Open Game Thread #36: Bulls at Orlando Magic

Short lead, longer comments

Just watch.

3 games out of the 7th seed. 5.5 games out of the 4th seed. Just win baby.

Ben Wallace putting a Magic player on his ass one time tonight buys the Body one more week with me.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 4:49 PM CST reply actions

Thanks Norm

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions

I believe I had that one

Lots of comments. Although, I didn't predict the 3rd quarter stand up/sit down routine from Joe Smith and Ben Wallace. It was a real laugher.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 12:44 AM CST up reply actions

Look on the bright side

maybe Dwight Howard might actually eat Ben Wallace that dude is a monster.

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 5:26 PM CST reply actions

"Ok, now FREEZE IT!"

"....Look at how Dwight Howard's shoulders are a good 2 feet over Wallace's head. He might eat him. Ok, now "ROLL IT!"

"You guys won today. You guys won yesterday, so that's two in a row. If you win again tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE."

by Jobu on Jan 15, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions

ha

This game: I'm not going to let myself get mad with what the Bulls are doing or not doing on the court. I am going to sit back and enjoy a young talented player who actually gets "it".

(Note: If BW actaully is eaten tonight, do you think Dwight is going to spit out the fro?)

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions

Dwight's eating for two

He just confirmed he's a new dad.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 6:06 PM CST up reply actions

think Dwight is going to spit out the fro?)

Naw....
He'll SHIT it out.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions

about working for ESPN is you get to watch them put those things together during commercial breaks and you can see that Stacey really has no power over them "freezing it" or "rolling it" and its set up to do that beforehand. Makes it really awkward to watch live.

by JSlakov on Jan 15, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions

No Hinrich

That's what Wayne sez. At least a picture of Wayne indicates he said it. Gordon superstition continues...

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 5:57 PM CST reply actions

They're starting Duhon and Thabo?

That's got to be the most punchless backcourt in the league. Will the Bulls score 10 points in the first quarter?

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 5:59 PM CST up reply actions

only if the refs call goaltending 5 times

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions

so they're going to not have

Hinrich, Gordon, or Deng in the starting lineup.

I've set this game to record, but we'll see if it gets watched.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2008 6:01 PM CST up reply actions

GO BULLS!!!

Looks like Du is going to play most of the night (unless Thabo sees some major action). Kirk is out with his back. :-(

A win would help a lot of things with this team.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 5:58 PM CST reply actions

Thabo is starting.

Go Thabo!!!

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions

He's starting alongside duh

historically, a bad combination.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2008 6:03 PM CST up reply actions

historically

there is no good combination with Thabo

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 6:57 PM CST up reply actions

For those of you board waiting for the tip

Sam smith has updated his mail bag

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/askthewriter/cs-080115asksamsmith,1, 5683491.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 6:00 PM CST reply actions

Paxson is the problem

I believe Paxson is 100% responsible for the current hardships of this franchise.

-he let the players take over and run Skiles out of town. Skiles is a good coach and deserved better than that.

-he signed Wallace to a salary cap crippling contract which Wallace did not deserve. He is a terrible player with zero basketball fundementals who got franchise player money. Unexcusable.

-he waited too long on trade pieces like Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng, and draft picks. He overvalued them and now they are untradable because the secret is out: these players just aren't very good.

-he failed to aquire a center. He failed to aquire any low post scorer.

-he resigned Hinrich and Nocioni before he resigned Gordon and Deng. Hinrich and Nocioni are not very talented and they are inconsistent. Gordon and Deng at least are above average but Hinrich and Nocioni are, to put it bluntly, crappy NBA players.

-he took Noah and then expected him to all of a sudden accepept being role player, a 12th man. Unreasonable expectations from a player like Noah. Also, there was better talent available.

-he took Tyrus Thomas for no apparent reason other than "he's athletic let's draft him." Aldridge is twice the player now that Thomas will ever be.

by Triad88 on Jan 15, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply actions

He also traded Chandler for PJ Brown

PJ Brown is out of the league. Go figure. Chandler is a hard worker, a defensive specialist, and you can never, ever question his effort. Wallace was supposed to be an upgrade? What was this idiot thinking?

by Triad88 on Jan 15, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions

bye vlad

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 15, 2008 6:24 PM CST up reply actions

Meh

I still think that Thomas and Noah are not getting the playing time like Aldridge to develop in the first place. If Aldridge was on our team he'd be our 12th man and we'd never know if he was good either.

by cranscape on Jan 15, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions

I'll have to listen to this one

and historically we win games I have to listen to on radio so we shall see.

by cranscape on Jan 15, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply actions

Here comes Aaron Gray to guard Dwight Howard

This should be very entertaining.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 6:19 PM CST reply actions

yes

2 fouls on BW.

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 6:19 PM CST reply actions

Well - at least Wallace is FORCED to sit now

with 2 quick fouls....

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply actions

So help me God, I can't tolerate it if

the Bulls get abused by Jameer Nelson again.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply actions

I take it Hinrich is hurt?

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:21 PM CST reply actions

yep

bad back (no surprise, eh?)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:22 PM CST up reply actions

With this line up and Thabo starting

heck...he just might get a chance to build some confidence.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:21 PM CST reply actions

I actually feel like the Bulls are gonna win

for some silly reason.
Maybe it's because the "starter's" are either out or already sitting in foul trouble.

It would be just like the "kids" to step up and show once again why they should get more minutes.

But anyone know why Noah is still out?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:24 PM CST reply actions

Noah is on the inactive list again?

Unreal, if so.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:25 PM CST up reply actions

well

i like half of the backcourt... I thought Boylan had it right with Thabo then i saw Kirk was out

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 6:25 PM CST reply actions

I rarely agree with the harsh criticism

leveled at the Bulls' broadcast team, but Red's nearly orgasmic excitement over Gray is truly hilarious.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:28 PM CST reply actions

I'm getting Orlando's guys

nice break from Red.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions

That's Gray's second foul

He and Wallace both have two, so now they'll have to put Noah in.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 6:29 PM CST reply actions

Noah sighting

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:32 PM CST reply actions

Current line

Du
BG
Noc
Noah
Gray

Oh....boy...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions

Noah

2 quick boards

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 6:33 PM CST reply actions

AND a block on Turk one on one!

