Bulls trade Basden
[From the Diaries. Well this is pretty random. I knew following the scrubs sent down to the D-League all season would pay off some day. Although...I don't remember Andriuskevicius doing much down there (7.0 ppg and 4.2 rpg in 18.9 mpg is what the bulls.com article says, I'll try and locate a full stat page). At least it was small-for-big (and youth). -Matt
UPDATE: Here are his 2006 Summer League stats. 16.5mpg, 6ppg, 3.3rpg. Also seems to foul a lot...he'll fit right in. ]
Bulls.com is reporting that Eddie Basden was traded to Cleveland for Lithuanian center Martynas Andriuskevicius. Ok, that's the last time I type that guy's full name out. Can we get a nickname please?
Here's what Pax says about him:
"Martynas is a young big that we view as a player who needs development with his strength and skill, but has the potential to make it in this league," said Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations John Paxson. "We are always looking for size and skill, and feel he is a young player that we are willing to take a strong look at." I remember back during the Euro Draft craze, Chad Ford menioned this guy as a potential Top 5 pick.Eddie, we hardly knew ye...
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guess this means the Luke Schenscher era in Chicago is over. the Basden era was over the day he missed the early bus to a shootaround. that was the beginning of the end.
so that's one more name for johhny red kerr to struggle over. always good for a laugh. (it's Mar-teen-es An-droo-SKAV-ih-chis, JK)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 18, 2006 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nickname?
by Colossus on Aug 18, 2006 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No fair
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 18, 2006 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schencher won't be a Bull
That Other Guy That Sucks And Is Always On The Bench Or Down In The D-League
by Colossus on Aug 18, 2006 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Luke
by bigballa10 on Aug 18, 2006 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't remind me
(actually...since I have a man-crush on Skiles, the choice is easy)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 18, 2006 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awww,
by sue369 on Aug 18, 2006 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Summer league stats
http://www.vegassummerleague.com/players_info.cfm?player=481&season=3&team=18
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 18, 2006 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marty
Before PaxJax points out how horribly small the sample size is at 4 Las Vegas Summer League games, let me say, I'm not being serious.
by tofferr on Aug 18, 2006 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 18, 2006 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another plus
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 18, 2006 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm leery
by jamestkirk on Aug 18, 2006 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst part
2005-06 6 G 1 PF!
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 18, 2006 1:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he sucks that bad
by bullshooter on Aug 18, 2006 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have one spot on the roster open
by milesgmsu on Aug 19, 2006 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
So Marty at least has this going for him: No expectations at all. If only Darko had had the comfort of sitting behind Ben Wallace and a couple of other talented guys in the rotation, yet at the same time, had no lofty expectations from the fans or the organization.
by Todd Lerner on Aug 18, 2006 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chad Ford
by Mike Aparicio on Aug 18, 2006 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
by jamestkirk on Aug 18, 2006 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in defense of a piston
- Darko looked good in Orlando. Granted everyone looked good in orlando during that stretch, but playing with turgolu, nelson, and howard, darko looked real real good. WIth the additon of pure shooting redick (who they already got in turgulu), along witht he continued development of howard, i exepct orlando to be a sleeper
- Dumars made the right call in drafting dargo; they won a title that year. You cannot say for sure that with any oter player in that draft they would have won a title
- let's be glad dumars drafted darko...anyone else and we may not have kirk
by milesgmsu on Aug 19, 2006 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Dumars drafting Darko wasn't the problem. Larry Brown coaching him was. He's notorious for not liking rookies, especially high profile ones, and he set Darko back a ways in the eyes of everyone on that team.
Darko looked good, especially defensively, as soon as he moved on to Orlando, and he was a big part of that late season surge the Magic had.
Dumars is acquitted of his actions, and Larry Brown is a rich old shmuck who's just set in his ways.
by james@lifeinthecell on Aug 19, 2006 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right call?
nevertheless, hindsight is 20-20, but it seems that you were looking through the prism of hindsight when you declared drafting Darko the "right call" -- no f-ing way
by Perch on Aug 19, 2006 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is the right call
by milesgmsu on Aug 19, 2006 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
had Detroit drafted Bosh
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 19, 2006 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
backward logic
Did the drafting of Darko CAUSE the Pistons to win the championship? Who knows, but you can't prove it.
Was Darko drafted AND did the Pistons win the title (correlation)? Yes, but so what...Elden Campbell was on that team too. Are you willing to say they might not have won it without Campbell?
by jamestkirk on Aug 19, 2006 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's safe
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 19, 2006 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understand what i'm saying
- The pistons could not have had a better short term result from the 03 draft
- we dont know how good darko is yet
- dumars, to this point, has only screwed up in the entire indirect darko situation his handling of the ben wallace contract and dumping darko. we dont know if drafting darko was a mistake yet. for all we know, any rookie and larry brown woudl have been incompatible and instead we would be ahving this arguement abtout that huge bust "chris bosh", josh howard, or wade
by milesgmsu on Aug 19, 2006 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you're saying
As to your third point, the one about Dumars only really screwing up the books and whether or not "drafting darko was a mistake," well, we know one thing for sure: drafting Darko WAS a mistake for Detroit. He might become a decent player, but not for the Pistons. They got absolutely nothing out of him. Nothing. They would have done almost as well not having the draft pick in the first place. They essentially traded the #2 pick in a loaded draft for Orlando's future pick. I don't see how that's a good deal.
by jamestkirk on Aug 19, 2006 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think we're in agreement now
furthermore, the jury is still out on darko...
so ends the debate
by milesgmsu on Aug 19, 2006 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume you meant Dumars
by jamestkirk on Aug 19, 2006 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 19, 2006 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pig Miller
by jamestkirk on Aug 19, 2006 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Brown screwed with Darko's head
Milesgmsu, you said "Dumars made the right call in drafting dargo; they won a title that year. You cannot say for sure that with any oter player in that draft they would have won a title." Following that logic drafting Matt Bonner would have been "the right call" too, because as long as whoever they drafted stayed super-glued to the bench nothing would get screwed up. I don't know if that's how you want to run a team.
