Game Thread #74: Bulls vs. Cleveland Cavaliers
As I'm sure everyone here knows, a win places the Bulls at the #2 seed.
There were a couple things that I liked in that Pistons game (there were a lot of things not to like, mind you) that I hope continues. One was the offensive aggressiveness of Ben Gordon, who was drawing fouls early and getting the Pistons in the penalty. Hopefully that agressiveness wasn't also the reason he was getting dumb fouls himself in that game, and he can do one without the other.
But speaking of dumb fouls, Tyrus Thomas managed to not do that, which meant he stayed on the floor to the end, and finished with only 1 foul and 3 (hey, that's good for him) turnovers. Both Gordon and Tyrus are guys who are their own worst enemy in terms of playing time. I think Skiles has enough faith in each of them now to leave them out there as long unless the fouls and turnovers force him otherwise.
Another huge game on national TV. That means it could be another monster night for Ben Wallace. For those who say that shot he made down the stretch was lucky, well of course it was. But it was just as unlucky for Ben Gordon to miss 3 free throws in a row. If you were going to say that was him not being 'clutch', then fine, acknowledge Wallace's off-the-top-of-the-backboard shot as 'clutch' too, and then realize how silly that word is.
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Hinrich
He needs to back off a little bit once he picks up a couple of fouls (which always seems to be within the first quarter). He can be too overagressive on defense but that probably has to do with the fact that he is short and isnt extremely fast and doesnt have long arms.
He did that Thursday
With an 1+ hour until tip...
Today's Sun Times (Brian Hanley)
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/321491,CST-SPT-bull31.article
Here is one excerpt:
"....which is why some fans will wonder whether it might be better for the Bulls to hang tight as the No. 5 seed and take their chances -- without home-court advantage -- against the Toronto Raptors or the Washington Wizards."
This has to be the single worst, most inaccurate assessment of the current playoff situation I can imagine.
Check it out...
I want
GO BULLS!!!
Man, Bill Walton just bugs me.
fucking a
whew that flet good
well i guess that hughes shot
matt;
this
infuriating
by Sambossanova on Mar 31, 2007 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Walton sucks!!
Tell us how you really feel, Sue!
I know.
combination
Although I do thing bill walton has a thing for luol deng and malik allen.
If you turn down the Bass on your TV
by Grass on Mar 31, 2007 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
Well
by JC @ Blog a Bull on Mar 31, 2007 4:11 PM CDT reply actions
jeesh
by fundamentallysound on Mar 31, 2007 4:33 PM CDT reply actions
the refs have called a terrible game
anyone know
by fundamentallysound on Mar 31, 2007 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
jesus
by fundamentallysound on Mar 31, 2007 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
If you had read this game thread...
Tyrus Thomas
Min -- 37
Pts -- 27
FGM/FGA -- 9/11
FTM/FTA -- 9/10
Reb -- 8
Steal -- 3
Blk -- 3
TO -- 1
PF -- 2
I didn't know he could have his best game of his career, and it would be so "quiet." Of course, unless that's a fuck up by ESPN.
can we please
by fundamentallysound on Mar 31, 2007 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
What is the record...
Gordon choked today.
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on Mar 31, 2007 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
jesus
by fundamentallysound on Mar 31, 2007 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
but Matt and Pax Jax said...
Although I do admit...
Painful Loss
by Grass on Mar 31, 2007 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
That's how I feel, too.
Skiles
Anyone mention
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Mar 31, 2007 5:04 PM CDT reply actions
I watched the GN feed with the sound off
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Mar 31, 2007 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Here are my favorites
A shot clock violation that he was positive hit the rim.
The fact that anyone would call a 3-second violation in the last minute of a game.
And at least 2 statements about Salvatore and Smith just standing around and letting Zarba "take over the game" (with particular reference to the charge calls on LBJ).
calls were terrible all the way around
Oh, I agree
Ch-ch-ch-Chapu, where are U?
I was forced to miss most of the game, but I luckily tuned in w/ 8 mins to go in the 4th. My roommate (objective Pistons fan) had watched a bit and told me that BG had been lighting it up. I did not see evidence of that from the point where I tuned in. He looked very hesitant on drives and did a bunch of herky-jerky moves when his floater would have resulted in a good look. Turnovers in the lane were killing me. Cleveland defended him well, going with height and doubling like crazy. As others have noted, they need someone else to score. Again, we miss Chapu. Particularly in this game because Cleveland's power forwards were able to set up in the lane defensively. Normally, Ben could just kick out to Noce for a clean shot. If he doesn't come back, we have to run the offense differently.
Also, two horrendous calls that may not have affected the game, but horrendous nonetheless. The out-of-bounds timeout was blatant. Furthermore, in OT, LeBron had a clear double-dribble that went uncalled. They just chucked a shot up out of that, but they may have gotten the board? Or was that when Wallace was fouled? Objective roommate agreed both calls were awful, and voiced the same complaints about Walton's ridiculous reaction to the charges called (way before I arrived home).
It pained me greatly to see Malik Allen in the game in the 4th quarter. I realize we went with a short bench today, but come on. Was PJ hurt? Malik gave up at least two offensive rebounds because he didn't box out. In an OT game, you can point to anything, but that's the game right there, too. Box the Fuck OUT!
I did like that on the last play of regulation, the Bulls didn't even let LeBron sniff the basketball.
Obviously needed more from Deng today, but checking LeBron ain't easy. If he has to pick one end to spend his energy, defense would be the correct choice today. But five turnovers? Yikes!
Man, I thought Ben's three was good. Two inches off... Plus, James and Hughes are 69 and 66 percent free throw shooters, but today they combined for 19/23.
2nd is still possible and the Bulls have a much better conference record which I believe is the 2nd tiebreaker, right?
OK, I'm done rambling. Imagine if I watched the whole thing! You guys are lucky...
by corey williams corey benjamin on Mar 31, 2007 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
Just back from UC. I am going to vent.
Let me count the f*cking ways:
(1) Last play of regulation. The replay on the big screen CLEARLY showed that the Cavalier pussy did not have possession of the ball until he was OUT OF BOUNDS. You can't call a TO until you have possession. Hence, it should have been the Bulls ball with three seconds left in the game. They should have had another chance at a winning shot. Dogsh*t number one.
(2) There was no f*cking foul on the LeBron spin move when we were up by four. None. It was a piece of sh*t reflex call by the cowed and ignorant officials. Dogsh*t number two.
(3) On the possession after the spin move, Ben Gordon got into the lane and was hammered. No call. Did the ref think that the ball fell two feet short of the rim because Ben just missed? There was obviously no blocked shot. Did the walking douchebag not see the contact? Dogsh*t number three.
(4) At some point, Cleveland made the decision to absolutely manhande BG. They switched and jumped out on every screen, typically bumping BG off of his trajectory. They reached in and slapped his arms every time he went around a screen. They did everything but tackle him. The refs refused to do anything about it. It was ridiculous. Dogsh*t four through seventy six.
The worst thing was having to listen to nasally, fat, cheesy, low class, low rent twinks from Cleveland talk sh*t after the game on the concourses. I just kept telling them that, although they may have won the game, they were still from Cleveland, and nothing could erase that stain from their souls. Chicago should never lose anything to that urban blight.
The only positive coming out of this game was the continued improvement of Tyrus, who was a monster at both ends tonight.
It'll take me a few days to come down from the height of rage I currently occupy.
just got back from the UC also
Also back from the UC
by Squirrley on Mar 31, 2007 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate to disagree...
by corey williams corey benjamin on Apr 1, 2007 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions
You could be right.
I just saw the replay once on the big screen.
about the loss
by zjuic on Mar 31, 2007 8:58 PM CDT reply actions
5th Seed
by vlad001 on Mar 31, 2007 10:07 PM CDT reply actions
If we did play the heat
by Squirrley on Apr 1, 2007 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I've calmed down
Looks like I missed one helluva game
Wish I had seen Ty's gaudy performance though.
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Mar 31, 2007 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
For the second time in three TV games
Despite what Sambossanova might think, the Bulls need to give Hinrich the ball at the end of games. Until BG gets calls more consistently, he's hurting them. It's too tough for him to get his shot off either because he isn't big enough, or the refs can't see him getting hacked in the middle. I don't know which it is, but he isn't getting the results the Bulls need. And another thing, the entire league knows that Gordon is going to drive parallel to the free throw and turn the corner for a floater by now. Is that the only play the Bulls can run?
Tough loss today, but the real test will be tomorrow against Atlanta.
Hinrich should take the last shot
Also anyone thinking if Thomas continues to play like this he could be a huge X-factor in the playoffs and a big time player next year
My problem with the last shot,
SAmbossanova
Hinrich is also short and on an iso play would probably fair as badly as gordon or a little better since he probably wouldn't turn the ball over. The bulls need to close these games out much stronger.
Also, is it me or did Ben Wallace do an awful job of guarding the paint and boxing out, espescially in the first half? Sort of dissapointing since hes been doing so well lately and the game was on TV so youd expect him to bring his A game.
Overally tough loss but its good experience for the bulls. Hopefully they pull through during the playoffs and close out games better. FOr some reason, I feel like they were better at closing out games the past two seasons and won more of these close games.
by Sambossanova on Apr 1, 2007 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
One other thing
Dog Sh*t Calls
by vlad001 on Mar 31, 2007 11:34 PM CDT reply actions
So, i need to say a few things...
I am a very optimistic person and I really think they can pull it off and get enough wins to take the 2nd spot, if not then they will do fine in the Playoffs as 5th. If not, I really won't argue with any, if any, moves are made at season's end. Including players and/or Coaching staff. - I'm going to sleep.
I think (it is is arguable) I'm now rational
That was a tough loss. A few thoughts
1- No doubt Varegeo was out-of-bounds when he called the time-out with three seconds left in the game.
2- TT is for real. He played smart, stayed in the game and gave us an inside presence. Very impressive!
3- I like Goostafer's comment that we still can get the 2nd spot and if not so-be-it.
4- Gordon's decision-making at the end of the game does bother me.
5- I hoping the Knick pick gives us a boost next year because we still lack something to get us to win games like this.
#1 was Sasha something or other
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Bethlehem "Plaschke" Shoals
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
Cavs contenders
by Qtip15 on Apr 1, 2007 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
It's the East
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No not really
by Qtip15 on Apr 1, 2007 1:41 PM CDT reply actions
With the exception of the bottom
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah who needs someone to create anyway
Best of luck to the kids winning a series against Detroit, Miami the Cavs relying on jump shooting and playing hard. That's not the formula to win in the playoffs.
by Qtip15 on Apr 1, 2007 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
meaningless cliche
Ben Gordon does create his own shot off the dribble, he just isn't very big, and doesn't get Lebron/Wade charity from the refs. Maybe he will in the playoffs.
by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Close call
by vlad001 on Apr 1, 2007 3:13 PM CDT reply actions
Ugly, but the Bulls win.
I have to say this. Even on the radio, Tyrus SOUNDS exciting. He had a very mediocre game overall, but he contributed a very nice fourth quarter. He had a steal, a couple of dunks, a couple of nice blocks, and, most encouraging from my perspective, a few astute assists on nice passes. I wish I could have seen his block of Smith or his three point play. Neil Funk made them sound epic.
It's probably asking too much for the Celtics to
Looks like they pulled it out, if barely.
So, back within 1/2 game of the 2nd seed.
Caron Butler might be out for the playoffs
If he is, I sure hope we get Washington in the 1st round.
We'd play Washington
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/standings;_ylt=AvaY6GuOJPkEfhKxkbpZj6a8vLYF
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
See, we gained back
Optimism, people!
Why the hell is LeBron James taking games off
There is no doubt he is talented, but I hate that p*ssy.
In any case, I'm glad the Celtics won.
Give him a fucking break.
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
"Global Hero" is more like it
by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI
by stanchar @ Blog a Bull on Apr 1, 2007 10:36 PM CDT reply actions

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