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Open Game Thread #26: Bulls at San Antonio Spurs

I doubt we'll see any big-time coaching philosophy changes from 'interim-interim' head coach Pete Myers tonight.

In fact, it makes more sense to me to do nothing than sitting Ben Gordon, or going further, starting a lineup of Hinrich/Deng/Griffin/Smith/Wallace. Yipes. (in fairness, the rest of that article has good ideas)

But what will I be looking for tonight? Just hoping that Tyrus and Noah get plenty of burn, pretty much.  And to a lesser extent, Sefolosha and Gray. As far as the major concerns, such as the continued crapiness of Hinrich, Gordon, and Wallace(speaking of, Hanley refutes the 'Skiles quit on us' quote from Wallace), and random dissapearances of Deng for that matter, maybe the weight has been lifted off their shoulders and they can perform. I don't think that's what will be the actual reason for an in-season turnaround, but if they believe that's the reason, that's good enough.

Meanwhile, here's some background on likely future 'interim' coach, Jim Boylan. Knowing absolutely nothing about his coaching style, he seems as good of a hire as any, and far better than some of the suggestions around here, since he's at least paid his dues as an assistant in the professional ranks. And even if this chance is just to be a Paxson puppet, that can serve him in the future.

Manu is out for the Spurs. Which is great news not just for the Bulls chances, but limiting the comments suggesting why the Spurs can sit Manu but the Bulls can't sit Gordon.

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stupid WGN
I really wanted to hear Tom Dore weep on the air, but we're probably getting Wayne.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Dec 26, 2007 6:22 PM CST reply actions  

The game is
not on Super Station WGN so it's NBALP for me tonight. Probably will get the Spurs announcers.
:(

I'm not looking for anything different tonight. Hopefully they prove me wrong.

Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Dec 26, 2007 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

What time is the game
Chicago time that is, on bulls.com it says 7:30 but someone told me its 9:30 for chicago....anyone know?
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Dec 26, 2007 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

it's 7:30
the Spurs are also in the Central time zone.

by KT on Dec 26, 2007 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoo!
Thank you oh so much, i would have missed the game if i had listened to my cousin...better get ready for the game...Thanx again.
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Dec 26, 2007 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

yo just testin
Santa brought me a laptop - to the live chat i go!

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Sam Smith looks like an eccentric
old mad scientist.

Wash your hair, man.

It's interesting that Smith continually contends that Skiles was fired, in part, because he candidly told Paxson that the team didn't have the talent to be a serious title contender.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 7:30 PM CST reply actions  

BG on Bowen
and the spurs are running plays for Bowen.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

I like Meyers' notion of
running on the Spurs.

The team looks to be pushing the pace thus far.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

What a surprise...
Ben Gordon picks up two fouls in six minutes of play.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

Ghost of Skiles....
BG 2 fouls in 6...Kirk with 2 in 7...
even the same starting lineup as Skiles....

sigh...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

unfortunately
Duhon first guard off of the bench.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

And Griffin second!
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

unfortunately?
he's playing a lot better than Gordon or any other guard on the bench!

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Du playing pretty well thus far.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Grifinn
for Kirk with 2 fouls ...Ugh...
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, uh, AG needs to go ahead and sit down.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

why are the bulls
running the offense through Griffin and Wallace?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

i just threw up in my mouth ...
when i saw the bulls playing 3 on 5 ... griffin and wallace can't even hit rim they're that bad

by Orange Juice on Dec 26, 2007 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously
you would have thought tonight would be the thomas-noah-sefolosha special....

