Garnett, Gasol & AD

by Incognito on Feb 24, 2007 10:23 AM CST

I am sure that Paxson has not engaged in any behind the scenes negotiating but maybe he just has a feeling that the Bulls will be in an excellent position to trade for Garnett after this season.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/basketball/16772577.htm

In the meantime, I wonder if there is any chance of getting AD back for the playoffs.

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but

what do you give up? It will cost too much.

by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 24, 2007 10:35 AM CST reply actions

We'd have to send them Hinrich

and his $11m in any deal.

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 10:53 AM CST reply actions

Why trade for a guy

who can leave after next season?

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 11:11 AM CST reply actions

Bulls can work out an extension

as part of a KG trade. Just tear up the option years and sign him for an additional 4-5 after this season (or whatever).

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 24, 2007 12:34 PM CST up reply actions

why give something up for a guy who can be signed as a free agent? Obviously there's cap issues (like the Bulls may have to pay Garnett in leftover mid-90's Subway promo horn helmets), but every contender Garnett is supposed to be thrilled to go to in the future will/does have the same problem.

by Paxson Jackson @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 12:41 PM CST up reply actions

hahaHA

by JoJoEnglish94bulls4ever on Feb 24, 2007 11:15 PM CST up reply actions

Well

Im not getting too much into this discussion mainly because this trade stuff has be burned out, but I'll say this. Given that Garnett has stayed in "Sotta" this long while at the same time being unhappy just because he is loyal to his team. I think if he does go elsewhere, he would stay and not leave the team he goes to hung out to dry.

San Diego does in fact mean a Whale's Vagina.

by Goostafer on Feb 24, 2007 12:49 PM CST up reply actions

Sounds crazy

but I rather hae Gasol than garnett espescially if we have to give up less.

by Sambossanova on Feb 24, 2007 11:37 AM CST reply actions

Getting either

doesn't seem to be the least bit likely now.

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 12:12 PM CST up reply actions

Actually

getting Gasol would be easy if Hinrich and his $11m were involved this off season.

I don't see that happening unless there's another good PG acquired somehow though.

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 12:16 PM CST up reply actions

memphis has lowry right?

by milesgmsu on Feb 24, 2007 12:21 PM CST up reply actions

Yep.

Shouldn't you be at ESPN College Gameday?

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 12:25 PM CST up reply actions

why not KG?

Really? Gasol? I just posted this in another thread, but I was very uninspired by the prospect of Gasol and dubious that inserting him into the lineup would have transformed the Balls into a serious contender. If the Bulls are going to seriously attempt a title run before Big Ben's skills really start to erode, why f**k around with some slow, awkward Euro who's coming off a major injury? KG, on the other hand, is one of the best power forwards ever.

Colossus, what makes you say it's unlikely that the Bulls would be able to accquire Garnett? Because he'll opt and be a free agent? Even if that happens I'd think the Bulls should and would throw everything and the kitchen sink at him. Granted, it's no guarantee but I think it's certainly possible.

by jr on Feb 24, 2007 12:26 PM CST up reply actions

Only a little thing called

"salary."

KG's salary in 2007 is $22m. Let's see, the Bulls have: Hinrich $11m, Gordon $4.88m, Ty $3.5m, Du $3.25m, Deng $3.32m as the only players over $2m not counting Wallace (no trade clause) and Noc (he doesn't have a salary right now and would have to be a sign-and-trade deal).

Not having Brown and his $8m (and even Lard Ass' $2.7m) makes doing a trade for someone that makes $22m pretty fucking difficult. The least amount the Bulls can send to Minnesota (this is off the top of my head and going by the 125% +$100,000 and assuming that draft picks don't add cash value to a deal) is about $17.6m (again, that's off the top my of head).

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 12:35 PM CST up reply actions

Here you go....

Chicago gets:

Gasol ($13.71m)
Lowry (1.10)
Cardinal (5.85)
---------------
=$19.65m

Memphis gets:

Hinrich ($11.0m)
Ty (3.5)
2008 first-round pick (0)
200X second-round pick in next draft where the Bulls have more than one second-round pick (0)
---------------
=$14.5m (assuming draft picks have no cash value in a trade)

$14.5m X 1.25 = $18.125M + $100k = $18.225m (number done off the top of my head and may be slightly off)

So we'd need to send them another player to balance out the salary (or maybe just cash since it's something Memphis has been losing a lot of lately....along with games).

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by Colossus @ Blog a Bull on Feb 24, 2007 3:06 PM CST reply actions

ESPN picked up on this too

ESPN picked up on this story also, providing a little more context:

The Minnesota Timberwolves' lack of trade activity over the past few years hasn't gone unnoticed by All-Star forward Kevin Garnett.

"We made no moves. Typical," Garnett told the Minneapolis Star Tribune after Friday's shootaround.

"Thank God for opt-outs," he told the newspaper, adding that he was "not happy" another trade deadline had come and gone without a significant change to the team.

by paxson43 on Feb 24, 2007 5:09 PM CST reply actions

I think getting him wouldn't be so bad...

Minnesota appears to have less leverage in a deal...because of the opt-out clause.

I think you do it- even if you include Hinrich or Gordon. Then work out an extension...he's from Chicago and has shown he's loyal. If the Bulls were to make a move to get him, I'd like to believe he'd re-up with them.

by Lt.Dan on Feb 24, 2007 10:52 PM CST reply actions