Bulls think noah is a championship center?

by haze on Aug 9, 2007 2:22 PM CDT Comment 42 comments

I might be the biggest noah supporter on the site but even I was surprised when i saw this.

cameron, chi: Do you think Joakim Noah will emerge to fill Ben Wallace's shoes in the coming years, or will he always be more of an energy guy off the bench?

SportsNation David Thorpe: I'll quote a Bulls scout, whom I spoke with on Father's Day (before the draft) about whether Noah could fall to #10; "We think he is starting center for a Championship Team good".

Thats pretty high praise for this "energy guy". im telling you the kid is good. If you liked TT you are going to LOVE noah!

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"severely injured shoulder"

calling K.C. Johnson! WTF?

by hscs on Aug 9, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*paging K.C. Johnson!

Word was Jo Noah didn't even need to have surgery. I hope Thorpe is just pimping Noah as a tough guy.

by hscs on Aug 9, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Best defender?

On a team with Tyrus Thomas? I guess he said "could become", but I'd put Deng behind Thomas now... and don't envision Deng progressing more than Thomas on that respect.

Anyone agree? Disagree?

Yes, of course.

by tyger1147 on Aug 9, 2007 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guess it depends on how you define defense

Ty's exciting and great at the stuff that shows up in the boxscore - not sure how you want to compare that with stuff like ball denial, good positioning, not fouling excessively, etc.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Aug 9, 2007 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Deng?

I'd put Deng behind Wallace and Hinrich, too. Anybody remember what Prince did to Deng a few months ago?...

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by bullshooter on Aug 9, 2007 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tyrus

Is a great defender statistically because people change their attempts from high-percentage layups to mid range jump shots when he patrols the paint. In that way, without even doing anything, he affects how the other side plays the game.

Get that out of Tyrus' House!!!!

by cubbybear on Aug 10, 2007 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

llliiiiinnnnkkk

please.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 9, 2007 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

link

here

Just Opinions

by Option27 on Aug 9, 2007 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love reading Thorpe's chats

He spends most of his time on their talking Bulls basketball and hyping up Deng and Thomas, and now Noah.

Just Opinions

by Option27 on Aug 9, 2007 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Thorpe, too

probably mostly because he likes the Bulls (like Hollinger and Abbott), but I can remember reading most of his stuff and thinking that he's a level-headed, basketball-savvy guy. What does everyone else think? Smart guy or just in love with some of the Bulls' players?

by stevekerrsfloppyhair on Aug 9, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Noah working out yet?

Or is he still completely inactive due to the shoulder?

Seeing Noah in action may provide an incentive to attend pre-season games.

by 1958ChiTown on Aug 9, 2007 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure

Noah will play the preseason

Just Opinions

by Option27 on Aug 9, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was never completely inactive

He's been running, and re-habbing the shoulder. There's been no update on it. the beat writers really don't work much in the summer, and Sam Smith doesn't work after the draft until the fall. Unless something big goes down.

by KT on Aug 9, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks.

by 1958ChiTown on Aug 9, 2007 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have very

high hopes for Joakim. Funny he wasn't impressed with TT from the summer league when TT only played in what 3 games and made first team honors. I guess it's just one man's opinion tho.

by sue369 on Aug 9, 2007 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

offense is issue

I think he is just not sold on TT at offense end, he seems to love his activity and athletisism just like most people

by NY Chicago Fan on Aug 9, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love the Noah love

What will be will be. Let the games begin.

No more trades -- let 'em get after it!

by preverbal on Aug 9, 2007 9:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thorpe is solid

He knows his stuff. He was training kevin martin when he first came into the league and he was saying how martin was going to be a player. Nobody believed him but then martin blows up and thorpe looks like a genius. He did the same thing with David Lee too. He knows his basketball and he doesn't mess around with crap like "would a trade of kobe bryant for andrew bogut and bobby simmons work under the cap?"

by haze on Aug 10, 2007 6:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Noah & the future

First off this slow summer is driving me nuts, I need football & basketball to start.

I love what Paxson has done, and I cannot wait to watch this team next year and for years to come. Im going on record and say the Bulls will be in the finals next year. I cannot wait to watch Deng, Tyrus, & Noah on the court at the same time for as an athletic front court on a fast break.

Then, sub Noce for Deng and watch them all fight over lose balls. Also, Ben won't have to play so many minutes, and he can be more effective.

by Jesse07 on Aug 10, 2007 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

More Noah

what a loveable scamp:

In the middle of the gym, Noah isn't thinking about photo shoots. He's getting schooled by a 7-year-old one-third Noah's height, in EA Sports' "NBA Live 08."

"Let's see if you can beat me with my own team," Noah says to the kid, who picks the Bulls while Noah picks the Suns.

A crowd of fans and rookies watch in awe as the kid comes back from a 10-point deficit for the win. All Noah can do is complain about the referees.

"What kind of call was that? That's that ref, that's that ref," Noah says, presumably referring to Tim Donaghy.

I can see one benefit to Noah being so gregarious being that the media can swarm to him while Tyrus fumes and scowls by his lonesome. That way everybody wins.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 10, 2007 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the fuming and scowling

didn't get enough attention last season. Sam Smith wasted at least 50 words on retelling the incident involving Thabo Sefolosha, brownie points, and dirty uniforms on the locker room floor (Tyrus doesn't pick them up, what a jerkwad!) in his famous don't disrespect the dunk contest and nerdy reporters like me column.

by hscs on Aug 10, 2007 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I find the scowling admirable

I was being somewhat serious.

If Noah provides the quotes then nobody will care if Tyrus doesn't, and they shouldn't anyway. If Tyrus needs to be jerky to the media as (part of) a way to motivate himself, then it's fine by me.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 10, 2007 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was reliving the lowest

point in Sam Smithstory. Noah should deflect plenty from the downer duo of Thomas and Wallace. He'll probably repeat a lot Paxskiles rhetoric, but it should be more interesting than Hinrich, Deng, and Gordon repeating Paxskiles rhetoric. I always thought the outwardly dull personalities on the team heavily influenced the opinion that it's boring basketball too.

by hscs on Aug 10, 2007 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thomas not such a bad guy

I interned for a sports television station in which one of my jobs one day was to interview Tyrus at Bulls camp this year.....he really wasn't a bad guy at all. He just comes off as being young and his own age (20). I asked around to reporters who said he wasn't the greatest but there's far worse players out there. When I needed to get a few soundbites from him he was honest and did his duty and that was it. I couldn't really complain.

by Othellas Mustache on Aug 10, 2007 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's pretty much my opinion too

Although I've never meet the guy. The age thing was my default Thomas defense.

by hscs on Aug 10, 2007 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In Tyrus' defense

I would say that he has relatively little experience in dealing with the media. He was not highly recruited out of high school and Big Baby got more attention on that LSU team. He might always be a little surly, but hopefully as he deals with the media more he will learn to give a better interview.

by stevekerrsfloppyhair on Aug 10, 2007 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

poop

link

The path is clear for Joakim Noah to play his international basketball for France after the 22-year-old was officially made a French citizen.

Nationalism can be a good thing (WWI is probably a bad example), but this is getting ridiculous. Something catastrophic could happen to the roster during the offseason.

by hscs on Aug 10, 2007 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Is he a duel citizen then?

Or triple citizen? Love the hyperbole, though.

Yes, of course.

by tyger1147 on Aug 10, 2007 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

he's probably a dual citizen, though.

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by bullshooter on Aug 10, 2007 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hyperbole is okay

if you compare an ideological cause of WWI to playing for a national basketball team beforehand. If you're going to take all my comments literally I suggest you don't read them at all.

by hscs on Aug 10, 2007 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I said I loved it.

And I acknowledged it was hyperbole. Maybe you should take my comments more literally. It was a compliment, jackass.

Yes, of course.

by tyger1147 on Aug 10, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still waiting

I'd really like a more nuanced definition of the term "duel citizen." Does this relate specifically to basketball "duels," or just any jingoistic competitive arena?

by jpx7 on Aug 15, 2007 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

crud

Eh, maybe I should just sing my cares away, and reason that they're not going to be in hyberbaric chambers all offseason. Some competitive basketball isn't the worst thing to be doing.

But with Noah and Nocioni, it's the case of (likely) pushing injuries. Hell, France doesn't even need Noah to qualify.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 10, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's not playing this year yet with France.

No worries !

The Game chose him !

by Diabolo on Aug 13, 2007 4:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell, Steve Nash is playing pick-up

soccer games in Central Park all summer:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/10/sports/basketball/10nash.html

I am sure the Suns love his offseason routine.

by 1958ChiTown on Aug 10, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He can be...

... a jerk all he wants to the media as long as he stays out of trouble off the court and produces on the court. (I hope he's not a total ass though)

I like his chip-on-the-shoulder approach. I loved watching him stand toe-to-toe with guys like rip hamilton and nate robinson. It's about time we had some attitude on this team. I'm sure Wallace has it too but no one is stupid enough to step up to him.

A guy like Gordon would probably just walk away and say something like, "Well, I let my game do the talking.. I don't need to sink to that level..."
You can talk a little trash, it doesn't hurt.

by Hiryu on Aug 10, 2007 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Here is a nice article on

Luol's continued improvement:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/ian_thomsen/08/10/deng/index.html

by 1958ChiTown on Aug 10, 2007 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

P.S. Here is a really encouraging

quote from Luol concerning how he wants to expand his game:

"For GB this summer I'm playing the 1, 2 and 3, so I'm really loving the fact that I'm handling the ball so much,'' he says. "Drawing fouls is going to be a big factor, and so is improving my three-point range and playing in the post. I'm great at moving without the ball, but I'm talking about the last five seconds when you get the ball in your hands or you get the ball in an iso -- those kinds of things I have to improve on, because that's what great players do.''

by 1958ChiTown on Aug 10, 2007 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs