg, and a fat new contract.
Another notable injury is Josh Smith, who tweaked his ankle after trying to block a shot into the 200 level against the Raptors. When we talk about monsters, I mean we aren't talking about Cloverfield, but we are talking about a guy who was averaging 14 pts 10 boards, 3 blocks. J Smooth has nothing to hide, you want the camera on him at all time because he will put on a Sprite Dunk Contest the second he powders up and checks in. His frankenstein athleticism [ed. note: I'm not sure how athletic Dr. Frankenstein was, but his monster was pretty unathletic. AaronGray-esque, even] and defensive aggressiveness has led the Hawks to a 5-0 opening record with an average of 96PPG. The Hawks have a double digit point differential (10.2) in those 5 games, which means they have been winning with defense this year. Without J Smooth, Woodson will have to look at these guys:

"Above Average" Joe Johnson continues to summon his popular vote with his all-star caliber numbers early in the season. In reality, fantasy leagues out there who drafted Joe Johnson in early 2-3 rounds look like Jose Calderon drafters of last year, okay maybe not to such a degree, but Joe is shooting a blistering 50.5% from the field, making it rain 44% clip from beyond the arc, and filling the bucket 25 ppg. He will be a tough cover for the Bulls, but with Gordon playing so well lately, whatever point total Joe puts in, it will most likely be negated.
"Babyface" Al Horford proved his toughness against the Celtics last year and was the only rookie to nearly average a double-double. Though he has gotten of to a slow start than most Hawk fans would have liked, he is still putting up solid numbers of 9 and 9 and providing tough interior defense. If Drew Gooden starts, he should be able to hold his own against Horford and draw him outside around 18-20ft range and give D. Rose enough time to operate. This matchup should also be a draw.
Mike Bibby just needs to play like he did with the Kings and distribute and score when he sees the opportunity. This is an interesting match up for Rose as he should be able to just punish the slower less agile headband wearing Bibby. Hopefully Barbosa gave Bibby the number to the nice frame store for the poster Rose put on him.
Marvin Williams, has been seen as disappointment as the 2nd pick in the 2005 draft which meant the hawks missed out on some perennial superstars in Deron Williams, Chris Paul (MVP anyone?), Andrew Bynum, and Danny Granger. Although not a bad player, he has not shown his true potential as a NBA player and maybe makes Mike Woodson want to revoke Childress' visa soon. I would think Deng has an advantage over the athletic Williams, who still doesn't have much of an offensive game. Deng is coming into his own the past few games and is getting his offensive rhythm back, though he was burned by Lebron the last game (who hasn't?) he has been playing inspired defense lately and coming up with timely and key buckets in all of our wins.
Zaza will be playing at center and moving Horford to PF, I like his eyebrows and his hair looks soft. Whether if Gray or Noah start, they should be able overwhelm the stagnant Zaza with energy and hustle.
The Bulls came off of a good weekend where they dismantled the high powered Suns offense and held them to a paltry 83 points. We can handle the inside-outside threat that is Suns offense which leads to believe that we can handle the Hawks just the same. They were going toe-to-toe with the Cavs, but simply ran out of gas as the King took over. As Sam Smith pointed out in this recent blog, it's a bit of poetic justice as MJ would punish the Cavs in his heyday. We do have enough options and defensive matchups to keep the Atlanta on their toes but the real difference comes down to the bench. We have enough firepower off the bench to really put a dent into the Hawks 2nd line. They have the likes of Speedy Claxton, and Mo Evans, while we have Nocioni, Thomas and Thabo.
As mentioned by Doug Thonus in his latest podcast, the Bulls have the 5th toughest schedule in the NBA, and if you take out the losses to the Bulls, the teams they have played combine for a record of 19-10. I give VDN props for keeping the Bulls boat a float at 3-4. This season could have easily started totalitarian Skiles-esqe 0-7, but VDN has managed to keep the Bulls competitive in all but two games (@BOS, @CLE). Every win is crucial as the Bulls embark on a brutal west coast trip next week, and a win against the upstart Hawks would be a good start.
Catch the game on Comcast Sports Net at 7:30 pm CST in the United Center.
Prediction: BULLS-98, Hawks-93
Randoms:
- Mike Woodson runs a tough transition defense but his center key piece is Josh Smith? Will the Bulls be able to exploit this in the Bulls faster pace floor game?
