Open Game Thread #2: Bulls at Boston Celtics
Chicago Bulls at Boston Celtics, Oct 31, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
(Check out my A's to Celticsblog's Qs. Yes there's some Ben Gordon slurping. I'm sorry.)
I will start off, of course, with lineup whining. Same starters as opening night, says Vinny.
Not unexpected, but I really worry about opening tonight's game in a hole. The Celtics are a fantastic defensive team, a unit that will only be augmented by their home court and veteran reps with the refs. Some of those dribble-drives by Tyrus that were blocking calls on Tuesday could be charges tonight, and that changes a lot.
Another advantage for the Celtics D will be their ability to pack it in with the Bulls having no 3-point shooters in the lineup. If things start out poorly it'll be curious to see who Vinny goes with off the bench, and when.
The Bulls best chance tonight is to force turnovers (one of the very few weaknesses of Boston last season) and run run run. If their defense gets set, it's a problem.
Tonight's game is a 7pmCST, on ESPN as well as CSN. But thanks to Tom Dore's ouster, I no longer am forced to watch the national broadcast. Though if it's VanGundy team, I still may.
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We'll see tonight
exactly how quick Rose is. Rondo crabwalks faster than Ridnour sprints.
Rondo might be the best defensive PG in the NBA
I’m really excited about the matchup
Agreed
Rondo will be a great test for Rose tonight. Just like KG will be a great test for Tyrus tonight.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Bulls on paper should have no chance
A solid performance would be a good glimpse as to just how much this team has improved from last year.
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 31, 2008 6:51 PM CDT reply actions
Here's a question
Why would ANYONE with an option watch the Comcast SportsNet feed of this game rather than the ESPN feed? Can anyone think of a possible scenario where this is reasonable?
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Pierce looks a lot quicker
than last year. Nice job of rotating by Gooden.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
and catch the damn passes
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
.............and it starts to get ugly
I sure as hell hope we don’t get blown off the floor today.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
his passes are on the mark
they’re being dropped. Although the Tyrus one made little sense. He should have just gone up with it and forced Pierce to make a play
Yeah
the ESPN crew nailed it. there is no one in the lineup who can score and get his own shot.
by The90sBullsRevival on Oct 31, 2008 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
its why
pairing Rose with Thabo is a big mistake
by NormVanBeer on Oct 31, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
6 minutes later than he should have
But what’s the point of tooting the horn if no one with actual power will listen.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
This may not be pretty
Jesus, when they play a team like Boston you can see how far away this team is.
Very passive
they all look spooked.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
It appears early
that maybe Noah should have started instead of Tyrus and Gordon instead of Thabo.
and Tyrus misses another close shot
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Garnett is doing a great job of help defense when Rose brings
ball at the top of the key. TT has to do something to creat some drive space.
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 31, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions
There might not be a more fun thing to watch
Than Tyrus allowing a bigger man position in the lane, waiting for them to shoot, and then blocking their shot. Awesome.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
VDN's lineups are just baffling
Not that it would make a difference against Boston, but Thabo shouldn’t even be playing.
Thabo needs to go. Send him to some team that thinks they can make something out of him.
Or include him in a package to dump Noce’s contract.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions
but he has potential!!!!
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell was the BG iso from half court play showing up again.
Where’s the off the ball movement from the other night go. Kirk and Ben just stood in the corners and never moved. Yuck.
Everybody looks awful.
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rose is going to have to play 35+ minutes if we want to be competitive
though on the bright side, if vinny doesnt figure out a lineup that works by the end of this game, he never will.
Rose/Gordon needs to happen
that way Ray Allen has to guard one of them
they need to be A LOT crisper with their passes
6 TOs is just awful.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions
Holy fucking shit stop turning the ball over
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TRAVEL? He got pushed!
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Wow that was a BS call.
Noah got pushed.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions
NOOOOO
Gray is in the game. Aaron Gray = Human White Flag.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions
wait till larry hughes comes back...
no room for Rose . I don’t know why Paxson couldn’t trade some of these guys.
we did when we started thabo
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
did lose the ball
but it then bounced right to him
4 of 23 from the field? Wow.
