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All tied up

One of these days I'll stop doubting the Bulls.

I must say though that I was relieved more than exhilarated after that 4th quarter. Switching to the 3-guard lineup with 7 minutes to go sent me into a cold sweat, as we've seen in games 1 and 2 how Dwyane Wade was able to score late against that lineup. This time the shots didn't fall in, and Duhon (the 'extra guard')did connect on a really nice floater over Shaq in the final minutes.

I've picked on Duhon relentlessly this series, but it's not as much because of his deficiencies as it is Deng's strengths. The Heat went small by putting (the basketball player formerly known as) Derek Anderson in with Wade and Gary Payton. So it seemed like a reactionary move by Skiles to counter with Duhon instead of forcing the Heat to try and handle Deng. In Skiles' defense, Deng was invisible the entire afternoon, shooting 2-6 for 4 points and 1 rebound in 20 minutes. I'd rather have seen Deng stay in the game, but they managed to hold onto the lead without him.

Enough of  my nitpicking (wait, one more: the sight of more Pike and Pargo time to end the half), since aside from my own nervousness in the final quarter it was hard not to love what the Bulls did Sunday. To the bullets!

  • The biggest shot of the night had to be Hinrich's absolute bomb of a 3-pointer with a little over a minute to go that put the Bulls up 5. Hinrich and Gordon outclassed the Heat backcourt scoring 44 points on 50% shooting. They've been marvelous in this series, and all the talk of them being a bad fit together due to their small stature has been turned into an advantage against the slow, defensively lax Heat. They need to be on at all times to win, and at least in Chicago it's happened.
     
  • It was the plan all along to use this speed, but as I noted after game 2, the Bulls were going too fast for their own good and allowing the Heat to get out on the break after forcing turnovers. What changed in games 3 and 4? The Bulls won the turnover battle both games and were able to keep the pressure on the Heat interior. What was once a forced attempt resulting in a block was now a controlled drive ending in a trip to the line. In an unbelievably un-Bulls-like performance, the Bulls enjoyed a FTA edge of 31 to 5.
     
  •  Taking care of the ball also allowed the defense to round back to form, as they only gave up 88.5 points per game at home this series as opposed to 113 on the road. I kept waiting for Wade to take over game 4, but it never happened as he shot 8 of 23 for the night. Tremendous job by Kirk Hinrich, it's amazing to see a game like today's where he runs the offense, contains Wade, and scores some points in his free time.
     
  •  No defense works without the inside help though, and while Chandler had a poor statistical night he was the team's best defender against Shaq, and was altering shots in the paint all night. Mike Sweetney was going after rebounds like the ball was covered in syrup, including 3 offensive boards over the hampered Alonzo Mourning. I still wonder where his once-deft shooting touch went, but when Sweetney is making an effort on offense it at least shows that he's in the game, which is more than can be said much of this season. Him, Chandler, and Allen have been a great 3-man rotation against Shaq, and fouling so infrequently that Skiles hasn't been forced to go to Harrington or Schenscher.
     
  • John Hollinger said it before the season in his annual Pro Basketball Forecast: Andres Nocioni is better at the 4. He is so tough that despite his size disadvantage he can defend and rebound there, and offensively he is a matchup nightmare. Still got overzealous at points in the game but its that aggression when driving the lane that opposing 4s can't stop, especially the Heat's Walker and Haslem. He has become more than a bit role player on a gritty team. Nocioni has improved his offensive game to the point where teams will have to start gameplanning for him.
     
  • Antoine Walker did lead the Heat in scoring today, but he shot 12 threes. With Posey back that may mean less minutes from Walker, which from a Bulls perspective is unfortunate, as I love to see that man chuck away at the expense of a more efficient offense.

I won't preach a true momentum shift, although having only 1 day off between now and game 5 may allow some carry-over (if hurting them in terms of Chandler's recovery). Much has already been made of the Heat bickering at eachother in the second quarter, but I am having trouble being sold on that as anything significant. Forget momentum for now, what any team in a 7 game series has to ask themselves is if they're truly better than their opponent. At the start of this series you'd have to look at these two teams and give the  Heat the advantage, but they are not the team they are on paper. Mourning is back on the court but nowhere near ready. Jason Williams may be slowing down after a hot start (2 points today), and reminding everyone that he's been fighting injuries all season. Wade's played poorly enough where you almost have to question whether that leg injury in game 2 was more than a cramp. Haslem and Posey have each missed games due to suspension, and although Shaq's been healthy he's been in foul trouble.

But by no means am I making grand predictions, as we've seen the Bulls have not as good on the road. Having Chandler healthy is a big concern, but also every player between Hinrich, Gordon, Nocioni, and Deng have to be on for the Bulls to win. At the onset of these playoffs it's been noted how the Bulls create matchup problems for Miami, and in these two home games they've exploited it beautifully, being the younger, faster, more aggressive team. They may not be better than Miami overall, but when the Bulls are at their best and Miami's not, the Bulls play like the better team. If that continues, that's enough to take this series.

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a little rain on the parade...
I was at the game today and it was a blast.  However, I was really disappointed at how the Bulls let Miami hang around and back into it.  After we'd build a little lead, instead of stepping on their necks we had numerous careless passes / unforced turnovers and we were too late to rotate on defense.  We're not going to be able to get away with this in Miami!  Still, I'm glad we could tie up the series for all the reasons you mentioned.  I was surprised that the Heat couldn't bring their game up another level considering they're an "elite" team.  They never really threw a punch even from the 1st.  Odd.

Nonetheless, we've got a decent shot!  

by CRG on Apr 30, 2006 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

gotta like those
chances.  i'd think if you'd asked anybody at the beginning of the season how they would have felt about being here, 2-2 against the heat, they would call it a success.  
finally, a game i could watch.  some of my own thoughts:
  • what kind of heat man-love does walton have going on?  all game he was hanging from their collective jockstrap.  i swear, a few times, i thought i caught him eye-humping shaq.  
  • the heat look TIRED!!!!!!  noticed it about half way through the second quarter.  a t.v. timeout or something and all the heat's big names were limping to the bench and you could tell they were toast.  
  • hinrich and nocioni are just unreal right now.  i'd go so far as to say noce has maybe been a top-20 player league-wide for the last two months.  it's been a revelation.  and, as for hinrich, wow.  by far and away, he is the steadiest player on the floor in this series; he could arguably be called the best player on the floor... ..so far (remember, i'm talking just this series and in terms of game impact).
  • ben gordon, did you actually MAKE a couple of passes?  of all the players that have turned the corner recently, ben has me giddy.  you can put him on the floor and he is managing to contribute w/o scoring.  i don't know about you guys, but that's a BIG deal to me.
  • i'm inclined to agree with Matt: Chandler has been playing very well, even if the stats don't bear it out.  I saw all out effort and some heady play from him yesterday.  I predict big things from Ty next season (having the benefit of a productive off-season).  This guy's finally beginning to wake up and become a ball-player.
  • charlie rosen, how does the bullnation's collective brownhole taste!?!?  skiles is dictating this series to riles.  even in the losses, the bulls have forced the issue and the heat have been on the defensive.  just a shame that skiles wasn't even included in COY talk this year.
regardless of what happens, i'm just thrilled with our team.  this never-say-die attitude is thrilling to watch.  it's awesome to see how it gets under the skin of "wily veterans" to quote Bill walton (nevermind that those veterans have a history of in-fighting, underperforming, are in serious decline, are injured and, to a man, have shown no skill whatsoever at fulfilling roles in playstyle as their coach has designed it).  If i never get cable/get to see a bulls game again, watching kirk drop that trey from four feet behind the line, with the game on the line, will be enough to feed off of.  
NOCIONI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by CookDing on May 1, 2006 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Look's like the old gang is all here
First of all, we've god the OLD Bulls Blog crew here.  I like it.

I was at the game yesterday and now sit here with a sore throat b/c of all the cheering.  The UC was rocking and I was (finally!) allowed to stand for extended stretches of time while my friend and I exchanged awkward high fives all night. :)   I agree with CRG about letting the Heat hang around instead of going for the knockout.  Also, some of my  worst fears  were coming true as Derrick Anderson, and especially Antoine Walker kept on bombing the open three pointers.  Don't forget your man Noc!

Chandler is playing well and there's  good news  in today's Sun Times as Tyson says he expects to play in Game 5.  Let's hope so.  

Walton's Man Love shouldn't be surprising.  He usually spends each broadcast cheering for the best center in each game.  He's from a time when centers, not guards, dominated the league.  I think he did give Tyson credit when he went down saying something along the lines of "I've never seen a player with such a poor stat line have such a positive impact on the game."  My problem with the TV is the extended timeouts.  I realize that this comes with nationally televised games, but these TV timeouts feel like the breaks between quarters and I think this only HELPS the ancient Heat from tiring out faster.  