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 8:01 PM CST reply actions  

Meh.
I am going to the game Friday and I was hoping to see something worth watching after this shake up.  I do not want to see Griffin and if Thomas doesn't even get a whiff of action I'll be pissed.

by cranscape on Dec 26, 2007 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Looks
like Smith is our most consistent player,especially at the begining of the games.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:02 PM CST reply actions  

F - in HICK spurts commentators...
them AND their "Timmy" Duncan
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

Ummm...I disagree
and the spurts audio is distorted which makes it even more annoying
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

2 words
Tom Dork
im trying hard to become the next kirk hinrich, therefore im doing nothing more than being the next chris duhon.

by piccolomair on Dec 26, 2007 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to. I want to.
But, tragically, I just can't give that one to you.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Noah short stretch against Duncan
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:10 PM CST reply actions  

Deng better remember to blockout
the shooter this time.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 8:11 PM CST reply actions  

Bulls played good defense that
quarter. Wallace, for all of his offensive woes, played Duncan well.

Gordon still can't his head out of his ass and avoid needless early fouls.

Lu looked good, as did Smith.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:11 PM CST reply actions  

yo we need to fire Pete Myers
too much (any) A-Drain.

My god, he comes in and on 3 straight posessions he uses up twelve seconds of clock each time. Luckily one of those resulted in a Duh bail-out 3-pointer.

And Noc had his fire&passion drives blocked twice already.

ugh ugh ugh.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

this "interim" situation will be uglier
if whoever gets the nod doesn't even TRY new line ups and just goes with what they're familiar with.

If I were Myers I would have started something completely different....course, that could just be Pax pulling Pete's strings...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

thats what i'm saying!
tonight should have been a total new look for the Bulls... a la Billy Martin putting all the players in a hat in determine the starting lineup for the Yankees

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

TT on Bonner.
Somebody here had that substitution right.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

And they need to get griffin the F outta there!
Someone please tell me again WHY he's on the team...?
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:16 PM CST reply actions  

uh, vet leadership
teaches the tricks like 'blatantly push a guy in the back when going for a rebound when you're in the penalty'

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Myers
Tyrus and Thabo nowhere to be found, but Griffin and Duhon playing a bunch.

I wonder if Myers is just giving someone the finger.

by Sports2 on Dec 26, 2007 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

Duhon is playing much better then Kirk so far
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

This lineup will end the game.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

TT must do a better job fighting through screens
and not losing a three point shooter.

He let Bonner elude him and he made similar mistakes repeatedly against Posey a few nights back.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

A scary thought:
What if Pax told Myers to play Griffin more?  Remember, he's the one who gave Griffin a 3-year guaranteed contract for some reason.  Maybe Pax believes in that "veteran leadership" crap.

by Big D on Dec 26, 2007 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

It was in the local paper today
that AD might be in for more minutes, so maybe it was leaked.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

it is crap
and he may actually believe it, which is scary.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually scares me less
than force-feeding Deng into a spot he shouldn't be in.

by Sports2 on Dec 26, 2007 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

And the shooting woes continue....
I thought not having to watch Skiles' BS would make me feel at least a LITTLE better about watching this horrible team....

...but it isn't...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

we really need to fire Pete Myers
the Noc/Gray frontcourt went as well as expected.

Especially the o-fer version of Noc.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

fire red next
"wasting" aaron gray is the last thing I want to hear.
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Dec 26, 2007 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Bulls down big in the 2nd, it ain't the coach
it is the players...Hinbrick, Gordon, Deng, etc...

by GoldenThreePeat on Dec 26, 2007 8:25 PM CST reply actions  

Skiles
probably laughing his ass out watching this game and counting 6 milllion $.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

I'd be laughing with him
except it was HIM that destroyed the heads and hearts of these guys....

So AMF to him.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Unbelievable
At least on Saturday, they waited until the second half to give up.

by Big D on Dec 26, 2007 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

All three of the core players
were on the court for the last two or three minutes prior to that timeout.

And they are the ones that got blown off the court.

Hinrich got abused by Parker. Gordon was racing around on defense getting juked by shot fakes.

