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Trading Season

Artest finally dealt, Celtics and Wolves make a multi-player deal (precursor to a Pierce trade?), and Toronto fires their GM just in time for the trade deadline.

Forget the current Bulls right now, lets have a day of speculation about what Paxson may have up his sleeve in the next month.

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Deadline comes and goes without much...
Would be nice to see KG, but that'll never happen.

Maybe Reggie Evans from Seattle. Probably won't happen either.

I don't expect Pax to do too much. I think he'll let the existing team play out the season being only 1.5 out of a playoff spot. That makes every regular season game like a playoff game. See who really can play with the pressure on. (Big one tonight too against Wiz.) Then he'll take that hard earned cap space and draft picks and be a MAJOR player in the upcoming off-season.

Kidd2323

by james@lifeinthecell on Jan 27, 2006 6:11 AM CST reply actions  

my problem with this blog
hi.

as you know, mr. bernhardt, im new here.

ive posted a few times.

however, there is a serious problem witih this blog being any fun.

you post too much.

everytime i think theres gonna be a decent "thread", you repost, forcing everybody to have to comment under that thread.

the result?

every post you start has at the most on average about 10 comments to it.

theres no way im gonna go to every single past post you made in the past 8 hours to read everything everybody has read.

i suggest once you post a post, just let is marinate for a bit. if you wanna say something, which you quite often do, just say it in the most recent post like the rest of us!

this is a formal request.

otherwise, the inconsistency is driving me insane, and i cant get to know the other posters, so, while at long last i think ive found a totally dope bulls blog, the rapid-fire format you use is pissing me off.

just a thought.

oh, and i hate the pistons more than i hate crime and pestilence.

if we defend, we can beat anybody...except detroit : (

by CUBBY on Jan 27, 2006 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

uh
this is not a messageboard. the more posts the better, i say, as long as they're interesting - which they usually are. i'm sure there are plenty of bulls messageboards out there with static threads for you to fill up.

by goldstone97 @ Blog a Bull on Jan 27, 2006 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

let me reiterate...
okay wait

maybe i was a bit rash.

all im saying is, its not even blogging when the thread is only 10 comments long!!

the game blogs are fine, anytime you wanna to and bitch about how the game against houston on the 20th you can.

but for everyday griping and ranting, you should let shit simmer, provide us for a better forum for heated discussion.

please dont take my comments for insolence.

i love the site.

i just think it could be much more interesting.

sincerely,

CUBBY

if we defend, we can beat anybody...except detroit : (

by CUBBY on Jan 27, 2006 8:23 AM CST reply actions  

and another thing...
halberstam is the shit.
if we defend, we can beat anybody...except detroit : (

by CUBBY on Jan 27, 2006 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

I've been doing this long enough
At one point any comments were a gift. I'm not worried about threads getting to 'only' 10.

Besides, nothing is keeping you from letting the discussion continue on the previous posts, plus there's always the diaries on your right if you want to start a potentially longer discussion.

From my vantage point it appears things stagnate after a full day, not 'fester'.

Thanks for the comments, but take my advice above if you want to try and cultivate longer commenting threads.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 27, 2006 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

Great trade for Boston. . .
Because now they have a white "superstar" (and I use that term very loosely) to distract the fans in Boston from how bad their team is.

by Big D on Jan 27, 2006 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

Hinrich trade
Could we get Paul Pierce and a second round draft pick for Hinrich and Tim Thomas?
Duhon and Pierce would make a terrific starting backcourt. Ben Gordon could go back to his 6th man role which he seems better suited for.

by Incognito on Jan 27, 2006 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Hinrich trade
The Bulls should never trade Hinrich. I just don't see it happening.

by sue369 on Jan 27, 2006 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Why not?
I mean, why don't you think they'll trade him?  

by Moses Taylor on Jan 27, 2006 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

They love him
I think Paxson and Skiles love him. He never complains in public about anything and works his ass off.

by sue369 on Jan 27, 2006 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i doubt it
doesn't sound likely to me. hinrich's a very, very solid pg but swapping him and an expiring contract for a superstar-type sounds a bit off. we'd surely have to give up the knicks pick as well, at the least.

by goldstone97 @ Blog a Bull on Jan 27, 2006 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Boston
That's why the Celtics drew better in the 1970's (with Cowens and Havlicek as the team's superstars) than they did in the 1960's with Russell.  To this day, Russell is still bitter as hell about the way he was treated in Boston.  

by Big D on Jan 27, 2006 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

In Pax we trust!
His patience as a GM has been a  blessing and he fortuntely doesn't have the desire, like some GMs, to make a move just to make a move.  This year's draft is shit.  I mean seriously, the two best players in college are WHITE!  This will be a repeat of the Fizer/Crawford draft so I'd rather Pax not do anything over the next 30 days.  

Next year there is a much better FA class and a much deeper draft.  I say just chill this year. Then, turn these two picks they have this year into 1 better one next year.  That way the Bulls will have 3 1st round picks and cap room in a much better market.  They will be able to facilitate almost any move and I know Pax will make the right one.

by Jobu on Jan 27, 2006 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

Pick situation
The Bulls can't get 3 picks next year, unless they somehow rolled over BOTH picks via trade. They do not have the knicks pick in 2007, just the right to switch picks with them.

I'm for trading the picks now if the opportunity comes, I dont see the point in waiting until the offseason. Besides you lose Tim Thomas' contract by then (but are under the cap so you could just absorb all the money coming in).

Everyone's saying the draft will have nothing, and there is something to be said about that since there will be no highschoolers (and no freshman since they jumped last year), but every year you hear the draft will be bad, and there's always at least some talent. um, except the fizer/crawford one.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 27, 2006 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

RE: Pick Situation
As usual, I posted without double-checking and as usual, Matt sets me straight.  I promise to be better.

by Jobu on Jan 28, 2006 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

setting you straight
haha, don't sweat it.

While we're on the subject I should remind everyone that the Bulls have no second round pick this year (going to Utah via Houston for that Bryce Drew trade from like 6 years ago).

They did get a couple 2nd rounders from the Knicks, but they are in 2007 and 2009. And in case you're curious, the Knicks second rounder in 2006 is going to Houston (Mo Taylor trade).

http://nbadraft.net/draftnotes.asp#2utah093003

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 28, 2006 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I am tired of
this youth movement.  I want to see a known quantity in here.  Some one who I can count on for 25 a game.  Be it KG or Pierce or whoever else.  I would like to see Hinrich and Deng stay.  I like Duhon, but if we can get a solid SG, who can play some D I would be OK with shipping him.

I also have no problems sending Chandler or Gordon away.

by Adam T on Jan 27, 2006 12:50 PM CST reply actions  

Chandler's practically untradeable
so I wouldn't worry about him. Both due to his poor start and his base-year contract status that I don't fully understand but know it makes one hard to trade.

I'm not sick of the youth movement yet. Remember the last time we were ready for a 'known quantity' the Bulls gave us Jalen Rose.

by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jan 27, 2006 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

More appropriately...
the last time we were ready for a "known quantity" it was JERRY KRAUSE who gave us Jalen.

But I'd have to agree with the WGC that getting younger isn't necessarily getting better.

There's the development stage we'd have to wait for because there isn't an instant impact player in the draft that I can forsee.

There's the rookie-not-getting-any-calls stage which is the last thing the Bulls need with their propensity for fouling already.

Although Chicago is a great basketball city, there is no guarantee that the rookie will like it here, whereas a free agent signing will be well aware of the city because he is making the choice to come here.

We need an impact player, like Detroit when they traded for Rasheed Wallace, to take us to the next level and a highly drafted rookie won't do for us next year, not unless he's the second coming of Shaq.

Kidd2323

by james@lifeinthecell on Jan 27, 2006 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

there is nothing we can do
we will wallow in mediocrity until our players progress.

by CRG on Jan 27, 2006 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

now you get it!
I have thought that the Bull's only way to make progress this year is internally.  These guys have to show us the elaps they can make or we're stuck at average for a while.  Luol, BG, (gulp) Tyson, I'm looking at you.
Dalibor and Dragan

by FAQ on Jan 27, 2006 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Look on the bright side. . .
At least none of our players has been thrown out of the league for using hardcore drugs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2308918

by Big D on Jan 27, 2006 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

I have this feeling.
I have this feeling that Sweetney will not be in a Bulls uniform after the trade deadline.

by Roche on Jan 27, 2006 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

intriguing
would make some sense why he's seeing no action...

i was speculating that he's either in Skiles' doghouse or just tired or both.  

Your point is definitely more interesting!  

by CRG on Jan 27, 2006 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe Nene?
he's restricted, so would make sense to trade Sweets for Nene, that way the Bulls can match any offers.  Maybe get him at a discount since he's coming off injury.  Would be good to pair him alongside Chandler if you want Size.

by CRG on Jan 28, 2006 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

RE: maybe Nene
Nene is a very interesting possibility.  I haven't seen much of him and can really only regurgitate what others have said about him in the media.  Size-wise though, CRG's right that he would compliment Tyson very well.  Tyson could then go back to being the help-defender that seems to suit him best and the Bulls would have a huge frontcourt.

Would he expect a similar contract like Tyson's though?  That's a lot of $$$ tied up when extensions for Hinrich/Deng/Gordon are around the corner.  It's always fun to think about though.  Now if I were Sam Smith, I would now suggest that the Bulls include Nocioni b/c then we could get 'Melo...

by Jobu on Jan 28, 2006 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

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