This team is so much fun to watch.  We all see it.   Sadly, all this Payton/Wade drama has totally overshadowed what the Bulls are doing to the national media.  The TNT and ESPN crews rarely mention Hinrich's coming out party.  In fact, whenever they show the highlights, those guys are usually too hung up on the Heat to even announce Hinrich's BEAUTIFUL bomb.

The Bulls have all elevated their games in the playoffs.  I've always thought that's a great barometer of a player's drive and character.  Skiles is also using an opposing coach who has been to the Finals 8 times as a punching bag.  I'm hoping that someone wakes up Deng for Game 5 and the Bulls realize winning a Game 5 on the road is a HECK of a lot easier when compared to winning a Game 7 in Miami.  

NOO CEEE OOOO NIIII (CLAP)(CLAP)...(CLAP)(CLAP)(CLAP)

by Jobu on May 1, 2006 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I think
the Bulls are playing as a team right now. It seemed like during the regular season we would have one player per game who would have a blow out game but in the playoffs they have done it as a team. We are playing well and I hope that tomorrow night we come out of there winners. That will be huge for the game on Thurs. in Chicago. 9 - 0 against the Heat in post season play in Chicago.

I hope Tyson can play tomorrow night. We need him. I have been very happy with Sweetneys' play too. He has stepped up his game. For some reason this team has just jelled at the right time.

GO BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!

by sue369 on May 1, 2006 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

"Big Footwork"
Did anyone catch Gordon introducing Sweetney on TV?    That was pretty funny.

by Jobu on May 1, 2006 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

stepping up
one other nice surprise has been malik.  for a guy that has been nothing more than a space eater for much of the season, he really seems to have found and taken advantage of his role.  obviously, he's not what one would call an impact player, but i've appreciated his impact nonetheless.
NOCIONI!!!!!!

by CookDing on May 1, 2006 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

So great
These past 2 games have been terrific.  They do seem to have gelled at the right time and they do seem to have ALL stepped up their games (maybe except Deng).  Its been pretty amazing.  Kirk and Noc have just been fantastic.  Gordon has been great -- I never thought I'd seem him make an assist that pretty in his whole career.  Malik Allen has been nailing those jumpers like its his job.  Its to the point that when I see Allen shooting a jumper, I actually catch myself saying "its in" in my head before the shot -- who would've thought that could happen??  I agree on Chandler also -- crap numbers, important impact.  It would help if Deng could be more aggressive, but at least there's still room for improvement.

Any thoughts on what to expect on Tuesday?  I have to imagine Miami will come out ferociously with their backs up against the wall.  I wonder how the refs will call this one?  Is a FT disparity in our favor a one game anomaly?  I realize its not going to be 31-5, but is it conceivable that we really are just defending well without fouling, and we can maybe get a 25-20 FT advantage?  Sure would help.  I have to imagine Shaq and Wade are going to get a lot of home town calls, but I think it helps that the story line of these playoffs is Miami being dirty, old, slow and disrespectful -- does not endear the team to the refs.  Certainly a different story from last year against the Wiz when the whole story was about how the Bulls foul all the time and Noc is a dirty player, etc., which made us look like the bad guys.

by preverbal on May 1, 2006 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

RE: So Great
Tuesday is of course, the most important NBA game that these Bulls have ever been in.  And, of course, each subsequent game will be the same.  

You're right to expect a big push from the Heat to begin the game - I'm thinking the same thing.  Hopefully the Bulls can withstand the initial push, and keep the crowd out of it.  The Bulls were the 4th best road team in the East and Miami was the 4th best home team in the NBA.  As the say, Something's got to Give!

The Heat are going to get to the line in Game 5.  Hopefully, the Bulls' fouls won't all come at once and prevent any of the main rotation from seeing their normal minutes.  

by Jobu on May 1, 2006 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said, Matt.
Giving Miami a few free points at the ends of halves by using Pargo and Pike is really nerve-wrecking.  Duhon has had his moments this series, but what's with the silly turnovers?

I think there is something more to the Payton/Wade thing.  It might not have an effect on this series, but it'll mean something down the road (maybe it's as simple as Gary getting his pink slip).  