- Noce seems to look even more lost on defense than last year. How is this possible?
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Nice first post.
And even better username. Heh.
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 3:39 PM CST
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Oh, and Ben is right
“Whoever starts, he’s not going to play 48 minutes, so we’re all going to have to play him some of the time anyway,” Gordon said. “Joe Johnson kills everybody. I don’t know how how tall a guy is has to do with anything. We have to play team defense. He’s a great player. But we have to make him play both ends of the floor, and that’s what we plan to do.”
He must read Blog-a-Bull! ;-)
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 3:51 PM CST
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I'd rec him, too, if I could.
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST
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I would like to take a moment
to thank BG for making me feel special.
Green and an asterisk for something I didn’t say! Wohoo!!!!
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 6:58 PM CST
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good stuff
like you said luol should do well, but i was hpoing for that agniast grant hill but he hreally didnt go to the rim that much aganist hill. he did get some jump shots ina nd everyone else was playing real good that day that it didnt matter. it will also be interesting to see the mathups aganist joe johnson. BG will have to bring his defense game more than his offensive one tonight, because we really dont want thabo in there eating minutes for defensive purposes. and i dont think it’ll be too easy for noah or gray aganst zaza. when he wants to play and has the will to do so, hes been pretty solid, especially on the boards, which is a unit that we arent too good in. remember this guy was gutsy enough to take on KG
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
by Yibs on
Nov 11, 2008 4:09 PM CST
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Joe Johnson vs Ben Gordan?
I think the Bulls should start Thabo on Joe Johnson tonight because Ben on Johnson is a disaster. Now Gordan will get his 36-40 mins but he will just start off the bench. If anyone thinks Deng could guard Johnson they are crazy. Deng can’t guard the 2 because he is too slow footed.
Duhon “one of John Paxson’s good character guys from a winning program” – ha
by Jscho316 on
Nov 11, 2008 4:43 PM CST
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Mike McGraw, is that you?!
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 4:54 PM CST
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some kind of robot
Ben ‘Gordan’ is actually the 5’9" fellow chgobr met at the mall.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM CST
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Fun Read man
"Hopefully Barbosa gave Bibby the number to the nice frame store for the poster Rose put on "
^
classic
"You’re caught up in basketball. Get caught up in life" - Starbury's Head Tattoo
by Belize on
Nov 11, 2008 5:12 PM CST
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Any cheeky links to watch the game online please?
by materd on
Nov 11, 2008 5:31 PM CST
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I've got 2 questions
1. What channel is it on?
2. If I don’t get that channel, then is there a crappy feed to watch it on?
Get the rock to Rose!!
by stupidgenius on
Nov 11, 2008 5:43 PM CST
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i've got nba broadband
instead of that shit, that lags.
by armstrong2389 on
Nov 11, 2008 6:04 PM CST
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I would start these guys
PG: Derrick Rose (If you feel it’s necessary that I give an explanation, then an explanation for you is necessary.)
SG: Gordon (I’ve given up on Thabo being decent, and at least Gordon’s scoring will cancel out Joe Johnson’s.)
SF: Deng (Marvin Williams isn’t the greatest player. He’s got athleticism and nothing else. Deng is decently athletic, and he has some sort of game.)
PF: Drew Gooden (I guess Tyrus would be okay too, as long as he doesn’t go 2-17. Gooden is stronger than Tyrus and can draw Horford to the perimeter, but Tyrus could run him into the ground.)
C: Noah (Gray is the alternative. No more explanation necessary.)
Get the rock to Rose!!
by stupidgenius on
Nov 11, 2008 6:11 PM CST
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tt is gonna dunk on harford 2nite
i can feel it
"You’re caught up in basketball. Get caught up in life" - Starbury's Head Tattoo
by Belize on
Nov 11, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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horford*...meh
"You’re caught up in basketball. Get caught up in life" - Starbury's Head Tattoo
by Belize on
Nov 11, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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assuming he can dunk it into the basket
but no doubt there will be a foul called
by lampnasty on
Nov 11, 2008 7:01 PM CST
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OMG
It’s the “Dream Lineup”!
Rose, Gordon, Deng, Thomas and Noah!
by Option27 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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I was just going to post the same thing.
