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Open Game Thread #2: Bulls at Boston Celtics - OVERFLOW

First half, big time stinko.

So bad that the fact Aaron Gray played so much isn't the worst thing I've seen tonight.

This may be one of those games where we just watch Derrick Rose and pick out some good from that. And assume everyone else will get traded eventually.

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woo! new thread, new half.

hopefully better results!

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This seems like a great time

to go with a new lineup to start the 2nd half.

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It will be interesting to see if VDN

had some motivational talk over the half. I really want to see them come on the floor calm, collected, and less mopey. It is one thing to lose it is another to look like losers while doing it.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

just ignore the score and play.

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

About to go home from work

hopefully this game gets a little better so it’s bearable to watch when I get home.

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Oct 31, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we please try to be at least civil for the second half of the game.

That first post is the most unfun thing I had to get through on this site ever.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya tonight has been horrible

I’m kinda regretting my decision to stay home tonight instead of going out

by Edicus2288i on Oct 31, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Give the keys to Rose

and let him drive the Ferrari. I feel its too early in the game to say this, but that is our only alternative right now, sadly.

by dannyp07 on Oct 31, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I personally find it humorous that D Rose almost looks

irritated at the play of his team.

It’s almost as if he is befuddled by the organized incompetence.

This game was a predicable loss, though. Write it off.

I think we’ll win tomorrow night.

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by 1958ChiTown on Oct 31, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps we should all talk about Rose

and forget the rest of the team for this game. Rose clearly cares. The rest of them are used to losing from last year. They are going to have to learn to not take losing like a bunch of 8th graders.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree it's a predictable loss

We don’t have to look completely incompetent though.

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, true!

At one point he was giving it to somebody about something, and Gooden came in the makeshift huddle to calm things, and then VDN called a time-out.
But, yeah was Rose was giving it out, to Gordon I think it was, about a mistake,
THIS IS GOOD TO SEE!
Young or not, since there is NO leader at the moment, it may as well be their best player, Rose!

by rtblues on Nov 1, 2008 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see the game

But in the highlights Memphis looked athletic and tough against Magic.

by majoyenrac on Nov 1, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They had a nice comeback, but Rudy Gay had some circus shots go in

It’s another nice test for Rose to go up against Conley and Lowry, at least to see how he can manage defensively. Deng has to step up because Gay will easily score 20, and our frontcourt has to do a better job against the bruiser types, which Marc Gasol is.

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by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose

If rose takes control now we might see another 30pt performance?

by materd on Oct 31, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright

Bulls are going as Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hide for Halloween. So that must mean will see the non ugly side in the second half.

by RogersPark Kris on Oct 31, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1-11?

uau :(

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully they told him that during VDN motivational speech in the locker room.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Commenters note the Bulls lack passion.

It’s certainly true that the Bulls didn’t have that enthusiasm. Except Noc, who had the enthusiasm of one of those old ladies with a house with like 300 cats living in it.

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus comes out

and jacks ANOTHER long 2. WTFFFFFF

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JFG is is right on key

Let Tyrus play in the paint and Gooden shoot that jumper

by Edicus2288i on Oct 31, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did they seriously call a T

on del harris for yelling

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Del Harris

Trying to get the team fired up? Vinny should be doing that…

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Rose. Wow.

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOWOWOWOWOW

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine too

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cmon rose

do it to it

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank God...

For Derrick Rose.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rose...

…Beast

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Give Rose ball

Get the Fuck out of the way

by Edicus2288i on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There ya go Gooden

don’t settle for the shot

by Tobo on Oct 31, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good God...

CJ did you see THAT!

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

that’s what you suggested he do

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly I was mistaken...

He has NO place on the floor I guess.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now is the time

to sit him down for a little. “Sit this one out, Champ”

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll admit he has talent...

Probably best used as the fifth option. I just get so damned frustrated watching this happen.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understandable

He’s too frustrated to make a lot of smart plays right now.

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf Tyrus!!!

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude, Tyrus.

Fighting under there, throwing elbows, I like.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch tt

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

woah KG

first chase utley, now this

by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wat the hell was that tyrus

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thabo

trying out for the globetrotters

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why dont they use replay for that?

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would hurt

the integrity of the game…well, bs calls hurt the integrity of the game. I thought they were going to work on calling charges over the off season. Doesn’t look like it.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, definitely in the circle. Awful again.

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by CubsClapp on Oct 31, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bs charge

keep him in anyway. let him foul out, hes doing good, hes the only thing we have going

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can see how non Bulls fans

could have been sick of us back in the day if they always treated champs like this with the fouls. It is making the game unwatchable. If Rose fouls out I am turning it off.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, maybe this is karma

but the foul calls are so out of whack it sickening. I would send this tape to the NBA office if I was the Bulls. They are letting the Celtics get away with murder and calling every touch foul on the Bulls.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Celtics

would probably win this game without that much help by the refs. We are not that good but there is no need to punish us with crazy calls. The Celtics are good enough they don’t need nanny refs. What the refs are doing is making this game UNWATCHABLE.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game is really ugly

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hear he is coming

out with a nice herbal tea line. Will put you right to sleep.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus.

At least they’re letting him play it out. It’ll make for an interesting film session tomorrow when he’s asked to explain what kind of landed fish he’s flopping around like.

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TYrus

Needs to seat for like 5 min to calm down

by materd on Oct 31, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He knows he isn't playing well.

It is probably embarrassing. One of those towel on the head on the bench nights for sure. Except tonight they are making him play it out ugly on the floor for whatever reason.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was chgobr also in the picture?

(ok I’m leaving)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 31, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was the shot from a guy laying on the floor

There was a shot of Gordon and Rondo and Gordon looked shorter

by BigWay on Nov 1, 2008 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Noah's 2nd 3 second call.

Just saying.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

30 Minutes into the game.

And only one player with more than one field goal made. Terrible shooting night.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I almost made a fanpost about Tyrus

And how he shot something less than 40% in the pre-season, and whether we should be concerned about that going into the year. How do we feel about that?

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As long as its not Thabo or Gray.

I think its okay here.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have no problem with him shooting jumpers

but after he misses a few he either has to pass or drive

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

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by CubsClapp on Oct 31, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose on the bench looks like he is pissed.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's like

they saw the bad start so now everyone is trying to win the game by themselves.

by CJ Bulls on Oct 31, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They need Rose out there.

I am really pissed the refs have him benched.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rookie calls.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the stupidest thing i've ever heard of

ref the damn game who cares if its a rookie or an all-star, call the game correctly

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure...

In a perfect world, but this is the NBA… Where blatant favoratism happens.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NBA is a product...

If they called EVERY foul we’d never get to see much basketball happen. I’m not condoning it, but it happens… A LOT.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Consistant to the game would be nice.

If you are calling a certain foul on one team you better call it when the other does the same thing. That is not what is happening tonight. It is one thing not to call a certain foul in a game and let them be aggressive or whatnot. It is when one team gets away with it and the other doesn’t that it starts getting crazy.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

But one reason that coaches like veterans is because they know what kind of fouls they can get away with (IE: when the Ref’s aren’t looking, or when the situation doesn’t call for a make up call on a tickey-tack play).

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree - put him back out there

What does foul trouble matter when you down 30?

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by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get the feeling this might happen alot this year...

Maybe VDN is trying to teach him something.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose is playing fine.

It is the rest of the team that have gotten used to being and acting like losers. Unless his lesson is “don’t be mopey like these guys” I don’t know what he is going to learn from the bench.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will say this...

When they call one on Rose he takes it like a man… Now if only Kirk and Noce can learn that too.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope that is the case

From VDN post-game comments, its sounds like he does not have a clue. 18ft jumpers is not something I would want Tyrus to do regularly.

by BiNgO on Oct 31, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

kirk needs to shoot more

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't somebody saying that Ray Allen was just as vacant as Thabo tonight?

Here’s the difference, Ray Allen will turn it on when he needs to.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bench Kirk

That’s a guy who doesn’t want to be out there. 2nd game of the season and he’s already quit.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really hate how they get that way.

They need to ignore the scoreboard and make their plays. Or sit down. Someone needs to donate some of their fouls to Rose so he can play.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is the main offender

but Tyrus, Deng and Gordon all do it to a certain degree. You just have to play through it.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am surprised they only have 65.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looked like pierce

took a jab at him as he walked past.

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

they have made a couple really late calls in this game.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garnett with a cheap shot.

No surprise really.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There ya go, take it strong to the hoop.

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by CubsClapp on Oct 31, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh THANK GOD

He got fouled. otherwise…he woulda missed.

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus needs ot learn to finish.

1-15 is unacceptable.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Like that.

I like how he keeps going after it…that is what a young player needs to do.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is alot he needs to learn...

And so little time to do it.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not unacceptable this year

We aren’t winning a championship. Give him a chance to work out the kinks for the first time in his NBA career.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seams everyone needs

We’re having a horrible night. Not just him, bu everyone except rose

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice! Keep taking it strong.

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by CubsClapp on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf tyrus what was that

and…how did it go in??

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Tyrus, yes!

Tyrus, Rose, Gordon, Noah showing life tonight, even if everything isn’t going in.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, great

now just put the one OTHER guy who showed life, ROSE, back in!!

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YEAH KIRK

who said kirk stopped caring?? taking a charge on GARNETT??

Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."

by BigBenign on Oct 31, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In this game

there was a 90% chance that would have backfired on him though. Damn refs.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Gray, master of

the preseason 4th quarter comebacks. You just watch.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish they'd realize

that while it will be very hard to beat the Celtics even on the best of days they can still make plays and look like NBA basketball players while losing. Lots of teams will lose to the Celtics. They won’t all look like us doing it though.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ding ding ding

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Celtics D...

While it might seem like the ref’s won’t call anything on them, it can’t be denied that these guys know how to help eachother out.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They are not the champs for nothing.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

That is what Tyrus needs to do when he gets the ball at the top of the key.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

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by CubsClapp on Oct 31, 2008 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he needs to finish

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One step at a time.

And at least the Celtics get a foul. Bonus for everyone.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good news!

Tyrus almost in double digits!

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bad news

deng shooting .125 with 6 points

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

The only guy playing bad tonight is TT. You’re not allowed to criticize anyone else.

Thanks.

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You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I heard Tyrus was playing bad tonight. Noes!

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon with a terrible shot.

Falling out of bounds throws the ball at the hoop.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like they are talking to Rose on the bench.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope they send him in. And let him take over the game.

For what it is worth now.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

“OK Derrick, we’ve worked hard to get you into position to take over this game and lead us back to victory!”

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silver lining

another shitty night for Beasley. So at least we got that completely, amazingly right.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he played ok

17 ptss 9 rebs 0 TOs in less than 30 minutes, thats decent

by CJOliveira on Oct 31, 2008 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Down 16

End of 3rd quarter – Boston may start with their reserves. Bring in Pooh and let’s see if we can make a run!

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have them right where we want them.

Lured them into a sense of safety by sucking the entire game and then BAM. Unleash the Pooh.

>:[ ]

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Unleash the Pooh"

comment of the night!

B.J. for three.... KABOOM!

by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we were the Mavericks, we'd have them right where we want them

A little political humor for y’all.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, give me some love - that was funny!

Anyone here follow anything other than sports? :)

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You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like reading, British tv, and long walks on the beach.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 3rd was much better.

We actually outscored them by 2, doubled the assist total for the game, and looked like we’re still alive.

We needed things to go our way to compete tonight – and shooting around 25% is not things going our way.

Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!

by wjb1492 on Oct 31, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, let's get this down to a 10 point game

And then just play…we can’t play any worse than this, not by a longshot. The good news is that this is the best team in the league and we’re still in the game. I’m sure the Celts starters will be sitting for the first few minutes of the 4th—-if so, let’s get a run. We just need ONE RUN. Just a little 8-0 run or something and we’re in a good spot. It’s the NBA, everybody makes a run

by kwintz on Oct 31, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

love the optimism

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nocioni is +7 through 3.

Maybe he should play the entire 4th quarter. Okay, I kid.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at least Doris Burke wore a nice halloween mask

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

She's looking rough tonight.

That’s cold, though. ;)

Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!

by wjb1492 on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No comment.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

alright vdn

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Put rose in!

Who cares if he fouls out

by materd on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

Pretty soon the Celtic scrubs will be out there, and what’s the point of playing him then?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Rose?

Fuck VDN, put him in

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thank u ben gordon

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi Vinny

This is how you kill your own momentum.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thomas can't even finish an alley oop

yuck.

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by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a tough pass to handle.

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by CubsClapp on Oct 31, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least he makes his free throws.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose was our only hope

This is so fucking stupid

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

kirk needs to shoot more

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More importantly

it was Jeff Van Gundy.

Scotter made that point as well, that Noce is better as a 4. I have a “thing” about not liking non-rebounding bigs. I’m automatically opposed to a guy with a rebound rate of like 10 playing power forward, but I’m probably wrong here.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it just depends on the guys around him.

With, say, Tyson Chandler or AD at center and Deng at the 3, it was workable because those guys were awesome rebounders.

With most other sets of guys it’s a problem.

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus...

Why is Rose still sitting?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No one does, i think

Neither VDN…

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Question of the Night.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Rose is healthy

It’s completely fucking indefensible that he’s not played more.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every time they show him on the bench

he looks healthy, able, and very pissed.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

laughable

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another crap call

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the Celtics get a lot of charge calls

they are great at sliding in after the pass or shot has already been made. That really shouldn’t be a foul but the refs call it like that all the time.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

VDN is waiting for the bulls to make a run and get it down to 10 and then put Rose in but yeah nt going to happen

by materd on Oct 31, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's wrong

Put Rose now and we’ll make a run…

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose will at least make a run.

This might sound bad, but I want Rose’s stats to at least look nice. Can’t do even that from the bench.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

new starting line-up

Noah
Thomas
Deng
Gordon
Rose

We need Noah’s toughness and Goron’s shooting to start the game. Matt’s worst fears were realized, this game was over in the first 6 to 8 minutes.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Will say this...

Our defense was absolutely atrocious to start the game…no one was rotating quickly, Rondo was blowing by Rose with no help…there is no excuse for defense to be off…

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose is in.

Had foul problems?!?

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ref problems, more like it.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deng with a very solid 2-10 shooting in 30 minutes so far.

And, as far as I can tell, hasn’t been mentioned in a single post so far in the game threads. That’s messed up.

by Sports2 on Oct 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's because he's playing well

Only Tyrus is playing poorly. Apparently you’re watching a different game from everyone else.

:)

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You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i mentioned it above

Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.

-- Scottie Pippen

by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell no,

But after having 49 wins two years ago, this is absolutely unacceptable.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody can hit a shot

and they are getting no calls. It has been a bad game, buts its also against the best team in the NBA. Chill out.

by JeffD on Oct 31, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention...

These are the NBA champs we are playing.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait...

You said exactly that…I am blind with rage right now.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are losing to the champs.

That is somewhat expected for a team like us. Acting like losers isn’t acceptable. I don’t agree with a lot of the coaching tonight, but the players themselves need to not get mopey and just run their plays. This is a lingering problem from last year. They need to snap out of it and be fighters like they were two years ago. Two years ago they were watchable even when losing. Not now.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too many slumped shoulders

and when they get behind like this, they stop playing team D, and start going one on one. VDN needs to identify who is doing it, and put his foot down.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are all acting weak as hell, other

than Rose this a veteran team and they need to be held to higher standards.

by Juiceboxjerry on Oct 31, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Bulls are a veteran team...

Then what are the Celtics? Immortal?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With actual vets...

Coming off a championship.

I’m not apoligizing for our play (God knows I want to punch children right now), but I won’t feel bad because we are getting rolled by a far superior team on their home floor.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can that fat ass Davis...

Be crying for a flagrant? What a pussy.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Have they asked you to take your mask of

only to find out that is your “watching the Bulls suck face”? You will be the scary house forever.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor noch

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Oct 31, 2008 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The refs suck!

They’re being tendentious

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they were worst than that ;)

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose is so damn quick...

So much better for our team than Beasley.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jinxed him.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bulls today:

71 shots, 7 assists. Rose with 0

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus he is the only one that can drive...

And when he does, the Celtics are too slow to keep up with him. It’s the only effective offense we have had.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its hard for Rose to get assists

when nobody else can hit a shot

by JeffD on Oct 31, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

I am pissed we are losing in this way but the Rose fan in me is pissed his stats are going to look horrible tonight with little fault of his own.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please make it to 70.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There you go....

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You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least running into a Big Baby screen

is like running into a big pillow.

by JeffD on Oct 31, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas with a block!

And then a karate kick or something. Odd…

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's a Cobra Kai

For Halloween.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben with the three!

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just ten more of those and we'll be in the game.

Five for Noc and five for Ben. Not hard…

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just now or...

when did that happen? I kinda faded out there when Rose was on the bench.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't remember exactly when

but Noc 6 fouls in 6 minutes tonight.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember

the slimmed-down Paul Pierce running right by Noce like he wasn’t even there a couple of times, and Noce reaching for fouls.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Without any more 3pts shooters

Gordon will have to make all ten shots to get us back into the game!

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D-Rose

Will get old-fashioned three-point plays.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember a game

where so few 3 pointers were made from both sides. And as I type this, there’s two more.

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Role acceptance...

First smart thing Van Gundy has said all night.

The Bulls need to figure some things out.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But Stromile Swift...

He could be.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a joke by the way...

Dear God, please let the kids ring my doorbell again!

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gray is a joke!

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well duh...

So why aren’t you laughing?

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly???

I don’t know… Maybe it’s because of this game. I can’t believle I gave up some more hours of sleep to watch only this half… :s

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Layup by Thabo.

Didn’t realize he was in the game. I think Gray might have been blocking my view or something.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he sucks

but I love Thabo

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there is like, oh, three of us watching the game.

I am just hoping Rose does something awesome to make it worth it.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much.

"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make it to 80!

So my coworkers who only look at the final score to tease me on Monday won’t know how really bad it was.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rose drives...

Noah follows and tips it in…

Role acceptance.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thabo can't dribble,

but he did make a jumper.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Thabo...

Give that to Noah for the dunk.

Role acceptance.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Most. Depresssing. game.this year.

Damn I’m glad the beer helped. Keep ur head up folks

"You’re caught up in basketball. Get caught up in life" - Starbury "The Great"

by Belize on Oct 31, 2008 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think i'll survive

i mean, it is only the 2nd game of the year.

by DangerMouse on Oct 31, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To 80! Please!

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Noah's got 12 boards

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You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas

by Jivas on Oct 31, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good night all...

Happy Halloween.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

Not a 20 point blow out!

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, we got that out of the way.

Forever on film in the locker room as how not to lose a game.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Free Throw Shooting.

The one positive from the Bulls tonight. The guys made their free throws. Now if they could make their other shots…or stop the other team from making theirs.

"The whole leverage thing, it's a difficult thing to gauge" -Paxson

by Dionysus2.0 on Oct 31, 2008 9:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And can we mostly agree

that everyone but Rose sucked tonight so we don’t have a zillion posts tomorrow about each player and how they sucked worse or something? The suck was pretty much evenly spread.

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by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Noah rebounded well and showed a lot of energy

So, I think he didn’t played so bad either

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VDN

 What does he do exactly, anyway?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 31, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a few observations

1. we were bad, and certainly didn’t need the help from the refs to only make it worse. the way we were playing, we should have lost by 40 though.

2. i hate when we can’t even get credit for doing something good. when we started to bounce back a little, they were saying how it was the celtics being lax.

3. mark jackson shows why he didn’t get any coaching job by saying our best lineup would be rose, gordon, hinrich.

4. have they never watched a celtics game before? they were acting like the scalabrine chanting was a surprise…

by Jaina on Oct 31, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Some encouraging things from this game

1. VDN left Tyrus in for 29 meaningful (as meaningful as could be in this game) minutes, even on 2/17 shooting. No way does Skiles or Boylan ever do this. Big props to VDN for this.

2. Noah with 13 boards in 23 minutes. He plays better with Rose than Gooden does.

3. Rose Rose Rose. He had three layups over Garnett. The Celtics are the toughest test he’ll face, and he was getting to the hole easier than Kobe was in the Finals last year.

Overall, not so bad. This won’t be the only time we get completely blown out this year, but I was happy to see us bounce back in the 3rd quarter and end with some spirit. (Our three captains though… egads.)

by YaoPau on Oct 31, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rose and Joakim

I wish they both play 30 min a night.

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing about Rose...

I’m not sure this will be the toughest team he’ll face this year.

While Rondo is definitely a good defender, their interior looked really slow (albeit huge) to keep up with Rose. While the Celtics are a good help D team, they seemed to be tailor made to exploit by the first step dribble drives of Rose.

Just my observation.

Don't call me doughboy!

by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

rose was great. not his fault he only had 1 assist… we didn’t even shoot 30% for the game.

i’m glad vdn stuck it out with tyrus, but they should really have pulled him aside for some pointers, at least, because he needed another strategy when his jumpers weren’t falling.

obviously i chalked this up as a loss before the game started, but i am pleased we did manage to pull it together at least a little. i can’t believe noc fouled out though… that was pretty awful.

by Jaina on Oct 31, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Being taken out for instruction and put in soon after would have been preferable. That is still different than under Skiles where not only would you never see the light of day you would not get instruction either. They kept him out there but it could have been better if they sat him down and talk to him for a minute so he could get his head on straight and go back out with a mission.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Oct 31, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Noah should start

he was the only guy in there fighting. Gooden quit, and he quit early. I want nothing to do with him.

Luol: he wanted nothing to do with this game.

Rose played with heart. There were a lot of calls he didn’t get that he should’ve gotten. But that’s the best on ball defender he’s going to face, and the biggest interior. 28 minutes isn’t enough.

I’m glad we’ve got Memphis at home tommorrow. Big chance to bounce back. Now we see if VDN’s got anything in him as a coach.

I’m not hopeful.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 31, 2008 10:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bah

poster’s regret. I’m still hopeful. :)

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 31, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not as if we are goin anywhere this season

Gooden will not be back so we might as well let Noah play as much as Tyrus.

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agreed

Even though thinking that Gooden is not a bad player, at C he’ s awful. Noah is way better than him at that position…

Gooden should only play when TT is on the bench. The problem is that Gray showed for the 10000000000000 time that he doesn’t have what is need to backup Noah. So, until we find another big, we’ll have to play Gooden at that position

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Oct 31, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point;

Drew isn’t and shouldn’t be in our plans. There’s no reason not to give the majority of the minutes to Noah at this point.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Oct 31, 2008 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if he's doing the Boylan thing

Trying to win as much as possible whilst still here

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

and that would officially bring what VDN brings to the table to…nada. His only – only - benefit is that he can give the young players run because he’s young and isn’t struggling for a contract.

I guess will find out if the Boylan thing is in effect when Larry Hughes comes back.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Badly Constructed Team

The Bulls are a badly constructed team, obviously from what have been said since last year and during the preseason. However, the Celtics game shows how bad this team is assembled. The Bulls key assets aren’t good enough to make a lost respectable. Nevertheless, what is so pathetic about this club is that they can’t even make up ground against good teams 2 units.

Paxson draft picks over the years seemed to be grade ‘A’ selections, but after terrible trades that resulted to failures to balance out this team. Paxson job should be in jeopardy this year, if the Bulls post another losing season. Gordon, Hinrich, or Thabo can beat 2nd and 3rd rate players like Rondo, Allen, or House. What role does Joke’hem Noah play on the Bulls? What improvement has he made since last year? Tyrus Thomas should come off the bench until he can show consistency with minutes earned. Thomas and Noah was Paxson worst draft choice, because they were drafted because of speculated potential and not for what they could do for a team – now- that was once on the edge of turning the corner to respectability. Paxson should have kept LaMarcus Aldridge. Deng, I like his humanitarian efforts, but unless he starts showing why he deserves his contract, Paxson signing him to almost $70 million will be as boneheaded as signing Wallace. Deng is too slow to cut to the bucket or breakdown his guy off the dribble. He was more effective at cutting in Skies offense. If his shot isn’t falling, he’s another reserve player. I thought Deng had developed some post moves? Gooden? He is a 3rd rated power forward that should be trade bait.

The Bulls core unit over the previous year, not anymore, does not play like player in the 4th and 5th season. The problem is not that this squad needs super star player. It is the fact these pieces never meshed. They’re all are one-dimensional jump shooters with no other skill to use, when their shot is not falling. Rose is a talent that can lead this team, but has no help. Paxson needs to blow up this team now or face due consequence. I had the confidence that Paxson contained the basketball acumen to make the necessary trade to help this team. But it might be better to fire him now and bring in a more competent GM.

by Soloistic on Oct 31, 2008 10:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why was VDN hired in the first place? Please Tell me.

No way would I be able to stay in a game as a coach with my players playing the way the Bulls played tonight. No enthusiasm whatsoever. You know he didn’t rip them a new one at half for not giving any effort whatsoever. None. If i had a player (especially a young one) who missed a shot and did not hustle back they simply would not be back in the game. I would not have lasted 3 quarters let alone all game tonight.

Somebody send Tyrus Thomas the memo to stop shooting the ball. I could shoot what he shot with my eyes closed. Not exaggerating. The Bulls are not going to win anything this year if VDN dosen’t get them ready to play games. If you have a team and cannot get them ready to play the NBA Champions then you did not do your job as a coach. The Bulls were simply not ready to play tonight.

Sure the team is poorly constructed. There’s not much you can do without a low post presence to throw the ball to. However, if the roles were reveresed tonight and the Celtics gave as much effort as the Bulls and the Bulls gave as much effot as the Celtics did, the Bulls would have won. With a team as small as the Bulls are you are going to win by playing tough defense, running the ball, and limiting the turnovers and the Bulls did neither. If this is what the rest of the year is going to look like we are in for a long season.

Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.

by Bricks and Ivy on Oct 31, 2008 10:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The need games like this

To show Paxson who stays and who goes.

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know yet

We’re only two games in but I know I want Rose, Deng, Thomas and Noah to stay

by Option27 on Oct 31, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll tell you

Rose, Tyrus, Deng, Noah – STAY

Hughes, Gray, Nichols, Noce, Gooden, Thabo, Ruffin and Simmons – GO

Gordon – I fear is going to walk away after this season, so, maybe, it’s not so bad ideia to trade him

Hinrich – I liked the way he played against the Bucks, but he’s one of our best trade baits. So, if we could get something good in return, I wouldn’t mind to trade him

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Nov 1, 2008 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

??

You can’t tell who stays and who needs to go after this game?

Ben was looking for his own stat. Deng didn’t care. Hinrich look disinterested and jealous at Rose.

These guys, from last year’s games, I could tell that they no longer have the fire, the intangibles they had years ago but everything was working for them. The minute REAL pressure sets in, then they’re toast and done.

It’s exactly how we lost to Washington in the playoffs, how we lost to Miami (could have taken them to game 7), it’s just beyond frustrating.

Now a superstar-caliber player comes in, and it seems like that they can’t get used to it. How many more chances do they need?

There is a huge, distinct difference between Rose, Thomas, Nocioni, Noah….and those guys. Those other guys simply don’t care.

Rose does care.

WHy the ball isn’t in his hands 90% of the time is BEYOND ME.

Why Rose doesn’t look for his shot until the team is down by 15 is BEYOND ME.

Vinny may have something to do with that. I say forget about team basketball right now, you wanna be competitive. Rose needs to score, period. And he needs to score A LOT.

by Half-Life on Oct 31, 2008 11:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!

Kirk jealous of rose. LOL!!

by sue369 on Nov 1, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that's just dumb

Kirk did have some bad body language because of some awful officiating, but the whole team was in a last season funk.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see the game

and now after reading all of this I’m glad I didn’t.

by sue369 on Nov 1, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is that funny?

If a 20 year-old took your job and was doing it better, faster, and more efficient, you wouldn’t be jealous? I know you’re not much of a Bulls fan, sue, but remember that most of us here actually are. Hinrich, simply, isn’t as good as Rose.

by NittanyCub on Nov 1, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did I say he was?

Where has Kirk ever shown that he is jealous? I think he has handled himself and treated Derrick very respectfully. This jealousy crap is just that…crap.

by sue369 on Nov 1, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a pretty ridiculous question, really.

There’s no real way to know if he’s jealous or not, considering it’s a feeling and not a statistic. Anyone can sound respectful to the media. The only thing I tried to say is that someone would generally be jealous if a younger, better, version of themselves took over their role. He may or may not be; I don’t know, and neither do you.

by NittanyCub on Nov 1, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said

Kirk was as good as Derrick did I? That’s what I was asking you. You are correct that none of us know including Half-Life above who said Kirk looked jealous of Rose when Kirk has done nothing to indicate or show jealousy of Derrick.

by sue369 on Nov 1, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all he said was

he looked jealous… that was just his opinion. then you laughed at him, which wasn’t really an appropriate response.

by Jaina on Nov 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you acted like it was ludicrous

that someone could possibly think kirk looked jealous (an opinion to begin with, and not an outrageous one, given rose took kirk’s job).

no one knows whether he is jealous or not, including you, which is why it was unreasonable for you to laugh like that. you could have disagreed in a much more polite way, and say something like, i don’t think kirk is jealous, nothing he’s done so far has indicated such a thing. instead, you laughed and looked down on someone simply sharing their opinion.

by Jaina on Nov 1, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did find it funny.

It just gets old that most assume that Kirk is pissed or jealous when he hasn’t shown that at all. If he is either of those he’s being very professional about it. I never said I knew how he felt.

by sue369 on Nov 1, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's obnoxious.

even if you found it funny, you didn’t need to be like “Kirk, jealous of Rose! LOL!!!!” give me a break.

in fact, i haven’t actually seen too much of that sentiment (that kirk is pissed/jealous) around here. i know you didn’t say you knew how he felt, but you practically acted like it. there are ways to be polite about disagreeing with someone’s opinion, and you just weren’t. i’m tired of people getting jumped on around here for sharing anything that could possibly offend one of the older regulars around here. i’ve been around this site long enough too and i don’t treat people that way.

by Jaina on Nov 1, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh good grief.

I found it funny. I guess we disagree.

by sue369 on Nov 1, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

get off Sue's case

she thought it was a ridiculous comment, she has every right to say so. Half-life can defend him or herself.

There is really no basis for saying Kirk is jealous of Rose. You can argue that he is pissed by playing time or that his body language sucks but saying he is jealous because Rose took his job is kind of ridiculous. You can argue just as well that Kirk is pissed that Sefo is starting ahead of him. This isn’t the first time Kirk has been asked to play minutes at the 2, but it is the first time he hasn’t been a starter.

by DangerMouse on Nov 1, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

this guy was clearly interpreting kirk’s body language. not anything he said. his body language can be against what he’s been saying in the press, as obviously he’s not going to act all bitter and whatnot unless he really wanted to screw himself over.

by Jaina on Nov 1, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interpreting his body language

in a game when we were playing horrible? Maybe Tyrus looked mopey because he was jealous of Rose too. After all, Rose finishes at the basket and Tyrus doesn’t. Tyrus is threatened! Maybe it wasn’t the fact they were all sucking but the fact Rose is so awesome! Everyone on the team is jealous of Rose! See, you can take it any direction you want to. It is much simpler to take Hinrich at his word and assume that any of his behavior is based on the fact we were losing the game and he wasn’t play very well and not that is is obsessed with Rose.

When we are winning a game Kirk looks just as pleased as everyone else. Wouldn’t he continue to be jealous looking if it was all about Rose?

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever

it’s not even my fucking interpretation! i’m just defending someone else’s right to an opinion! frankly, i don’t care whether kirk is jealous, my only point was that no, kirk hasn’t said anything to indicate he is jealous, but the poster said nothing about what he said, only what he was acting like.

by Jaina on Nov 1, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Golly

I am going to start a new “opinion” now that Thomas is jealous that Rose can finish in the paint while he can’t and is getting preferential treatment as a rookie by the team while Thomas did not and more press time despite the fact Thomas thinks he is the best on the team. I can tell all of this by the way he carries himself in a game despite the fact he never has outright said any of it. It makes perfect sense, doesn’t it? And because it is my new opinion based on some visual tip-offs of him seeming depressed and upset in a game we lost badly it is near fact and I am going to bring it up every game and expect people not to point out how ridiculous it is because every opinion is as valid as the next. Especially mine since I am an expert on body language and can see the undercurrent of tension between Thomas and Rose.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

you are funny but wrong. It is clear to me that the real source of jealousy on the team is VDN, who is jealous of Rose because Rose has broad shoulders while VDN’s shoulders are slim and look kind of ridiculous in his oversized suits. His jealousy manifests itself by not playing Rose at the start of the 4th, and slumping his shoulders when the team is down by 20.

This is my opinion, and no one may question it!

by DangerMouse on Nov 1, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was picking up

a vibe between VDN and Gooden. Gooden has been getting way more press about his beard than VDN has about his hair products. They can’t even stand next to each other in a huddle and once Gooden completely blew VDN off and did not high five him when he went to the bench even though he did give the guys on either side of VDN high fives and Benny the Bull ran over got one up high and one down low as well.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh please.

at least kirk being jealous of rose come from some logical place, even if it is unsubstantiated.

there’s unlikely, and then there’s just ridiculous.

i never said i agreed, anyway, but the idea could make sense. i couldn’t care less whether hinrich is jealous of rose, but the notion isn’t unreasonable.

by Jaina on Nov 1, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're talking semantics now.

I said that Rose is better than Hinrich to explain if Hinrich would have jealousy over him; which is what Half-Life’s opinion is. Then you went off into a tangent, arguing if you ever said that Hinrich was better than Rose.

Well, no, you didnt, but laughing at someone who has a valid opinion because he’s making fun of your favorite bench player is pretty dumb.

by NittanyCub on Nov 1, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could you explain why

Kirk looks perfectly pleased when we won against the Bucks even though Rose started over him there too? Could his behavior just as easily be explained by being upset at simply losing a game rather than some big Rose obsession?

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who says I'm obsessing over Rose?

I’m not even saying that Hinrich is holding some vendetta over Rose; look at what I wrote. I just think it was ludicrous to blast Half-Life over his subjective reasoning (not valid opinion, as I said. wrong choice of words) when no one can really accept or deny what Hinrich is feeling.

by NittanyCub on Nov 1, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The burden of proof

is on the accuser I am afraid. At least in this country. And the proof against Kirk is membrane thin at best in this case. Just because Kirk can’t pop on here to deny allegations doesn’t mean the case against him is valid since “no one can really accept or deny what Hinrich is feeling”. It is circular reasoning. I can accuse any player of any jealousy and unsportsmanlike behavior then and all I’d need in evidence is slumped shoulder and lack of eye contact or something paired with my interpretation and wait around here for him to personally deny it. Plenty of basketball players say things officially that incriminate them. Kobe has said crap about his team and backed that up with looking like a jerk on the floor too. Kirk has consistently said he’s trying to work with his new position on the team and reports have backed that up adding in the fact he talks to Rose and tries to help him.

The word obsessed was in reference to Kirk towards Rose. Nothing to do with any poster here. I said Kirk’s behavior could easily be related to how bad the game was going. Not because of any implied obsession on his part about Rose starting over him etc.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is the opinion valid

when it is not backed up by any evidence?

by DangerMouse on Nov 1, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Granted, the shooting was atrocious...

…but D-Rose only had 1 assist? One assist? From your starting point guard? Yeesh.

by PaxsonForThree! on Nov 1, 2008 12:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um, you answered your own question

When your teammates make only 7 FGs through almost 2 quarters of play, how do you get assists?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we've gotten to the point people are "drunk posting" or something.

We need to do what Gmail did and have people complete a simple math problem before posting. It would weed stuff like that out. That being said, the next time the Bulls play the Celtics I am going to be intoxicated. Possibly before the first quarter is out.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only could they not make a shot

but most of the time they fumbled away perfectly good passes from Rose before they even had the chance to chuck up a brick, what a bunch of bums. Rose might petition the NCAA to return to Memphis if this keeps up.

by BigWay on Nov 1, 2008 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is where watching the game trumps reading the box score

because you’d already know the answer to that question. Who generally would be D Rose’s main assist targets? And were those players not missing nearly every shot, even while open?

by messwiththebull on Nov 1, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, did everyone expect 82-0 or something?

The stuff people are writing is ridiculous, like they haven’t seen the Bulls play since the Miami Heat series in 2007. Thomas is a frustrating player because he has games like this (even for a blatant Tyrus apologist like me he was abysmal.) However, unlike in previous years one bad game will not warrant a benching. He’s still the best option for the 4 spot, and frankly it’s up to the coaching staff to teach Tyrus when to shoot, when to drive, and when to just calm the hell down. He’s like a child eager to please everyone.

I hope this game shows Vinny how foolish it was to start Thabo. What did his defensive awesomeness prevent? The Bulls still suck hardcore at making proper rotations, and basically didn’t give a crap on that end until the game was long over. I’m also sick of Gooden as the starting center. Noah is by far our best defensive big man (and frankly still the only one who puts forth the most effort), and he is our best big man who can set screens. Anyone else noticing this? Noah and Rose/Kirk have a very good feel for each other where he can get the ball running into the paint with at least a good shot of drawing a foul.

Rose was impressive, the only Bull driving into the lane with purpose, and when he took it right at KG a few times I got excited. Had the Bulls not shot like a bunch of asswipes, he would have had far more than 1 assist. Does Paxson now see why our roster is so messed up?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for noticing Noah

nobody else apparently has, including VDN. Gooden should never play another minute at center, but I think that he is starting at center because VDN is under orders to start Thomas at the 4, which by rights should be Goodens job.

I am also dissappointed by Thabo’s start, maybe we should have switched him over to Peirce since Deng looked like Greg Oden trying to guard him. I like Thabo, but he is not playing the way he did at the end of last season when he finally got some regular run due to injuries. I have always had a suspicion that he might be a better fit at the 3. Since Nocioni is as Van Gundy noted a better fit as a backup 4 maybe we rotate each of them up one position. This would work out great if we could get rid of Gooden and Hughes for a center or a power forward.

by BigWay on Nov 1, 2008 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Uhm

I’ve been saying Noah should start and to hell with Gooden for quite some time…

by BAB-Bass on Nov 1, 2008 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well the people with actual power haven't noticed or don't seem to care

That Gooden isn’t a center and never will be unless the other team goes small.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're saying I don't have actual power?? :O

:P

Yeah, we should send them a memo, then… ;)

by BAB-Bass on Nov 1, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having Gooden is not a problem...

VDN just needs to put Gooden on the bench and play him only when Tyrus needs to rest or when he’s playing very bad, like last night. Nothing more.

I think the problem is that we don’t have another big man to be a backup of Noah. After all, we don’t have so much deph as we thought, because Gray is not the answer at 5…

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Nov 1, 2008 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Noah needs to start, I agree. The trouble is, I don’t know if he and Thomas work well together. They’re both so light…so prone to stupid mistakes…but hey, I don’t see Carlos Boozer sitting on that bench. So why not?

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think they work way better than Tyrus and Gooden

Noah is a very underrated passer for a big man, a better 1-on-1 defender than Gooden (simply because he tries and Gooden just loafs), and at least a better defensive rebounder. Yeah, they may get pushed around but Gooden is no Kendrick Perkins.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been saying for awhile now

that I’d really like to see Noah and Gooden for a period. Good mix of defense and offensive rebounding (Noah) with offense and defensive rebounding (Gooden). But hey, I’d try your mix too. The point is, let’s see. Let’s find out by trying.

The only thing I can verify is that Gooden isn’t a center.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only 2 positives from this game

Obviously Rose can get to the rim anytime that he wants to and finish most of the time with either hand.

Noah is the only guy who brings any energy to the game. When he is in the game every rebound is in play, when he is out we lose the rebounding battle against anybody. Noah should play 48 minutes every night, and Gooden should never play a single minute at center. O.K. Noah isn’t Wilt Chamberlain, who actually averaged slightly over 48 minutes per game for an entire season. But, at least he cares and tries, when he is in the game he creates havoc, gets his hand on nearly every ball coming off the rim at either end, if his teamates hustled as much as he did instead of letting him play 1 on 3 or 4 we would come up with many of the balls that he keeps in play that he can’t coral by himself.

Don’t know why VDN apparently is not a fan, maybe Noah said something about his mother.

Did anyone notice if Deng played tonight. I couldn’t tell who that guy was trying to guard Peirce, he was buried in Perices dust all night. It’s not all bad Deng will only be making over$14 million in 2012, what a deal. He might actually be as useless on defense as Gordon.

As I posted from the instant that we won the lottery, we should have traded Deng and anyone and everything else(Hinrich, Gooden, Gordon, Nocioni) to Miami for the second pick and taken Beasely after we took Rose. Especially since Beasely is looking like a 3 and not the low post threat that most mistakenly thought that he was. I think that before the draft Miami would have made a Deng based trade, of course according to Paxson Deng as a future HOFamer is untouchable.

It is already obvious that this season will be about watching to see Rose and for me Noah(he is just my kind of player), while I still pray that Thomas might get his head out of his ass and become a player. I can’t wait for the rest of the overpaid garbage to get traded. However, if this keeps up these guys won’t be any more tradable than Hughes is.

As they say,it’s only one game, and it was against the world champs, but this looks like a repeat of last season, and VDN looks as useless as BoneHead Boylan.

by BigWay on Nov 1, 2008 1:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree about packaging a bunch of players,

Deng included, but not for Beasley.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The biggest negative of this game: Larry Hughes

The coaches can look at this and say “look, we’ll be better with him back in the lineup”.

And the way Kirk, Ben and Thabo played, I can’t really even disagree.

by Sports2 on Nov 1, 2008 7:46 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

We have not competed with Boston for over a year.

Tonight hopefully will be better. For me this year is about finding a trade for the ever evasive, potential inside presence. We were killed by Boston’s scoring in the paint. Noah could not contain Boston’s inside dominance. I thought Gray did the best job getting rebounds and blocking shots. Thank God there is a game tonight.

by chgobr on Nov 1, 2008 8:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

aldridge looks real good right now

It aint easy bein' Piatkowski

by Yibs on Nov 1, 2008 8:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

9 rebounds and 3 3-PTA

still should have kept him as the pick.

by messwiththebull on Nov 1, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup;

LMA isn’t a perfect player, but his skills fit our needs better than does Tyrus. That’s hindsight to an extent, but it doesn’t take away the sting.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A jumpshooting power forward?

Granted, he makes his jumpshots, but seriously? He is developing his post game moreso, but the majority of his points game from perimeter shots.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We

don’t agree on LMA. I like his post game – hook shots and turnarounds seem to be his best moves. He’s got a nice perimeter shot, true, but I saw him take Duncan on the blocks a few times. I was impressed.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't deny he's a good player

But his post game needs work, just like any young player has to polish his game. He’s been improving steadily since he was drafted, which is what you expect from someone who gets consistent starting minutes without fear of being benched after a bad game.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true;

Tyrus’ growth was definitely hampered by Skiles and then Boylan. I’m not saying Ty can’t develop a post game. Physically, he’s capable, and he’s had success in the few times where he’s tried it.

VDN needs to communicate that Tyrus needs to go down low, especially when his shot isn’t falling. Last night was a perfect example. I like that VDN didn’t yank Ty even during that abominable performance. But I do think he has to give Thomas more direction when he’s having a game like that. And I think Tyrus has to listen.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was VDN thinking?

That Tyrus’ shot was gonna start falling?
Man, with the shot selection, inability to finish,
and questionable shots, he should have not played
so many minutes.

I ain’t giving up on TT, on the contrary, but, a coach has to
realize when a guy is hot, not hot, should play more less, on
a given night. TT will bounce back, but it clearly wasn’t his night.

Coaching staff more guilty than Thomas.
He tried. They did nothing to adjust to the situation
developing, just watched it implode.

Sadly, as crap as they were playing, it was still close at halftime,
at least not a blow-out and within reach. No adjustments, really, so
it did turn ugly.

Keep D-Rose. To the rest of the team, "Don’t buy houses in Chicago!

by rtblues on Nov 1, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

After years of talk of giving Tyrus the freedom

to play through mistakes and not get a quick leash, I can’t take a post saying to do the opposite.

What Tyrus should have done is adjust his strategy, stop taking jumpshots and drive to the hoop instead. His athleticism allows him to at least get fouled, and he’s shooting over 80% from the foul line in both the preseason and regular season. If he starts taking a better shot selection, he could have a great

Ben Gordon can keep shooting because he knows they are going to fall eventually. Tyrus doesn’t have that luxury.

by runningman on Nov 1, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he does have to improve

we’re starting to notice his mistakes that we may not have noticed during his short stints on the court over the past two years because we were so thrilled just to have him on the court. But let’s also acknowledge the possibilty that maybe Ty still doesn’t know how to play the NBA game and regardless of how productive our stats tell us he has been, maybe the guy does make a number of mistakes that end up costing the team that don’t necessarily get reflected in his personal statistics. That’s why you watch the games.

by messwiththebull on Nov 1, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

And that’s coaching, too. VDN needs to get in his ear and say “Look buddy, you’re outside shot isn’t falling, time to go inside.” Letting him make mistakes doesn’t mean you take a totally anything -goes attitude. You’ve still gotta coach.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Nov 1, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has to diversify his game

One time go inside, another time make a jumpshot…

That’s how he’s going to trick defenders… If he keeps making jumpshots or going inside, they will easily stop him, because they will now what to expect from him…

Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!

by bull83 on Nov 1, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough Game

Very painful yesterday…..but a few nice things and other comments

1) Noah should be our starter. While his offensive game still leaves a lot to be desired, his hustle and grit really started to annoy the Celtics and take them a bit out of their game in the second half.

2) Rose got a nice learning experience. I’m sure watching these tapes will help him.

3) The team played much harder int he 2nd half…..we just couldn’t buy a FG. We had a few nice looks, but nothing but clanks.

4) Tyrus Thomas couldn’t hit anything, while its great that he remained aggressive, hopefully they’ll observe the tapes and give him some pointers. He played like he was a kid playing against his idols—except for when he started elbowing his idol….I liked the aggressiveness. He had some awful shot attempts, but then there were at least 4-5 of them that he had been making of late. I hope he keeps his confidence. It was great that VDN and Harris helped him play through it. Hope he learns.

5) Thabo needs to sit….he’s just not there yet. Have him play a few minutes in the 2nd and 3rd gradually to build his confidence back. THe Bulls need some bang to start the game. Hinrich or Gordon need to start.

6) Deng had an off night. I’ll live with it, it’s a long season and early, so we’ll see. The problem though was that his defense was horrendous, really really bad.

7) Gray showed he has a place on the team. While he didn’t play great by any stretch, his D was more than adequate and he at least gave us a slightly different look.

8) Nocioni looked bad tonight. He was frustrated and played a frustrated game, and it showed. Hopefully this game isn’t a flashback to the frustrations of last year……

9) Gordon didn’t quite have it. I think having him start the game and give some pressure might get at least him or the other guys going. We have little offensive punch at the start of the game, and the guys looked a bit demoralized until VDN talked to them at halftime.

10) Lots of bad calls tonight. Lots of pushes, shoves, bumps, elbows, mostly favoring the Celtics (champion calls on home court). That didn’t help us recover from a dismal start, and they didn’t go away all game, but hopefully the coaching staff can show them the good things.

On the whole, I think the fact that we shot like 15% in the first half and somehow managed to only be down by 16 points, showed that we did do some things right…Our team is better than they showed, and the coaching staff has to buy in.

We picked up our aggressiveness and at least held our own with them in teh 2nd half, which is why it’s very important that we play our best players to start the game and sit Thabo until he’s ready.

by majoyenrac on Nov 1, 2008 9:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Noc was in full "do too much" mode.

Of course there was much to do, but when he tried to do it we get what happened last night. He is pretty much only going to be an asset when he is letting Rose create for him…but when we play as bad as last night I am afraid he won’t be able to contain himself to that. Then we get karate-chop fouling Noc. He was in and out so much I only remember the first two fouls. The others much have come rapid fire.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is it that Garnett get's away with that switch your pivot three times fade away?

I can’t stand Garnett, he’s an illiterate punk. The guy looks like a complete asshole out there. Good thing Noah didn’t back down from him, in fact I want to see Noah guard him every time from now on. Garnett, Allen, and Pierce I’d like to think these guys travel every friggin time they touch the back especially pierce mr. jumpston and a step for a lay up, or catch the the ball and jump to square up for a three. I am sorry but the NBA is TURNING INTO THE BULL SHIT LEAGUE, THEY CALL TICKY TACK SHIT, AND NEVER THE OBVIOUS BLATANT JR. HIGH LEVEL TRAVELS. IT’S GETTING WORSE EVERY YEAR, I MEAN THESE REFS ARE PATHETIC DO THEY KNOW WHAT TRAVELS ARE, AND DO THEY SAY WE’LL ONLY CALL 2 THIS GAME, ON THE BENCH PLAYERS NOT THE SUPERSTARS?

by armstrong2389 on Nov 1, 2008 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chill out dude.

Celtics are an excellent team ( fundamentally sound of on offense and defense). No need to hate on them just cause they out classed the Bulls.

by RogersPark Kris on Nov 1, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bulls got a lot of good treatment

back when we were champs to. Perhaps it is easier to understand why many fans of other teams hated the Bulls back then just like how we are hating the situation now. The Celtics are good enough to beat us without the help of the refs. The refs decided to do what they did and pretty much made the game ugly and unwatchable on their end.

Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.

by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think it's fair to say that garnett has a pretty consistent travelling violation on his back to the basket post moves.

i’m a fan of his game and have been for years, but he nearly always drags his pivot foot to an egregious level. he gets away with it because he’s a star, but i do think he’s pushing it even for a player of his reputation.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 1, 2008 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I notice a lot of guys

people consider good in the post doing that all the time. It drives me nuts. Part of the reason why I rarely have bigger guys like that as favorite players and teams is for that fact. If the only way they can be good down there is by traveling even if it isn’t called I can’t really respect them when they do that.

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by cranscape on Nov 1, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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