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:34 PM CST up reply actions

it was a steal

for those of you following along at home.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions

Bulls up by 3 after 1st Q

who woulda thunk?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:37 PM CST reply actions

And a bucket by BG to end the quarter

wow, things are looking up.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:38 PM CST reply actions

Duhon might play the whole game

is JamesOn active?

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 6:40 PM CST reply actions

How does the back court look?

Can't get the full experience with the radio.

by cranscape on Jan 15, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions

looked good until that BG TO

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:43 PM CST up reply actions

So..

...everything is pretty much normal then. :D

by cranscape on Jan 15, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions

BULLS WIN!!!!

(The first quarter, at least)

Evidently, Boylan's new plan is to utilize line ups that no team could possibly prepare for. Look for JamesOn to get parachuted in for the fourth quarter.

by paxson43 on Jan 15, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply actions

Note to Noah

Don't sag on our boy from U of I. All he can do is shoot.

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 6:42 PM CST reply actions

heh

he's the anti-Noah.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions

Ah, the beloved second quarter.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 6:44 PM CST reply actions

The Bulls can't guard the three point lne for

their lives.

Game after game this season.

Make a damn adjustment, Boylan.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:44 PM CST reply actions

I didn't see the beginning of the 2nd Q

but I came into the room and noticed that with Wallace back in the game, the Magic have taken a 6 pt. lead....

Any coincidence?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:45 PM CST reply actions

not to nitpick

anybody notice Noah make the wrong cut a couple of possessions ago?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:45 PM CST reply actions

Did anyone just notice

that we went from up 3 to down 7 as soon as Wallace came in to begin the 2nd.

Cook did hit some insane 3s, but the offense is just frozen with Big Ben in....

by ajbullz on Jan 15, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions

And not to be out done by Noah

Wallace takes a lame duck shot and misses horribly

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions

Ben Gordon

should be our point guard. He's a fantastic ball handler.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions

You're kidding, right Sue?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

Oh yeah.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:06 PM CST up reply actions

Sam Smith has spoken (again)

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/fullcourtpress/2008/01/the-pre-game-lo.html

It's a few hours before the Bulls game with the Magic and I'm here early.

I'd heard Ben Wallace wanted it that way or he was going to suspend me. I'm expecting that when the Bulls return home later this week, Ben will have made it clear he's suspending fans who boo or chant for Kobe.

He's starting to remind me of the Castro-like rebel from the great Woody Allen "Bananas" movie. They are the people's army until they overthrow the dictator and the rebel chief goes power mad. He demands everyone change their underwear four times a day. To make sure they do, he demands everyone wear their underwear on the outside.

For a guy who hates blogs and bloggers, he's actually pretty good at at.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions

Liked this part at the end

There was no truth to reports the players decided to suspend Noah again when learning about Hinrich and wondering if the stress from the Noah reaction might have affected Hinrich. No word on whether there was a team vote.

by paxson43 on Jan 15, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions

Goukas is talking smack

about BG's ability to run the point...

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:48 PM CST reply actions

He's right.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not disagreeing

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 6:57 PM CST up reply actions

Joe Smith - 1 for 5 FT's tonight so far

ugh.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:50 PM CST reply actions

Is it the scheme, or are the Bulls' players so

slow that they can't guard the three?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:51 PM CST reply actions

Ben Gordon leads the league in

turnovers committed while standing and pounding ten feet beyond the 3 pt. line.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:52 PM CST reply actions

This is pretty frightening

They're dominating the Bulls in the 2nd quarter with Dwight Howard out of the game. What happens when he comes back in?

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 6:52 PM CST reply actions

I didn't expect to win tonight, but how about just

keeping it competitive?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:54 PM CST reply actions

I wonder

what the record is for negative +/- for a single game. I swear Wallace will have a -50 game this year. (If he hasn't already)

by JeffD on Jan 15, 2008 6:57 PM CST reply actions

Getting close

This was a -28.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions

Wallace should be replaced with Noah.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions

Ben Wallace is SO F-ING slooooowww

And as lazy as they come.
He's standing around while everyone ELSE is pulling down rebounds...He's got TWO so far....

And his knee-high stockings "fashion statement" fits right in with his girly man image...
Anyone remember "Buckwheat"?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions

Thabo's starting to heat up

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions

Thabo

looking better and better.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions

Tonight would be great for a drinking game

except for being a Tuesday and all.

One for every BG TO
One for every BW hook shoot or fallaway
One for every time Noc shoots on his first touch
Tonight, add one for every Joe Smith missed FT

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:01 PM CST reply actions

And for those who don't drink...

one shot for every minute Tyrus plays.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:02 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, what's up with THAT again??

He's just sitting on the bench.
The camera panned to him and he was sitting there with a glazed-over disinterested look on his face with his finger in his mouth....

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:09 PM CST up reply actions

And then to A-drain

laughing as usual. Wish I found this season as fun and entertaining.

Although you had to think Noah would get the PT tonight after the 2-game benching thing. And since it's apparently against some sort of rule to play them both...

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions

The bulls play a lot better

when there are only one or two guys who don't know/aren't interested in following the play.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions

I wasn't even necessarily meaning

that they should play together. Just the fact that, with Wallace getting so many minutes, one or the other always seems to either get the DNP or just a couple of token minutes.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not much

of a drinker so I'd be drunk by now.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:06 PM CST up reply actions

thabo

you're my hero!

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:06 PM CST reply actions

I am so

happy to see him get some playing time.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:07 PM CST up reply actions

Du

just committed a BG turnover

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:07 PM CST reply actions

As long as Orlando

keeps Howard in for Cook, the bulls have a chance.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions

smiley face ;-)

for those of you who can't tell.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions

Duhon & Wallace end of Quarter screen rolll

...horrible...just horrible...

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions

Since Thabo is playing so well, does this mean

we can trade Hinrich?

(I'm kidding.)

(Sort of.)

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:09 PM CST reply actions

huh?

If Thabo was playing point maybe.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions

I only said Hinrich because

he happens to be out tonight, allowing Thabo to play.

If you'd rather trade Gordon, that's fine too.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions

or if Duhon pulled a groin

I think they'd be all set, although "Matt" Duhon is making an appearance tonight.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions

Well, the way he's playing tonight

and with a little more confidence, I honestly think that he COULD play PG.

He's certainly a nice change from Kirk.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions

I'd like to see

Kirk and Thabo in the back court. I always thought that was why they got Thabo was to pair him with Kirk.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions

Maybe we'll get there yet

with Thabo starting to play more and much, much better. And Du can slide to back-up PG.

Although, since he's apparently going to play a lot tonight, I'm thrilled to see Du hitting his shots.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions

Yep.

Hope Kirk isn't out for very long.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:24 PM CST up reply actions

Wallace sucks

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:09 PM CST reply actions

Is Duhon even bench material?

Does Duhon add anything to this team? Lack luster D and no shot. Again, tonite he adds nothing. I was just about to write that he can at least hold onto the ball, then he turns it over just before half.

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply actions

Bad night to be the token hater

Duhon is playing pretty well.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions

Check out his stats this year!

Duhon is shooting 35% this season. 32% 3 pts. Poor shooting!

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

hopefully

when Kirk comes back it will relegate Du back to his role as a BACKUP PG

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions

I lov e the Wallace pump fake

it drives the opponnents to put their arms down. He doesn't need to pump fake and fade away every shot, the defense wants him to shoot!!!

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:13 PM CST reply actions

lol

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:17 PM CST up reply actions

Sadly, with Noc and Smith hitting their shots

we are not going to see TT tonight.

by philosoball on Jan 15, 2008 7:17 PM CST reply actions

Really?

Noce - 2 for 6
Smith - 4 for 7

That doesn't seem like enough to keep TT out.
But Boylan's apparent personal dislike for him is...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions

Noah played fairly well.

He got lost on offense once and he let some three point shooters get free, but he rebounded very well.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:21 PM CST reply actions

Did Wallace and Griff

suspend Tyrus?

by Scotter on Jan 15, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply actions

All this Tyrus talk is making me very

melancholy. It seems the organization has simply made a decision to limit (or eliminate) his playing time.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:23 PM CST up reply actions

The game is not televised in Iowa

How do they look?

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions

Yes it is

televised in Iowa if you have NBALP. It's always televised in Iowa if your cable company carries WGN, CSN, NABLP etc.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions

My cable provider

Carries WGN but we only get the superstation games and I am not sure if any providers carry CSN

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions

Mediacom does.

Not sure where in Iowa you are. We have DirecTV and they have CSN. So does Dish. Have you looked into either of them?

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

Maybe you should make that your sig line

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions

I'll think about it

I need to get a better provider

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

I used to have that problem, too

Wouldn't you know that THIS is the year I finally ponied up for League Pass?

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

NBA is a weird place this year.

Atlanta is up 21 on Denver at the half (so at least we aren't the only team)

And those Celtic-killer Wiz are losing by 16 to the Knicks half way through the second.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions

If

Thabo could play like this more often and bury Duhon a little further down on the bench it'd make for a better team

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:26 PM CST reply actions

I'll second that

More Thabo

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions

I SO wish Wallace would pick up more fouls

that seems like the only way Boylan will sit him down...no matter HOW bad he's playing...

F.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions

Lol. I was saying the same thing

by gobulls1124 on Jan 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

And then Wallace holds the ball

and they get a shot clock violation.

And just like that the Bulls are down 19 with only 5 minutes gone in the 3rd.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

thank you BEN

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions

That was such a shit possession

by Ben Wallace.

Please put Noah in.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions

Fucking Ben Wallace

Any coach worth a damn would bench him with the way he's playing tonight. Too bad we have a puppet who does what he's told.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions

Totally agree.

He adds nothing to the team.... Gray is more effective. Pax has his puppet keep him in. They can't bench him. They would concede that they pissed away all that money.

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

The Gordon dibble-athon

is upon us

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST reply actions

Got to love those

half time adjustments.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:34 PM CST reply actions

I agree

We should sit Pax needs to mandate playing the young guys. Wallace is getting us nowhere

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions

Night after night of 20 point

humiliation.

The same mistaked repeated over and over.

This is intolerable.

Trade someone, fire someone, play the youth, do something.

And can someone please tell me why the team can't guard the three?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions

Because

the rotation is slow. Slow players making poor decisions slowly

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

These are the same players

who led the league in defense the last two years.

They got slower?

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions

No.

they got faster

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions

The same mistaked repeated over and over

It's like a really bad twilight zone nightmare that won't end.

I seriously F-ing HATE Wallace.
He SUCKS.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions

Isn't

That the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions

I see we getting blew out in the 2nd half

Glad I can't see this crap

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 15, 2008 7:36 PM CST reply actions

Are you

In Iowa like me

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:38 PM CST up reply actions

Nah, in the dc area

Gave up my league pass just in time...Thought I could get the feeds but I guess since the bulls suck they not even putting the feeds up.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 15, 2008 8:04 PM CST up reply actions

I have a gift

for missing the really shitty parts.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST reply actions

wow

You must hardly be watching at all then

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions

All the time

I was even at the last game...

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions

but I was getting a hot dog

in the first quarter.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah

in Atlanta?? It didn't look like there were 10,000 people at that game

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST up reply actions

I had most of the 5th row

to myself.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions

The 5th

row stretched allll the way around the arena you mean??

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions

Watch Gray

on Howard. This'll be good.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:37 PM CST reply actions

Did Goukas

just say Gray is a face up player 16 feet from the basket?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:38 PM CST reply actions

what flavor is Red Kerr sucking on?

by gobulls1124 on Jan 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions

that last camera shot of Boylan's face

looked just like Skiles used to look at this point in the game....

Skiles is probably laughing his ass off right now.

Ugh.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions

Dear Pax,

Can we please call the Ben Wallace experiment over?

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions

F that.

I say the PAX experiment is over.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST up reply actions

No field goals in the second half.

Bulls keep finding new lows.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions

What a difference it makes

when the opposing center actually guards our guy

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions

There it was, the patented BG drive...

Although he just stumbled after getting blocked, not a full fledged fall.

I give it a 7.9.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions

patented BG drive

Why he picks the times when the lane is CRAMMED with big bodies with absolutely NO chance to do drive to the hoop is dumb.
founding.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions

LOL!! Thomas just sucking his thumb on the bench

THAT looked pretty on NBA tv....
Geez...

Anyone tell him there are some things he outta NOT do while playing on public tv?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions

Walk it off Noc

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions

ouch

maybe Tyrus will be seen tonight. Noce is tuff but that hurts

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions

neat to hear Nocioni grimace

that's why I watch the U!

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions

ha

I just said, "Only on the U". Atleast this game is live. Noce might have a broken tailbone.

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions

this is easily the worst episode

of Living Single ever.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST up reply actions

Noce's

ass is on fire right now

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions

Yikes

When Noce can't get up, you know he's seriously hurt.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply actions

That doesn't

look good.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:44 PM CST reply actions

Ahhh Noah

victory assured

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions

Usually, it helps to bring the young guys in

before you get down 20+.

Boylan has yet to figure that one out yet.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions

nah

its alll about gettin' the young guys some pt. Context is irrelevant

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

I thought

it was about getting the guys to come out and play hard day in and day out? Thats why Boylan went with the players, right?

by JeffD on Jan 15, 2008 8:02 PM CST up reply actions

Nope

its alllll about the massive amount of latent talent languishing
on the bench

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions

Deng and Gordon pretty much invisible

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions

Griffin is in!

Time for him to show his great leadership skills.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions

lmao

by gobulls1124 on Jan 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

A-drain!

Everyone drink!

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions

Looks like

another DNP CD for Tyrus

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions

TT can play when they go down 30

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions

So with all that's wrong tonight

we STILL see a-drain and NO TT...

F-ing Boylan.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:48 PM CST reply actions

That Nelson rebound was pathetic

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions

Do you see how

Noah is lost at the end of possessions? This is what they're talking about. He doesn't know where he is at the 17 sec. point on the shot clock

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions

Did you see him get blocks and

rebound?

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

Oh yeah

he's awesome. He always knows EXACTLY whats going on and where he's supposed to be even in garbage time. It's clear why you guys love him so much. If he doesn't get 35 minutes from here on in I'll just die

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions

I change my mind.

I sincerely hope that Noah gets far less than 35 minutes a night.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions

Maybe he'll learn by being out there

They're down by 26 points in the third quarter - what do they have to lose?

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions

It

doesn't even look like Orlando is trying that hard, this it like watching an overmatched pickup game!!

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions

you on fire tonight

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

I really have to question Boylan's intelligence

at this point.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions

question Boylan's intelligence

Actually, how's THIS for an idea:

Skiles got fired because he was getting tired of playing the line ups that PAX wanted and was bitching about it.

And now Boylan IS playing who Pax wants.
But it's only a matter of time before HE starts giving Pax enough shit to get fired too.

Crazy?
yes.

Possible?
Who knows?

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions

Ooh, I want to play, too

Maybe the "vets" got together, decided that the kids weren't getting enough PT, and unanimously voted to play like crap until the season was out of reach to force Boylan to play the young'uns.

Or maybe Isiah put a curse on the team after Big-Mac-gate last year - he's always looked a little evil, you know.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions

UNANIMOUS

Oh thanx for that...

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Jan 15, 2008 10:49 PM CST up reply actions

At this point it is all on Pax

Whether its Skiles or Boylan, this whole team consists of really good bench players that are not playing well. I am sure Phil Jackson or Pat Riley could get more out of them, other than Deng, there are no real players that could be considered starting material on this team.

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions

Adrian Griffin

before TT. That shouldn't be.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply actions

you can't complain

if you don't vote.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions

huh?

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions

Nicely put

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions

You think they voted unanamously

at halftime not to make any shots in the 3rd?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply actions

Good one

That is funny

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions

it's still the 3rd

WOW

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions

There goes that damn candy wrapper

Red, turn off your mic when you unwrap your tootsie roll!

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply actions

Who will we see first?

Thomas or Khryapa

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by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply actions

Apparently Khyrapa

There has to be some sort of reason for that. I mean... wow.

Sheesh.

by Sports2 on Jan 15, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions

good to see

spirits are high on the bench.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:53 PM CST reply actions

I loved that shot

Why should Wallace and Smith care, really? They're getting playing time no matter how good (in Smith's case) or bad (Wallace) they play. I'd be pretty happy too if I was those guys.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 7:55 PM CST up reply actions

Bulls trivia: How many consecutive

blowout losses will it take for Paxson to realize that the veteran driven playoff dream is over?

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:53 PM CST reply actions

he's out of warmups!

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions

The back-to-back blowouts at

Boston and Houston purportedly led to Skiles departure, right? And I could certainly make an argument that these last 2 are even worse.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:00 PM CST up reply actions

I wish Paxson

would read this blog

by gobulls1124 on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply actions

If the Gray, Noah, Tyrus lineup

gets no minutes tonight, I would what the spin will be tommorrow. It wasn't time yet to try the development of our young guys when we are down 30 going into the 4th?

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply actions

You're drunk

go to bed

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 7:58 PM CST up reply actions

Tyrus!!

welcome to the bashing

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply actions

no DNP for Thomas

no guarantee Boylan plays him at all in the 4th, either.

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:55 PM CST reply actions

Fortunately he got a shot off

so he'll show up in the box score if Boylan yanks him now.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 7:58 PM CST up reply actions

Don't spread the court at the end of the half ...

and run isolation pick'n'roll. The bulls do not have the personel to run it effective. When are they going to learn?

by Jesse07 on Jan 15, 2008 7:56 PM CST reply actions

Veektor!

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions

Success!

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions

Viktor!

