Game Thread #75: Bulls at Detroit Pistons

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 5:54 PM CDT in News

[Ben Wallace is out tonight after what I will facetiously guess is a massive hangover. Ya know, I get the same sinus things after a morning session of hurling the previous night's poison out of me. Although I've never been taken to the hospital for it, I've also never gone drinking with the Pistons. On to the preview.]

Mad Respek to James (aka Kidd), but I think he's way off on the significance of tonight's game.

The Pistons have the #1 seed pretty much locked up, they can tolerate a loss tonight. Rasheed Wallace may not play due to hyperextending his finger the night before in Indiana.

The thing that gets me most about the Pistons' attitude is their sense of entitlement, like they're the next great dynasty in the NBA and have won multiple championships. It's annoying, but they have been to the conference finals for 4 straight seasons, which is pretty good.

But should they respect the Bulls more? Maybe, but they certainly don't have to. The Bulls have had a real good season, but the Pistons had a better one. The Bulls are a good team, but the Pistons are better. Are they so much better that the Bulls should be dismissed in a 7-game series? I don't think so, but there's no sense in us whining about the Bulls having entitled respect before the playoffs even begin.

There is no real rivalry yet between these teams. The Bulls are likely seen as an annoyance more than a threat. The Pistons more likely have nightmares over their collapse against Miami last season, or nearly losing a playoff war against LeBron and the Jamesons. I think the Bulls can give them a similar war, and win it...but the first shot isn't tonight, it's next month.

But what I've been referring to is the significance of this game to the Pistons. For the Bulls it's still significant because every game is important to overtake the #2 seed from the Cavs. The Shaq-sized elephant in the room has me nervous of the Bulls facing Miami, and with the Heat now in the drivers seat to take the Southeast Division, the better chance to avoid that 4-5 matchup is to get the #2 seed. (better yet, hope they pass Toronto and get the #3 seed so it doesn't really matter)

So Bulls need to just win, regardless of the opponent. If they do tonight, the Pistons will say they didn't care anyway. Whether that's true doesn't matter, the (re)start of any rivalry can begin in the Playoffs.

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WHAT THE FACK!

Ben Wallace is out?

Out?

For a game against Detroit?

I have never even heard of a suddenly inflamed sinus.

This is a big game. I want to win the season series for the first time since the Jordan era.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 6:01 PM CDT reply actions

Okay...

I know you guys have been over it, and I've been visiting this site at least 5 times a week since the season started... But PLEASE someone explain this seeding to me. I always thought it was the division winners get 1-3, the rest in descending record order, along with the highest seed in each round getting the home-court.

Obviously the first part isn't true with the Cavs at No. 2. I've also heard the home-court thing isn't true. Can someone explain this, at least once. I promise I'll never ask again.

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 6:02 PM CDT reply actions

rules change this season

now they seed #1-4 among the 3 division winners and the team with the next best record (in this case cleveland).

Then 5-8 is by record. Best record still gets home court.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions

A division winner is guaranteed a top 4 seed.

The other top four seed goes to the non-division winner with the best record. If the record of that non-division winner is better than one or two of the division winners, then the non-division winner gets the highest seed. If the season ended today, Detroit, Toronto, and Miami would be the division winners. However, the Cavs have a better record than Miami and Toronto, so they would be the two seed. Basically, the three division winners and the best non-division winner get the top four spots, while the precise order of those spots is determined by record.

As for home court advantage, the team with the better record gets home court advantage, not the higher seed. In the first round, the lower seed could only have the home court advantage in the four-five match-up, because of how the playoffs are structured now.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions

6 - 3 works as well

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions

They say it well

on the ESPN page:

The three division winners and the second-place team with the best record compete for the top four seeds in a conference, based on win-loss record and tiebreakers

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions

hm,

maybe I should refresh the page instead of trying to get all the links and quotes crap in my reply

Chitown, Matt : 1

Me : 0

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Not to be a weisenheimer,

but I think it's been only the past 4 seasons that Detroit have made it to the Eastern Conference finals

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 6:04 PM CDT reply actions

yer right

I'll update it.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions

The thing that gets me most about the Pistons...

Is that they're a bunch of fucking bitches who spend the entire game whining and crying about the referees. It would be one thing if was was just Rasheed Wallace, but no, it's EVERYONE on the entire team. They spend the entire game bitching to the refs, and then they act shocked when they get technicals. At some point, it's going to cost them a key game in the playoffs. Hopefully it's this year against the Bulls.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 6:11 PM CDT reply actions

yeah, that's a close second

on my 'reasons to hate the Pistons' tablet.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought

I heard tonight that T-Time is also not feeling well. I think he will play though.

GO BULLS!!!

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 4, 2007 6:22 PM CDT reply actions

I always look forward to your signature post

before each game.

I feel lost and utterly confused without it.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions

lol

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 4, 2007 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope Skiles grinds down

what's left of Webber's knees with Michael Sweetney.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 6:35 PM CDT reply actions

Wow, Thabo's starting.

Did anyone else hear about Aldridge? It's so unfortunate, he was having such a good rookie season.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 6:36 PM CDT reply actions

I'm pretty sure Sweetney ate a little kid

before the game. Just for a snack.

God he's freaking huge.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 6:52 PM CDT reply actions

i was at the game

and the pistons fans behind me, when it was stilla game, we're mocking sweets relentlessly. I thought about standing up for the poor guy; then I realized we do the same here at BAB...

Random Idea: Pistons fans shout sheed whenever rasheed does something. Let's take it a step further

"LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK"

those 16 foot jump shots would be even more of a thing of beauty

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Thabo is doing a good job with Prince

chgobr

by chgobr on Apr 4, 2007 6:54 PM CDT reply actions

He can make that shot.

He didn't that time.

-Tom Dore

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 7:02 PM CDT reply actions

Is Thomas out tonight?

I sure hope he is, because there's no other rational explanation why Sweetney is out there instead of him.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:04 PM CDT reply actions

Um, is Tyrus in foul trouble?

I just started watching the game, but I am wondering why he isn't on Webber. It would be a perfect match-up for Ty.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:04 PM CDT reply actions

He hasn't gotten any minutes yet.

Maybe sick?

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Allowing Webber to dunk is a travesty.

WTF?

Where is Ty?

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:09 PM CDT reply actions

There he is. He has a sinus infection too?

Jesus.

Has the team been hitting the yeyo?

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Thomas is in now

If he's was active, why put Sweetney in there at all? When Chris Webber is blowing by you and dunking on you, you shouldn't be out there.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:10 PM CDT reply actions

Suck it up Tyrus.

You have to learn to play sick in this league.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:12 PM CDT reply actions

Why, why, why

does Michael Sweetney ever get any playing time? He will be the DEATH of me.

And TT's having some problems. Anyone know what's wrong?

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 7:12 PM CDT reply actions

He has a sinus infection too.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions

someone

just answered that last question. Sorry.

Give him a break. He's younger than I am, and I'm a freshman in college.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions

They just showed a close-up of him on Comcast.

Poor kid really looks like he is dying.

I think he is trying to suck it up.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions

He absolutely looked like crap

Give him credit, though, he was awesome when he was on the court. They may have to limit him to several short 3-4 stretches before getting some rest tonight.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Nothing but props.

He scored five points and got a few rebounds in a three minute span.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions

The playoff seeding has become critical, which

makes this game big.

Previously, Toronto was in the four spot, which was a great match-up for the Bulls. Now Miami is there.

Miami in the first round is tough, especially if Wade gets back.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:16 PM CDT reply actions

Someone needs to kick Delfino square in the face

with a steel toed boot.

Bulls not playing well. Too many TO's.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:19 PM CDT reply actions

Without

Ben and TT (who needs a formalized nickname, btw), we really lack energy, esp on defense. Fortunately, the guards are knocking down shots.

Still, I want my energy players. And I never want to see Michael Sweetney again in my life.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 7:22 PM CDT reply actions

Sweetney's got to be pushing 300 lbs at this point

I don't care how many people we have out, there's no way he should be out there in a game that means anything. At least, not in an NBA game that means anything; I wouldn't be surprised if Sweetney becomes an NBADL All-Star in a year or two.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions

He's listed at

270 lbs. I can't imagine that that's within 20 lbs. of his actual weight.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Maybe the scale

Just maxes out at 270?

No other explanation makes sense.

Watch your head, Tyrus!

by cubbybear on Apr 4, 2007 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Great moves from Sefolosha!

