Swiss Mister a Hit!!!!!!!

by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2006 1:16 PM CST Comment 29 comments

John Hollinger uses the oft-used "Swiss Mister" for Thabo Sefalosha in his most recent article, in which he also critiques our rookies, Tyrus and Thabo, and calls them projects, meaning they're not dissapointments, but need time to develop.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&id=2690890&lpo s=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

The Projects

In a draft with several wait-'til-next-year types, these are the most prominent.

Tyrus Thomas, Bulls: Broke his nose opening night. Welcome to the NBA, kid.

Since then he's had trouble cracking the Bulls' rotation, mixing intriguing athleticism with several moments when his inexperience (just one year of college) has become apparent. A lack of offensive polish is the biggest shortcoming.

Thabo Sefolosha, Bulls: A future defensive ace, the Swiss Mister already has Chicago's brass beaming over his long-term future.

But for the immediate future, Sefolosha's offense pales in comparison to his defense, so he's not useful for more than spot duty on a team hoping to win the East.

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How about some

excerpts?

by Paxson Jackson on Dec 8, 2006 1:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

here ya go

The Projects

In a draft with several wait-'til-next-year types, these are the most prominent.

Tyrus Thomas, Bulls: Broke his nose opening night. Welcome to the NBA, kid.

Thabo Sefolosha, Bulls: A future defensive ace, the Swiss Mister already has Chicago's brass beaming over his long-term future.

But for the immediate future, Sefolosha's offense pales in comparison to his defense, so he's not useful for more than spot duty on a team hoping to win the East.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

by the way . .

Matt, don't know if you're cool with the cut and paste insider job. Delete if you want.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

as long as it's just an excerpt

just no full columns.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2006 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just put the excerpt in the main post btw

so you have your 300 character minimum :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2006 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanx Matt

Is that done using HTML Code?

Hinrich, Deng, Wallace for All-Star 2007!!!!!

by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2006 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

thank you

by Paxson Jackson on Dec 8, 2006 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no probs.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well

how bout giving Tyrus some love? Hollinger is bashing on him but he's been really productive the last couple of games. He's also kind of bashing on Thabo's offensive game which is pretty lame as well.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's called honesty, not bashing.

Neither of the Bulls' rookies has done enough this year to merit praise beyond "has a lot of potential." Thomas has looked lost for much of the season (to be expected from someone who's 20), and a couple of decent games doesn't change that. If he can keep it up for a month or two, then we can talk.

And it's 100% true that Sefolosha hasn't done much offensively. He's been hesitant to shoot the three, hasn't drawn any fouls, and his scoring and assist ratios aren't anything to write home about. Obviously he can improve in a lot of these areas, but that's what he's done so far.

by Eddy Currys Broken Heart on Dec 8, 2006 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sefolosha

handles the point very well though and always finds the open man. He does well offensively. Tyrus is starting to come along. No mention of that.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Does well at what?

I mean I've seen a few nice passes too but he's not getting many assists. And three games of decent play in blowouts doesn't really warrant mentioning for Thomas.

by Eddy Currys Broken Heart on Dec 8, 2006 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well

Thabo gets few turnovers, which is really good for a rookie. Tyrus contributed to those blowouts by becoming well aware of his skills and toning himself down.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

C'mon

Check your facts please. Thabo has a higher turnover rate than Hinrich, and is barely better than Gordon, both of whom create a lot more shots.

by Eddy Currys Broken Heart on Dec 8, 2006 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

huh?

I think you should look before you speak my friend.

Hinrich averages 2.33 turnovers in 32.9 minutes a game

Thabo averages 0.71 turnovers in 13.2 minutes a game.

You double Thabo's minutes and give him 26.4 minutes a game, he would be averaging 1.42 turnovers a game. You're bringing up some invalid points.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and by the way

I've never said Thabo is more productive than Hinrich OR Gordon. I just said he runs an offense pretty well for a rookie.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

1 more thing

Gordon averages 2.9 turnovers in 28.9 minutes a game. I don't know what the hell you're talking about man. But I still love ya.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Turnover rate

Turnover rate isn't TO/minute, but TO/UsedPossessions. (More accurately: Turnover Ratio = (Turnover x 100) divided by [(FGA + (FTA x 0.44) + Assists + Turnovers]. The x100 is just to make it a nice whole number)

You can find the stats here (lower rate is better):
http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2007/Bulls.htm

It's not exactly a well-known statistic so I think you both are being too hasty in the back-and-forth here :)

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2006 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

nah

I aint being hasty. I called him "my friend" and told him "I still love ya".

I'm just very hard on my opinions. A fault of mine.

I'll stop.

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Matt

I'm sure I'm being hasty. Just trying to keep it objective around here.

Option, I feel "love" is a little strong at this point.

by Eddy Currys Broken Heart on Dec 8, 2006 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no problem

Trust me I wasn't thinking the comments were out-of-line, just premature since you were technically both right, just using different definitions of how to properly count turnovers.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2006 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

word life

no hard feelings?

by Option27 on Dec 8, 2006 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Aldridge

gets very high marks. :-/

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2006 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I saw th e Trailblazers/Bucks play

and Aldridge really didn't impress much. Jarret Jack(sp?) did though.

I wonder if Larry Harris wishes he let Gadz go and kept ZaZA (which is what he should have done)............

by KT on Dec 8, 2006 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tyrus

I believe Tyrus has a very bright future. He reminds me of an Amare Stoudemire type player. His potential as a defensive monster alone validates the reason to keep him. Also, I think he will improve his game rapidly...look at how far he has advanced so far in this short season.

by NocChapu on Dec 8, 2006 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs