Noah out for Summer League

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2007 10:49 PM CDT in News

Trib (no KC Johnson?):

Before taking the dais with second-round draft picks Aaron Gray and JamesOn Curry at a Monday afternoon news conference at the Berto Center, Noah had his ailing right rotator cuff examined by [Team physician Brian] Cole.

The Bulls will hold their lottery pick out of summer-league action in both Orlando and Salt Lake City, taking a conservative approach with an injury over which they hold no long-term concerns.

"He'll travel to be part of the experience, but he's just going to get treatment because we're going to rest it for the next month so he has his best chance moving forward," general manager John Paxson said. "(Surgery) is a last resort. Our doctors are confident if we go this approach, he'll be fine."

The Bulls, like all teams, viewed magnetic resonance imaging tests of what is believed to be a slight tear in the shoulder before last Thursday's draft. That Noah accepted all predraft workouts while in pain pleased rather than put off Bulls management.

"A lot of guys shy away from those things," Paxson said. "I think you can tell he's about winning and competing."

(I have a feeling we won't read any Pax/Skiles quotes this summer without the word 'winner' in them. Luckily for them the team is winning, so it doesn't come off as eye-roll-inducing as it could.)

Here's Noah on the injury:

"I don't think (surgery) is the first option. They want to see how it is with rehab. I did three weeks of rehab in Los Angeles when I was working out with (noted trainer) Joe Abunassar. My shoulder actually felt a lot better. But with the draft process that's going on and flying from team to team and competing, I didn't have time to do any of the rehab. I was in pain all the time. I just wanted to show teams I was ready to compete and a little problem in my shoulder wasn't going to stop me from playing."

Kindof a bummer regarding summer league, hopefully the shoulder heals with plenty of time before training camp so they can make him shoot 2000 jump shots a day. Before being able to enter the Mike Sweetney memorial cafetorium.

There's video of Monday's press conference here (under the 'what's new' tab)

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Summer league is bs anyways.

My evil side says their holding him out for a trade.

I hope for Noah but I expect Hawes.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jul 2, 2007 10:55 PM CDT reply actions

I hope he sticks though.

I hope for Noah but I expect Hawes.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jul 2, 2007 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions

this sucks

I was hoping for an undefeated summer team thanks to some twin towers action. Who doesn't want to see the Andre Barrets of tomorrow get all their shots swatted away?

Someone ask Bears' Grand Wizard Jerry Angelo why Kyle Orton is still employed.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jul 2, 2007 10:58 PM CDT reply actions

summer league

when do we get to find out who is playing on the bulls summer league roster?

by Sambossanova on Jul 2, 2007 11:10 PM CDT reply actions

you really care?

Sefo and Tyrus thats all you have to know. Oh Gray and Curry.

I hope for Noah but I expect Hawes.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jul 2, 2007 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions

They shoot the video from the

rafters of the gym with my Uncles camcorder from 1985.

I hope for Noah but I expect Hawes.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jul 2, 2007 11:14 PM CDT reply actions

for those of you who follow summer league...

I've never followed it before so excuse my ignorance. But for those who have, I'm curious: Do draft picks (especially the high ones) always participate? And when do they stop participating? If Thabo & Tyrus are in it, how talented (or how many seasons' experience) do you have to get before a team stops asking/expecting you to play? And how helpful is it in developing one or more of that player's skills?

Guess it offers a summer fix for the basketball junkie. How useful is it for the fan to evaluate a player? And where do you go to keep up with summer-league action?

by T Maple on Jul 3, 2007 7:30 AM CDT reply actions

Summer league

Draft pick usually participate. Sometimes when a team is happy with what they see of a certain player. They will hold them out towards the end to prevent injury. I believe Thabo only played the first couple last year; it allowed for more shots for Tyrus. The only words last year that could be used to describe Tyrus's play is an "athletic chucker".

by Jesse07 on Jul 3, 2007 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions

I believe

Thabo sustained an injury and was brought back to Chicago for treatment during the summer games last year.

I'm excited to see what the rooks can do.

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2007 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions

Last year

TT and Thabo both participated. I think most of the other top players drafted played too. I watched the games on line. I enjoyed watching to see what TT and Thabo could do.

I can't remember what site had the streamline for the games. I'm too lazy to go back and look it up.

I'm excited to see what the rooks can do.

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2007 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Web-site

I think the summer league games were streamed online via the hosting city's team web-site. I believe last year the Bulls participated in Orlando, and there was a link on magic.com that directed you toward the streamed games.

In Pax We Trust! DAAA BULLS!

by RingItUp26 on Jul 3, 2007 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

orlandomagic.com, that is.

http://www.nba.com/magic/

In Pax We Trust! DAAA BULLS!

by RingItUp26 on Jul 3, 2007 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Direct link to the Summer League site

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/07summerleague.html

In Pax We Trust! DAAA BULLS!

by RingItUp26 on Jul 3, 2007 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Second year participation

seems to depend on how much PT the player got their rookie year. In addition to the Pepsi Pro summer league, hosted by the Orlando magic, Bulls are also doing the Rockie Mountain Revue, hosted by the Jazz. I believe it's the week of the 16th.

The schedule is up for the Orlando league, but teams aren't posted yet. I imagine the Bulls are still trying to round up people to fill out the team.

"They had me do a psychology test and I asked Coach Skiles if that affected his coaching. He laughed and said, `No way.'" (Joakim Noah)

by wjb1492 on Jul 3, 2007 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Players rehabbing from an injury

will participate sometimes. I seem to remember that Shane Battier played a third year of summer ball to rehab an injury. Summer league's a joke, mostly. Some guy always cleans up and then doesn't make camp a few weeks later, but it's a decent fix for junkies like us.

by Old Skool Sloan on Jul 3, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions

little Joe

Abunussar cracks me up. When I lived in Bloomington, he was based down there for a few years. I remember him training some low-level talent in the IU rec-center prior to drafts. The funny thing about Joe is that he's like 5'3'', seriously. You'd think a basketball trainer would at least be 5'9''.

by CookDing on Jul 3, 2007 8:32 AM CDT reply actions

I really

hope they keep Noah. I think he will be a fan favorite and I like his personality.

SportsNite had a one on one interview with him at 10 p.m. last night. I looked to see if it was on the CSN site but it's not.

I'm excited to see what the rooks can do.

by sue369 on Jul 3, 2007 8:53 AM CDT reply actions

I recoreded it.

He's interview by Mark Sninowski shinowski Mark Schanowski.

I hope for Noah but I expect Hawes.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jul 3, 2007 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

I really

hope they trade him as part of a deal for someone better.

Obama 2008 Obama 2012

by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Jul 3, 2007 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions

They are contemplating surgery?

As I understand it, rotator cuff surgery is relatively major and can sideline a player for months?

The injury sounds more serious than I had anticipated. It's rather disheartening that he will miss summer league play. While the league itself is meaningless, it is great experience for rookies and tends to accelerate their development. In Noah's case, though, missing summer league is probably less damaging because he spent an extra year in college.

Still, I don't like the specter of an injury hovering over Noah. The Bulls must have done their due diligence, though.

by 1958ChiTown on Jul 3, 2007 10:35 AM CDT reply actions

I think it depends

on whether you have open or arthroscopic surgery.

Also, the extent of the injury of course.

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Jul 3, 2007 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions

good call

yep...not to turn into House or anything but...

Because arthroscopic surgery requires only limited surgical access, the incision is much smaller than is necessary for open surgery, resulting in fewer risks. The patient's recovery time is also shorter.

However, because repairing a torn rotator cuff can be a complicated procedure, it is often performed as an open procedure. However, arthroscopic repairs are becoming more common, especially for small size tears.

http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/Rotator-Cuff-Tear/RCI_recover.html

by ScottieCartwright on Jul 3, 2007 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Rotator cuff tears usually heal

by themselves. I'm sure none of you remember my concern over Nocioni's plantar fasciitis. This is not a big concern and should heal on it's own. That being said you are always concerned about the wear and tear of a full NBA season on a rookie.

by chgobr on Jul 3, 2007 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions

mine did.

I hope for Noah but I expect Hawes.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jul 3, 2007 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions

seriousness

i think they are more serious for throwing atheletes-ie-QB's and Pitchers, where they can be potentially devestating and, in most cases, are season ending. It's a bit easier, in my understanding, to get away with this sort of injury in Basketball.

by CookDing on Jul 3, 2007 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions

How can you not like Noah?

After watching the video, he definitely says all the right things:

(paraphrasing)

Reporter: You were very animated and a team leader at Florida. When you're coming into a new situation like this that already has established leaders, are you going to do the same thing?

Noah: Well, I'd like to be myself. But to me, winning is the most important thing. If coach thinks I'm hurting the team by being myself, I'll change. I'll calm down. Winning is important to me.

He's not the answer the Bulls were looking for, but I firmly believe he was the best they could have got outside of Oden/Durant/Horford.

Yes, of course.

by tyger1147 on Jul 3, 2007 11:41 AM CDT reply actions

yyger1147 - I love Noah'srsponse to that question.

Everything I read about him is that we landed a winner. The extent of his basketball contribution remains to be seen. It does seem that we have a good, goofy, fun guy on our team. The emphasis is on good.

by chgobr on Jul 3, 2007 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Sorry tyger1147 about miss-spelling your name

by chgobr on Jul 3, 2007 11:50 AM CDT reply actions

Isn't everyone happy we are not talking

about HAWES!!!!!!!!!!

by Jesse07 on Jul 3, 2007 12:23 PM CDT reply actions

I think

Aaron Gray will have a better career than Hawes

by eross226 on Jul 3, 2007 12:35 PM CDT reply actions

Anyone watching the summer league . .

Notice one main thing.

Tyrus actually makes his jumpers in these games.

I remember watching last year and he would frequently hit them.

I saw a said of him that I never knew was there. Of course, during the regular season and playoffs, I saw what I expected the whole time.

Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

by Option27 on Jul 3, 2007 1:25 PM CDT reply actions

I remember most of the them were pull up jumpers

on the break. I think it's easier for him to have consistent form taking the shot off the dribble. I want to see what a year in the NBA did for Tyrus.

by Scotter on Jul 3, 2007 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions