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IndeBENdence Day

I think it's headlines like that which caused me to fail out of the Scott Carefoot school of blog headline writing.

On to the Bulls' new 'man in the middle'...

The money now is apparently closer to $15m per instead of the Ford-reported (re-ford-ed?) $13m. Which takes away a lot of the speculation that Wallace wanted a bigger role with Detroit and he wasn't getting along with Saunders. Basically it was about the money.

But there is something to be said about how the Bulls and Wallace are a good fit. According to Sam Smith today, Wallace "told Bulls coach Scott Skiles he desired a tougher brand of coaching. Skiles didn't seem to have a problem with that." It's been long debated that Paxson and Skiles' philosophy to acquiring only driven, hard working players would ultimately keep them from effectively using a star player. But if there ever was a star player to mesh with the Bulls way of basketball, it's Wallace.

At 32 and with diminishing effectiveness the past several seasons, the Bulls did overpay for Wallace. But to land him, they had to. And spending big free-agent money on him is a better option than trading away existing talent to do the same, and the best part about this signing is that they didn't give Detroit any compensation. If it was a sign/trade centering around Tyson Chandler, the money given to Wallace would have made it a poor long-term deal.

However, now instead of looking to find a frontcourt mate to complement Chandler, they instead signed the rich man's Chandler, who they can now trade to find that elusive post player who can score and prevent the Bulls offense from completely relying on the jump shot. And that wasn't going to be found in the free agent market the way things were starting to shake out.

The Bulls are now in an even better position than they were before in terms of tradeable assets. Of all the 'deal for a star' proposals that were floated in the past season, the ones involving Chandler had me the most reluctant (well, aside from Hinrich), due to the lack of replacement. Now with Wallace on the team Chandler is a $10m bench player that they don't necessarily need to keep.

 I am not advocating dealing him just to pare away salary obligations. And I don't think acquiring PJ Brown (and his expiring contract) would be anything more than a glorified salary dump. If you're going to sign Ben Wallace, and trade away part of the young core like Tyson, why not get an upgrade? That doesn't have to mean a player who is a star frontcourt talent, but at least one that can put the ball in the basket. Going further, why not package Chandler and Tyrus Thomas for a dynamic power foward, or Chandler and Ben Gordon for a top-flight 2-guard? If you're going to spend $15m and 4 years on Ben Wallace why not give him a comparable player to run with? I think this is a far more important priority than freeing up money to sign Nocioni(really...is that so big of a concern to everyone?)

The problem with such a bold move is that it may take until the trade deadline for the big names to be available in such a deal. So, while Tyson may be coming off of his worst season and likely at his lowest value, Paxson could be thinking it's better to get the roster situated now before the season than risking Chandler having an even more reduced role (I have said all along that he'll have a bounce-back season) and permanently killing his trade value.

I'll wait and see if the rumored Chandler-to-Hornets deal is official before doing the full roster assessment. But in the meantime it's easy to see how signing Wallace as it's own move makes the Bulls better. Perhaps the biggest problem the Bulls had last season was free-throw disparity, and while Ben isn't going to help them shoot more free throws, his athleticism (and perhaps more importantly: respect from the officials) will keep the Bulls from fouling as often on defense. He can single cover nearly ever player in the league, and changes this roster from young and inexperienced to a tough veteran club. I said after the draft that they had too many kids, so it's nice to get the man in free agency.

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Hornets trade done
Very interesting.
If you go to Wikipedia, under JR Smith, it has him officially in Chicago. PJ Brown and JR for Tyson, in a trade that supposedly happened July 3.

by Evam on Jul 4, 2006 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wiki
Not exactly a credible source.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 4, 2006 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that too.
When I read it in the Tribune or on TV then I will beleive it.

by sue369 on Jul 4, 2006 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too good to be true?
"The Daily Southtown reported last week that the Bulls were among several teams that inquired about Garnett prior to the NBA draft. Timberwolves operations chief Kevin McHale made it known that Garnett was not available.