The Core is being further embarrassed as I type.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

I'm actually happy
that Pete Myers is letting Hinrich, Wallace, Gordon and Griffin prove that Skiles or no Skiles, they have no business being on the court right now.

by MarketMaker on Dec 26, 2007 8:29 PM CST reply actions  

Kirk Hinrich makes more money than Tony Parker
Example #578 of why the Spurs are the best-run organization in pro sports.

by Big D on Dec 26, 2007 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Tony Parker
has to be the best finishing point guard since...Isiah Thomas? Definitely one of the quickest pg of all time.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 26, 2007 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Parker is dominating this game.
He is embarrassing our guards.

(Yes, I realize Parker is the reigning NBA Finals MVP, but the vast gulf between his play and our guards thus far is breathtaking.)

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

spurs a whole different class ...
lol calling timeout, up 16, because gordon got into the lane for two layups. normally any normal coach could care less BECAUSE THEY ARE UP 16!!! But not Pop ... what a difference in standards.

by Orange Juice on Dec 26, 2007 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

Pop
I dunno if anyone's ever noticed, but Pop generally makes Skiles look like a pussycat.

by Sports2 on Dec 26, 2007 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

What really sucks
is us out-of-market fans have to listen to enemy commentators talking about how "the Bulls were picked to be one of the elite teams in the east" BS, every single F-IN time...

...as the Bulls are getting blown out...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

i completely agree
the worst are the Toronto commentators... they just straight HATE on the Bulls

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel sorry for you guys
I have a Dish network and at least don't listen
those "enemy" comments.It must be horrible,especially when Bulls are about to be blown out again.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure any announcer
would sound terrible when trying to verbally compose the nuances of the Adrian Griffith fadeaway.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 26, 2007 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

The last defensive set was a microcosm of the
game.

Parker blows by Hinrich like Hinrich is a statue, then kicks it out to Bowen. Gordon scrambles out to contest the shot. Bowen fakes and steps around Gordon, moves inside, the rises up to shoot easily over Gordon.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:38 PM CST reply actions  

last offensive set was a microcosm
they had a chance to cut the lead to ten, but there were 3 blown layups/tips.

At least Gordon helped erase some of the damage done by the bench in this game.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He is having a good offensive game thus far.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't wanna think
what the score would be if Ginobili were playing also.Down by 12?We should be glad that it's not 24.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Noc with a half for the ages
0-6, 2rebs, 1ast, 2fouls, 1to, 2blks (well, that's surprising), and a -16 +/- in 10 minutes.

Matt Bonner with 1 shot, 3 points, and 3 rebounds. He rules so much :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

He has been
atrocious over the last week or so.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I may cry. :-(
Come Bulls at least look like you are trying.
Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Dec 26, 2007 8:45 PM CST reply actions  

I suppose.
Please get this season turned around and play some great basketball.

by sue369 on Dec 26, 2007 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

how about Duhon
4-4, 2-2 10 pts, but -8 +/-...
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

His +/- was likely affected by
having to play alongside AG and an ineffectual Noce.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he carried them
AG?  wtf?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

in his defense
he's been out there with Noc and Griffin.

I only like quoting the raw +/- when it makes Nocioni look bad.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Feel mildly sick
Adrain, Duhon, Smith...no Tyrus, little Noah.  If we're going to play the same terrible lineups, there was no point in firing Skiles.  And if we're going to lose, let's not lose with "veterans".

by Freethefro on Dec 26, 2007 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

No matter who the coach is, there
is one universal in the kingdom of the Bull, one constant: If Tyrus makes a single mistake, he sits in the bench for the rest of the game.

Of all the things that people complained about, Skiles' refusal to play and develop Tyrus was a legitimate complaint. Well, it needs to change. Soon.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:49 PM CST reply actions  

Hey, we're still in the game.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

Calm down guys
Pete is only "interim-interim" coach.
And we play against best team in the league.
Should we start fire Griffin campaign?
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:52 PM CST reply actions  

Wallace is really playing
some good D tonight.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

Yep
so far he didn't let do Duncan much
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Gordon can dunk????
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

Skiles had imposed
a strict no-dunking policy for Hinrich and Gordon.  We can only hope that Myers has lifted the ban for Kirk too.

by MarketMaker on Dec 26, 2007 8:58 PM CST reply actions  

BG to the left hand?
Did Skiles prohibit that too?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i dont think weve seen
hinrich close enough to the basket to dunk in weeks....

