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Get Yi Out of My House!

In a not-so-surprising move by Yi's former Chinese basketball team, they are attempting to block his move to the Milwaukee Bucks, which was threatened before the draft by both the team and his agent team, as I recall.  They stressed private workouts only in Los Angeles, and said that he could only go to the Bulls and Golden State.

Yi, taken by Milwaukee with the sixth selection in the NBA draft last month, would "definitely not" play for Milwaukee, Tuesday's Beijing News quoted Guangdong Tigers chief, Chen Haitao, as saying.

They cite the depth chart as the cause for concern, but truthfully it's likely the minute Asian-American community that really ruffles their feathers.

Chen expressed concern that Yi would have trouble getting playing time with the Bucks, whose squad boasts Australian 7-footer Andrew Bogut and a number of other tall young players.

The only way this relates to the Bulls is as a possible second or third team involved with moving him to a different squad.  I would be curious to know how much they would stick to their Bay Area or Chicago choice, but at this point those may not be options anymore.  Our frontcourt has a lot of depth, but if we traded Noah and someone else(Sweetney?) for Yi, then that could work out for his team officials, though in my mind Tyrus or he can never play Center, and so he's a backup unless he unseats Tyrus, which at the moment seems difficult to do.

I don't know much about the team's rights, but this is straight out of the Eli Manning bag of tricks, and that worked out poorly for the guy, so I can't imagine that they want him just anywhere else, they probably have someplace in mind.

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Just do it.
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You must be crazy!
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First.....
the Bulls don't have Sweets under contract, so it'd have to be part of a sign and trade.  Second, why would the Bucks want Lard Ass?

Third, how exactly did Eli Manning's thing work out poorly for him?  He went to the team he wanted and got a lot of cash.

Just like Matt says, teh Internets are serious business!!!1!1!

by Colossus on Jul 17, 2007 1:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eli
I'm sure he is pointing out Eli's less then steller playoff results.  And who would you rather QB San Diego with LT and Gates and better defense or the Giants ... wait this is a Bulls blog, sorry fantasy football coming up has me excited

by NY Chicago Fan on Jul 17, 2007 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might be mistaken,
but neither the Giants nor Chargers have won a playoff game since then.
Just like Matt says, teh Internets are serious business!!!1!1!

by Colossus on Jul 17, 2007 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When a team is backed in a corner
like Milwaukee, they're never going to trade him inside the division.  They aren't going to want to play him 4 times/year.  If he gets traded, he's going west.

by Scotter on Jul 17, 2007 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Golden State
We all know Golden State has wanted Yi all along and Brandan Wright isn't sure if he's going to be playing in the Bay Area:
It might be months before Wright learns if he's here to stay.

"Until you actually get on the court, you don't know what's going to happen," Wright said. "Right now, it seems like everything's in place, but if I were to be traded, it would be one of those things. A business decision."


Does something like B. Wright plus Matt Barnes (S&T) and Jasikevicius for Yi and spare parts/contracts sound reasonable?

by paxson43 on Jul 17, 2007 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS
"If he gets traded, he's going west."  You're breaking O27's heart.

by paxson43 on Jul 17, 2007 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This subject keeps sticking around!
I can't take it!
Remember a healthy Nocioni, the one you loved.

by Option27 on Jul 17, 2007 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is pshhhhhhhhhhhbwwaaaaaaaaaa?
Milwaukee should never have drafted Ji.  They should have taken Corey Brewer or if they wanted a big, Noah.  They were given every possible clue that this could turn into a big problem.  Buck management just plain goofed!

by chgobr on Jul 17, 2007 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree
the Bucks deserve to get the best value for their pick, and shouldn't assume Yi would hijack the draft process despite his handlers proclamations between workouts against furniture.

That said they should likely cut bait, and methinks they're just waiting for the 30 days when 1st round picks who signed become tradeable, and they can probably get a pretty good deal for him. If they can't get a good deal they should hold him hostage like his people are doing to their team.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 17, 2007 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any chance the Bulls
are interested? That's all I would hope for
Just Opinions

by Option27 on Jul 17, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::shrug::
I dunno. His summerleague performance makes him seem too much a project to fit in with the rest of Pax's 'win now' moves.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 17, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and speaking of projects...
Most pro onlookers like Hawes' package of skills for a 7-footer, but many who watched him in Vegas think he is still very much in the prospect phase. He needs to learn the nuances of NBA defense, especially as it relates to the pick-and-roll. Plus he got awfully shot happy in Vegas, taking 45 more than any other King, from everywhere. Of those he made just 44 percent, low for a big man, and almost never got to the foul line in a whistle-plagued league.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=vegasnoteswrapup

by ScottieCartwright on Jul 17, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Yi seems like a project and Bulls don't need another young player.  Need to let Thomas / Deng / Noah / Thabo progress

by NY Chicago Fan on Jul 17, 2007 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other problem with Yi
is that his handlers would cause problems for the Bulls as they are for the Bucks.  Can you see Skiles  pulling Yi when he doesn't defend and then his handlers get all upset Yi isn't getting enough minutes?  Noah more and more looks good to me.

by chgobr on Jul 17, 2007 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,
their excuse for not wanting him there is because they have too many 'tall guys' and he won't get playing time. Thing is, other than Bogut, the only 7 footer and plays center, not Yi's position, and Charlie V, who is 6'11" and is always hurt, that's a very lame excuse. It is because of the small market. Anywhere he goes he will have to wait for minutes. He's not LeBron, he won't be the face of the franchise for a while, if at all, and he's raw still.
-
Now, to answer your question, once he signs a contract with the Bulls, or any other team, the Chinese Gov/Team can't do much but deal with him getting benched alot until he's a free agent, unless they buy him out.
The Future is bright!

by Goostafer on Jul 17, 2007 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Yi saga is going to be interesting
this summer.  I still think Milwaukee made a huge mistake drafting him.  

by chgobr on Jul 17, 2007 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for who
sweetney would not work but a noah, duhon, future 2nd rounder might do the trick. Where will they get a better offer

by Blacknight23 on Jul 17, 2007 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Bulls have enough
big guys without any inside game.
Just like Matt says, teh Internets are serious business!!!1!1!

by Colossus on Jul 17, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy is awesome
He can score some insane
Just Opinions

by Option27 on Jul 17, 2007 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Floppity Floppity Flop Flop Flop
That is all.
Just like Matt says, teh Internets are serious business!!!1!1!

by Colossus on Jul 17, 2007 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yi
Has an outside game because he can shoot from the outside and can dribble a little bit. More importantly, if you put small defenders on him, Yi posts up and backs them down (he ahs to get stronger and improve upon this).  When you put a big guy, he is way too quick for them to guard him.  He has a lot better footwork down low than anyone on the bulls right now and better than almost anyone in the draft except horford, maybe hawes and maybe Oden.

by Sambossanova on Jul 17, 2007 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally OT
When are the schedules usually released?

I think last year it came out at then beginning of August?

Just Opinions

by Option27 on Jul 17, 2007 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope
the Bucks let him rot in China. They dont need him.

by LD9 on Jul 17, 2007 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

IF
they didn't need him why draft him?

by Blacknight23 on Jul 17, 2007 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know why
but they have some decent depth at the 4 and 5. They should have taken Brewer who fills there biggest need (swingman who can defend).

by LD9 on Jul 17, 2007 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be a best case scenario
Milwaukee gets zilch for a #6 pick in a loaded draft and doesn't get any better.  And the Chinese don't get to jerk around the NBA.  I feel kind of bad for Yi though.
Need new sig

by bullshooter on Jul 17, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't they still own his draft rights?
Like every other NBA player? Yeah, they don't get him this year, but they're still young.
Yes, of course.

by tyger1147 on Jul 17, 2007 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Yi isn't under contract with another team
somewhere else in the world, he can put himself back in the draft next year.
Just like Matt says, teh Internets are serious business!!!1!1!

by Colossus on Jul 17, 2007 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Larry Harris
might get fired for this one. Didnt he trade TJ Ford for Charlie V? Isn't he a YI type player? Drafting YI didn't make sense then and it doesn't know. Your right Brewer would have made a great pick since it seems mil is going to hand Desmond Mason some serious change.

by Blacknight23 on Jul 17, 2007 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not many Bucks fans
were upset with the TJ Ford trade.  There's not a heck of a lot of difference between TJ and Mo, in the long run.

And TJ is very, very, very fragile.