I also like Sweet's agressiveness, I just hope some go in.  The Bulls have to prepare for, and expect, the officiating to go back towards Miami.  It always happens, and they can't let ticky tack foul calls deter or distract them.  

Not sure what else now.  I am excited and can't wait for tomorrow night.  

by Moses Taylor on May 1, 2006 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Big Sweets
I totally haven't given Sweetney his well deserved props.  I'm glad you did.

by Jobu on May 1, 2006 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean Big Footwork
I wonder if that's a knock on his inability to draw offensive fouls, praise for low post moves he flashes in practice, or maybe something more obscure like Sweet Tooth being a ballroom dancer.
Dalibor and Dragan!
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by FAQ on May 1, 2006 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shaq
Game 4:
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060430&game=MIACHI

Game 1:
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060422&game=CHIMIA

We know the Heat will get all the fouls called in their favor for Game 5.  Look at the gameflow and see how whenever he plays an extended stretch the Heat come back and when he leaves the Heat tank.  

Yeah it's obvious that Shaq is the game changer but still it is interesting to see how much the team relies on him.

It is going to be ridiculously difficult to keep Shaq on the bench in Miami.  We will have to execute our game plan nearly-flawlessly!

by CRG on May 1, 2006 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess I'm missing something
Look at the gameflow and see how whenever he plays an extended stretch the Heat come back and when he leaves the Heat tank.

Shaq was -12 in Game 4 with the Heat losing by 6. In his two longest stretches he was -5 (1st quarter) and +4 (4th quarter).

In Game 1 he was +/- 0 with the Heat winning by 6. He had extended playing time in each of the four quarters, going +3, +2, -3, -2 consecutively.

by Hoopinion on May 1, 2006 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should be more precise
I was focusing more on the team +/- graph because Shaq has a huge impact by drawing the double team and shooing away drives on defense.  I am also combining my game observations with the gameflow by discounting Heat flurries at the ends of Q2 and Q3 when the Bulls were getting careless.  If you take out those "junk ball" stretches, I think you can see the trend going in Miami's favor when Shaq plays extended minutes.  Just looking at game 4, in Q2 and Q3 you can see on the whole how Miami suffers an overall downward trend.  The Bulls made their biggest runs of 18-2 and 12-0 in those stretches.  Shaq was brought in Q2 mid-bulls run to stop the bleeding, but they weren't effectively getting him the ball and the Bulls were already in rhythm.  Miami made a decent run with Shaq in mid Q4.

by CRG on May 1, 2006 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

We had huge leads
in the second and third quarters that were erased.  I was hungover in a hotel room, but i remember that the heat really chipped away at it with Shaq on the bench.  I don't think you can discount the Pargo/Pike minutes since those minutes are as valuable as any other, and apparently it's a part of Skile's plan for some reason.

I said before that a huge key was keeping Pargo superglued to the bench.  He's been on the floor way too much.  I think in Game 3 we noticed he shot 4 times in 3 minutes to close out the first half.

Dalibor and Dragan!
Like Pizza? Me too.

by FAQ on May 1, 2006 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pargo
I agree that Pargo is reckless and he does force too many shots.  However, the rest of the Bulls had too many unforced errors as well, which also led to the Heat runs in the 4th.

Skiles has to play Pargo because he can bring instant offense and I think to buy time to keep the starters fresh in later quarters.

I was discounting because this was under the context of observing Shaq's effectiveness through the gameflow, etc., so I think those late runs in 2Q and 3Q aren't indicative of the Heat playing better w/o Shaq in the lineup.

by CRG on May 1, 2006 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

What's with everyone believing this?
Maybe 1 out of every 10 games, Pargo is "instant offense."  Every other time he's instant brick, or instant turnover, or instant easy bucket for the other team.  When it comes down to it, Pargo flat out sucks.  And just cause he gets hot occasionally doesn't make him good.  

by Moses Taylor on May 2, 2006 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Miami Scene
Luckily or unluckily, I was in Miami this weekend.  I had to give up my 19th row tix for Game 3, but a fun time in South Beach was certainly a worthwhile tradeoff.

I watched Game 4 at a trendy beach bar.  They only had one TV with the game on - near the entrance.  For the first 40 minutes of gametime, the room contained only Bulls fans, but as the Heat got closer and the end of the game loomed, more Miami fans were showing up.

Emeka Okafor was there watching as well - being very relaxed and seemingly most interested in Ben's game.  I would assume he was neutral beyond that.

All these Heat fans kept talking tons of smack and for the most part we were outdoing them (obviously, we were probably all much bigger fans, anyway, given the fact that we could have been on the beach, but were watching in what amounted to a hallway - so our knowledge base was much higher).  There was even a guy who was supposed to be cooking or something that kept coming out to talk trash and check on the score.  Eventually, the little area was packed.  One dude kept saying, "The Bulls are just a two man team.  They only have those two guys!"  I have no idea which of the three best players he meant (Chapu, Kirk, Ben).  Then Duhon makes his floater over Shaq - the guy says "Like I said, it's just those three guys."  Quality self-deprication there.

Then Kirk hits his BOMB and the place just erupts.    All Bulls fans are jumping around, going crazy, high fiving, going totally nuts.  Everyone there knew it was game-over.  The chef comes back and hands over six Red Bulls to us - I suppose as some sort of congratulations.  It was better than any sports bar I've been to - it totally made my day (which, admittedly was already pretty fantastic being on the beach and all).

Sorry for the ramble, but I thought I'd share...

I feel like this series is going seven for sure.  But the Bulls can win a game 7 on the road.  Jason Williams has been the key so far.  Couldn't miss at home, couldn't hit in the UC.  What will he do tomorrow?

GO BULLS!!

Deng 4 MVP, 2008!

by corey williams corey benjamin on May 1, 2006 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

cool story
There must be a "Bulls nation" out there still.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 1, 2006 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

definitely very cool
beats my watching snippets of the game before heading to a wake.  ...although that might be more fitting symbollicaly.  
can't wait for tonight.  i really like our chances (even without chandler).  

by CookDing on May 2, 2006 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great story
Thanks for sharing.  An enjoyable read.  

My pre-series prediction was Bulls in 7 (made here http://www.blogabull.com/story/2006/4/21/0270/64358#commenttop).  Not that I'm Nostradamus or anything, but I did have Florida winning the tourney this year, so HOPEFULLY I'm on a roll.

by preverbal on May 1, 2006 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Florida
you would think Noah, Hortford et al would have learned something from the Folly of Matt Leinart...

by CRG on May 1, 2006 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah really
I'm sure his senior year was great and all, but, wouldn't an extra $10-$20 million in guaranteed money be kinda nice as well?  

by Jobu on May 1, 2006 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got a rich family
Noah doesn't need the money.  And he was been quoted as saying he doesn't like the NBA style of ball (ignorant kid!).

But if he wants to play for a team that's a true team, he should have declared and see who got the first pick.  He could have withdrawn.

Sam's right - he had a chance to come to a team that's on the verge of being elite and blew it.  For a competitive person, that should have maked a big difference.

by KT on May 2, 2006 6:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, but . . .
he could've gone to the Blazers too.  No guarantees.  I really can't blame him -- he's in a great situation at UF, he's gonna be a hero all year long, his team will be favorites to repeat next year, and he's only a soph.  As much as I'd love to see him on the Bulls (as I have said repeatedly on this site), I really can't fault his decision.  With any luck, our Knicks pick next year will be high enough to nab him and he'll be a more developed product.

I like the college game so much more when good players stick around for more than one year.

by preverbal on May 2, 2006 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

NCAA odds
The odds of the favorite winning, and on top of that repeating must be very slim.

by CRG on May 2, 2006 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

damage
next year is going to be tough for him.  he's a known commodity now which will have defenses keyed on him and tailored towards him.  plus, in the tourney, anything can happen.  
personally, i think it's not a great move.  great for him that he's sticking out another year, but let's not delude ourselves and pretend he's doing it for the education.  
who knows, maybe he'll luck out and a decent/good team will get a high pick (that's if next year doesn't lead to a decline in his stock).  i think the leinart tag applies well here.  he has a very good shot to land in chicago (a top-3 basketball market) this year but could easily be in portland, seattle, atlanta, charlotte/n.o., etc. next year.

by CookDing on May 2, 2006 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chandler playing
per trib article on front page
Dalibor and Dragan!
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by FAQ on May 2, 2006 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

fucking sweet
From chandler in the trib article re: the Heat going at him to see if he can handle it....
>"Both teams are going to bring it,'' Chandler said. "Let's go."

by CookDing on May 2, 2006 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

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