If I don't laugh I'll cry.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions

The Junk Yard Dog with a big jump shot!

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions

Now THAT'S hillarious!

A-drain, Veektor, TT, Noah and Thabo to start the 4th.

I seriously wonder if Boylan has lost it.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:00 PM CST reply actions

these veterans sure got the job done tonight

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply actions

I don't know how Wallace can sleep at night

comparing his paycheck with his performance.

What an asshole.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:03 PM CST up reply actions

I know how he sleeps

On a large pile of money, most likely.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions

May the gods make it

a bed of coins then.

Sleep well Wallace...on nickels and dimes. Ahhahha

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:06 PM CST up reply actions

get nichols in there

Fire Boylan!

by hscs on Jan 15, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply actions

Victor is in

Was he like Ralph Malph is Happy Days? Usually Ralph wore his street clothes because he never played

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply actions

Has a franchise ever fired two coaches in a

single season?

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions

What do you mean?

Fire Wallace? Oh, you mean the other coach.

by cranscape on Jan 15, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions

i like where your head's at ...

but in all seriousness, how can scottie pippen do any worse? are there any direct flights from finland to chicago?

by Orange Juice on Jan 16, 2008 12:40 AM CST up reply actions

You think Thabo and Joakim

speak french and eat chocolate together?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 8:04 PM CST reply actions

3rd bad game in a row for Gordon

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 8:04 PM CST reply actions

that's another story

for when the Noah thing finally blows over, wtf happened to BG?

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions

He found out

Pilates doesn't have dribbling exercises.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:06 PM CST up reply actions

You must be wrong

He's come off the bench on every one.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:06 PM CST up reply actions

Maybe JJ Redick will get some PT

and we'll see if the Bulls can defend the arc against anyone.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:04 PM CST reply actions

Maybe JJ Redick will get some PT

Wadda ya know?
He just checked in.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions

wow

over and back

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 8:06 PM CST reply actions

Noc with a hip bruise.

Glad to hear it isn't worse.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:07 PM CST reply actions

Although if he's out tomorrow

and Kirk can't go again, it could make the game against the Heat more than interesting.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:11 PM CST up reply actions

Jeeze maybe

I should start drinking now.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions

Hope that game is one national tv

...checks schedule...

ESPN. PURRRRRFECT!

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:07 PM CST up reply actions

Khryapa & Crew

cut it to 20!

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions

Time to bring on the vets...

to close it out.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions

Unbelievabull

No Heart

No Leadership

No Coaching

No Effort

Your 2007-2008 Chicago Bulls!

by Orlando Woolridge on Jan 15, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions

This is as bad as the first few years after MJ

We may end up with a worse record than the Knicks and Miami

by chgobr on Jan 15, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions

At least

We can then get on with the Derrick Rose era. Much prefer it to the grit it out Ben Wallace era.

by goldengod on Jan 15, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions

Agree about Wallace

I must say I did not see this happening

by chgobr on Jan 15, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions

One thing is clear - at least tonight:

Noah, Thabo and TT playing together look frostier and far crisper with more energy than the starting cast even came close to tonight.

They make Wallace and Smith look like grandpas out there.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:13 PM CST reply actions

Noah shines again, statisticallly.

Working on a double double in his limited time. He is standing out in this garbage time as a play-maker.

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 8:13 PM CST reply actions

double double

Just got it.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions

Words cannot express

The disappointment I feel with this team.

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply actions

Word.

:-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions

At least

It's only twenty nine days until pitchers and catchers report

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions

WORD!

Again. :-)
(I can't wait!)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions

Hey, look who's got a double double...

in about 20 minutes.

It's that no footwork havin', non-shootin' skinny bastard named Noah.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply actions

Oh my god

and against the other team's starting lineup too....plus they were trying really really really hard. Lets pencil him in for
20 and 10 every night.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions

No, let's stick with the veteran

lineup that resulted in us being down by 20 in the first instance.

That's a fucking brilliant plan.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions

I'm pretty sure he can get 4 and 3 . . .

Because that's what Ben Wallace did tonight. Oh wait, I forgot about all the "intangibles" he brought to the table tonight. Intangibles like laughing on the bench while the Bulls were getting destroyed in the third quarter. What great veteran leadership.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions

I'm coming up with new names for Noah

"Player formerly suspended by other players" is all I got. But I like Mr. Double Double better.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions

The Iowa Energy

looked way better last night than our starters

by Orlando Woolridge on Jan 15, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions

Lerrivee just said that

the Bulls are the worst team in the NBA at defending the 3.

What a surprise.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 8:17 PM CST reply actions

Viktor tears it up

in extended garbage time.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 8:18 PM CST reply actions

Give

him twenty minutes tomorrow or Pax is an idiot.

by Rusty LaRue on Jan 15, 2008 8:39 PM CST up reply actions

Really, what would happen if the Bulls just

benched Wallace and started Noah?

Sure, it would be a public admission that Paxson was wrong, but who cares? Things can't get worse than this.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:20 PM CST reply actions

It would never happen

The vets would have to unanimously vote to do it.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions

Things can't get worse than this

Be careful what you wish for...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions

Wait for tomorrow night

by chgobr on Jan 15, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions

that would symbolize accountabilty

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions

It might be buyout time

I really doubt they can trade Wallace, at least without taking back another terrible contract (which defeats the whole purpose of trading him). If he's this bad now, how bad will he be in a year or two? What separates good GM's from the bad ones is that the good ones are willing to admit a mistake and cut their losses. That's what Pax needs to do here, because it just ain't working out.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions

it just ain't working out

I think that Pax and Wallace are in a stand off...

Wallace doesn't want to be a Bull anymore, and is playing shitty on purpose in hopes that he can take a powder puff like Tim Thomas did.

But Pax is pissed, so he is MAKING him play regardless.

Problem is that EVERYONE loses.
And we fans have to watch it fester night after night.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions

That's be a double admission

You fire Skiles because (most notably) Wallace is dogging it, and then you turn around and fire Wallace?

