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Trade scenario

Trade Larry Hughes $12,827,676 back to the Wizards for Brendan Haywood $5,500,000 and Darius Songaila $4,235,000. Brendan Haywood is a strong guy that can slam down the dunk with authority.That would take care of our Strong Center issue and gives us some salary relief this year which we could add a little money to Gordons offer and get him signed. With Gilbert Arenas out for a few months they can use Larry Hughes.

Let me know what you guys think.

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Wizards would not part with Haywood

He’s key component to their team, even if he is average at best and probably one of the biggest cry babies in the league

by RussBus65 on Oct 1, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Besides

Haywood actually seemed to be putting things together a bit more consistently for them last year. They most certainly are not going to trade for Hughes, when he’s a now redundant and inferior version of Caron Butler.

I know Arenas is out again early, but they aren’t about to pay Arenas $20M or whatever it is I think it might be more, Butler an all star and a worthy all star and quite possibly their best player on both ends (esp if Arenas can’t get his mojo back) $9.3M and $10M+ the 2 years after that, and have Hughes on the bench for his nearly $13M salary….especially when Haywood looked more than servicable last year.

by majoyenrac on Oct 1, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many years are left on Darius and Brendan's contract?

It wouldn’t be a bad trade depending on how many years are left on their contract. Gives us depth down low. If this was proposed before Etan Thomas had his heart condition I think the Wizards might have at least considered it. But I don’t think at this time they would.

by J Theory on Oct 1, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Why would the Wiz do this?

They have Stevenson, Nick Young and Juan Dixon at the 2 already and their only other bigs are Jamison, Thomas, Blatche and Pecherov… why in the hell would they want to do this trade? Antonio Daniels is going to start until Arenas gets back, just like last year. No need for Larry (whom they let walk 4 years ago, by the way)

by kig on Oct 1, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

right

they didn’t wanna pay him then, why would they now?

by Jaina on Oct 1, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because ...

the pleaselarryhugesstoptakingsomanybadshots.com website sent him J.J. Redick’s “Better Shooting” DVD! And he followed the instructions for about a half-month afterwards. It’s a resurgence!

by Prevenge on Oct 2, 2008 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wizards giving two bigs

to get one guard? This trade would leave them with a glut of players in the backcourt and few players in the front court.

It would be Jamison, Pecherov, and Etan Thomas. Am I leaving someone out?

by NBA Observer on Oct 2, 2008 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

How's about this

Trade Machine

Bulls trade Hughes, Aaron Gray, protected #1 pick
for
Wizards trade Etan Thomas, McGee, Pecherov, McGuire

I think that’d at least partially make sense for the Wizards. They’d be getting Gray and a 1st rounder to compensate for giving up McGee and Pecherov (who would be required to meet the CBA requirements).

That’d give the Wizards a pretty solid front line of
4 – Jamison, Songaila
5 – Haywood, Blatche, Gray

For us, basically, we’re getting some big bodies for our unneeded guard.

by Sports2 on Oct 2, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Not too bad...

I’d think WAS would do it to get that #1 and Gray (who played well against them), besides eliminating the Haywood/Thomas friction. Assuming they’re not particularly high on McGee or Pecherov.

The only players there I like are McGuire and Gray, so it doesn’t do much for me personally. Keep the pick and make Hughes the fifth G, I say.

by marionette on Oct 4, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

anybody else think

that the Bulls would be open to dealing future #1s? They’re basically cap holds that the Bulls (supposedly) can no longer afford. And as long as they’re not bad enough to be drafting in the top 10 anymore the talent they’d get wouldn’t be that great….and as we know the Bulls already have plenty of not-great guys.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 4, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

But, but... Demar Derozan... or something.

I’d trade 2009 and 2010 for under-26, borderline starters… what you would expect to get from drafting a player in the teens.

I wouldn’t trade 2011 and beyond, though, because I’d hold those for “sweeteners” in sign-and-trades. They won’t be worth much, hopefully being in the 20’s, but they certainly won’t hurt.

by tyger1147 on Oct 6, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point Matt

about the future #1s.

Damn, it’s hard to make (reasonable) trades. I modified this one to try and get Blatche:

Hughes, Noah, and #1 (Protected) for Thomas, McGee, Pecherov, and Blatche.

Don’t know if that’s any better.

by marionette on Oct 4, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

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