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true
Hinrich is playing way too hesitant. He rarely drives the lane and passes wide open jumpshots.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 26, 2007 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Hinrich
looks completly lost.At least 2 Bens play well.
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

he looks gassed
from chasing parker around.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

go get it! go get it!
go get it team ... why aren't you guys go getting it? let's go, go get it, let's go get it!!!

by Orange Juice on Dec 26, 2007 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

Not watching...
saw the box score... who if anyone is guarding tony parker??

by Zac23 on Dec 26, 2007 9:07 PM CST reply actions  

Is it me
or are the refs picking on BG?

Wouldn't be anything new....just thought I would ask...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

do you really think
they pick on him?  but I didn't like that call either.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

im never one to complain about calls...
but i really think the bulls have been getting the short end of the stick on a LOT of calls this year...  just an observation...

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Smith & Wallace still in the game
after 10 min gone in the 3rd...it seems to me like Skiles is still the coach

by GoldenThreePeat on Dec 26, 2007 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

Can Gordon practice finishing in the
paint?

He is having a decent game, though.

Wallace really playing awesome defense...so far.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:11 PM CST reply actions  

That was basically an entire quarter
with the Core on the floor.

No odd rotations.

Still, the Spurs extended their lead.

Not that it surprises anyone that the Bulls aren't as good as San Antonio.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

what happened on that tip
Lu was pissed about something.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

He was pushed
"RUN,TYRUS,RUN!!!"-Formerly Chicago Bulls coach S.Skiles

by Azabullsfan on Dec 26, 2007 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Noah, Thomas, Gray
4, 4, 2 minutes through 3 quarters.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 9:20 PM CST reply actions  

Pete Myers = Stacey King?
Is it safe to assume yet that the only difference between Myers and King is that one inexplicably got a coaching gig and the other inexplicably got an announcing gig?  Is this another case of Reinsdorf's admiration for a former player as a player overruling his lack of contribution to the organization?  I won't bother to go into detail here, but there are obvious cases of this with the White Sox.  Maybe Paxson even falls into the same category?

by snley on Dec 26, 2007 9:20 PM CST reply actions  

yikes
makes a lot of sense but for everyone's sake I hope it's not the case

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

you win the alec award
congrats!
Officially a hater on Ballhype!

by hscs on Dec 26, 2007 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

this is why I shouldn't post during games!
or to quote Mark Twain "Better to remain quiet and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

by snley on Dec 26, 2007 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

So much for seeing Tyrus and Noah.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:20 PM CST reply actions  

this broadcast sucks
anyone else having problems with the audio?  if i had to watch my favorite team thru this broadcast on a regular basis i would be pissed!

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

Spurs
don't even bother to put Duncan back in.

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 26, 2007 9:22 PM CST reply actions  

Jesus Christ, Noce.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

No Tyrus yet?
Skiles is still the boss

by GoldenThreePeat on Dec 26, 2007 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

He had the gall to go one on one for one play.
He tried to drive the ball, got blocked, and was swiftly banished.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Nocioni flat sucketh
gets a wide open pass and throws a wide open brick.

niiiiiice....noooooc

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:25 PM CST reply actions  

I seriously wonder how much more I can take
watching these games seems like such a waste of time anymore...
the games all end up with the same results via the same MO...
nothing new....nothing good.

blah...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

Kill yourself Pete Myers
you obviously don't know what it is that wasn't working for Scott Skiles.

by MarketMaker on Dec 26, 2007 9:29 PM CST reply actions  

hmm
not sure. Didn't include calling someone gay, or ripping on Hinrich (or calling Hinrich gay)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

NOW they bring in Thabo?
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:29 PM CST reply actions  

Noc leave udoka on one end
bricks a contested 3 on the other.

he's been out there soooooooo long.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

The only remaining question
is whether we will lose by 10, 15, or 20.

One game, I'd like to be competitive in the 4th.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

methinks
the days of opponents seeing Chicago on the schedule & pretty much guaranteeing a W are back

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

I can't speak chinese or japanese but I am sure
these announcers from china or somewhere are straight laughing at are defense especially when kirk got mixxed by tony parker and foul him.  Straight clowning us.  Nope its confirmed nobody from the bulls organization reads this blog.

by Ibleedbullsred on Dec 26, 2007 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF?
Thabo in?
Why?

And still no TT or Noah?

wow.

Just....wow.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

What is Meyers doing?
Wallace and Joe Smith back in??

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

right so wallace
can do things like pass with :03 on the shot clock

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

good question
he loses track of the shot clock more than any other player in the NBA

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

it's rarely his fault
he shouldn't be passed the ball in those situations.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

very true
but as the closest thing to an inside presence on the team... he needs to be ready for those circumstances.... or at least that would be nice if he were ready....

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Part of it is his teammates' fault
Why would you ever pass the ball to Ben Wallace with less than 10 seconds on the shot clock?  The Bulls do this all the time.

by Big D on Dec 26, 2007 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

HAHAHA
Loved seeing Hinbrick lay waste to Parker there!

When in doubt...just CLOBBER the chump...
LOL!

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:35 PM CST reply actions  

Usually, when you fire a disliked coach,
you see an immediate improvement because the team is hopeful and invigorated.

The Bulls are losing by 20.

I guess it is only game one and we are playing at SA, but this is another sad effort.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

did you really think
the bulls come out and beat the defending champs in their house?
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't...
but I DID at least hope they would contend.
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

No, but call me crazy...
I thought they might stay within 20 f"in points.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

But seriously folks...
Life's been good.

But the hats come off and the heads bow....
the lowly days reminding us all of the Floyd's Bulls years are glaring us right in the face.

And it isn't going to change anytime soon.

What a shit winter for Chicago sports...

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

Pete doesn't get this 'interim' thing.
he's playing his starters in a blowout just to make it look better in the final boxscore.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

Ben Wallace Midrange Game
Nice "chipshot" ... Pop is so weird. I can just picture him during the timeout: "why the hell was Wallace open ... poor rotation, poor closeout, poor defense. what is wrong with you guys. we're only up 20. the game is not over. man up, step up the D. come on now, championship teams don't let Ben Wallace shoot wide open jumpers ..."

by Orange Juice on Dec 26, 2007 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

he may be on them all game
but the minutes distribution he uses is evidence that he gets the big picture, too.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

pete myers ...
... probably has no idea what minutes distribution means.

by Orange Juice on Dec 26, 2007 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

hopefully Pax's interview with Boylan
was sitting down and watching this shit coaching job by Myers. And saying "Hey Jim, don't do this"

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

and a little of
"See Pop?  That's what you need to do"

by HerAirness on Dec 26, 2007 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice pass wall-ASS
dumbshit
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

the rotations
tonight were still awful, but that wouldn't have made a whole lot of difference with the way guys played.  This team needs some new players a serious shake up is needed.

by fundamentallysound on Dec 26, 2007 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

horsehockey
give me new rotations before trades. This game should have an asterisk the bench was used so awfully.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I would
have liked to have seen more TT out there.  The last time we played the Spurs and blew them off the court, we did it with TT running the floor and using his athleticism to beat an elderly Spurs squad.  Too bad no one with a clipboard seems to see in TT what is painfully obvious to so many of the fans.

by fundamentallysound on Dec 26, 2007 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Bulls report card.
Why wait till the end of the game?

Kirk Hinrich D-

Terrible defense on Tony Parker. Tony is a future Hall of famer, but his scoring burst put the Bulls in a hole where they never recovered from. Offensively a non-factor.

Ben Gordon C

Showed signs of offensive life, but wasn't able to sustain his momentum.

Luol Deng C-

Missed a lot of close shots and disappeared when they needed him most.

Ben Wallace C

Played pretty good defense on Duncan.

Joe Smith C

Showed some offensive life but ran out of gas.

Nocioni D-

Chucked till he could chuck no more, unfortunately ice cold.

Duhon C

Played alright, can't fault him for being forced to play with AG.

Noah/Thomas/Thabo ND

So the Bulls played their starters pretty much the entire game so they can remain competitive yet still got blown out? Isn't this why Skiles got fired?

by RogersPark Kris on Dec 26, 2007 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

I agree with your grades.
But the second quarter lineup did kill us.
"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Luol really disappeared in the 2nd half.
Gordon had a decent game.

Hinrich was below average on both ends.

I thought Wallace played great interior D.

Noce was a nightmare.

Noah was a flickering mirage. In the game for a minute, then gone.

Tyrus rode the pine...again.

"We goin' to the 'ship!" - LSU IS IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

by 1958ChiTown on Dec 26, 2007 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

Why fire Skiles?
this was the same type of game even if he was still the coach?

by GoldenThreePeat on Dec 26, 2007 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

And a-drain comes back in
to slow the final minutes to a crawl...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

And NOW we see TT and Noah together...
...to end this mess....

F.

Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

if I'm Tyrus
and sat all game to be put in garbage time like this, I'd take a shot every time down the court, and then when the final clock expired punt the ball in the stands.

Maybe take my jersey off too for good measure.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

I feel
really badly for Tyrus.  He has been so underutilized and mismanaged in his time here.  I loved him as a prospect coming out of LSU and to see what's become of his career has been more than disappointing.

by fundamentallysound on Dec 26, 2007 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell ya
This is getting really annoying. TT is my fav player and I never get to see him. I am thinking about asking my Dad for a different B-day present then a trip up to Chicago if I'm only gonna see A-drain all game long.

by SRQman on Dec 26, 2007 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Instead of getting rid of Skiles
I wish they could have gotten rid of Hinbrick & the fro

by GoldenThreePeat on Dec 26, 2007 9:49 PM CST reply actions  

Rather ironic that those are the two players
who have their contracts all nice 'n comfy...
Is it spring training yet?

by Bluelou on Dec 26, 2007 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Though that would be hilarious,
and i share the sentiment, the coaching staff would actually then have a reason to never play TT again.  And that's the last thing i want to give them.

by MarketMaker on Dec 26, 2007 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

can't take it anymore
They fired skiles for this?  I mean, what a bunch of over-rated scrubs we have on this team. I'm just so sick of wallace doing nothing but take a guaranteed 3-4 awful shots a game, deng content to shoot 19 footers, gordon and hinrich forcing early shots for no reason, and TT sulking for most of the game before providing basically nothing.  But now I have to watch Adrian fucking GRIFFIN?  are you fucking kidding me?? in the first quarter?? ADRIAN GRIFFIN!  WHAT THE FUCK!  

by dcarioca on Dec 26, 2007 9:55 PM CST reply actions  

Tonight
the Bulls legitimately raised my blood-pressure with frustration.  I expected some kind of effort, some feel-good-the-wicked-witch-is-dead energy.  But no.  Shitty subsitutions, Big Ben apathy, Hinrich's habitual suckage.  I don't think I want to watch this team if Myers is the coach.  This is worse than the Floyd years - back then I expected terrible basketball.  This, I didn't expect.

by Freethefro on Dec 26, 2007 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

Wow
The Blackhawks are the team to watch at the UC.  And the Bulls suck!  Crazy!

by MarketMaker on Dec 26, 2007 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

wallace the warrior
5 boards and a basket. But you can't count the intangibles. Airballs, tipouts to the other team, missed dunks, general comic relief, eating the payroll, bitchin' about his role, and making these chinese announcers crack up every time he touches the ball aren't part of the boxscore. i'm punching my all star ballot

by Beef Wennington on Dec 26, 2007 10:03 PM CST reply actions  

TT, Noah, Tyson, Curry, etc
Young Bigs haven't develop with the Bulls for over 5 years now.  