Except the dream part…
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
by Dionysus2.0 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:04 PM CST
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hes a master of karate and friendship for everyone
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
by Yibs on
Nov 11, 2008 7:31 PM CST
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According to CSN
No Gooden tonight.
Starters:
Rose/BG/Deng/Tyrus/Noah
YES!
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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And here comes the big egg to be laid!
by tyger1147 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:05 PM CST
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All you Gordon and Thomas lovers...
…and you Deng and Noah apologists: YOU’LL ALL GET YOUR COMEUPPANCE!!!!
by tyger1147 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:05 PM CST
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bummer on no Gooden though
watch this lineup get creamed… with BG posted up 12 times and Noah shoved out of the lane by hortford, heh.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Nov 11, 2008 7:05 PM CST
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Contrary to popular belief
The Bulls can’t ride on five players for a whole game. This is going to turn to a shit show after the 2nd half of the 2nd quarter
by NittanyCub on
Nov 11, 2008 7:06 PM CST
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I wish this lineup could start w/ Hinrich, Nocioni and Gooden backing up.
Now that sounds like a recipe for excitement!!!
by tyger1147 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:09 PM CST
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hahaha
lolz abound this evening
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:10 PM CST
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Actually, that's my preferred lineup/rotation.
See your subs below. Replacing Thabo w/ Kirk and Gray w/ Gooden is about as good as this team can do. In my opinion.
by tyger1147 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:17 PM CST
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oh, me too
I’m just loving all of the !s in everyones posts tonight
That would be my 8-man rotation if I were Vin-Dawg
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:20 PM CST
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Yeah...Thabo, Noc, and Gray off the bench is pretty much horrendous
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:12 PM CST
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We should start them
so our bench can outscore their bench! Why they have not thought of that before I don’t know!
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by cranscape on
Nov 11, 2008 7:18 PM CST
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And they'd be bigger!
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:22 PM CST
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Norm just says the Bulls need a bigger guard in the lineup
All I can do is shake my head. Ugh.
And now he’s saying he thinks Noc can play the 2! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:06 PM CST
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LOL
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Nov 11, 2008 7:06 PM CST
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"AttiTUDE"
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Nov 11, 2008 7:06 PM CST
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HE JUST SAID HUGHES IS THE ANSWER
Someone slap me aside the head and wake me up from this awful dream
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:07 PM CST
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If the question is
“who gets paid a lot of money to suck” then yes, Hughes is the answer.
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by cranscape on
Nov 11, 2008 7:19 PM CST
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Hughes must have pictures on the entire organization
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:22 PM CST
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Followes by "Hughes is the answer", No more pe game for me!
by Juiceboxjerry on
Nov 11, 2008 7:07 PM CST
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Gill . . .
“His offense is his defense”
Touche
by Option27 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:07 PM CST
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BUT NOC IS BIG! DON'T YOU GET IT?!
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by Illini15 on
Nov 11, 2008 7:11 PM CST
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I'm watching
Bobcats v. Nuggets while I wait for the game start… and as slow as Nocioni is. He is thousand times quicker than Adam Morrison. Why this is relevant? I don’t know.
by silentpete on
Nov 11, 2008 7:26 PM CST
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Certainly your
not referring to facial hair.
by silentpete on
Nov 11, 2008 7:28 PM CST
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Oh, did he just shave the hair, not the stasche?
by Tobo on
Nov 11, 2008 7:32 PM CST
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I didn't notice
or maybe I did notice and I was so upset I’m just blocking it out.
by silentpete on
Nov 11, 2008 7:33 PM CST
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Its not a good sign
when Gill is the voice of reason.
by JeffD on
Nov 11, 2008 7:10 PM CST
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anyone have a feed to watch the game online?
I tried the last night of Free LP Broadband, but it appears they are blacking the game out.
by fundamentallysound on
Nov 11, 2008 7:30 PM CST
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Not blacked out
but Im in Champaign, if you’re in Chicago you might not get it since CSN is “local” although cable. I have CSN too, but LP does work for me.
by Tobo on
Nov 11, 2008 7:36 PM CST
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Stooge 2
is said to be showing it eventually. Probably at tipoff.
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by cranscape on
Nov 11, 2008 7:41 PM CST
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Nothing on ch2 so far though. ;(
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Nov 11, 2008 7:45 PM CST
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