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 7:31 PM CDT reply actions

You guys see

Arenas' injury? that could make things interesting in the postseason.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 7:34 PM CDT reply actions

Wow

If he's going to be out for a while, then whoever plays Washington in the 1st round might as well get a bye. It would be a shame though; I was really hoping Washington would win that division so we could avoid Miami in the 1st round.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions

as i read your comment

i look up at the TV and hes doing a commerical...always interesting seeing an injured guy in a commercial...

and gilbert draws like a 5 year old

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions

It's unbelievable that they're only down by 1

Wallace is out, Thomas has only played a few minutes, Gordon has been terrible . . . they really should be down by 20 at this point. This would be a hell of a win.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:39 PM CDT reply actions

Thabo has some potential.

I just don't see how he is going to develop, though, behind Gordon, Hinrich, and Duhon.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:42 PM CDT reply actions

Do you think we need Duhon?

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I think he'll have to go (or one of the other

guards will) if Thabo is going to develop.

We used a Top 15 pick on him. Paxson must have some plans to actually use him down the road.

I don't know. It just seems like a waste to have him sitting on the bench, languishing. He won't get better that way.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Interesting game

so far. T-Time played well considering he looks like death warmed over. I just love what he brings to the game. Thabo has done ok too. Good thing Kirk is playing well. What's up with Gordon? He's been inconsistant lately.

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 4, 2007 7:46 PM CDT reply actions

nice run to end the half

I was worried when they started so hot from the field and didn't build a big lead, since the bench predictably came and sucked.

Second straight time against Detroit that Gordon was in foul trouble. Maybe they know to attack him with either Billups or Hamilton. Or it's just Ben being dumb?

Can't they give Tyrus a magical B12 shot?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 7:51 PM CDT reply actions

oh, and thabo

glad he played competently tonight, the team needed him to.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions

jizzle needs to get his energy drink out

so the bench guys can get their mojo going

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Apparently Griffin is also out sick

Maybe we'll actually see Khryapa in the 2nd half.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions

Back spasms.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions

The refs have decided to start the second half by

sucking cack.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions

thanks for the shout out, matt

Maybe most regular season games don't matter that much, but like opening night against the Heat, if the Bulls win tonight, no one can say the Bulls will be a walk over...

Mad Repesk goes to the Bulls if they win from all around the league.

And mad respect to the king of all Bulls bloggers, Mr. Blog-a-Bull himself. Really, no one does it better, no matter what Colossus says.

Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Apr 4, 2007 8:00 PM CDT reply actions

Thabo needs to take Sheed off the dribble there

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:03 PM CDT reply actions

Well....

I'm glad they didn't call offensive goldtending on that. Tyrus needs to settle down.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions

I'd rather not

considering a couple posessions later he made a beautiful reverse too.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions

You definitely win

Christ this kid is good. I can't wait for him to be an all-star in 3 years.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Is that Kobe Hinrich?

-Red

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions

man, you got prof. Hubie on ESPN

why bother with the locals?

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions

For gems like that

And Hubie's advice to Hinrich to "quit crying" in the last ABC Bulls/Pistons matchup bothered me. How could you not want to hear Stace call a game when Sefolosha is getting extended minutes?

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions

comment of the night

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Considering limited minutes and illness, Thomas is

having a decent game.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:24 PM CDT reply actions

ah, but you forgot to consider

that he's awesome :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd say

better than decent. He's having his usual impact, and even had his trademark "4 possessions straight where I affect everything that happens."

If he keeps playing like he has been over the last 2 weeks, we'll kick ass in the playoffs.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions

We MUST MUST finish this fourth quarter.

He have to win. We cannot blow this lead against this team.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:25 PM CDT reply actions

like they did last time?

oh that's right, they didn't blow that game (even though it freaked everyone out anyway). I found it to be quite clutch, actually...

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Third Quarter: 32-16

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:26 PM CDT reply actions

and that's considering

Gordon got a 4th foul coming out of the locker room.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Gordan needs to

just write this game off coming into this quarter. If he wastes time getting into rythm, things could go south.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought I saw him knock into

part of the Automotion

Watch your head, Tyrus!

by cubbybear on Apr 4, 2007 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions

im not sure i wouldnt have done the same

one thing you can give props to detroit for...their dance team blows ours out of the water

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions

I take it back. He's having a better than decent

game.

((Mancrush))

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:31 PM CDT reply actions

Drools

Just imagine how good Tyrus will be in three years, once he develops a jump shot . . .

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions

If he could just add a six to ten footer

His offensive game would open up.

He should keep devloping that post game too.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:35 PM CDT reply actions

Fuck yeah, Tyrus, mix it up with those

Detroit fag bitches.

Fuck you Detroit.

WHAT THE FUCK> THERE IS NO WAY TYRUS SHOULD BE OUT.

FUCKING BULLSH*T.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions

Hey, shit and fuck all you want

leave the hate speech at home.

-unofficial moderator

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry. Mementary explosion of fury.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions

I just don't like when people

mimic Billy Packer.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Nor does

anyone else. Or Ozzie Guillen.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Hamilton is such a chump

He did the same thing to Hinrich last season.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions

DOGSHIT FUCKING BS CALL

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions

What happened?

Did Thomas and Hamilton get into it (for those of us with no TV)?

by Freethefro on Apr 4, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions

BS Refs

Thomas and Hamilton got into it a little (not fighting but close) and they both got ejected which is bullcrap because Hamilton was following Thomas around making the talk go on longer. Thomas shouldn't have been ejected imo he was trying to end it by walking away.

by SRQman on Apr 4, 2007 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions

recap

Sorry to bother everyone but since I have not Tv tonight, what just happened with the technical fouls and tyrus getting ejected?

by Sambossanova on Apr 4, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions

Rip and TT

got two T's and got ejected.

Basically.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Detroit always was a cocksucking shithole of a

city.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:40 PM CDT reply actions

Hamilton

is a little whiny douche bag.

But you've got to like Deng's leadership, trying to settle Thomas down. Good sign for the future.

We've still got a very good chance; Peej in for TT is better than Delfino/Hunter in for Rip.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:41 PM CDT reply actions

Avery good chance?

Are the Bulls not up by 20 points?

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I have major problems

with saying "we'll win" before the end of the game.

I've been burned far too many times.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions

No problem.

I'm just following on NBA.com and was hoping I iddn't miss a comeback or something.

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Not to mention

His poor taste in facial accessories
and
facial hair

Which is eerily similar to another set of facial hair.

Watch your head, Tyrus!

by cubbybear on Apr 4, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Might be better that Tyrus is out

We've got this game wrapped up, we don't need the Pistons baiting him into punching somebody and getting a long suspension right before the playoffs. The call was terrible, but at least Tyrus was able to keep his cool.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 8:41 PM CDT reply actions

league should rescind one or both of the t's

on t-time....no t's for t-time....eww but it was too easy

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Hamilton should get suspended.

He elbowed Tyrus not once, but TWICE. The second was after the whistle.

And then he stalked Tyrus.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions

'stalked'

that's what I saw too. Tyrus was walking away and Rip wouldn't shut up. Tyrus may have been still jawing too but it sure seemed like Rip was the aggressor.

The T's hurt Rip more anyway since he has like 15 this year.

And nice job by Detroit fans by throwing something at Tyrus in the Tunnel. That's why they live in Detroit.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Actually I think

That they're taking out their "life sucks cuz I live in Detroit" aggression on Tyrus.

Watch your head, Tyrus!

by cubbybear on Apr 4, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Isiah Thomas

just called and said the Bulls should sit their starters.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 8:46 PM CDT reply actions

Very nice.

Is he going to send in Mardy Collins to take care of bidnis?

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions

Too bad

Big Ben wasn't there to moderate. You have to love Tyrus, though - am I hearing this right, he didn't retaliate?

by Freethefro on Apr 4, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions

He kept jawing

but Deng calmed him down and he ended up walking away, with Hamilton, as mentioned above, stalking him.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions

thanks Chalk

by Freethefro on Apr 4, 2007 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions

I am watching the play (and replays) on TIVO.

If Kobe got one game for his behavior, Hamilton should get one too.

That was nothing more than a blatant attempt at typical Detroit intimidation.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions

I hate to even ask. What did the ESPN d-bags

say about the incident?

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:49 PM CDT reply actions

They were largely with us

about Rip being the instigator. Not sure what they said during the ejection (phone rang).

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions

They actually called the Piston fan who threw

the banana peel(I think it was), "moronic."

It went like: "..And some moron had the audacity to throw something at Thomas."