Kidd2323, how is "Dumars is acquitted of his actions...," he traded Darko and Arroyo for Kelvin Cato (huh?) and a first rounder? Sure, the pick might turn into something nice, eventually, but it might turn out to be a big stinking pile of doo doo, especially if milesgmsu is right and the Magic are better next year. It looks like Dumars gave up on Darko to me.
Dumars could have drafted Melo, Bosh, D-Wade, Kaman or Hinrich. I stand by what I said -- dumars got snookered.
All right, I'm done being a jerk.
Hey, it sounds like the two of you have watched a fair amount of Darko in Magic uniform, I have a question: Is his defense really that good? I know he gets a lot of blocks, but swatting stuff from the weak side and banging down low are two different things. I always thought he was more of a finesse player. Comments? Thoughts?
by jamestkirk on Aug 19, 2006 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darko
Playing next to the second coming of the Mailman, Dwight Howard, makes it easy to be effective.
by james@lifeinthecell on Aug 19, 2006 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the scouting report
by jamestkirk on Aug 19, 2006 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't know
hmm, maybe few fouls vs Shaq? someone for Wallace and Brown to push around in practice?
by NY Chicago Fan on Aug 18, 2006 2:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember
- The tape itself appeared to have been rewound and taped over repeatedly and looked like convenience store surveillance footage.
- Andriuskevicius was at least six inches taller than anyone else on the floor.
- Andriuskevicius weighed, at most, 190 pounds.
by Hoopinion on Aug 18, 2006 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good deal
by Big D on Aug 18, 2006 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good deal???
;)
I was joking. Maybe the dreamers on Blog-a-Bull can somehow work this into a Garnett trade scenario?
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 18, 2006 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can, and will
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 18, 2006 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Khryapa-Andriuskevicius
by GWKD on Aug 18, 2006 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure that Wallace
by Colossus on Aug 18, 2006 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Party? Hells yeah!
A lot of alcohol
Not to be outdone, Lithuanians drink more than 12 liters of alcohol a year, the equivalent of 1.85 beers/day for everyone over 15!
That's even more.
For scale, Americans are just over 8 liters per year. I think it's safe to say that Bulls parties will be crazy. Hopefully somebody can keep an eye on Tyrus.
by cubbybear on Aug 18, 2006 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's crap
by Colossus on Aug 18, 2006 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No shit
So which guy'll be the first to schill for Dmitri Vodka?
by james@lifeinthecell on Aug 19, 2006 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I'll spend the whopping $3.75 on the first thing of Dmitri.
by Colossus on Aug 19, 2006 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nickname nameplay attempts end badly
Martynas AndDunkVicious,
Marty And Dunk With Us,
Party And-Drink-With-Us
I also failed when combining it with his end-of-the-bench mate Khryapa, for some combo, (like Starsky & Hutch or Turner and Hooch, or Chico and the Man).
Krap-man AndDrinkwithus,
Krap-man Anddunkwithus
Krappy and Marty the Party,
But those don't really work either, especially because they don't really rhyme with phonetic name (Mar-teen-es An-droo-SKAV-ih-chis).
And I looked at those pictures connected to the links above, and he is sporting a bowl cut with some acne effects, just like some kid from a downstate small high school. Doesn't inspire anything. My attempts in this vein were similarly lame: the long lithuanian, the leaping lithuanian, 7 feet 2 inches of pure fury, the blonde bull, shorty, blondy, richie rich on growth hormone, hayseed, smoove Andy, etc.
It will probably be best to have something that doesn't involve his name at all, like Nocioni=Chapu. For that, I'd have to see him play more.
Anyway, if you can come up with a better nickname, I salute you. For now, "Marty" seems adequate.
by GWKD on Aug 21, 2006 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully for everyone,
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 21, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good luck
by milesgmsu on Aug 22, 2006 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I thought
by Paxson Jackson on Aug 22, 2006 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pax jax
that was a little cold...i have a wicked tongue but i feel bad about it...sorry
by milesgmsu on Aug 27, 2006 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting anything for basden is a good deal
by Scotter on Aug 19, 2006 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nickname
by milesgmsu on Aug 19, 2006 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i like kid vicious
by milesgmsu on Aug 22, 2006 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although
by preverbal on Aug 22, 2006 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
Also, just calling the kid "dirty" is funny in itself, and matches well with his end-of-the-bench partner Krappy. Moreover, it may be appropriate because Dirty may have some acne problems too. Thus, garbage time (after the Bulls have a 40 point lead on the Blazers) is Krappy & Dirty time. the sixth graders in the crowd will love that.
by GWKD on Aug 22, 2006 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll start a poll
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 22, 2006 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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