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Pax help us all.
I can't imagine liking this pick as recently as a few weeks ago, but lets focus on the good things that Noah does. He's 7 feet. He can man-defend the center position, good help defender and shotblocker, and on offense he can run, pass, catch and finish.
That's a pretty good player, and that's not going into the intangibles like his 'proven winner' status.
There's also those negative intangibles, such as: he's annoying as hell.
But hey, they're equally unimportant in my eyes.
The way the top ten unfolded was all pointing towards Noah. The only way you can be really upset over this pick is if you thought Spencer Hawes was something special. I don't know if he is, and Pax thought he wasn't. Hawes and Noah worked out against eachother, so I'm guessing a lot was learned then about both.
But Yi and Brendan Wright were gone. Jeff Green and Corey Brewer were gone. It may have been a case with those other guys, but I can't see a time in the future when an NBA team is kicking themselves over not taking Spencer Hawes. Not that he can't or won't be good, but he's not some uber-upside chance that was there for the taking. Sure Pax went safe, but to me it was a safe pick with no real good risks to be taken.
And as a semi-impatient fan, at least we know what we're getting with Noah. This team gets even better on defense, gets size(!), and can really really run on offense. Shotblocking, rebounding, and bigs running the floor are crucial to a high-paced offense, and what better frontcourt mates for that then Ben Wallace, Tyrus Thomas, and Joakim Noah?
But no, that frontcourt isn't complete. We know they need a low-post scorer, Pax knows they need a low-post scorer. There's still free agency and the possibly nutso sign-and-trades that may follow. The low-post scorer wasn't to be found at #9, so what's wrong with taking a guy you know will immediately fit your team? He's replacing Malik Allen in the rotation for chrissakes.
Even if it will take me a while to get used to rooting for him.
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FWIW
I really wanted Wright to slip, but i'm happy with Noah. One thing to keep in mind: this gives the Bulls more flexibility in dealing Wallace's contract as part of a deal to get a low-post scorer.
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Jun 29, 2007 12:29 AM CDT reply actions
and sooner than that
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
you're back to trading Thomas?
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
sure.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
This outfit goes down in draft history
If he is Pee Wee Herman
6 months?
With that hair
malone had a shitty suit
Free Agents=Undrafteds
by A Train Afro 53 on Jun 29, 2007 12:40 AM CDT reply actions
kyle visser
he got the ladies when he was in HS
Noah's game
by LD9 on Jun 29, 2007 12:54 AM CDT reply actions
Trade machine
Like I said, it isn't really even, but I decided to give it a shot anyways. I hope someone else can come up with a better deal. And no, it doesn't address our need for low-post scoring.
by cliff levingston on Jun 29, 2007 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions
wow...that was bad
by cliff levingston on Jun 29, 2007 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions
minny would never do it
lakers dont get shit in return
Yeah, I know
by cliff levingston on Jun 29, 2007 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
wha?
I WAKE TOMARROW AND LOOKE AT THIS LIKE WHAT THE F**K. IM OUT BRO
I can hear the chimes
I was really getting into the Debate the ESPN
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 1:00 AM CDT reply actions
Take that photo down right now
at least its not
Noah's going to look back someday and be like
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 1:03 AM CDT reply actions
I really like this pick...
As much as the current Bulls played with energy on the court, they were that dull in the locker room for post-game. Noah is going to be a fan favorite as soon as he runs the floor for an and-1 alley oop play or a blocked shot.
by RingItUp26 on Jun 29, 2007 1:12 AM CDT reply actions
If Noah wasn't a freakin Sanjaya wanna be,
100% agree...
Oh yeah.
Who the hell else were they going to take? Spencer Hawes is the ONLY other option--unless you think Julian Wright can be really special and you wanted to trade Luol Deng down the road. Or Acie Law XLVII.
As you said, if Yi (Eeeeeee!!!) or Wright or even Brewer fell... then you think about it. But in the end, this pick was a no-brainer. He was definitely the best player available, and if he fits exactly into what the Bulls are---well, hooo dawg!
Yeah, um...
What else Noah brings Chicago

I guess, but
My point is Noah doesn't have the track record to start talking up everybody on every play. However it's not like the Bulls are full of guys who'd resent it either.
Ok, Tyrus may punch him in the stomach once or twice.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions
also
Of course since switching to ESPN they had to get rid of the blog search and use the general ESPN search, yuck.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
They heart Noah
TrueHoop:
And that involves teammates.
Sekou Smith:
And Noah's as long, lean and athletic as all NBA types love (he's every drip drop of the 6-11, 232 pounds he's listed). So no bones can be made about his physical or emotional makeup, which I'm assuming has led to this relentless assault on Noah's offensive skill set (or lack thereof).
Foolishness, as usual, by those supposedly in the know. Noah's a player. And if someone is brave enough to pass him up for some guy who's a better scorer ... well more power to him.
The Mighty MJD:
And he wears a big blue dress sometimes. Any man with the courage to leave the house like that... deserves some respect. He also blew a kiss at the UW-Milwaukee band at the end of the last game... they had been shit-talking him all game long, and he responded by torching the Panthers and blowing a kiss at the band. Hard not to like that.

Right on
by goldengod on Jun 29, 2007 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions
hawes
by Sambossanova on Jun 29, 2007 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Skiles has the same politics as Hawes
by LD9 on Jun 29, 2007 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
ah the poor liberal mind
by wheatfield mike on Jun 29, 2007 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
classical skile sarcasim?
I remember
by corey williams corey benjamin on Jul 1, 2007 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
without photographic evidence
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
what r they saying
Jokequeen will be Jokequeen
To play the PF he has to make contested 12-15 footers, which isn't happening because his perimiter shot is a side-spinning wide open 10 footer. His main offense will be jump-hooks and put-backs, but he won't be a liability because of height, soon to come strength, and yes, he does have offensive talent and will be a good maybe great scorer within 6 feet of the basket.
When Joakim reaches his prime he will be a mix of Ben Wallace and Marcus Camby, a great intense defender but won't have the perimiter jump shot. Prime years stats will probably be 13PPG 11RPG 3APG 2.5BPG. Just because he looks goofy doesn't mean he can't play. Don't even compare him to Anderflop Varejao; Noah will actually play on offense and defense instead of mimicking a netted trout.
Bulls get an "A" for the draft. They didn't make any stupid trades and got the absolute most they could get from the #9. They got some random guard, and surprisingly they got Aaron Gray, who some thought could be a top-15 pick. He may be a pasty stiff, but he will be a good practice dummy for T-Time to practice his T-Bags on. Maybe there's a team out there stupid enough to trade for him.
Haw-Hawes, the joke's on you. Check back later when he's playing pro ball in a wooden gym somewhere in the foothills of Spain.
by vlad001 on Jun 29, 2007 2:12 AM CDT reply actions
If he can be the player he was 2 years ago
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 2:25 AM CDT reply actions
About Noah's partying:
we drafted
but its even odds
The bigger the character issues,
right
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Curry
by Mike Aparicio on Jun 29, 2007 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was
Anyway - that's what the second round is for, taking chances on players. What you don't do is draft a guy who screws over his teammates, refuses workouts, at 15 - like the Nets. Outside of slugging a GM, was there anything Sean Williams could have done to not be first rounder?
by Freethefro on Jun 29, 2007 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
6 felonies
good get
Picking at nine, to get a guy that mirrors Al Horford statistically, Noah was a great pick.
Hawes will not be any better than Chris Kaman, if that tells you anything.
Plus, I think outside of low-post scoring and/or getting a 'star', this Bulls team's biggest need is some attitude on the court ... any kind of attitude. Don't get me wrong, I love how unflappable we are and all, but we could use a little bit of pizzaz out there to light the fuse when the time is right.
One other benefit is that at least we get to watch Noah annoy other teams and fans rather than be annoyed by him.
Noah/Draft Thoughts:
-At least we get much needed personality, so Sam should be pleased, as well as someone like Lisa Salters...those ESPN/TNT games when they talked to the players at the end of halves and games? Those were painful to watch. Kirk couldn't wait for them to be finished and Little Ben never had anything interesting to say. Noah may strive to have a good half or too just to do one of those, and they'll have to pull him away b/c he'd just keep talking.
