10/13 - BG still out, Rose didn't practice, VDN turns up the heat
[From the fanshots. -ed.]
Ben Gordon had stated his hope to practice Monday but remains out with a sore big right toe. Gordon also missed time during last season's preseason with a sprained ankle.
Derrick Rose also is missing practice because of a death in his family.
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The temperature inside the practice gym has been noticeably stuffier each day. And that's not by accident. Finally asked if he was behind the heat increase, Del Negro confirmed and then smiled.
"How do you think Aaron Gray lost those 25 pounds?" Del Negro said.
about 1 year ago
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LOL
How can someone not like VDN??? His sense of humour is great… LOL
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
by bull83 on Oct 13, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea but then again boylan was pretty funny
and he was arguably the worst coach in nba history
by Jbasic89 on Oct 13, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you count bumbly as funny.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious??
That guy, funny??
Unless what you tried to say was that B***** was/is/will always be a joke himself… In that case, I have the same opinion
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
by bull83 on Oct 13, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was funny
if you ever listened to his interviews
by Jbasic89 on Oct 13, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boylan wasn't funny but was definitely a big joke.
Jbasic stated he was arguably the worst coach in NBA history. I have to ask….Who in their right mind would argue with such an observation?
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
Elbert Hubbard
by Tyrusmancrush on Oct 14, 2008 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know, i think this is hilarious
now let’s hoping his coaching is as awesome as he seems to be. :D
by Jaina on Oct 13, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else wonder/worry
that the big toe might not be as bad as Gordon is making it out to be?
It just seems like an excuse. I remember KC raising awareness to the issue last year that Gordon may have been resting a little longer than needed when he was hurt.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's cause
KC’s a turd!
I don’t see any reason why Gordon would not want to play. It’s a contract year, dontya know.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
which makes me question why this line – “Gordon also missed time during last season’s preseason with a sprained ankle.” – was even included in the blog update. Gordon missing some time during last year’s preseason should be irrelevant.
I can’t stand KC and his little snide remarks.
by NormVanBeer on Oct 13, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of players
miss preseason games due to injuries to feet/ankles etc. KC makes it sound like Gordon isn’t just doing something unusual in missing some but is faking it as well.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your BABers agree with you
KC is practicing truthiness.
by NBA Observer on Oct 13, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that KC puts way to much commentary into his writing
but I’ll take the little insight as him letting us know something he can’t directly write. It was last year when he said as much on some radio talk show. He said we’re not allowed to call out a player for not playing, so he didn’t, but he thought they (Gordon/Deng) were healing extra long. That because of the contract year, they’re only playing when 100% because that way their stats won’t suffer.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tanking it
Gordon has showed a “I’m better than the rest” attitude since he started with the Bulls. I think this is his little payback for not getting his contract. He probably thinks he can rest early and turn it on in the 2nd half and get his contract. Worked well last year, didn’t it?
by kmatus on Oct 14, 2008 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Why everyone give so much importance to what KC writes? He only writes what the Bulls want. Not what the fans want to read…
Can anyone tell me when did KC had a big scoop? Honestly, I don’t remember…
Besides, I don’t know what he has against BG. Ever since BG declined the Bulls offer that KC is always aggressive when he writes about him…
I’m tired of KC!!!
Please Pax, don't trade Hughes! Just make sure that he stays injured until... 2010!!!
by bull83 on Oct 13, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were those pesky rumors going around
during that pesky ‘sore wrist’ that plagued Ben last season.
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 13, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bah, too many 'pesky's there. Scratch one please.
by RogersPark Kris on Oct 13, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think extra pesky is warranted :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But I did call it a couple weeks back that any and every time Gordon got hurt, it would be second-guessed and innuendoed to death.
I guess Drew Gooden and Michael Ruffin are faking it too. And Rose… I mean, he’s not even playing for a contract, so why should he bother at all?
I like free speech and all, but for the sake of everyone’s sanity the next guy or gal to pursue this dumbass line of thought should be drawn, quartered and fed to a pack of jackals.
by Sports2 on Oct 13, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question was raised last year that Deng and Gordon weren't playing through injuries.
This year Deng is signed, Gordon is not. Deng is playing, Gordon is not. I don’t think it’s such a horrible suggestion to bring up. Gooden played this year. I don’t have an answer for Ruffin.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question was raised last year and it was stupid.
The question being raised this year continues to be stupid. And you’re stupid for doing it and I hope you’re drawn, quartered, and eaten by jackals.
And by the way… you don’t have an answer for why Ruffin isn’t playing on his injured ankle? Ya know… sometimes there’s a simple explanation. Like, he’s got an injured ankle.
by Sports2 on Oct 13, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's start rumors!
Noah is hiding his poor conditioning with an eye injury. He got Thabo to poke him the eye so he’d have a good excuse for turning green and passing out half way through the second quarter from lack of conditioning. Gooden is protesting the rumor the team wants rules made so he will have to shave off his nasty facial hair and refuses to play “injured” until it is revoked and the rest of the team grows identical mustaches as restitution. Gordon is angry he didn’t get his money so he is hurting his own chances of establishing himself as the SG of choice in a crowded back court with the new PG. No one is really injured! They are all jerks. And who is Ruffin? He needs to be taught a lesson by the media too.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never insinuated Ruffin wasn't injured
I insinuated Ben is waiting longer than usual (til he’s 101%) to make a point. He’s given a lot to this organization and feels slighted.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And so he
is taking it out on himself? He is only hurting himself if it is true.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in his mind,
preseason doesn’t matter much in the long run. Maybe he showed up for camp after holding out the first two days (and rightfully so as he had no signed contract) and found they already inserted Kirk firmly into the starting lineup (which is basicall what happened). Maybe that just added to his frustration so Ben only wants to play at 100% this year. It benefits him to only play at 100%. If he doesn’t play quite as well because he is injured it can be held against him in his numbers/playing time.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose it's easier to post pictures than actual words
The only attacking seen here is from you and a few others for saying anything even slightly anti-gordon.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference between being anti-Gordon
And just saying random stuff that has little to no factual evidence to back up.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 13, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not random
I mentioned:
1)it was pointed out last year that players were purposely sitting out longer to get back to 100%
2)I noted the article in the paper yesterday with Gordon’s attitude. He seemed very defensive about the issue
Those are the two things that led me to make the point. I didn’t state it as fact. Just brought up the idea.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
um...
1) no one except a repeatedly anti-player beat writer has said this
2) I’d be defensive, too, if someone continually questioned my character w/ no basis in fact.
by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2008 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it's not ok to question Ben's character
But it is ok to attack KC’s character as most everyone has done on here?
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this case, maybe....
The only person to write about Gordon’s “character” so negatively is Johnson, who has repeatedly taken an exaggerated view that is anti-player.
by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2008 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss something?
When did he write negatively about Gordon’s character?
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they're small pictures, all good
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You realize 101% is actually impossible, right?
When you have to rely on, literally, impossible hyperbole for an argument, it might be a sign that it’s not such a good argument.
by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2008 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the point of using 101%
To accentuate that Gordon is overly waiting to make his point. If you can’t figure that out, then maybe you shouldn’t join the argument.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can figure out your argument is specious at best.
Fallacious and near-libelous at worst.
by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2008 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's just being a turd
MO
1) Select a point of view
2) Throw everything against the wall, whether you know it’s bullshit or not, to further your point of view.
It’s lazy and boring, although it did spur me to find this listing of fallacious argument types. Our boy CJ might very well create a complete set for himself by the time the season starts. At the very least, it’s fun going through the list and picking out which fallacies he’s trying to foist on us in any given post.
by Sports2 on Oct 14, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly just threw it out as a talking point.