The Bulls believe they can revive the talks if they sweeten their offer of center Tyson Chandler and forward Luol Deng with recent first-round draft pick Tyrus Thomas, whom the Timberwolves are known to covet.

A nucleus of Garnett, Wallace and Andres Nocioni on the front line coupled with Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich in the backcourt would immediately turn the Bulls into a legitimate championship contender."

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/041sd1.htm

by Todd Lerner on Jul 4, 2006 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brown deal
I read somewhere that the deal cant go through until the 12th.

by LD9 on Jul 4, 2006 7:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, but
Deals can be unofficially reported, hyped, denounced, applauded, etc. before the 12th. Like the Ben Wallace trade and all the others deals we've been reading about.
It's just that the Hornets and Bulls trade hasn't reached the  stage yet where it's considered firm. Maybe they're just waiting till Wednesday. Or there's a snag. I'd be surprised if it didn't happen, however.

by Evam on Jul 4, 2006 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's bc
the Hornets want us to take a third player.  Mache or something like that maybe.

by Colossus on Jul 4, 2006 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know
I was justing putting it out there that it cant be offical yet, like some trades are already I think the Raptors have made 3 trades this off-season.

by LD9 on Jul 4, 2006 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comcast had some bits of an interview with Big Ben
on their SportsNite program, and listening to him talk I thought it was quite obvious that he did it for the money.

He was getting tongue-tied trying not to dis his old team, and most of the reasons/excuses weren't really true, saying things like (and I'm paraphasing here) that he wanted to go to a team with a chance to win (he was already playing on a team with more than an excellent chance to win in Detroit).

Like everyone else, I like the signing (as long as the Ty1 deal goes thru). I just hope BB's real motive ($$$) for leaving Detroit won't ruin his competitive edge.  

I love Grant Park in June!! Been there six times!!!

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 4, 2006 11:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Ben interview
I am sure Ben thinks the world of his former teammates so I am not surprised he wouldnt say anything bad about them. The Bulls over the course of the next 3 years had a better chance of winning then Detroit. The chances of Billups re-upping there after this season are shaky and Flip Saunders cant coach in May. Wallace has always been a prideful player and I am sure this season he'll be out to prove that he is worth the $$$ he signed for.

by LD9 on Jul 4, 2006 11:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Ben and Skiles
From Sam Smith's column:

"He was engaging and even told Bulls coach Scott Skiles he desired a tougher brand of coaching."

Damn, how many NBA players desire a "tougher brand of coaching?"  Wallace is a rare breed. Supposedly part of his problem with Flip Saunders was that he thought Flip put too much emphasis on offense.  Somehow I doubt Ben will have to worry about that here with Skiles.

by Big D on Jul 5, 2006 2:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so what your saying is
Ben thought "Flip was flippant" about defense?

That's right folks, I'll be here all week!

:-)

I love Grant Park in June!! Been there six times!!!

by james@lifeinthecell on Jul 5, 2006 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

big deal
w/o a doubt, this as big a deal as the bulls have had when it comes to signing a player from the outside.  i'm pretty excited about what this means.
however, i cant' help but wonder what might have been if we had spent our money on two bigs w/ reasonable skill sets.  w/o a doubt, ben's better than both those guys, but 30 mill over 5 years for starting caliber big men is a sweet deal.

by CookDing on Jul 5, 2006 7:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder
I wonder if Przybilla's and Mohammed's deals sound so reasonable because the main free agent player (the Bulls) took their money off the table.  If we hadn't signed Ben, those two would have been playing off one another trying to get the Bulls to up their ante.  Once Ben signed, those to tentatively agreed to contracts almost immediately.

by jamestkirk on Jul 5, 2006 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown and Smith are on their way
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2510218

Looks like its final.  I'm excited about this deal.  I was against trading Chandler until we got Ben.

by Todd Lerner on Jul 5, 2006 4:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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