coudn’t sell Icee’s in the desert

We thought that the Bulls problems were Jerry Krause and the problem is becoming more apperant that the problem is Jerry Reinsdorf. Remember when no star wanted to go to the Bulls because of management. If reinsdorf keeps doing what he is doing it’s going to happen again and if Jerry doesn’t sell the team Chicago will never have what they need around Rose.

and he used the old ‘talk around the league’ source.

What I don’t get is what was all that last-minute negotiation talk we heard before training camp?

it can be interpreted that even the things you think he’s done was actually done by Reinsdorf and Gar Foreman (and their cap lawyer).

He did draft Rose though!

I can understand giving the ultimatum to Gordon for two reasons. (1) If you think you’ve negotiated with Ben in good faith but he hasn’t reciprocated, you give him a deadline and take away his ability to drag it out and put pressure on you to raise the offer. Also, if you think that you’re not close to the other side in your expectations and you can see the middle ground between you is much higher than your bottom line, you just give your bottom line and say, “You make the decision.” Both are sensible negotiating positions in the abstract. (2) More importantly, I can see the Bulls upping the timeline because Gordon’s contract status was hamstringing the team from making moves. Pax said this multiple times; Ben was first priority, and once Ben was settled, the team could figure out what to do with the rest of the roster via trades and such. If you give Ben a deadline, you’re trying to speed up the process so you can make other moves. I fully support this kind of rationale.

As we all know, the Bulls didn’t follow through on point (2). After Ben (allegedly) said “leave it,” they didn’t do anything: no trades. Nothing. So instead of following through on a sensible plan, we had the worst of both worlds: no trade clearing up the roster, and no long-term Ben contract. It really does beg the question of what these guys do all day.

Did swindle the Cavs a bit in our Gooden/Hughes trade….which while it won’t make us great, will give us some flexibility in trades, and Wallace certainly hasn’t improved post the trade.

So I would give him a little credit. Plus I don’t know I like VDN, the offense is still a mess, but there are plays, which is different than before, where Skiles (who supposedly had 300 million plays) used to essentially call the same play of pick and roll, just change the PG for it (Hinrich or when Skiles wanted to really be shocking Gordon) and change the guy who they played it with…..it got our offense really stale.

Now we actually are building an offense out there, which is having some issues still, but might come around. Of course it’s tough to build an ideal offense without any post play….

But yeah so far I like the VDN and Rose signings and the trade last year. How many moves to the other GM’s make all year long? They may make 1 or none besides the draft.

I think a trade is coming, but likely won’t happen until mid Dec earliest or trade deadline latest. I just hope if we do make a trade it either is for a superstar (unlikely) or is at minimum for a contract that comes off the books after teh 2009-2010 season, so we can be a player in the big sweepstakes. Our depth on this roster and young talent really should allow us to make trades at any position and certainly not become much worse…..and might make us better.

put him at Kirk’s level, and just SLIGHTLY above Noc’s…I’d be offended at that too.