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My question is how are they only down by 11 shooting 4 for 23?
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 7:36 PM CDT reply actions
For like 50 seconds, it had no effect on their performance
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
And also a reminder of how idiotic it is to overpay role players
That’s 50 million dollars of grit right there!
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The only way they can compete with Boston
seems to be an offensive lineup. Something like Rose, Gordon, Noc, Deng, Center
Yeah so starting Thabo......
Our defense still sucks, put your best damn scoring lineup out there and get points on the board. This is Boston, not some shitty lottery team. How many fouls did Boston get away with? I counted about 7 fouls the Bulls would have gotten on Tuesday.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
Yeah the fouls were pretty ridiculous. The call on Rose, and the no call on Noah were god awful.
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crap teams get crap calls
when playing against the good teams.
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
playing Boston exasterbates any weakness
but that was rather rough to watch. How long will it take to get ben and derrick on the court at the same time?
Thabo...
I dont even know if thabo could start in a european team
Ben Gordon's first quarter impact plays...
- Beaten by Rondo on a drive
- Missed 3 pointer
- Beaten by Rondon on another drive
- Turnover on a bad pass to a slashing Deng
- Dribbles ball, nearly loses it three times, then throws up air ball
- Loses ball, has it bounce back to him, gets assist on pass to Noce
- Drives lane with time expiring, misses shot, and (of course) falls down.
Now, he may have the best 2nd quarter ever, but that is why the guy is maddening.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Putting him in when the game is already a semi-blowout is pretty maddening too
Thabo contributed shit as well, I see no reason for anyone to be singled out right now. Get Rose, Gordon, Deng, Noce, and Gooden on the floor and let’s fire away.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh, weren't the Bulls down seven when Hinrich/Gordon came in?
That’s hardly a blowout, or anywhere close.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Look at the way they were playing
The offense was listless, defensively they were erratic and giving up easy buckets in the paint. I’m sorry, but that’s a hole you put yourself in when you don’t put out your best lineup possible. I don’t see the downside to putting BG (or even Kirk to give us an extra ballhandler) at the 2 when Thabo has been decidedly medicore.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
yes. he does.
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Doc Rivers must have taken the bulls on the spread
I have never seen a coach go to scrubs this early in a game.
Everyone sucks
But starting thabo is like playing with 4 players
A loose ball foul? Give me a break.
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Boston is pretty jump shooty themselves
I love how KG is decreed as a post player one day, but next week when he has a bad game he’ll be considered a jump shooter. Other than Pierce or Rondo, they don’t have a post presence, but having a set gameplan and playing their best players at all times tends to work well.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
That's gotta be a flagrant
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Big Baby
MAULS TT
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
Hell yeah
Those free throws are like layups for him
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
Actually
I shouldnt say that. he misses way too many of those.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
sports2.com is so "extremmmmeeee" yeahhh
who prides themselves with a shitty website like that
That's an awful shot Tyrus. Pass the damn ball
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Ugh I remember when all those calls used to go our way
It’s annoying, but I guess that’s how the league has been for years now.
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This is what drives me nuts about him. He's out of control and tries to be a guard out there.
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Nice use of fiery emotion Noce
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
this embarrassing
I think I’m turning this game off
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions
This is what I expected
Exactly how these games went last year
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We. Are. Awful.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
Yeah
kicking myself after getting excited after that bucks win. Then again, we are playing the defending champs. Then again, aaron gray is playing
by The90sBullsRevival on Oct 31, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
The refs are ludicrous in this game.
From the first foul when Tyrus got call for cleanly poking the ball away from Garnett, they have been ridiculous.
I rarely complain about officiating, but this fucking egregious.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
Yeah, but what do you expect?
The defending champs on their homecourt.
Still is total bullshit, though.
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
This is frustration to the max
I thought I’d be prepared for it, but man I forgot how bad this team is offensively when things aren’t going their way.