After reading the article, that’s what popped into my head because Gordon was being standoffish in the interview (or at least as the quotes would lead you to believe). Usually people get defensive when they’re sensitive about a subject. From there I got many angry responses so attempted to defend my position.
I don’t see where any bullshit came in. My words have been taken and thrown back at me, changed away from my original statements. There was no bullshit used.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toe injuries
are tough to get over. Walking let alone running can be very painful. BG should get rid of his coffee table.
by sue369 on Oct 13, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but where will he place his BG7 energy drink?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
in the basement, cuz you can’t fit 500 cases of that shit on a coffee table.
by kig on Oct 13, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the sucess story from his entourage?
Yes, I’m carrying the water for KC.
by NBA Observer on Oct 13, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that toe injuries can be bad for cutting purposes.
But I don’t think I can come up with a time in my life I stubbed my toe and a week later still couldn’t play basketball.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh jeez.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you play
in the NBA? There is a difference between playing in the NBA and playing on Sunday afternoon with your buddies.
by sue369 on Oct 13, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are right on
Ben Gordon is staying at home and losing his opportunity to earn playing time to piss off… to gain an advantage for… to help him with… why would he purposely stay at home? From all reports, Gordon loves playing bball, loves working out and doesn’t mind practicing.
by DangerMouse on Oct 13, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amateur medical analysis is awesome
Even better than the guy who said Ben Gordon was 5’9 because he said so.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 13, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it not fair to raise the point. Have you ever jammed your toe before on a coffee table?
How bad could it be, seriously? It has been over a week. Call it amateur analysis, but the injury is common. And playing basketball in a pick up game vs. playing in the NBA seems to have no difference in my mind. A toe is a toe is a toe. I’m just raising the question. In fact, if you look at the article in the tribune today, Gordon seemed a little standoffish. Which first made me even question the idea. I guess KC probably should have asked the question, “if this was a regular season game, would Gordon play?” I guess that’s what I’m curious to find out.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could be worse than an ouchie toe
And besides, he’s a “for sure” player that you know will do what he do. Playing in pre-season is not really for guys like him, past a certain point.
As long as he is in shape, allowing him to rest whatever minor injuries he may have will only help. ESPECIALLY if Derrick Rose ain’t even in the game.
If he says his feet/toes hurt, why wouldn’t you believe him? Has he faked injuries before to be held out of games, like he was Theo Ratliff or sumthin’? I bet if it WAS a regular season game, he would play— which is ok, because this isn’t a regular season game.
Am I missing something? I doubt Gordon is dogging it, and being healthy for the games that count is what is important. I seriously doubt Gordon missing 5 of the 7 games last season led to the downfall of the Bulls last season.
It’s just one of those things. Ideally, he’d be out there, but if he has a nagging injury you deal with it.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Oct 13, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having a
jammed and hairline fractured toe in the past I can say that it is horrible and too much activity causes pain, swelling and toenails can fall off and other icky things. And it is hard to walk straight, forget trying to be agile on your feet with a bunch of 200lb+ men stomping around. Gordon has every reason to establish himself early with the glut of guards in the way. The fact he hasn’t played and done that means that it isn’t safe for him to be running around out there risking a worse injury during the preseason. When you are favoring your foot and playing around a bunch of scrubs in the 4th quarter of a preseason game your chances of turning an ankle increases. If this was anyone of Gordon’s caliber they wouldn’t be playing either.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben doesn't have a hairline fracture.
He just stubbed it.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't feel like getting into it further.
Look up turf toe and ligament damage. Jamming is different than stubbing. If that is what he has then it isn’t a surprise he isn’t playing yet. A stub lasts a day. That will last longer. If he wanted to fake it or hold out for whatever reason a mere stub was a very stupid thing to settle on. It would have been easier and less suspicious to fake a back strain. Any kind of serious toe problem is fairly easy to spot with an x-ray.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok but he doesn't have turf toe or ligament damage or else it would be written.
The original report was this on 10/6:
“Ben Gordon missed a portion of the Bulls’ 3-hour-15-minute practice Monday after jamming his toe. Gordon also is nursing a sore ankle, although coach Vinny Del Negro said neither injury is serious and Gordon hasn’t sat for an entire practice.”
Since then he’s played less to where today’s report says he isn’t practicing at all. So the injury has gotten worse? I’m not saying for a second he made up an injury. Just wonder if he’s being over-protective for selfish reasons.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then
you can either believe he is being selfish or not. Unfortunately once it comes down to that then it is all reduced to opinion and predispositions. I just don’t see the point of making such drastic character judgments based on so little information. His character has been established during his time in the league and doing this would be very out of character. It is easier to believe that what applies to everyone else applies to him as well in the fact that a guy of his caliber has no reason to play through an injury during the preseason.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
but it wasn’t a drastic character judgment.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why aren't you
sharing any conspiracy theories about Gooden or Noah sitting out because of their injuries? It is very easy to start a rumor and we already know the media soured on Gordon after he did sign the long contract. Perhaps everyone is just legitimately injured. Is that hard to believe?
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it's all the media's fault
It’s like when they report stuff we want to here, everyone is on board (see the KC article on Rose being the real deal), but when it’s stuff we might not want to hear it “oh KC sucks, what an idiot.”
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, no.
The media isn’t without prejudice and they are not a charity. Do you really think they are? Maybe they should have thrown in more “Tyrus, who will be traded” in there to show what happens when the media thinks they’ve been slighted and get a hate on for a player or they start smelling money in storyline they could milk the rest of the season. Gordon didn’t sign a long term contract and isn’t talking to the media like they’d want. Regular people think Gordon is a malcontent who is all high on himself thus love reading bad stuff about him to prove that they were right. Thus a battered toe that wouldn’t get in the news if it was anyone else suddenly becomes proof positive that Gordon is holding out on purpose. That kind of story sells and that’s how he spun it. And that is how the media works. Or we’d read more about hard working scientists making breakthroughs in malaria treatment and less on Paris Hilton in jail.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What an odd view to take
You do realize I’m the one who posed the idea he’s holding back, not the media. If you ask me, the only reason this is a story is because a jammed toe has led to an unnecessary amount of time off.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if he wanted to fake something
and have it be less of a red haring for the media to pick up on he should have complained of back pain or something. Only something as stupid as a lingering jammed toe joint could be true. Just embrace it. Noah got poked in the eye. Perhaps the team should have watched some video on avoiding mundane but potentially crippling injuries. They need to avoid kitchen knives and patches of ice too. Only believable injuries count these days. Fake lower back pain. No one will question that.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the last time
I don’t think he faked an injury. I’m saying he’s waiting overly long to come back from one. You keep moving the topic in a different direction.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why should he not wait until he's 100%?
It’s pre-season and having a lingering injury is stupid. Dumb. Idiotic. Sometimes I wonder if you want this team to actually be worse.
by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2008 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that's the kind of stupid behavior you want
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2008 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because no one else waits til 100%
Noah is playing in goggles. He was also very winded at the last team event. Clearly he’s not 100. Yet he still walks on the court. I don’t see people calling him an idiot. While it is clearly more important to be 100 for the regular season, there is also value to playing in the preseason and practicing with the team. Especially when the team has installed a new coach and entirely new offense/defense.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're catching on
to how it works in here.
by sue369 on Oct 14, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought VDN
was joking around with that. And injuries such as turf toe are pretty severe – it’s not the same as stubbing a toe. And it can be exacerbated with use.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Oct 13, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"And playing basketball in a pick up game vs. playing in the NBA seems to have no difference in my mind."
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When taken out of context yes
In the full view of the post, it makes a lot of sense. Do you believe if two people were to stub a toe, the NBA player would somehow be less able to move on it?
by CJ Bulls on Oct 13, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
an NBA player has 82 real games to look forward to
hopefully more.
And you really think your pickup games have the same stress on that toe as an NBA game?
If so, keep digging I guess.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying the act of playing basketball
doesn’t change on an injured toe. If anything, you would expect more toughness from an NBA player to gut it out. But like I mentioned earlier, the question is would Gordon be playing if this was a regular season game. He hasn’t practiced. That much is now known.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if that's the question, what's the answer?
And what’s it “prove”?
And yes, most definitely it’s different. To not recognize otherwise is ridiculous.
by tyger1147 on Oct 14, 2008 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In some respects yes....
In terms of how a guard uses his big toes, the difference is negligible.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep. digging.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So can you tell me how it's different?
It’s running and jumping.
by CJ Bulls on Oct 14, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever played basketball on an injured toe?
I have.
Let me tell you it changes alot. I never realized how much the big toe mattered until I hurt it myself. You rely on it for balance and every change of direction and if it REALLY pains you that’s not easy to play on.
Now whether BG is faking his BiG-toe inury is another matter…
But if it’s legit I totally understand him resting it. At least for the preseason.
by BAB-Bass on Oct 15, 2008 3:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might be a lingering bruise from bouncing the ball off it too much... ;)
by BAB-Bass on Oct 15, 2008 3:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Gordon is a saint you hear me!
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 15, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More time for DR
That’s okay, just more needed PT for Rose.
by chetwalkerssweatsocks on Oct 13, 2008 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Robinson Sweater
I think we should take a collection to buy BG a nice sweater to wear at the end of the bench friggin malingerer
by houstonbull on Oct 13, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am saying Ben is faking it
…just like eddie robinson who played like 10 games a year but wore some nice cosby sweaters.
BG is salty and he’s already left this team.
dont play him.
by houstonbull on Oct 13, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Hughes is healthy and wants to play.
Thank goodness the Bulls have honest hard workers like that to take over for liars and malcontents like Gordon. And thank goodness we have the Chicago media there to reveal to us that Gordon is faking an injury. They were absent all summer but now have redoubled their efforts. We might have mistakenly thought Gordon was a good guy otherwise. He could have claimed he had a back injury and we’d never have known, but by having a toe injury proves that he is lazy and holding out for reasons known only to him and a few select critics. Close call there.
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by cranscape on Oct 13, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd because this is either satire
Or just funny if you honestly believe it.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 13, 2008 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this thread is reccommended
to give the reader a sure fire migraine headache
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by Orlando Woolridge on Oct 14, 2008 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
contract
I actually thought they would have been better off not even offering him the QO. Saw this coming. I think the Bulls could have gotten rid of the soap opera this will turn in to had they just let him go. They will get nothing for him anyway,
by kmatus on Oct 14, 2008 6:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can handle this massive controversy
if he shoots well.
It’s preseason…sure they’ll use it as an excuse when the season starts in the tank, but I’ll wait until we get there.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 14, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see where the NBA is laying off 80 people due to the economy.
Ben Gordon should never have walked away from that money and this will only diminish his value if it’s true.
by hhirb on Oct 14, 2008 8:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
each team
is its own entity, financially seperate from the NBA. The NBA is trying to save money, not the Chicago Bulls.
Gordon walking away from a contract has nothing to do with what Stern said, or vice versa.
by NormVanBeer on Oct 14, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems a lot of teams were frugal this off season
they all operate in the same economy.
by hhirb on Oct 14, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
but David Stern cutting 80 jobs in the NBA offices does not have any bearing on Ben possibly regretting turning down a contract
by NormVanBeer on Oct 14, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the possible exception of Memphis
teams that are under the salary cap are going to end up spending money. The teams already over or near the luxury tax threshold were the ones refusing to spend this past off season. Those teams wouldn’t be bidding on Gordon next offseason anyways. It remains to be seen how teams no longer willing to pay the luxury tax will affect the valuation of free agents, but I’d be shocked if BG can’t find someone under the cap willing to pay him more than the MLE.
We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look.
Ronald Reagan
by snley on Oct 14, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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