I believe this duty has been Boylan's responsible.  And the organization's half hearted attempt to get P.J Brown, and Ben Wallace, Joe Smith to help teach the young guys to take over their minutes in the rotation.  

If Paxson doesn't give Boylan his pink slip today, then Paxson should give himelf "his" at the end of the season.

by exult463 on Dec 26, 2007 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not certain of this, but I think
Ron Adams has been the "big man's" coach.

by alec on Dec 26, 2007 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah
I'm rather confused why he doesn't seem to be in line.

by Sports2 on Dec 26, 2007 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Ron Adams
wasn't a Skiles guy.  I don't believe you are correct, I believe it's Boylan.  I remember TV interviews where Red and others stating Boylan working with the Bigs.  And actually heard Boylan's own words in a Half-time interview stating this responsibility.  

But, if we still go alone with your premise, it furthermore validates a half hearted approach to delegating development of Big Men otherside of Skiles trusted coach circle.

On second thought.. how can either Adams or Boylan teach NBA Bigs the NBA game?

Is Wallace or Smith really going to teach someone to take over their position?

by exult463 on Dec 26, 2007 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing's going to be different
the first night.  You don't fire the coach and then put in the guys who weren't listening/doing it the right way.  What message does that send?  Go ahead and screw off and you'll get your minutes anyway.  Tyrus isn't playing because he thinks he's dominique.  Not because somebody is out to mess with him.  Has anybody else noticed that Tyrus seems to only run hard on a break when he is running the break?  On defense, a lot times he loses his guy because he seems to be looking to block every shot.  

Obviously, when Tyrus, or Noah, or Thabo plays the right way, they are effective and even game changers.  But until they decide to play that way the majority of the time, more minutes isn't going to translate into wins.

Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 10:45 PM CST reply actions  

screw play the right way
they're young, whether they figure it out or not won't happen on the bench.

And I disagree that if they don't play right it won't translate into wins. Tyrus and Noah are effective when they play, give them more rope to prove they can sustain it, not less.

I want a team that's good enough to where they can 'screw off' and win, to be honest.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

and...
what did Tyrus do wrong today in his handful of minutes? Make a drive to the basket and get blocked? god forbid someone takes it to the rim instead of chucking a jumpshot. Nocioni gets his shot blocked a couple times a game, but when he does it it's passion, when Tyrus does it it's screwing off.

The 'running the court' thing is overblown. No player runs all the time. I supposed if he knows he'll only be in a few posessions he should. And even if he slacks on a majority of the opportunities, the good outweigh the bad. I don't see more minutes as a reward for the bad things, but for the good things. So the message to the team can be 'play good and you'll play'. What a concept.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 26, 2007 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Getting back to the point
Those guys aren't going to be playing in the first game.  Watch their minutes go up over the next few games, unless of course, they are completely without hope.
Nocioni-Khryapa in '08

by bullshooter on Dec 26, 2007 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Popovich OWNED Myers tonight ...
I mean absolutely killed him.

The Spurs JV team (when both Parker and Duncan weren't on the floor) took the lead at the beginning of the 2nd quarter and never let us get closer. Duncan had an off night, so Pop pulled him with no hesitation.

Players have off nights. Noc had an off night ... so pull him before he does more damage. Hinrich had that low-confidence level stretch again ... so pull him and play Duhon, who was playing well and should've gotten a chance to defend Parker. What was Griffin doing in a close game early ... there has to be a better combination possible when Hinrich/Gordon have to sit. And does the coaching staff know that Joe Smith loses his legs if he stays in too long?

Of course hindsight is 20/20, but aren't some of those things pretty obvious to anyone following the Bulls? It's not Pete's fault that he was thrown into this, but you have to wonder if there is anyone out there who can coach our players.

by Orange Juice on Dec 26, 2007 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

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