Advice to everyone, don’t overreact, it’s the 2nd game against the defending champs
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
game threads are made for people to overreact
you can’t stop the avalanche of negativity that is about to be unleashed
Rose
should take everyone to the hole every single time. Everyone else is up to fuck all
No way. I watch every Nuggets game living in Colorado... don't want to deal with it.
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Deal with what? A guy that can actually score?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
He's not a championship player.
And if you think our defense is bad now, you don’t want to see him on the floor. If you get Carmelo, you’re making him and Rose the franchise. That’s not going to win any titles. Something needs to be done, but Melo is far from the answer.
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My god, Vinny. These rotations are absolutely heinous.
You’re killin’ me, smalls.
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The nice thing about this
I’m not irritated at answering the door to trick-or-treaters this year.
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
lolz
Small bastards don’t even say trick-or-treat anymore! When I was a child (like 10 years ago) I got grilled about my costume and everything. Now these little punks just expect candy?
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just commenting on that!
It’s like they just stand in the doorway and stare at you till you put stuff in their basket. Some of the costumes are pretty crappy, too. ;)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
No kiddin... no trick or treat, no thank you's half the time.
Even more annoying when the parents don’t make any attempt to say anything either. Next year I’m buying a cattle prod.
1. Derrick Rose will make this a game
2. What’s up with Noc’s hair.
Gray
needs to sit down.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
Noce might as well get kicked out now...
We’d do better without that cry baby.
Don't call me doughboy!
Rose was actually telling BG to take the ball
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Gray is worthless.
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as he gets a block
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uh...gray
maybe you should get your own rebound. it did bounce right back to where you were.
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
you can pust up Perkins?
somebody get this man a contract
We need BG to get on fire like right now
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If Aaron Gray can't hit an open 7 footer...
He has no value at all beyond 5 fouls to give.
Don't call me doughboy!
Hey Aaron Gray is our best true big man!!!!!
Except he still misses close shots like everyone else on our roster. So take him out of the damn game.
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I'm shocked they called that on the Celtics
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trick or treat!
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
4 for 29
L-O-fucking-LZ
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nice pass by Gray. He did something right, so there's that.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions
take him out on a high note
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
good cut
by derrick. he moves well without the ball.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
That pass was three feet behind Rose and three seconds late...
He’s lucky it wasn’t a turnover.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The C's aren't even trying either, which is sad.
Then again, we’re playing Aaron Gray major minutes, so we’re not really trying either, right?
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You have to get that board
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Stop throwing up jumpers Tyrus
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At least we have Rose
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DAMN Rose
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
I love how Rose is the only one attacking the basket
Nice move
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
Nasty move by Derrick.
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Well this shooting night should put us right back in the basement of the leauge!
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
he just went right at garnett. pretty.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
This game might end up being good...
The Bulls are playing so tenatively while the Celtics are litterally owning the blocks… Like a championship team would.
Bulls can learn alot from this.
Don't call me doughboy!
kinda like the mavs preseason game
hey, its your game, go take it.
bam 30+pts
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
There we go Gray
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"Trick or treat, here's a Rose!"
That didn’t make any sense.
yeah I'm not following
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No I got you, I don't get what he said either.
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All I know is
he likes slamming his brother into gates.
Rose needs to get selfish
everybody else on the bulls need to step aside and let him be aggressive
Gray nickname:
Big Pasty
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
The Bulls have made 7 FGs so far
Pathetic isn’t even a strong enough word to describe this vortex of suck.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
7 field goals, 9 turnovers
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Yeah it was
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DUDE
that was a ridiculous shot by a superstar.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
Love TT's quick leaping and help D
But sometimes he does play defense with his hands more than by good position which will pretty much always get you into foul trouble.
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 31, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus
Right back at Garnett.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
TT needs to keep shooting that!
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
He's 1-6 from the field, at least 4 of those on jumpers.
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These refs are really terrible
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Good lord, Tyrus
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STOP SHOOTING JUMPERS TYRUS
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Deng just passed up one of the easiest shots of the night
To pass to Aaron Gray, to pass to Tyrus with nowhere to go with the ball. But who will get the blame for that play?