-Right away, sooner than training camp perhaps, they should take him aside and tell him to quit with the chest-thumping. A scream or two every 5 games, but no chest-thumping and absolutely no dancing.
-The Brad Sellers comparisons are coming out, but back then the league didn't really know what to do with skinny 7-footers who don't score in the post. Noah will get more out of his talent.
-At this very moment, who is better offensively...Tyrus or Noah? In terms of finishing around the basket and facing up from 10 feet? I honestly don't know.
-They may be young & offensively-challenged, but I do feel better about Noah/Gray over Allen/Sweets/Khryapa.
-Speaking of offense, how reliable is Noah with that shot (I don't watch college basketball)? Does the team work on correcting his form immediately or is it one of those things that it's too late to change and just hope he gets consistent w/ it?
-I'm still hoping for a trade of some kind. Even a modicum of inside scoring. Does this currently assembled unit fare better in a 7-game series against Detroit?
-Speaking of that, the East looks scarier now. I know it doesn't field many sure-fire play-off successes, but the Knicks, Celtics, Hawks, Bucks...those don't look like teams the Bulls can walk into their building and we can just expect a win.
-Sorry for the bullets...I was in an Ira Winderman mood.
Noah should be better than Mikki
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
keep gentle ben
Tyrus V Noah
Miki Moore is pretty good but a different type of player. Much better shooter but much worse defender if you ask me.
by Sambossanova on Jun 29, 2007 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Love The Pick
I was real worried about swagger
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Pax
you can also tell alot
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Our man Joakim
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 9:14 AM CDT reply actions
nice
by NY Chicago Fan on Jun 29, 2007 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
Should be interesting next year with Thomas and Noah to see how much play they get. Hopefully more young legs will take some stress off Wallace. Keeping PJ around for another year for veteran size sounds good if they can't get a post scorer by trade / MLE
I really think Thabo is big key to next season. If he can play well and takes Duhons mins as 1st guard off the bench I think Bulls could be much approved by getting taller, more athletic guy on floor who looks to have some offensive potential
by NY Chicago Fan on Jun 29, 2007 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
hilarious video
can anyone else not wait until we win the 'chip and noah starts dancing like that...
Hate the pick- how about Nick Young?
I wanted Nick Young so the Bulls can stop the midget backcourt experiment. Watch him become a star in Washington.
by mcsaer on Jun 29, 2007 9:23 AM CDT reply actions
It's safe to say Noah
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Anyways he should develope into a better offensive threat than Wallace.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
by Repeat Threepeat on Jun 29, 2007 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
agree
by NY Chicago Fan on Jun 29, 2007 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I also don't like it
I would have passed on Youg but taken one of the talented young players who would have become lottery picks had they stayed in school: Julian Wright, Thaddeus Young, Deaquan Cook. Let them learn and practice with the team and we have depth in case one of HDG is traded.
I know you guys will kill me on this.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
I have to hand it to you
by bullshooter on Jun 29, 2007 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Well to be honest there is not much
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Say no to Zo
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
and yet look at the jordan era
by wheatfield mike on Jun 29, 2007 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Noah and fast paced offense
My 2 Cents
Kirk
BG
Lou
Noah
Wallace
Bring TT and Thabo off the bench for the beginning of the season. If this lineup does not pan out, then look again at the Josh Chill trade;
Kirk
Chill
Lou
Noah
Wallace
Can't believe they drafted another 4. Atlanta will make some moves and it's time for Duhon to go.
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
Also
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1981~2753&teams=30~4
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
where do those comparisons come from?
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry Paxson Jackson
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
slightly better AST-r, but a worse TO-r,
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Kirk is more of a......
have to like the idea of getting more midget-like in the backcourt too.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 29, 2007 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Kirk is better in some ways.
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we Please get off of Kirk's jock
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he has declined alot.
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
This was the best season of his career.
Kirk's going to get better. It's what big PG that can shoot do. A guy like Chris Paul may already have peaked. Wanting Felton over Kirk is just dumb.
penetrating PGs don't win championships???
I'm not saying that Felton is better than Parker but the idea that penetrating pg's don't win championships is just dumb. We dont necessarily need to go after Felton, just a player w/ a similar playing style.
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony Parker
He gets into the lane
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
the reason parker gets into the lane
What about
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
so you're also saying that
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You run the play better
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
the Bulls don't walk it up
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The question is
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
it is his game
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Since he played four years under....
um no
Do you understand
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
with either system
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
defenses were jumping the high pick already
What's your point?
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Parker
Parker's a great player, but he's not a classic set-up artist.
by jamestkirk on Jun 29, 2007 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
good 'ol DR
Ok
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the picks... Now What?
Noah, even though he has no offense, will still help us on the boards. Think about how Detroit manhandled us in that series. And we had no quality bigs after Wallace, PJ, and Ty.
Gray was a huge get in my mind. He's a bigger version of Hawes. And I know everybody has been saying he's garbage from lookin at him last season, but keep in mind that he battled injuries most of last season. I think he's actually closer to the guy u saw 2 years ago than the one from this past year.
Curry makes Duhon expendable. He's bigger, quicker, and can actually hit an open j. Stop bashing him for the weed charges, he wasn't even out of HS yet damn. Hopefully we can find someone to take Duhon off our hands.
Now what do we do to complete this Championship roster?
I think we need 1 more big man. Last year, we were working with Wallace, Brown, Thomas, Allen, and Sweets, those were the guys that got the bulk of the time. Now we have Wallace, Thomas, Noah, and Gray. Let's use Duhon or MLE to pick up someone solid upfront. I'd love to see a Duhon for Collison trade, but don't think that's gonna work. I wouldn't mind resigning PJ and keeping him. Other guys to look out for IMO Mikki Moore and Melvin Ely.
Depending on whether or not we trade Nocioni, we may need another swingman, someone who could play the 2 and 3.
So what's the rest of the summer looking like for our Bulls?
Sweets
"Make or break"?
Sweets
For a reason
Collison no thanks
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Um, he
Paxson vs. Pritcchard
Why didnt paxson do like pritchard. Is Pritchard a genius? (except for thee randolph trade).
Portland will buy out Francis
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard something about Noah missing his plane?
by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Jun 29, 2007 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
Why is Hawes not a Bull?
Knicks: definite playoff team next year.
Blazers: a ring's within their reach
degense wins championships
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Jun 29, 2007 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawes is weak
by DannyRange on Jun 29, 2007 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
umm
secondly; it appears that the blazers will be good, but let's not anoit them yet. Keep in mind; Paul Shirley has had a far more successful nba career than oden...
lets just give em a month or two before we starting shing oden's bust for the hall
OK, I just emerged from work hell.
I now know we took Noah, Gray, and Curry.
My fear is the selection of Noah means an imminent trade that deals Tyrus for a low post player. The Bulls apparently had Noah higher than Tyrus last year, so they may feel that Noah is the better player. Noah gives them the luxury of trading Tyrus + someone else for a vaunted "low post scorer."
I really don't want to lose Tyrus.
Yeah, but
by corey williams corey benjamin on Jul 1, 2007 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep 'em all
I'd like to see them play this year without trading any of the key guys or Noah. Just add a MLE-type big and call it a day. It will be a fun year, particularly without having to break in 7 or 8 new guys over the circus trip.
who?
by bullshooter on Jun 29, 2007 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Noah is growing on me
1- All of us love this team and I know from the Blog the pain we feel losing and how happy we are when we win. Noah wants to win. He just doesn't talk about winning from what I'm reading, winning is everything to him.
2- He finds ways to help the team. He fits in as opposed to whining that he isn't getting the ball enough.
3- His work effort in practice is real. Again, this isn't a guy who says he will work hard - he does work hard.
4- I think his offensive game can improve because of his desire. This is not T Chandler giving 70% in practice and saying he is going to work at his game. He will find ways to improve his offensive game.
5- Yes he is a bit different. So what? What is more important is what is he really like inside. This takes time to really know that. His desire to win and help a team is a very promising sign we just obtained, yes - a bit strange, but good guy.
6- He wants to be on the Bulls and is happy to be in Chicago
7- ONLY 123 DAYS TO OPENING NIGHT - I CAN'T WAIT

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