Preseason Open Game Thread #1: Bulls vs. Dallas Mavericks
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 9, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
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PrintMy word, the first gamethread of the season, and first time using the fancy new SBN2.0 commenting system. Welcome to the terrordome.
Noah, Ruffin, and perhaps Ben Gordon are out. Aaron Gray is in (thank goodness).
No obvious answer as to what the starting lineup will be outside of Luol Deng at SF. There's reports that Hinrich will start (of course! he's...tenured?) with Rose or Hughes. I've also read some VDN quotes that suggest that the starting frontcourt would be Gooden and Tyrus, and with Noah out that's certainly the likeliest combination.
(Lets all hope that Hughes isn't starting over Rose (or anybody). Beyond the reason that it's stupid, it'll also make me unnecessarily squeamish about a preseason game and any extrapolations I can take towards the season. Because to be fair, tonight's lineup shouldn't be of any relevance. So I hope the Bulls don't even have me considering it as sort-of possibly maybe perhaps relevant. Why tempt me?)
Crisis averted, KC reports that it's Rose/Hinrich/Deng/Thomas/Gooden
I can think of two obvious candiates for ' who to watch': Rose and Thomas. Maybe VDN will show something on a scheme-level that will be of interest, though I'm not too good at seeing such things anyway. But I really hope that Rose and Thomas put on a show, and the veterans don't look substantially worse or hurt themselves.
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Game starts at 7:30 CST on ComcastSportsNet. Another brand-new element of this season: the debut of new TV play-by-plan man Neil Funk!
This is an open game thread, which means that once the game is over there will be so many comments that it's best to let it burn, die and never be revisited. Lets use this preseason to work on our in-season commenting skills, civility, not-posting-huge-images, etc? alright? go!
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dammit
the first time i ever link anything and you beat me with the lineup by like 5 seconds… would rather see bg in there when the season starts?
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
Booyah.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
can't wait to hear Funk call the game
and all the games this year for that matter…Kaboom!
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE
So this is a real quote?
But Larry Hughes is healthy—and coming off the bench. When the Bulls acquired him from Cleveland last Feb., Hughes laughed when questioned about his role with the Bulls.
“I’m a starter in this league,” Hughes said.
Blech.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
then please retire!
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully this will also be the opening night starting lineup.
I’ve accepted that Kirk is tenured. Rose, Deng, and Thomas should be starting no matter what. And Gooden is a better choice to start at center than Noah right now.
I agree.
It’s definitely not the scariest of lineups, but Gordon, Nocioni and Noah off the bench isn’t bad. Gordon is a better offensive player than Hinrich, Hinrich the better defender. Whatever. Gooden can “bang” w/ the fatty centers and Noah can come and run them off the court. Or something. It’s a good 8-man rotation. Thabo and Gray can “prove” themselves.
Like you said, as long as Rose, Deng and Thomas are starting, it’s hard to quibble too much.
I don't Noah is the type of player whose development
will be hurt by coming off the bench. And I assume it’s a choice between Gooden/Thomas and Gooden/ Noah. I choose Thomas, and I believe Thomas mitigates some of the crappier aspects of Gooden’s game.
Goddammit, get Duhon out of there
Sorry, force of habit. Hopefully I can get that out my system before the regular season starts.
by Big D on Oct 9, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
and direct TV
reupped my nba league pass with out telling me…I told myself I wouldn’t do it again after the crummy product that was Bull’s basketball last year… but that was pre Rose… I’m not mad….
DirectTV always automatically renews sports packages
You gotta call them to change it for future reference
in reference to the starting lineup cited above,
that might be our best. Gooden gives us strength and low post scoring – or at least more than Noah!
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Can anyone tell me what comcast is showing now?
Because i think i’m connected to comcast, but is showing someting about the bears…
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Comcast will broadcast the game, right?
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Thank GOD!!!
I’m anxious to see Rose play…
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Let's all pledge now, by replying to this post,
not to freak out unduly if Rose is not Chris Paul, Tyrus is not skinny kemp, and Larry Hughes gets 30 minutes burn.
We the undersigned do so swear not to freak out:
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Awesome seeing D-Rose out on the court.
Can’t believe this guy is on our team. Let’s get this shit started.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Stacey . .
“I think the Chicago fans are gonna fall in love with this kidd”
- Regarding Derrick Rose
Ummm, You think Stacey?
I think most of us already have
Chills.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Nice Kirk
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
My god, we're throwing alley oops to our PG.
That is pretty sick.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
You can already see the space Derrick is opening up for everyone
BG is going to love this
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Don't expect to be for a while
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Looks lost
I know he won’t be too great of a defender at first.
Also could do without the pair of 3’s he’s attempted so far
Seriously.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Christ, our jumpshooting...
Is BG dressed? get him in.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I like Drew Gooden but don't like his 18 footers
and Kirk is handling the ball a fair amount but Antoine Wright is too strong (and big) for him
Who know who really looks good?
Tyrus.
And not just because he’s 2 for 2.
Seems to always be the right spot. Offensively and defensively
after listening to funk's voice on the radio
I kinda like having him on the tv now
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
I like the offensive tempo thus far
the D is porous, and they’re nervous with their shots…but if this kind of speed is what they’re preaching, I’m happy.
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Absolutely
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Hughes and Noce
both in before Thabo Sefo. I just threw up in my mouth.
Tad nervous but running the offense well, setting our guys up for great shots.
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two 3pointers, a shot in traffic
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and an alley-oop. Seriously an oop to a PG.
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
2 3's and he missed another drawing to draw contact going to the basket
May have missed another or two. Tyrus dropped an alley-oop pass on the 2nd play of the game. Derrick could have at least a couple more assists if these guys could hit a shot.
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trying* to draw contact i meant
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Drew showing some range
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Noce is lost...
It seems that he doesn’t know what to do
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
well, thank God there's preseason,
because this defensive is…not…there.
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Really though...
You’re seeing a veteran team relaxed out there that’s done this for years. Our team is very young and showing it right now. It’s going to take some time, gotta be patient.
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Red Kerr
Didn’t look healthy. I know he missed some time last year, but I really thought he aged quite a bit this offseason.
I did love hearing Funk on the TV, but kind of wish it was Funk and Kerr instead of Funk and King.
Stacey did a decent job (though I will get tired of him saying every 5 minutes that we got to love what this kid (Rose) will bring every night….or that "we’ll see more of what this kid (Rose) brings in the future. or that Chicago is really gonna like this kid (Rose) and that after every play Rose touches the ball, that is something Chicago fans are really gonna like about this kid….
I mean it’s ok to say that a few times here or there—maybe twice in the first quarter than once each in the following 3 quarters for the hype factor, but every other line was a bit much. If Stacey scales that praise back though, he’ll be a nice foil to the lead Funk.
Still the King-Funk combo was professional and for game one much better than the Dore, Kerr-King combo of last yr….Neil Funk is awesome on TV. I like that we can hear him more (since I watch much more than I listen on the radio).
gotta question for chi natives
its 33-21 and a 20 sec timeout by dallas on d stream. How much time diffrence from u guys?
There's out of control Tyrus
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tyrus looks damn good
confident, skilled.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Tyrus even passing! Good to see.
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I've watched pretty much all of the games
He hardly passes the ball.
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Then you missed something.
He’s one of the best passers on the team, especially at interior passing and making the post entry pass. He also had the best assist rate among the Bulls bigs last season.
Aaron Gray
Looks a lot lighter on his feet…nice feed from Tyrus
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
That's a wonderful analogy;
now if only he would rise up during the Bulls’ times of trouble….
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Thabo's drunk
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Holy Crap that was fast
Hey, whats the ettiquet with these game threads? Do we try to keep the comments linear with the game? Or if Rose does something awesome should I scroll up and find a previous Rose comment and reply?
it gets really informal during games;
nobody will get on your case for not replying or something like that. one line replies, ie, DAMN! or TYRUS?!?! or oooooooo are also accepted.
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If he would have dunked that
Alll over ESPN
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 9, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Larry has one offensive move
Shoot a forced shot from 20 feet
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 9, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
No, the other one is
post up guard from 16-feet away and then immediately take turnaround fadeaway
by messwiththebull on Oct 9, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
uh oh
We are now playing small ball…Deng is the PF with Thabo and Hughes.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
Really Small
Simmons in for Gray.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
The more I see Hughes handle the ball
the more I feel like I have to take a poop
Larry Hughes
is nightmarishly bad. Terrible defense. Worse shot selection. Worse shots.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I think it's so VDN
can say he gave Hughes a chance. When he benches him.
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If Derrick gets the minutes we hope he gets
I’m willing to bet that he beats Kirk’s best season assist average in his rookie year
Not if he spends a lot of time out there with Hughes and Thabo! ;)
(j/k – first game, preseason, all that crap. I’m sure Thabo will be better most nights.)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
GET HUGHES OUT OF THERE!!!
Fuck, I hate him…
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Wine em, Dine em, 69 em
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If you watched Bass game film just based on tonight
and were a scout, you’d swear to your GM that he should trade for him at any and all costs.
by messwiththebull on Oct 9, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
and he follows it up by
trying to show off some post moves and ends up getting foul. Maybe all his expirience getting forced into the leadership role in Britain is starting to pay off.
I wanna say that most of these shots would be going in if this was the regular season
But after years of watching this shit, I don’t think there will be much of a difference
Gordon
Say what you want about him, but we’re desperately gonna need his scoring this year. It’s the pre-season I know, but ugh.
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it's not as if he would hurt our defense!
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, normally I'd say he would, but not after that showing.
I don’t think Rosie O’Donnell after a feast at the Sizzler would be much worse out there.
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She would at least
fill up the lane.
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I think it's worst than last year
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
For now, of course
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Reason #4080 on Why Not To Play Larry Hughes
When Hughes and Rose have been on the court at the same time tonight, Hughes appears to be the primary ball handler, with Rose playing off the ball apparently as the 2.
You’re killing your father, Larry.
And he
also dribbles the shot clock down doing nothing and either jacks a shot up or passes it to someone who isn’t in a position to shoot. Basketball IQ of a rock.
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The weird thing is, I don't think he's unintelligent,
just selfish on the basketball court. He’s fairly articulate during interviews. But when he steps onto the hardwood, he just transforms into this mad bomber.
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Basketball IQ
and the kind that shows itself on the floor. The guy might be able to talk, but it doesn’t show up on the floor.
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WTF?
My HiDef became regular def?
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
Nah.
Local. You just notice the difference when it changes abruptly
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
Sum up of the 1st half
1) Tyrus looks amazing
2) Defense is horrid
3) Rose is exactly what I thought he was at this stage. Sets up everyone.
4) Aaron Gray made a couple nice plays
5) Larry Hughes must be killed
Agreed.
Also:
-Deng looks … bad, but he still has that jumpshot! Woo jumpshot.
-Every time we get a block, it’s a Mavs dunk.
-Thabo is losing the ball WAY too much. Dunno why I didn’t notice this tendency before. Maybe I just wasn’t watching enough.
Thabo is dribbling
way too high for some reason and not keeping the ball close. Hopefully he can make adjustments because that isn’t normal for him.
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He's still in shock that Larry got the call before he did.
Even I fell off my chair and am still a bit shellshocked.
by messwiththebull on Oct 9, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So that is the defense
that we spent our money on? Ouch. At least we are getting the offense we paid for. Oh, wait.
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Thabo is playing a lot of Small Forward.
While I understand that he has the skill set to play the position, it is not where I would like to see him playing. Even in the preseason. Thabo’s advantage is his size against two guards in the league. I worry that playing him in this small line-up at the 3 will hurt his development at the 2, where I think he can provide mismatches. Additionally, I think this lineup is a sign that Larry Hughes will actually be getting a look at the 2, which most of us fans do not want.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
halftime.
I’m curious to see if anything changes with regard to the lack of intensity on defense. Being jittery with the jumpers is one thing…screwing up rotations on defense is one thing…but they just don’t seem to be trying very hard.
Paging VDN?
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Noce didn't play much
And since Thabo is playing SF, i bet he will be traded soon
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
*Noce didn't played much
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Thanks for correcting me ;)
You know my english is not good
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
cool.
i can understand a little portuguese cause my sister lived in brazil for 2 years.
it always amazes me how well nonnative english speakers speak – english is a hard language to learn! and so many americans never bother to learn another language.
Well, english is actually the easiest
language to learn.
Try French, German, all asian languages, etc…
The Game chose him !
also to add
english is so hard because of all the exceptions to the grammar “rules” (using that word loosely). everything basically does its own thing. romance languages are much more straightforward. i think even german is more strict in this regard (and that’s one of the closest languages to english, i think dutch is the closest major language).
He still found
time to get off a few stupid fouls. Noc is not a spring chick, yet he still does the same stupid fouls. And he is constantly jumping towards shooters. Still. How long has he been playing ball?
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This roster is such a clusterfuck
I hate when people say that “it’s a good problem to have” because it just creates dissension between players and coaches and fucks with the growth of young players. Trade some of these assholes already!!!!
I really hope Hughes is done for the night
he serves no purpose whatsoever
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 9, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions
here's my question -
do the coaches see something we don’t? it’s not as if playing him ameliorates his awful contract. in fact, by playing him you screw yourself in both financial AND basketball terms!
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
well 46% FG
aint bad, but holy crap 16-34 being outscored in the paint owwwwwww
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
because nobody picked him in the first round!
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
KC Johnson
In the second quarter, Rose returned at the 7:25 mark. His first NBA field goal came at 6:45 on a nifty move over Mavs big man DeSagana Diop. He finished the first half with four points on 1-for-6 shooting, as well as four assists, two rebounds, three fouls and two turnovers.
Rose clearly has the speed to compete and eventually excel at this level. But he needs to learn personnel, as well as NBA sets. Mavs backup point guard Jose Barea even took him to the hoop for an easy second-quarter basket.
the trouble right now is that transition offense
doesn’t happen when you play defense like this. also, as nitpicky as this sounds, big (especially Gooden) need to give the ball up immediately and crisply. Gooden likes to stand around with the ball in his hand after a rebound. We saw it, Drew. We don’t need to watch you mouthbreathe with the ball in your hand.
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damn
Rose’s vision is much better than I thought.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
It's really impressive for sure. Love it!
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If he only
had players worth passing to. :)
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damn kara thrace pessimism...
Gordon, Deng, Hinrich, Thomas! They can shoot.
Right?
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by MPG on Oct 9, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
and his hair
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Noah's hair
Was amazingly awesomely messy yesterday. Can’t wait to see his hair block a shot this season.
its because
Larry Hughes isn’t on the floor trying to be the PG(yet)
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pf from Memphis state.
Check him on you tube.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
ah OK
he was in the mix when we got Powell, Brown, and Ruffin last few weeks
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He was sitting
in the 300 level and they pulled him down and asked him to suit up. Oh, and he gets to play with Hughes. So it is more of a punishment than a reward.
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by cranscape on Oct 9, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Three Quarters.
Zero 3pters for the Bulls…we miss Gordon…a little.
"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson
I'm glad Hughes is showing
his full array of skills for the coaching staff. Get it out your system! (it being Hughes)
Larry Hughes:
prime time, junk time, any time. Selfish. Bad.
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It's Darius Washington's World
And We’re All Just Lucky To Be Living In It.
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its true!
Afterall, he IS our leading 3-point shooter tonight
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
d'oh!
thought i hit reply to option27
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
they are also
playing against scrubs, though
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 9, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Some interesting stats 2/3of the way through the 4th quarter
Bulls down by 10
FG%
Bulls 47.4%
Mavs 46.4%
TOs
Bulls 21
Mavs 9
Missed free throws
Mavs 5
Bulls 10
Can we get Washington instead of Hughes???
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Flop
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He had a heat pack thing on him.
The announcers made some asinine joke about how he could go to sleep on the bench since he had a bed on his back, and didn’t say anything about what it was.
Go, announcing team!
i think we can trade some guards now
if washington keeps playing this well we should just trade hinrich now and have washington be the backup pg for us.
preseason.
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