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I believe Marc said

"Total moron"

of course, the Palace was the site of the Brawl, so he has a point.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Marv*

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions

*Mike Tirico

Kindof tough to see the difference though ;-p

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Damn

Does Mike Tirico commentate every sport in the world?

by Chalkwhite on Apr 5, 2007 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Funny how that only seems to happen in Detroit

When's the last time a fan threw something at a player in any other NBA city? Maybe it's happened somewhere else recently, but if it has I've missed it.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

someone threw a quarter

in some blue collar kinda dirty city...im thinking houston or indy?

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions

on a lighter note

NYK down 3 to Philly.

by Freethefro on Apr 4, 2007 8:50 PM CDT reply actions

It's good to know

we can win without Gordon contributing.

We can't, of course, win if he's missing all his shots, but I think Hinrich is probably a better barometer of the team than Gordon.

I also got the distinct feeling that the Pistons didn't give a shit about this game.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:50 PM CDT reply actions

I am somewhat concerned about his inconsistency,

We'll need him in the playoffs, or so it would seem.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions

I know what you mean.

I wish that he could either be a facilitator (sp) or a scorer every night, instead of tentatively trying to be both.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions

I usually don't buy the "statement game"

stuff, at least not for regular season games, but if anything is a statement game, this one is. To go into Detroit without Ben Wallace, with Ben Gordon hardly even on the court, and beat the crap out of the Pistons is just unbelievable. Maybe it's true that Pistons don't care, but still, this is a huge win.

by Big D on Apr 4, 2007 8:53 PM CDT reply actions

I agree

Plus, this gives us the season series: probably won't be important, but stranger things have happened.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions

ANDRE BARRET SIGHTING

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:54 PM CDT reply actions

ANDRE BARRETT'S MY FAVORITE PLAYER

EVER.

We're watching the future of the Bulls at play right now.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions

We humiliated this Detroit team in ther own

building.

They had all of their starters this game.

We were missing Ben Wallace. Tyrus was sick. Gordon played like crap and was in foul trouble.

What is the Pistons' excuse this time?

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions

Hamilton's a bitch.

Who starts shit with a rookie?

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 8:56 PM CDT reply actions

A walking, stanky Detroit labia.

I hate this team.

Almost as much as Cleveland.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Round of applause

And good job all around.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions

Excitement...

Good to see all the excitement on here from a regular season game.

I don't know what a "typical Detroit intimidation" attempt is, but we'll have to take your word on it 1958ChiTown. And I'm sure there aren't parts of ChiTown that aren't shithole parts either... That comment was totally unnecessary.

It's a basketball game dude, relax... it's a REGULAR season basketball game. Your boys still will have a worse record than the Pistons after tonight's game. You may win the season series and even though #1 seed is still within grasp, I don't think the Pistons will give up the #1 seed in the east.

by Boney @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions

c'mon

we don't go on Pistons message boards and bitch at you.

Let us be.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Boney, you suck.

Of course we're a little biased here, the majority of us are Chicagoans, and if not that, die-hard Bulls fans.

And honestly. You're from Detroit. God have mercy on your soul.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm pretty sure

I've replied to Boner regarding the excitement here, and it's no different for a Bucks or Hawks matchup.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, dude. Detroit is a cosmopolitan metropolis.

It's just like Chicago.

In fact, like Chicago, Detroit is the running for the Olympics. The White Trash Olympics.

It features events like "Airbrushing the Camaro" and "Wifebeater Accessorization" and "White Flight 200 Meters"

The Bulls just humiliated the Pistons in their building. You were one Weber push off from being swept.

And Hamilton is a pussy.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

starts slow clap

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions

It's sad

that the Detroit fans couldn't wait to blow off steam until the end of the game, and instead they had to throw something at Tyrus. If they had only waited, they could have stolen rims off of parked cars and started out-of-control trash fires as usual.

by Petor on Apr 5, 2007 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Schadenfreud update

Knicks lose by two.

by Freethefro on Apr 4, 2007 9:07 PM CDT reply actions

woo! Thanks for the update Freethefro

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Not bitching at you

Just saying that everyone on here was pretty much excited about the game except for the idiot making references to the basketball team being a "walking stanky labia"... it's a regular season game, I can understand the playoffs or something.

On another note, I know your boys are short handed and such... but do you think 42 minutes from Hinrich is a little bit of overkill considering that your boys were up 20+ points in the 4th quarter? You don't think resting PJ Brown, Luol Deng and Hinrich is key to the ultimate success of this team? 38,39, and 42 minutes respectively.

I'm sorry if that last line of questioning didn't contain more curse words and remarks about how "shitty" I think Chicago....

by Boney @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions

Just saying

that I'm sure Detroit's message boards aren't completely kosher.

But I am not of the opinion that the city itself in either a hell pit or a walking genital.

And I don't mind Hinrich's minutes. He was the only one of our best three (Gordon and Deng) who was having any kind of a night.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions

i heard

Detroit is worse than Mogadishu

by Dr0ne420 on Apr 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Boner -

Isiah Thomas commends your knowledge of sportsmanship.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions

ha!

That was truly a lame point, Boney.

I was hoping Ben Gordon would come in and rain some threes and get the lead to 40. And maybe in Detroit tradition set some cars on fire on his way out ;-p

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions

skiles does have a problem

playing guys too long. But it was only a blowout for about 10 minutes. You'd figure a team with as much machismo and false bravado as the Pistons would make a run, not try to get themselves thrown out of the game...

by bullshooter on Apr 5, 2007 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions

Well, don't you think that it's a little overkill

for Hamilton to insinuate a quarrel with a 20 year-old rook when a) The game has ended and B) In summary of your own words, "just a regular season game"?

But the fact that you're on a Chicago Bulls blog instead of your own respective team makes me wonder how comfortable you are with the Pistons.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Keep telling yourself its just the regular season.

Keep telling yourself it doesn't matter that we just made your team so frustrated that Hamilton tried to pick a fight like a little b*tch.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Hinrich is a gym rat you can't tire him out

Since Detroit is so close to Chicago Skiles will probably make Hinrich run behind he bus home.

Petty funny someone from Detroit trying to bitch about Chicago.

by boerwinkle on Apr 4, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions

well actually

Hinrich is tired all the time :-)

But I'm not worried about the minutes tonight. Hell it'll help the ol' stats, I'm sure Kirk appreciates it.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

One can

never have enough Kirk Hinrich.

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 4, 2007 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions

please....

playing your starters wayyy to long was one of the reasons detorit crahsed and burned...perhaps if you ahd spent some extra time on detorit boards flio woulda seen that and added it to "coaching for dummies"

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Knicks lose to Philly - life is good!!!

chgobr

by chgobr on Apr 4, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions

How about this news

LaMarcus Aldridge out indefinitely with dizziness and a rapid heartbeat.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-trailblazers-aldridge&prov=ap&type=lgns

by boerwinkle on Apr 4, 2007 9:12 PM CDT reply actions

WOW

Deja vu? I'm glad we didn't take him now. We've had enough "uneven heartbeats" for a lifetime.

But I feel bad for the kid. He was doing well.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions

That's what I was saying too.

He was having a great season. Hopefully it's nothing too serious.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow

that seriously sucks; he seems to be a really good kid, not to mention player.

by Freethefro on Apr 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Hamilton

was stalking T-Time. TT should not have been ejected, it was all Hamilton. He is a definitely a yuck factor. I loathe him.

Players stepped up when they had to tonight. T-Time and Thabo both made their minutes count. Good game for our team.

Hope they can carry this momentum over to Friday nights game.

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 4, 2007 9:14 PM CDT reply actions

I've said it all along by the way...

If there's any team that Detroit should fear in the playoffs from here on out is Chicago. Chicago is a great basketball team when their shooting is on, when it's not though, it's a disaster. Chicago has (I believe) the best mix of youth and talent in the league. Instead of me saying they should have the best mix of youth in the league because of all the high draft picks they've had recently, I'll just say I'm impressed that Coach Skiles has been able to keep the youth of this team under control..

I'm glad Detroit picked up Sheed in '04, they never would have won the title. However I don't like how they picked up Webber this year, even though he's helped them, just because it seems like they're trying to be like the late 90's Lakers by picking up names and getting older.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls went on a run during the playoffs, it always seems like 1 team from the east does and they usually are the team that makes the finals.

Don't shit on Detroit though, they're 2 wins from their 6th consecutive 50+ win season. They've had a great run, and if Billups doesn't leave this off-season I see them having another 50 win season next year (so long as the nucleus stays... ok maybe get rid of Hamilton).

by Boney @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions

I can respect their success

and still hate the guys on the team. It's just not a likeable team! We don't even like Ben Wallace that much :-D

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions

My aunt

who knows I love the Bulls but knows nothing about them, sent me a Wallace jersey for my birthday.

I haven't taken it out of the bag.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions

if ya really dont want it

ill take it...

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Am I the only one

who didn't notice that Thabo had 10 rebounds?

Our other rook needs some love.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:16 PM CDT reply actions

Dude, he had a great night.

I hope he gets a little bit more minutes from the outcome of this game.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions

RE: Isiah Thomas commends my sportsmanship

I didn't say it was overkill to leave Hinrich, Brown or Deng in... I could care less...

I was simply saying from a common sense or a "rest" standpoint. You're up by 20, why continue to run Hinrich out there for 40+ minutes? I don't care that they did, I'm trying to interject some real basketball questions in here rather than coming up with reasons why Hamilton "stalked" Tyrus Thomas.

Richard Hamilton is the weakest player on the Pistons team. He may be their leading scorer, but he's the easiest of the starting 5 to replace. He gets hit in the face on a screen or something and he feels it was a cheapshot so the on the insuing(ensuing?) possessions he feels the need to get up in the guy's face and start shit... everyone knows it, he sucks and I wish DET would get rid of him.

I'm not here ridiculing the Bulls, just simply adding to the quality of the board, that's all.

by Boney @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:19 PM CDT reply actions

2nd seed

There's no reason to cut it close, and Skiles rarely plays guys 30-35+ minutes.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

huh?

he plays Deng 40+ all the time.

by bullshooter on Apr 5, 2007 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions

You have to understand

that everyone on this board despises the Pistons. DESPISES. Pistons fans really aren't welcome.

Sorry.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Chalkwhite, I've just developed a man-crush

on you.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know

whether to be flattered, or change my locks.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions

haha

(breaths heavily)

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

You've made up my mind

I'm calling the locksmith.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions

The first round playoff situation is not good

for the Bulls right now.

I think we can beat Miami, but if Wade comes back it will be tough.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 9:22 PM CDT reply actions

My comfort level with my boys

I'm not on a Pistons' site commenting about them because I can't stand blind homers...

I will keep telling myself it's a regular season game. I've given props to the Bulls all season (including tonight) yet some of you donkeys seem to think I'm attacking you.

I'm not from Detroit, I wasn't taking shots at the town of Chicago... all I asked was why someone would get so pumped up over a regular season game as to make fun of Detroit even though we all know the Pistons don't actually play in Detroit, but in a suburb of Detroit. that's all...

by Boney @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:24 PM CDT reply actions

like a special lady

Detroit jokes are easy and fun.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions

more of a reason to despise the team

the bulls built a new stadium ON THE WEST SIDE...thats bloody respek for the town....

my girl is a diehard pistons fan and i still despise the pistons....

respect...but not admiration

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Despise the Pistons...

I like them, but I don't like them when they feel like the league owes them something. This whole "you know, we play our best basketball with our backs against the wall" bullshit in the playoffs caught up to them last year against Miami. It's bullshit, but I've been a fan since '86 so I can't go back on them now...

Besides, what fun would it be making fun of the bulls on a pistons' site? (I'm kidding 1958ChiTown, don't refer to me as women's genitalia)

by Boney @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions

What's the difference between Michael Jackson

and the Detroit Pistons?

One rapes little children and one sucks at basketball.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions

To no one in particular...

I don't what it was about Thabo (the age, the commitment to defense or what) but I remember when Tyrus was on an ESPN chat two days before the draft, asking him what he would think if the Bulls drafted him and Thabo Sefolosha. He said (obviously), "I would love to be drafted by Chicago. Anyone who could come in and help would also be great." Or something like that. (I'm trying to impress my knowledge of how I knew who Thabo was before he was drafted. Being as I know nothing about basketball.)

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 9:29 PM CDT reply actions

Oh, well, that's certainly better.

The Pistons don't play in the anus of the Midwest itself, they just hang out on the perineum, like human dingleberries.

Understood.

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions

Why does NBA.COM have the Bulls in 3rd?

Is this a mistake?

chgobr

by chgobr on Apr 4, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions

probably just the 'pure' standings

and not the playoff seedings.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Did the Bulls trade someone to get Nocioni?

Someone on a Cubs 'blog is asking me and I don't know.

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions

no he was a FA

went undrafted several years ago so he was eligible to sign with anybody.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Nope

Signed out of Argentina, I believe. Foreign player contracts are crazy, but I don't think we gave up anything for him.

Watch your head, Tyrus!

by cubbybear on Apr 4, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think it's possible at this point, as the

trade deadline passed a while ago. I'm sure there are some exceptions for a trade(anyone know?) but I know it's quite unlikely.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow, I totally misread your post.

Don't read my idiocy.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I did read it...

But I'm semi-buzzed, so it's all good.

Is Sue still around? I'd like to ask her opinion about the Hawkeye basketball situation.

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Did you go to LSU?

by 1958ChiTown on Apr 4, 2007 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not Sue

But I'm happy Steve Alford is out of the Big Ten. And a lot of my Iowa neighbors are happy, too. The Big Ten is a better place without him.

by KT on Apr 4, 2007 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey Tyger

I'm tickled shitless that Alford is gone. Best thing to happen to Iowa and it's fans. The best line I heard about Alford leaving came from a sports anchor for WHO in Des Moines, "One teams junk in another teams treasure".

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 5, 2007 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Rumor

Tyrus Thomas dug deep into his record collection, and quoting GG Allin, he informed Rip Hamilton, "In place of a face you gotta ass instead."

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 4, 2007 9:51 PM CDT reply actions

I know

everyone's seen this, but I just watched it again:
http://bothteamsplayedhard.net/
scroll down to #1.

goosebumps

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 9:53 PM CDT reply actions

I had never seen that.

by tyger1147 on Apr 4, 2007 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions

It is so unfair that I had to miss this game!

I'm thrilled - of course - to see that Kirk had such a great night, and after reading all of the comments it is almost like seeing the game. Still, this one sounds like I'll be up 3 watching the rebroadcast.

by wjb1492 on Apr 4, 2007 10:06 PM CDT reply actions

It wasn't really an

exciting game, just an exciting outcome, and the TT-Rip fight was interesting.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions

LOL - well, maybe I'll record it then

and just fastforward to the good stuff. If ESPN did any kind of decent job recapping games I could just do that.

by wjb1492 on Apr 4, 2007 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought it was an entertaining game.

Everyone seemed to play above par, save Gordon.
I'm also a big Thabo fan, and he got to start, so that kept me watching for the whole game. He played good D tonight.

And watching the Pistons slowly get routed never really gets old for me.

HOT DENG!!

by NittanyBull on Apr 4, 2007 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed

blowouts are exciting. Especially on a national stage, because then all the announcers do is praise the Bulls. For some weird reason it still feels like some sort of validation when that happens.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 4, 2007 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I know what you mean

but I wouldn't stay up until 3 solely to watch Khryapa shoot free throws at the end of the game.

Personal taste.

by Chalkwhite on Apr 4, 2007 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, but the only thing I have before noon

tomorrow is a stats class that I can skip - being a grad student leaves me poor, but it's hard to beat the schedule. :)

by wjb1492 on Apr 4, 2007 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions

wjb

you need to either watch the game or record it. If you watch Sports Center highlights it was Kirk Hinrich hits from here, and from here, from here too and from here. He had an awesome game and to see Deng start hitting in the second quarter was great too. Thabo and T-Time both played well and the little tiff between Hamilton and TT is a must. TT got screwed by the ref big time.

Note to Ben Gordon: Please stop committing stupid offensive fouls.

by sue369 on Apr 5, 2007 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions

i was at the game

and lemme tell you...i was glad to pull into EL at 2AM...after an excruciatingly long, fun filled, and freezing my ass off day to have the honour of seeing veeeektor hit FTs

by milesgmsu on Apr 6, 2007 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions

I was just looking at ESPN's daily leaders thing

Kirk, Lu and PJ were the top 3 players in the game, and all well above season average. Ty more than doubled his season average even in just the short minutes. BG, Andre Barrett and Sweets were the only Bulls below average - although I'm not sure how you go with an average for AB and Sweets when they so rarely play.

Rasheed Wallace was the top guy for Detroit, but still a little below his season average. Flip Murray, Carlos Delfino and Lindsey Hunter were the only Detroit guys who played better than their average, and even that wasn't by much.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/dailyleaders?gameId=270404008&date=20070404

by wjb1492 on Apr 4, 2007 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions

I just saw the 3-D commercial with Kobe again,

and I just noticed that Jeremy Piven was on there. It made me wonder: didn't Jeremy Piven grow up in Evanston? What the hell is he doing praising Kobe when he's playing against the Bulls? You've officially broken my heart, Ari.

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