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
Holy SHIT ROSE
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
i heard someone say he was shooting as well as Deng this season
i won’t mention names
I did
and don’t mind him shooting jumpers. He’s not playing well today.
What is Deng shooting?
Are you really going to compare Deng's shooting with TT...
Really?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Why single out one game, one 10 shot stretch.
It makes no sense. Tyrus hit 40% of his long 2s last year. It’s not crazy for him to take that shot.
Here's the difference...
When he misses (60% of the time by the way) who is expected to go down there and rebound?
When Deng misses at least TT gets an opportunity at an easy put back or dunk.
Different players have different roles, and TT needs to figure his out.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
40% on long twos is actually good you realize???
So now TT is just an offensive rebounder. The one thing he is bad at is in close shots, do you realize that?
You are right...
My mistake. This offensive plan is working brilliantly.
I’m foolish to think that our uber athtletic power forward that jump through the roof should be trying to get offensive rebounds. That’s what we drafted Rose for right?
Carry on.
62 points here we come!
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
So what should Tyrus do when wide open at 18 ft?
They are taking away the drive. The rest of the team is shooting 20% as well. What do you want to him to do. He’s not good at scoring off the dribble?
If we are going to lose by 40 points anyway...
Then I’d like to see him learn.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ok but what should he do. just pass it to someone else?
go in for the charge? what?
Sure...
Pass it to someone else, let them shoot 20%, or (God forbid) put some motion towards the basket (off the ball) and maybe get some lobs or rebound/dunks… THAT’S WHY WE DRAFTED ROSE! Penetrate, dish, dunk… For clear evidence of this working take a look at how the Hornets do it.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus needs to be benched for the rest of the game
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Nah, that's what Skiles used to do
Keep him in for once, let him figure it out on the floor. He just gets pissed off on the bench.
Skiles wouldve pulled him 4 jumpers ago, if Tyrus hasnt figured out his shot isnt falling tonight
I don’t know what will
And when exactly...
… Does his shot fall?
Oh yeah, at summer camp right?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying bench him for the game
but something has to be done to stop the bleeding right now. I know he can shoot that shot, but right now it ain’t happening, he needs to abandon it or grab some bench for a little bit.
Yeah because everyone else is looking like Larry Bird out there
Again, why are people singling out 1 player when the whole team is playing like shit? Did Skiles infiltrate all your accounts?
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
In my defense...
I’ve been picking on TT for three years now.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
because he's open.
whenever he’s not shooting, the rest of the team is hoisting up horrible contested jumpers.
Yeah...
With no Power Forward (ie: TT) under the rim to get a rebound.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.....because that's what will make him a better player
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Another God awful call
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
tyrus
the idea was for you to roll to the basket. not to take that god awful jump shot
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
And yeah, Tyrus is looking like Larry Hughes
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
And everybody was saying how he's a team player and had changed.
He shoots the ball anytime he’s close to open. Like the espn guys said, there’s a reason why they’re leaving him open. He has a very low bball IQ.
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And you're Marilyn Vos Savant?
If he’s reasonably open, he’ll shoot. That’s pretty standard protocol in the NBA. He’s going to get called for charging or get destroyed at the rim against this defense.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
He should go to the basket more
and he has taken a couple bad shots, but I have no problem with him taking 18 footers. He usually hits them, he is having an off night.
18 footers?
Tyrus Thomas?
What channel do you watch him on?
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm saying he can't hit them.
And even if you think he can, that’s no place for our starting power forward to be playing.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not like TT...
On a team with a bunch of tiny guards and Deng at SF.
TT should be in the game for easy put backs and dunks. If we wanted a jump shooting PF we would have called Othella Harrington.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus Tyrus Tyrus.
He has to be able to affect the game even when his shot isn’t falling. its good that he has confidence, but he NEEDS to pass, dish, something.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
My vote is watch...
From the bench (ours or our opponent’s)
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by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Dear Mark Jackson
Go away.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
his 3 guard line-up idea
proves he should never be a coach. ridiculous
Didn't he say last year that Kobe was the greatest ever?
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 31, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Also today said Paul Pierce was the greatest Celtic ever
Before Van Gundy politely reminded him of how fucking stupid that sentiment was.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2008 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you all need to stop bitching about Tyrus
Eveyrone else on our team (besides Rose) is playing horrible and shooting the ball like their Helen Keller, but everyone bitches about TT. If you want to win the game, don’t pray that we bench Tyrus. Who do we bring in? Gray? Noah? He’ll get an earful at halftime i’m sure. But he’ll come back in the second half and play a good half.
The announcers are ripping on Tyrus more than we are even.
It’s pretty obvious and it hasn’t changed for 3 years.
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Do you see a better alternative
Jeez, you’d think we were playing Tyrus over the Mailman or something the way everyone wants him on the bench. What the hell will Gooden or Noce do besides take the same number of bad jumpshots?
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Gooden will bowl these jerks over once in a while...
TT is like a rag doll against the front line of the Celtics. That’s why he bricks a fade away jumper against big baby after he gets knocked to the floor.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Gooden sure did use his size to his advantage today
The frontcourt is a work in progress for the millionth year, get over it.
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by Ozzie Montana on Oct 31, 2008 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Refs in Boston calling Rose for 3 fouls in the first half?
THERE’S A SHOCKER!!!!!!!!!!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Thank you
A really awful half-quarter is not the end of the world. He got a little frustrated there, and he needs to learn to handle that better, but it’s not the end of the world. Let’s see if he can bounce back from this.
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what a debacle
this team is so fucking tight it’s ridiculous
relax and play basketball
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions
it would help if they weren't being allowed to be molested by the Celtics and then getting every call against them at the other end.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
play through it
it’s the defending champs on their own floor
what do they expect?
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
like you said, it's the defending champs on their home court. what did YOU expect from this team?
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
not to roll over and die at least...i mean i knew it was gonna be rough
but at least give effort and compete
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-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i hate the idea of "thats a rookie call"
call the fouls evenly. jesus. who cares how much nba experience you have.
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
nothing but jumpshots
absolutely nothing
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
AWFUL SHOT DENG!
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Luol took a bad shot
Bench him forever! He sux!!
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You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
He has a history of taking smart shots.
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Sloppy passing Boston.
Terrible ball security. terrible.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
JVG making an excellent point about the lack of hustle on transition D.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions
so has thomas
B.J. for three.... KABOOM!
by chibullsfan03 on Oct 31, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
"Young mistake?"
Kirk is supposed to be our veteran leader.
Tyrus, lolz
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Tyrrrrusssss
Drive. Pass. ANYTHING.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
And Tyrus shoots a brick again. But he was wide open! Sigh.
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the fouls calls
have been awful. The celtics are getting away with way more contact on the perimeter than the Bulls are getting away with in the post
I hate how Hinrich gets frustrated
and his body language turns all crappy. He shouldn’t be a captain.
Agreed he's a horrible example. His body language was a big reason why the attitude on this team was so crappy. I'd argue it's part of the reason people tonight aren't hustling back tonight. Hinrich's slumped shoulder routine is old.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, he goes into old Eli Manning mode
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yea thats makes sense
i bet his shoulders are also responsible for the crappy play last year, and ben gordons inability to play defense, and maybe even hitler while we are at it
It aint easy bein' Piatkowski
Defense is all about attitude and his shitty attitude doesn't help when he's out there.
by fundamentallysound on Oct 31, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
he is far from the only one with bad body language
and they all look like piles of suck
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
These guys are far too big...
And far too disciplined to let that happen.
Don't call me doughboy!
by Khalid El-Amin on Oct 31, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I will say this,
at the risk of becoming the biggest TT apologist on this site, Tyrus has never been given a long leash. He needs to figure out what a good shot and a bad shot look like, which is difficult to do unless you take a lot of each. I’m glad that VDN is leaving him in, and I hope he gets a nice talking to during halftime, then another 15-20 minutes of pt to learn from.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
I think after taking like 5 open shoots he will be able to realize that is time to drive or do something else….