LOL, maybe he'll call up Skiles and invite him back a la Billy Martin.

by Sports2 on Jan 15, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions

Aren't these games enough of a public

admission that he was wrong? There's not much more public or wrong than that 3rd quarter.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions

Wallace - 3 Reb's

He is my new most hated Bull...just replaced Rick Brunson

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions

Nice dunk by the non-post move havin'

skinny bastard.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:22 PM CST reply actions

Yeah, Wallace was a little Rusty

tonight.

by philosoball on Jan 15, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions

Trade Ben Wallace & Start Jokim

I can't belive I want that but looking at the box score PLEASE do it.

by Ibleedbullsred on Jan 15, 2008 8:23 PM CST reply actions

bwhahahahah

Veeektor

by Orlando Woolridge on Jan 15, 2008 8:24 PM CST reply actions

We sure

Got a hell of a lot more production from Noah then from Wallace. I wonder how much a buyout would cost?

TMD- http://playahatersblog.blogspot.com

by TMD on Jan 15, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions

less than Marbury, Randolph, and Curry

So once again, the red pill is...at least we're not the Knicks.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:16 PM CST up reply actions

I like Noah.

Not only is he athletic and young, he genuinely looked pissed to be losing.

Bench the vets, play the youth.

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by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions

We can't play the young players, because we might

lose.

If the last two games haven't put the lie to that argument, I don't know what will.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions

Box score only shows the Bulls losing by 14

But the Magic stopped caring around the 30 point mark.

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply actions

Ben Wallace stopped caring at

about the 11:32 mark of the first quarter.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions

Ben Wallace stopped caring

You're suggesting he even cared at all....which I disagree with. :-)

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Jan 15, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions

I don't like to bitch and moan

like you guys do, but everything about an isolation play for AG angers me.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Jan 15, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply actions

I like to bitch and moan!

by RogersPark Kris on Jan 15, 2008 8:28 PM CST up reply actions

Silver lining

Maybe they don't watch him enough to know he's a lefty, and he dazzles with his "off hand". Little do they know, {wink}.

I'm really digging here.

Mourning the Pete Myers Era.

by cubbybear on Jan 15, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions

welcome to the piss party

A little back to the basket AG actually takes me out of the funk.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions

VeRy SaD!!!!

At the end of the game, the team looked totally dejected! So dejected that they forgot to display some class and congratulate the opposition. They walked off the court like the Pistons did when the Bulls beat them in the playoffs. (Jordan era)The big difference being that Pistons team was good. What a pathetic excuse for a team!

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 8:29 PM CST reply actions

Um this isn't

college ball. They never congratulate the other team.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions

Good Call

True. I did not take into account that most of these guys have not played real pro ball before. The guys on the floor at the end were totally wet behind the ears.

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions

I think you missed Sue's point

The pros don't normally go out of there way to congratulate each other after a regular season game. What happened with the Bulls/Pistons in '91 was disgusting because some of the Pistons walked off the court with about a minute left in the game.

by snley on Jan 15, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions

The only reason to continue to watch the games

is to see how Noah, Tyrus, and Thabo develop.

There is nothing else left.

Paxson and Boylan MUST now realize that the tightened rotation is a disaster.

LSU 38 OHIO STATE 24 - LSU IS THE NATIONAL CHAMPION AND I AM THE KING OF BOURBON STREET!!

by 1958ChiTown on Jan 15, 2008 8:30 PM CST reply actions

You are in my head.

I am trying to justify continuing to watch. In reality, I feel like a loser for watching this losing team. It is like buyer's remorse..... I want my 2 and 1/2 hours + blogging my frustrations time back.

by BiNgO on Jan 15, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions

Your "blogging my frustrations time"

Cherish it, because who knows how many people would be maimed instead of pelted with sarcasm if we Blog-a-Bullers didn't have this outlet.

Mourning the Pete Myers Era.

by cubbybear on Jan 15, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions

When I first started following the Bulls,

back in Kirk's first season, I used to be more interested in his stat line for a game than whether it was a W or L for the team - and I hate that this team is playing so badly that I'm getting back to the point of watching stats more than the record.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 15, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions

Ditto

Sad at is, when i first heard the score i was depressed, then when i heard hinrich didnt play the thing i fell back on was (laughing in my head) "without hinrich this team is worse"....its probably a point that could easily be proven wrong, but so long as i could think that, i still have some hope.....oh hope...what a horrid horrid thing.

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Jan 15, 2008 11:21 PM CST up reply actions

Think how bad they will be

when the Boylan honeymoon period ends

by Orlando Woolridge on Jan 15, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions

Bench Wallace Now

Another gem of a performance for Big Ben! 4 points and 3 rebounds without any blocks or steals.

Duhon also lit it up tonight, shooting 33% from the floor, with 5 assists and 4 turnovers.

A winning NBA team cannot start players with these kinds of stats. This team is not winning anything unless a big trade comes through. Therefore, these games are completely pointless. Play Thabo, Noah, Tyrus and Gray big minutes every game and let's see what we have. We already know what we have in our starters (i.e., losers).

by Stay Chisel on Jan 15, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions

I wonder if

Pax is with the team in FL? If not I'm sure the phone lines are buring up right now.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 8:36 PM CST reply actions

Sue - sometimes I feel we care more than the team

We are not even competing. It is hard to get a rebound when Wallace is out there. I'm depressed.

by chgobr on Jan 15, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions

I try to

be positive about this team but I don't think I can any more. The Hawkeyes are on tomorrow night so I'll be watching them.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 15, 2008 8:59 PM CST up reply actions

so when does the next venting thread start?

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 15, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions

On the plus side

Sam's pre-game blog is actually pretty funny.

by JeffD on Jan 15, 2008 8:49 PM CST reply actions

Link

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/fullcourtpress/2008/01/the-pre-game-lo.html

by JeffD on Jan 15, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions

With all these eggs being laid

Who wants an omelette?

I'm having a Denver omelette. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Green peppers.

Mourning the Pete Myers Era.

by cubbybear on Jan 15, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions

Victor

...for President. If Noc is out, perhaps he'll see some extended minutes against the Heat...

...or maybe it just means we'll see more of AG.

by leeac on Jan 15, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions

Noah played good, but ...

after finally watching him get some extended PT, I can see why he shouldn't be playing massive minutes yet. 1 second left on the shot clock, foul J.J Redick for 3 free throws! Weeeee.
I missed the first~half of the third quarter [started watching, and we were down 28], luckily. Extremely luckily.
Thabo played good, which is ... good? ... Joakim played ... Tyrus can sink the jumpshot. It looks pretty.
...
I'm sure something will happen to fix this. Eventually.

by Prevenge on Jan 15, 2008 9:15 PM CST reply actions

bad noah play

but the shot clock expired. The officials even had conflicting calls. Baseline official had a violation. The half court official had the foul. They didn't conference as per the NBA rule and just went with the foul.

by NBA Observer on Jan 15, 2008 11:24 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, but still,

there were a couple plays like that. One or two where he went for a dunk and got stripped/blocked, though when he converts, he converts.
It's not about what it did to the team in this game, because they were down by 20 with around 5 minutes to go. It's about what it could do if he does the same thing in another game.

by Prevenge on Jan 15, 2008 11:43 PM CST up reply actions

anytime

you see Khryapa for two straight games, you KNOW there are problems...

It's hard to watch anymore...the effort is completely disgusting

by ScottieCartwright on Jan 15, 2008 9:26 PM CST reply actions

Putrid

just got home, checked the box score. Was at the Knicks game tonight. Already knew Knicks - the hated, lowly, pathetic Knicks - had more talent than our Bulls. Wondering if they have more heart now, too. Bleh.

by Freethefro on Jan 15, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions

This was Matt's "mail-it-in preview"

Yet he probably worked harder on this preview than the Bulls did in the game tonight.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 10:33 PM CST reply actions

Wow

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-080115chicagobullsorlandomagic,1, 4210710.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

Falling to 14-22 and hardly competitive, several Bulls players on the bench late seemed relatively indifferent to the result. It was perhaps a worse message than the events of the evening, which were discouraging as well.

Apparently it led to a dispute in the locker room as rookie Joakim Noah complained about the attitude on the bench and argued with veteran Ben Wallace. One witness said Luol Deng had to step between them to ease the tension.

What a fucked-up team. Noah is 100% correct, though.

by Big D on Jan 15, 2008 11:50 PM CST reply actions

The more Noah talks

the better off the team will be.

If no one will lead, take the lead rookie! Go out there alone if you have to.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 12:02 AM CST up reply actions

John Jackson doesn't have this scoop

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/742786,CST-SPT-bull16.article

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 12:09 AM CST up reply actions

Seriously.

I sense that this may happen soon:
Team: "Hahaha! The other team is ahead by 30. Oh, that's rich."
Noah: "You *** **, we're supposed to actually be WINNING THE GAME! PLAY *** BASKETBALL!"
Team: "You're cursing. 3 game suspension now!"

...

Veterans: "We're old hands at the NBA, we don't care if we win or lose! As long as we get paid ..."
Let's have them vote what happens to the team for the rest of the year. We can go 14-68, get the first or second pick.

by Prevenge on Jan 16, 2008 12:16 AM CST up reply actions

oh man, too tired for that gem

thank god Sam's on the road with this bunch.

For those interested, watched up until the first half of the 3rd quarter. Then fast forwarded until Noah came in, slowed a bit and then stopped when Tyrus came in for that one play where he took a dumb jump-shot (but eh, I would too after sitting through that garbage)

Then saw he was out to start the 4th and shut it off. I hope Veektor proved his mettle. Bulls fever!

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2008 12:21 AM CST up reply actions

and special mention

that said, it was fun to read the comments. It's as bitter, cynical, and sarcastic as ever.

(except for Rusty, his contribution tonight is a check-minus. He's new though. To computers and casual interpersonal interaction.)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2008 12:24 AM CST up reply actions

You missed the laughing part

It was in the last two minutes of the third quarter, while the Bulls were getting absolutely hammered. Comcast showed a glimpse of Wallace and Joe Smith yukking it up on the bench (and of course, none of the shitty Bulls announcers commented on it).

by Big D on Jan 16, 2008 12:25 AM CST up reply actions

I dunno

it's not that bad in isolation. But after the taking 'ownership of the team' fiasco into consideration, makes that whole thing seem worse.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 16, 2008 12:28 AM CST up reply actions

It would be one thing if it was just one game

Even good teams have a few embarrassing losses in a season (like the Pistons against the Knicks the other night), so I can understand laughing off a loss like that. When you're getting blown out night after night like the Bulls are, though, you probably should at least pretend to be upset about it.

by Big D on Jan 16, 2008 12:35 AM CST up reply actions

In their

midnight telecast Comcast did say when they showed BW and JS laughing, "Wonder what Paxson had to say when he saw this?" I hope Pax gives Reinsdorf a swift kick to the ass for bringing Wallace here.

Win, just win.

by sue369 on Jan 16, 2008 9:19 AM CST up reply actions

Comcast?

Wasn't the game on WCIU?

Anyway...I missed the laughing part...I must've been washing dishes at the time, seriously.

But like you said, I never heard Larrivee or Red Kerr make mention of it.

by ScottieCartwright on Jan 16, 2008 7:53 AM CST up reply actions

TV Broadcast

It was broadcast on "Bullsnet". Last night's game appeared on WCIU. I guess WGN and WCIU share the TV rights for "Bullsnet".

I think WCIU gets about 8-10 games per season.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 8:14 AM CST up reply actions

Gordon's comments

at the end of the article was the worst part. I've been reading comments like that from the "core" all year. Is it ever getting old.

WHAT IF the Bulls didn't renew Gordon's rights this suummer (whatever that's called) because to do so would cost them $6+ million. Then Gordon would automatically be an UFA. That would be hilarious!!

by hlac on Jan 16, 2008 12:36 AM CST up reply actions

McGraw says halftime

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=114329&src=150

Sam's article seemed to suggest the separation of Wallace and Noah occurred at the end of the game. McGraw says it happened AT HALF TIME.