And Harris doesn't do anything without Kohl's involvment.  Kohl picked Stotts as coach over Harris's objections.

by KT on Jul 17, 2007 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can't do that
The Milwaukee Bucks have already drafted him and own his rights.  It's just like Luis Scola's rights were owned by the Spurs for all these years.  He can't go back in the draft.

by bigballa10 on Jul 17, 2007 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he can
re-enter the draft next year if he doesn't play in the NBA. He's not signed by the Bucks
The Future is bright!

by Goostafer on Jul 17, 2007 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as colossus said above
it's not just the NBA, he can't play professionally anywhere in the world if he wants to re-enter the draft.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 17, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot that, yes
not Pro... i think Pro, and I think NBA.
The Future is bright!

by Goostafer on Jul 17, 2007 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute
Are you guys saying that he could re-enter the draft next year as long as he doesn't sign with another team, even though he has already been drafted?  I've never heard of that.  Are there any known incidents of this happening?

by bigballa10 on Jul 17, 2007 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Part of it's his age
They claim he's under 22, so if he doesn't play, and isn't under contract, he could enter the draft.

Stern could tell China they don't believe he's under 22.  And the whole contract thing would be a tough sell since it's his Chinese team that's running things.  

It's a mess.

by KT on Jul 17, 2007 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found this at Celticsblog.com via Matt
michael32951 said:
      I think the Celtics are still targeting Yi, I own a company which imports from China and know they like to control the distribution of their products, the request they made about where Yi would go was a requirement not a suggestion, it can be negotiated but they rairly change their minds. If Yi is not traded he won't get a visa and the 6th pick will be wasted, people forget China is still a communist country.
July 09, 2007

by chgobr on Jul 17, 2007 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yi
Isnt he still signed by the Guandong Tigers for next year.  How long is his contract?

by Sambossanova on Jul 17, 2007 11:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Reason the Bucks Got Him Was...
...To...

A)Make Headlines

B)Make People attend to watch the controversy

C)Keep Yi from playing anywhere else

D)Make Yi and the chinese govt pay by thinking they can control the draft so much

and finally ...

E) Just to piss everyone (expect for the comish) off

actually i can see this being part of sterns plot, i mean the audacity of the chinese to think they can come in and act like they are some big dogs in sterns draft....OH NO THEY D'INT!!!!
Im sure the bucks got some extra cash or something from stern for carrying out his dirty work....

im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Jul 18, 2007 12:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what?
Yi knew the rules of the draft and went ahead and put himself in it. I do not feel sorry for him and he is acting like a big baby. I do not want him on the Bulls team.

by sue369 on Jul 19, 2007 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
I hope Yi is a huge bust and will always chear against him no matter what team he is on.

by NY Chicago Fan on Jul 19, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find this situation incredible.
In the article above it states there isn't great interest in Yi by other teams putting Milwaukee in a deeper bind.

by chgobr on Jul 19, 2007 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF...
The intrest in Yi has diminished at all, i believe it is due to this little soap opera. I dont think any team would want to draft yi, since you unwillingly also end up drafting the chinese govt. That must suck for yi, no one is really looking at what skills he brings to the table, but everyone can see what baggage he brings.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Jul 20, 2007 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

likewise
he also knew that if u dont like the team you can sit out professionally for a year and enter your name again

by milesgmsu on Jul 20, 2007 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever.
Milwaukee knew the possible problems, too. They acted like they had no idea none of this would happen. It isn't Yi against the Bucks. It's a league against a nation (sort of). Yi isn't cheating. He's not breaking the rules.

It's a business. And one with rules and not just "ethics" that can be construed to fit one's needs. He's not breaking the rules. He's not doing anything wrong. It's not like similar things don't happen to lesser talents in the late 1st and second rounds multiple times every single year.

Yes, of course.

by tyger1147 on Jul 21, 2007 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's
not that good anyway. Believe me, I get to watch a number of CBA games in ESPN here in the Philippines. Not really impressed.Wang even kicked his ass--Wang for chrissake!

He's bound to be a big time bust. Yao is a Chinese freak of nature. It'll be decades since another Asian could be that good in the NBA.

by Ronald on Jul 20, 2007 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Knowing he didn't want to go to Milwaukee
and not sure about his NBA talent - - how could Milwaukee have been so dumb to choose him.  I'm also glad the Bulls didn't take him.

by chgobr on Jul 21, 2007 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another reason I'm glad the Bulls didn't draft him
"The Guangdong Tigers may be leveraging and posturing like any agent would, just to try to frustrate the Bucks," Harrison explained. "But the Bucks have to talk to Chen with the understanding that a certain percentage of his salary will go to his club."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=635929

The Tigers may want a percentage of his salary.  I'm sure Paxson would prefer to avoid this complication.

by chgobr on Jul 21, 2007 6:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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