You could say that about ALL OF THEM
besides Rose. Look how many shots everyone is missing. They should all be driving in to the basket.
Everything I post is speculation. I have no insider information nor ideas deemed concrete enough by those who are self-elected to regulate post content.
Why does he need to be in the game to learn that?
Everyone else (except maybe Larry Hughes) learns it whenever they play timed games. Or un-timed games. Or watching games from the stands. Or their living rooms. Or in practice. I mean… I think he should be given a long leash, but I don’t see how he’s gonna learn shot selection by being on the court.
He’s just not too good at it.
This year is about DEVELOPMENT
Anybody expecting a victory tonight is out of their mind, first of all…We need to get the ball in Rose’s hands and tell him to go to the hoop, period, that’s it. Let’s see what he can do. Tell him to get us back in the game and he will. Play Rose, BG, Deng, TT and Noah. I know they have Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, but maybe we should come out in a 2-3 zone? I mean it’s worth a shot, we’re getting RAPED in the paint right now.
It's a stretch to say
we CAN’T beat Boston. The Bobcats beat them last year.
Boston is going to go something like 20-3 at worst to start the season
Great teams get out to big leads in their division and conference…we just got unlucky having to play the Celtics in Boston for the second game of the year.
I'm just mad because of...
Awful shot selection from just about everybody, stupid turnovers, getting screwed on the foul calls. I expected to get killed, it’s the way that it’s happening that has me fucking furious.
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first half worst-commenter
CubsClapp!
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Hubris
ya hate to see it.
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
This too shall pass
Pax is watching and taking notes
yeah, and on the back of his notebook you can see
“John Nocioni” written in cursive.
xoxoxoxoxoxo
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 31, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
A number of observations...
(1) Those of you who are already conceding the season need to stop. These are the NBA champions and we are in game two (2) of the Rose era;
(2) Yes, I realize Tyrus has a horrendous shooting percentage, but the vast majority of his shots have been wide open. He has really only taken two bad shots (fade away and a leaner where he was obviously trying to draw a foul). Boston is obviously scheming to allow that shot. If VDN were awake, he would actually take Grey out, move Tyrus/Noah to the five, and play Gooden at the four. Gooden can actually hit that jumper;
(3) Rose needs to improve his pick and roll defense, but I still think he looks awesome. It’s pretty hilarious that Boston is obviously gameplanning to stop him. It’s the second game of the season and opponents have already concluded he is our best player;
(4) The team defense and offensive sets really make me concerned about VDN’s coaching ability. I don’t fret about the players, but I do worry about that. Then again, see point one.
LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!
The big thing Tyrus needs to learn
is that if the jump shot isn’t falling attack the rim. They all need to learn that but Rose it would seem.
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I agree Cran, but honestly I don't think that
TT would get a single call tonight.
Instead of chastising him for hi sbad shooting percentage, everyone would be chastising him for going to the rim recklessly and “being out of control.”
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Tyrus can't put one in the ocean tonight
BUT, as long as the Celts are giving him open shots and he refuses to take it to the hole, where the refs suck, I think he should keep chucking. Eventually he will find his range, or else my heart will be broken.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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As one of the biggest fans of Tyrus
that 1-10 shooting is killing me
Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right
by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Oct 31, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Stat line of note:
Thabo: 8 Min, 0-3, 0-2 3pt, 1 TO
yick
Asked what kind of player he expects to be in the next five years, he said: "Not a star, but like, a superstar. Something around, like, Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, something like that."
Why does Vinny insist on starting him?
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Oct 31, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Ray Allen hasn't done a thing
I’m not saying starting Thabo makes sense, but he hasn’t been the problem tonight.
As the designated Thabo apologist
Pretty much everyone outside of Rose sucked that first half.
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 31, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Can someone make me a recap?
I couldn’t watch the first two quarters…
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Better than that
taking it to KG twice, impressive
go do something else with your night
this is ugly
by darksmokepuncher on Oct 31, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyrus 1-10?
uau
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
Pooh!
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Jeez - he's really freaking good!
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
now the announcers are just making fun
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by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 31, 2008 8:51 PM CDT reply actions

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