I thought I remembered the Wallace and Smith jokeshow in the 3rd quarter.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 12:48 AM CST up reply actions

That doesn't make much sense

The Bulls were actually in the game at halftime, so why would anyone be upset? It wasn't until the third quarter that they got blown out.

by Big D on Jan 16, 2008 12:54 AM CST up reply actions

On the other hand . . .

I guess it would explain why they fell apart after halftime, so who knows.

by Big D on Jan 16, 2008 12:55 AM CST up reply actions

Wallace and Noah

Shared the bench from 7:06 to 4:28 in the 3rd quarter. They didn't share it again until the locker room.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 1:04 AM CST up reply actions

Not surprised

could the leadership vacuum be any more obvious? In situations like these the biggest personality (Noah) will obviously clash with the biggest ego (Wallace).

by cranscape on Jan 16, 2008 8:15 AM CST up reply actions

Noah makes people on here ...

... get itchy fingers and contribute 300+ comments on a weeknight. I just had to wake back up and contribute to the tally.

Noah also brings out the crazy. Some columnist has lost his mind by writing a Godfather IV column about Wallace and Noah (check today's Tribune if you dare). But I did enjoy Sam Smith's latest mailbag because of the questions. Did some of you submit them?

by Orange Juice on Jan 16, 2008 12:27 AM CST reply actions

Wow this thing is ready to blow

This team is falling apart. Paxson can't let it get worse. A trade is imminent

by bullsfaninla on Jan 16, 2008 12:40 AM CST reply actions

national TV

for 3 of the next 4 games. Great, now the rest of the country can see how embarrassing this team is.

vanillablue.wordpress.com

by vanillablue on Jan 16, 2008 1:02 AM CST up reply actions

But who is of interest around the league?

As bad as the team has played, there are only a few guys I'd actually like to get rid of, and they are the ones who either never play or have huge contracts. Oh, and they also tend to be old and like to call team meetings.

"I believe. I believe. It's silly, but I believe." (Miracle on 34th Street)

by wjb1492 on Jan 16, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions

I wonder what Pippen thinks now

Tell us Finnish experienced Pippen.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 1:07 AM CST reply actions

Roman Modrowski saw the laughing

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/2008/01/the_bulls_are_pathetic.html

He almost misses covering the Bulls.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 1:11 AM CST reply actions

Buy out Ben

This guy offers nothing now. He's done as a player, and his "leadership" is laughable. It's bad enough he's stealing $60mm from the franchise, so don't exacerbate this by letting him continue to steal valuable playing time from our young bigs who may end up contributing more than Ben anyway. Buy the guy out, or deal him for another bad contract that expires in the same or shorter period of time for a guy who at least isn't a cancer. All Bulls fans have left to watch this season is the development of our new young core (22 year old Deng still included) and the hope that we land in a position to draft either Derrick Rose - a play maker the Bulls desperately need to get their guys easy buckets - or Michael Beasley. Enough is enough, Pax needs to admit he made a terrible mistake and cut off the lesions.

by messwiththebull on Jan 16, 2008 7:53 AM CST reply actions

even when you buy out a guy

the money counts against the cap.

by KT on Jan 16, 2008 8:15 AM CST up reply actions

Yep

Chris Webber is still the highest paid player on the Sixers.

You buy out players to gain the available roster spot and acknowledge you cannot trade the contract.

I think Chicago can deal the Ben Wallace contract. Michael Jordan might make a deal.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 8:17 AM CST up reply actions

I agree, someone will take him

He can be an effective player in the right situation. The question is simply how little are we willing to take back.

The way I see it, the Bulls need to say yes to anything that

doesn't make their cap position any worse in the long run. We potentially have a lot of room when Wade/Lebron/etc become FAs, so we might as well keep that slim chance alive. At the very least, it's not worth foreclosing on that chance just to be rid of Ben Wallace.
Look for guys who might help off the court, because you aren't going to get guys who help on the court. Examples: Malik Rose, Eric Snow.
I don't know if MJ has the contracts to give back to take Wallace. I'm looking and I think any trade with the Bobcats would force us to take back guys with long contracts (Nazr and Matt Carroll) which I don't think I'm wiling to do. Actually Carroll's is front loaded, so I could live with that, but Nazr's is a no-go.

by Sports2 on Jan 16, 2008 8:40 AM CST up reply actions

Bobcats

I'm just throwing out Jordan because he's one GM that I think is dumb enough to make stupid player personnel moves.

I think the Bobcats really like Matt Carroll. He went from D-League to a really healthy contract. Azibuke is well on his way to a similar deal the way he is playing for Golden State.

Wallace's deal is front loaded. He gets 500,000 cheaper each season. That may help a handful of teams to get under the cap, but at 14.5 and 14 mil it is a real longshot.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 8:56 AM CST up reply actions

I agree with the buyout

...as long as we are not able to deal him before the trade deadline. It's pretty clear that the only reason that we play Wallace is because of his contract. Therefore, since he adds nothing, and takes away from the development of noah/tyrus/gray etc... It's time for him to go. Even if his bought out contract still counts against the cap, it would at least be a reduced figure, and with his descending cap number, the final year of his deal wouldn't be too bad. Not an ideal situation, but we're better without him.

by dcarioca on Jan 16, 2008 9:08 AM CST up reply actions

Don't buy him out...

then he can just sign with a contender and actually try. If he can't be traded make him sit at home like Tim Thomas.

by JeffD on Jan 16, 2008 8:32 AM CST up reply actions

Joakim Noah on Mike North's show this morning

http://www.670thescore.com/episode_download.php?contentType=36&contentId=1295483

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 8:42 AM CST reply actions

I cant hear it because I'm at work

anything worthwhile?

I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith

by tyrus4prez on Jan 16, 2008 8:45 AM CST up reply actions

a short this and that interview

Noah says most of the right things.
"I love the coach(Boylan although Noah never uses the name Boylan at all)."

paraphrasing..."I don't really miss Skiles, but he taught me things."

The real juice is the last minute of the interview. North asks Noah if Deng had to step in between him and Wallace in the locker room. Noah laughs it off, but he doesn't actually deny that it happened.

by NBA Observer on Jan 16, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions