Sign and Trade for Wilcox?

this diary wasn't up while i was adding my diary.

Of course the Bulls would rather have Wilcox, but not at that money for that long.  P.J. only has one year left on his contract, that's the main reason the Bulls are trading for him.  Anyway, there's no way the Bulls would commit that much money to a power forward two weeks after taking Tyrus Thomas number 2 overall.

Those are the frontcourt starters after this year.  Hopefully Noc is still around to play some minutes at the 4.  I don't think we really need to worry about the Bulls' backup big men for 2007-2008 yet.

would be great.

That would be enough for a rotation at this point... C: Big Ben, Collison, Collins PF: PJ Brown, Collison, Allen, Noce, Thomas SF: Deng, Noce, Thomas SG: Gordon, Sefolosha PG: Hinrich, Duhon That's 12 men.

I think we need a third PG, hopefully one with some playoff experience more than we need another forward. With Thomas and Wallace in the fold (and potentially PJ Brown), we don't really need to spend a bunch of money on Wilcox. Thomas should develop nicely behind Brown and Wallace this year and be ready to start next season. Plus we'll likely have a top 10 pick with the Knicks swap, and most of the top 10 prospects are 6-8 and taller.

where did collisons name come up?

If all we need from the PF spot is a scorer and a decent rebounder and if we HAVE to send Chandler packing to get a good guy, then just package Chandler up with a future draft pick (obviously not next years) for Shareef and Corliss Williamson's $6.5 mil expiring contract.

I think the Collison rumors are starting cause if the Sonics give Wilcox the money somewhere bewtten what he wants (68/6) and what they want (45/5) from what a Seattle paper was saying last week which would be roughly 55/5, Collision is also due for a contract extension which could be in the 7-9 mil range and I dont think they want to tie up that much $$$ on one position. I doubt both of them are on the Sonics roster in the fall. I hope one of them is on the Bulls.

that wilcox replace tyrus or even compete with him, necessarily.  I'm just looking at next summer's team and saying that, in the best case scenario, we have one player over 6'9''.  I'd say two, but Luke is probably not a part of the "best" case scenario, regardless of height.  Besides, there's plenty of room up front for three players to rotate, especially since one of those players is entering his mid-30's.  We all saw what running Ben at heavy minutes for a full season will do to him and it's not good.  
As for the clear-cap space argument, it's not that great.  we're going to trade players that are relatively identical statiscally so that we can lose one of the players next year?  at that time, we'll use the extra 8 million to resign four players that are starting caliber?  How does that approach making sense?  8 million would barely make much of a dent for two players that are starting caliber.  Plus, the point by Rodmaniac is more valid than many here want to admit: we will have no cap flexibility BY next summer regardless of what we do next point.  We will be re-signing (hopefully) two players and re-upping (likely) two more.  You don't have cap room after that.  Finally, after all of this, we have to keep in mind that Reinsdorf himself personally lobbied for this trade as has been reported.  If he wanted to spend that money he did so: A) because he wanted to contend; and B) knowing full well that he's going to be shelling for luxury tax after next summer.
This summer is/was our summer to set our roster for probably the next 4-5 years.  From now on, it's all MLE or rebuilding.  So we better damn well make sure that we have a complete team.  And I'm not sorry to say that Ben Wallace, Tyrus Thomas, Malik Allen and Sweets does not a front court make.  Please don't bring up PJ Brown's name, he's filler that will produce little/no improvement over Tyson(look at the stats). ...plus, he'll only do so for a season.

Wouldn't mind getting another Jayhawk in Collison.  I have always liked his game, but its a good point that it might push back the development of Tyrus.  

?Jarron Collins? might as well get one of the twins boys from Big Daddy.  They will come cheaper and be just as effective.  

Next summer we will get an effective big man through the draft on top of Tyrus.  Josh McRoberts in 07'.

It appears like P.J. will be in a Bulls uniform in the next couple of days, replacing Chandler. I agree with most of you in the fact that while his numbers are the same as Tyson's, but I also think he brings more strength to the BACKUP spot for Ben Wallace (and for the record, I don't think ben's numbers dropped the last 3 years because of age as much as the arrival of Rasheed Wallace).
Now if he does move to a BU, then what happens at the PF spot? This is where i feel wilcox will be the finishing piece of the puzzle. This man averaged 14 and 9 with guys like R. Allen and R. Lewis, who aren't known for their sharing of the ball. And in the games where Lewis sat out, he erupted for almost 25 and 20.
I would invest in him, because he will play a big role in Pax's vision of athleticism and scoring. not to mention if he get's in foul trouble tyrus is waiting in the wings. So now you have 2 solid frontcourt with Wilcox/Wallace, and bench in PJ/Tyrus. And yes PJ will be gone next season, but when we win a championship THIS year, no one will complain about him being here...and especially not when New York fails to make the playoffs and we swap picks for BIG Ben/PJ's replacement!

The only way the Sonics will sign and trade Wilcox is if his salary demands are too high (something like Nene money, $60 million for six years).  The Bulls at that point probably could get him but there's no way they should pay Wilcox that much money.  He doesn't make the Bulls a championship team right now and that contract would completely lock the Bulls into their current roster.  And I'll say this one more time, he plays the same position as the player the Bulls just drafted number two overall.  There's no way.